The US Open (Pebble Beach) and the PGA (Bethpage Black) are courses where he has won majors in the past, so his confidence will be sky high
I was thinking that he does well at Pebble, too. I also believe he as more in him. Look at how he improved his driving from the start of the year. His putting is still spotty. Not sure what the stats will show from this weekend, but he won't be that high in putting.
The guy is phenomenal at diagnosing his weaknesses and correcting them. He has been working on those since he figured out his back was ok and he could play. All last year he improved monthly, if not weekly. He was close in the Open and the PGA put by the time he got to East Lake he was about dialed in, but the driver was a weakness. He figured out his shaft was wrong for what he was doing and capable of and replaced it.
I would not be surprised to see his putting improve in the next few tournaments...
He will win a couple more events this year.
don't recall ever seeing such a stacked group in contention on a back 9 at the same time down the stretch. Koepka, DJ, Tiger, Ricky, Molinari, just insane. Can't help but be really happy for Tiger. Last year all signs pointed towards a major win in the near future, but to do it in this fashion to open the year was special. Pretty sure we can all go back to wondering how many majors he gets beyond Jack, don't think it's a question of if.
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The US Open (Pebble Beach) and the PGA (Bethpage Black) are courses where he has won majors in the past, so his confidence will be sky high
I was thinking that he does well at Pebble, too. I also believe he as more in him. Look at how he improved his driving from the start of the year. His putting is still spotty. Not sure what the stats will show from this weekend, but he won't be that high in putting.
The guy is phenomenal at diagnosing his weaknesses and correcting them. He has been working on those since he figured out his back was ok and he could play. All last year he improved monthly, if not weekly. He was close in the Open and the PGA put by the time he got to East Lake he was about dialed in, but the driver was a weakness. He figured out his shaft was wrong for what he was doing and capable of and replaced it.
I would not be surprised to see his putting improve in the next few tournaments...
He will win a couple more events this year.
The US Open is really hard to figure because you never know how the USGA will trick up the course. If it wasn't played at Pebble Beach I'd think there's no way Tiger is getting close to winning it, but it's at Pebble and he's far more experienced on that course than anyone else contending for majors except for maybe Phil. Bethpage Black is normally a US Open course but it's hosting the PGA so it won't be as hard to play. So you figure the winner there is going to post a very low score, as long as the weather is OK. The British Open course is probably advantage Rory because it's in Northern Ireland and he's probably played it a lot while most of the other golfers (especially the American players) might be seeing it for the first time
don't recall ever seeing such a stacked group in contention on a back 9 at the same time down the stretch. Koepka, DJ, Tiger, Ricky, Molinari, just insane. Can't help but be really happy for Tiger. Last year all signs pointed towards a major win in the near future, but to do it in this fashion to open the year was special. Pretty sure we can all go back to wondering how many majors he gets beyond Jack, don't think it's a question of if.
It's very much a question of if. It's probably no better than a 50/50 shot he gets to 17 majors, let alone 18+. These golfers he's going against are ridiculously good, better than a lot of the guys he beat in the past. Time is also against him at 43 years of age and who knows how long his back holds up. One more back injury and that could be it; he was considering retirement after the L5-fusion 2 years ago
don't recall ever seeing such a stacked group in contention on a back 9 at the same time down the stretch. Koepka, DJ, Tiger, Ricky, Molinari, just insane. Can't help but be really happy for Tiger. Last year all signs pointed towards a major win in the near future, but to do it in this fashion to open the year was special. Pretty sure we can all go back to wondering how many majors he gets beyond Jack, don't think it's a question of if.
It's very much a question of if. It's probably no better than a 50/50 shot he gets to 17 majors, let alone 18+. These golfers he's going against are ridiculously good, better than a lot of the guys he beat in the past. Time is also against him at 43 years of age and who knows how long his back holds up. One more back injury and that could be it; he was considering retirement after the L5-fusion 2 years ago
Koepka and DJ are probably two guys that will be in every major tournament. If Koepka doesn't plunk it into Raes Creek, he probably wins. (Yes if pigs had wings they would fly.) DJ quietly snuck back into it.
More good players for certain are playing right now.
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Some people said you could see "Barkley" through the back of the white jumpsuit.
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I’d prefer a more lofty and grandiose way to jam Tiger Woods’ win at The Masters into this space, but I’ll stick with something basic and somewhat obvious.
Woods’ caddie, Joe LaCava, wore a Saquon Barkley jersey under his all-white onesie. The number and name could be seen from the back, through the white exterior. The front of the jumpsuit was unzipped enough to show the blue base color and the top of the number — without the NFL logo that appears at the bottom of the neckline.
Via Golf.com, LaCava has a habit of wearing shirts that pay homage to New York sports teams.
Given that LaCava’s boss won The Masters with LaCava in that jersey, the official blue Barkley may become the match to the red shirt Woods always wears on Sundays.
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Pj, I dont know if you noticed, but the caddy's note pad had an Giants NY logo dead center and the logos of all four Giants Super Bowls on the cover. Was plain as day.
Some people said you could see "Barkley" through the back of the white jumpsuit.
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I’d prefer a more lofty and grandiose way to jam Tiger Woods’ win at The Masters into this space, but I’ll stick with something basic and somewhat obvious.
Woods’ caddie, Joe LaCava, wore a Saquon Barkley jersey under his all-white onesie. The number and name could be seen from the back, through the white exterior. The front of the jumpsuit was unzipped enough to show the blue base color and the top of the number — without the NFL logo that appears at the bottom of the neckline.
Via Golf.com, LaCava has a habit of wearing shirts that pay homage to New York sports teams.
Given that LaCava’s boss won The Masters with LaCava in that jersey, the official blue Barkley may become the match to the red shirt Woods always wears on Sundays.
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I was wondering who he was wearing. They discussed it last year at the Masters b/c his yardage book has the NY logo on it. yardage - ( New Window )
It's very much a question of if. It's probably no better than a 50/50 shot he gets to 17 majors, let alone 18+. These golfers he's going against are ridiculously good, better than a lot of the guys he beat in the past. Time is also against him at 43 years of age and who knows how long his back holds up. One more back injury and that could be it; he was considering retirement after the L5-fusion 2 years ago
Agree. Tiger is now the 10th oldest to win a major. Nobody has ever won more than one past his age.
don't recall ever seeing such a stacked group in contention on a back 9 at the same time down the stretch. Koepka, DJ, Tiger, Ricky, Molinari, just insane. Can't help but be really happy for Tiger. Last year all signs pointed towards a major win in the near future, but to do it in this fashion to open the year was special. Pretty sure we can all go back to wondering how many majors he gets beyond Jack, don't think it's a question of if.
It's very much a question of if. It's probably no better than a 50/50 shot he gets to 17 majors, let alone 18+. These golfers he's going against are ridiculously good, better than a lot of the guys he beat in the past. Time is also against him at 43 years of age and who knows how long his back holds up. One more back injury and that could be it; he was considering retirement after the L5-fusion 2 years ago
Injury is the only question. Last year he was in contention in 2/4 majors without being able to hit a fairway. Phil is 5 years older and still competes (when he cares enough to). Barring a recurrence of his injury issues, he's going to enter another 10-15 major tournaments as one of the favorites to win. Maybe more.
Tiger also gets credit for beating more difficult fields than Jack did
Who does he get credit from? Jack played against Palmer, Player, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Trevino, Julius Boros, Billy Casper, Ben Crenshaw, Larry Nelson and Hale Irwin along with a slew of other excellent players
11 players shot 10 under or better today. In Jack's era, 10 under more often than not won the tournament, sometimes by several shots
Jack and Ray Floyd each won at -17. Last year, only 4 players were double digits under. Was this year's field 3 times better than last year's? Maybe the soft greens and lower winds had something to do with the scoring. Today's equipment is probably 10 generations removed from Jack's day. Guy's who were driving 250 then would be over 300 now. When everyone can reach the 500 yard holes in 2, scores get better. There are 7 holes at Augusta 495 or longer. There's another handful 440-465 that guys are hitting 9 iron into. In Jack's day they were hitting 3-5 woods.
What an unctuous psycophant. Wow, that guy can spread it on thicker than cream cheese. The guy is both reverential and rhapsodic, especially when he related covering his first Masters and comparing that with this one.
What an unctuous psycophant. Wow, that guy can spread it on thicker than cream cheese. The guy is both reverential and rhapsodic, especially when he related covering his first Masters and comparing that with this one.
Who eats up this shit?
I wanted Tiger to win, but now get ready. You will never hear the end of it.
What an unctuous psycophant. Wow, that guy can spread it on thicker than cream cheese. The guy is both reverential and rhapsodic, especially when he related covering his first Masters and comparing that with this one.
Who eats up this shit?
Damn, needed my dictionary to translate this....so he was sucking up too much?
It was a bit sanctimonious.......
It’s funny because he’s changed so much but no one that hates him talks about it. And a lot of these golfers are dicks, should we hate them all?
Tiger was a big part of my childhood. He fucked up royally and paid for it dearly. He then had injuries that would end most careers and not only came back, but won. There’s far more good in his story than bad, but flame away if it makes you happy.
almost selling the moment to the point where i think he detracted from the moment, which stood on its own. I am not a huge Tiger fan, primarily because I do think he used PEDs, not because of any attitude or that he was a dick or morality or anything like that. But, he did come back from basically not competing for years and whether this is a rebirth or a one time thing, it was a tremendous achievement for him and you have to give him that.
Can someone help me understand his iron shot on 18? Â
The announcers hardly commented upon it. Did it clip the tree? How else could he have come up so short of the green?
I think he was way off to the right and just wanted to lay up to the middle, playing conservatively, since he still had 3 shots to work with. Look at how easy the shot after the one you are describing was - he put the ball perfectly in the middle. Had he gone for the green on the second shot, it could have ended badly. He only needed to shoot a 5 on the hole, so no need to gamble. Tiger 18th hole - ( New Window )
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The announcers hardly commented upon it. Did it clip the tree? How else could he have come up so short of the green?
Lol, the announces were too busy heaping praise on Tiger to continue commentating on the last few holes of the tournament. I'm not sure what happened on that hole either. But I did think it was a bit premature to essentially anoint Tiger the winner on the 16th hole. It was still close and Koepka was a poor put away from this possibly being a playoff.
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The announcers hardly commented upon it. Did it clip the tree? How else could he have come up so short of the green?
I think he was way off to the right and just wanted to lay up to the middle, playing conservatively, since he still had 3 shots to work with. Look at how easy the shot after the one you are describing was - he put the ball perfectly in the middle. Had he gone for the green on the second shot, it could have ended badly. He only needed to shoot a 5 on the hole, so no need to gamble. Tiger 18th hole - ( New Window )
That was pretty much my take on it too. Once Koepka missed his birdie putt on 18, it was pretty much all over.
The whole 18th for Tiger was just getting 5 or less and the announcers knew him getting it was a certainty. I can't blame them for getting caught up in the spectacle and incredible sports moment they were witnessing.
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The announcers hardly commented upon it. Did it clip the tree? How else could he have come up so short of the green?
I think he was way off to the right and just wanted to lay up to the middle, playing conservatively, since he still had 3 shots to work with. Look at how easy the shot after the one you are describing was - he put the ball perfectly in the middle. Had he gone for the green on the second shot, it could have ended badly. He only needed to shoot a 5 on the hole, so no need to gamble. Tiger 18th hole - ( New Window )
That was pretty much my take on it too. Once Koepka missed his birdie putt on 18, it was pretty much all over.
The whole 18th for Tiger was just getting 5 or less and the announcers knew him getting it was a certainty. I can't blame them for getting caught up in the spectacle and incredible sports moment they were witnessing.
Oh, for sure. But the announcers gave the tournament to Tiger well before the 18th and Brooks missed putt. I was wrapped up in it too but with three holes left, I was like “umm, it ain’t over yet.” Lol, all good in the end though.
Thanks, guys. I'd have loved the announcers to speak to that. Â
The announcers hardly commented upon it. Did it clip the tree? How else could he have come up so short of the green?
Lol, the announces were too busy heaping praise on Tiger to continue commentating on the last few holes of the tournament. I'm not sure what happened on that hole either. But I did think it was a bit premature to essentially anoint Tiger the winner on the 16th hole. It was still close and Koepka was a poor put away from this possibly being a playoff.
The only way for him to blow it was end up in the trees on the right or hook it left. Tiger hit his three wood instead of driver. His 3 wood is 280 to 290 but usually very straight. The wind was blowing pretty good at that point. He hit it with a little cut spin on it, probably a combination of trying to guide it and an easy swing which almost always causes cut spin.
So the ball was a little short and slightly tucked behind the trees. 10 to 15 feet left and he has a clear shot at the green. The second shot was designed to take out the bunkers and leave him a simple pitch to the middle of the green for a possible four or an almost certain five. I know that putt and so does anyone that has watched a number of Masters - it should have drifted a touch left. He hit it just where he wanted, but it never took the break - may have been wind or the slight rain.
Anyway, Tiger simply out thought the others and won by not making the big mistake. He basically stayed close enough and let the others take themselves out and took what the course gave him. He did not force a shot on the back nine and probably not during the entire round.
section, I'd have thought that if he was laying up he'd have played Â
it a bit more to the middle as opposed to what seemed to have been an awful slice. And he wasn't blocked from the green on the second shot; he just had to either hit a bit of slice or punch it under the tree, a relatively easy shot.
I'd just have liked someone to ask him about that shot. Because, as great as Tiger is, he was sweating before that putt for par. Of course he hit it great anyway, but he seemed to me to make the hole harder than it could have been for him.
No point at all sending it all the way up to green Â
and possibly having a buried lie in bunker or being above the hole with a wicked chip back down and sideways. That hole is like straight up hill if you have ever been there.
Smart play was to stay beneath the green and pitch or chip up. My guess is he still wanted that second shot to go a bit further but still be beneath the green.
comment on his approach to the green, though. How he used the slope to protect the shot and have it start to come back to the hole instead of going directly for the pin.
I think they even said that's unlike Tiger, but it fell in line with the way he played the hole with a 2-stroke lead.
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it a bit more to the middle as opposed to what seemed to have been an awful slice. And he wasn't blocked from the green on the second shot; he just had to either hit a bit of slice or punch it under the tree, a relatively easy shot.
I'd just have liked someone to ask him about that shot. Because, as great as Tiger is, he was sweating before that putt for par. Of course he hit it great anyway, but he seemed to me to make the hole harder than it could have been for him.
Yatqb - as I said, on the drive he took his 3 wood and probably mis-hit it a touch that caused that fade/leaker right and that is why it was on the right side of the fairway and a bit short. I suspect into him from left to right.
I do not know where the wind was coming from, but a high fade into the green with the wrong wind direction and it gets to a bad spot in the rough or bunker. I was surprised how short he was - but old golf saying - if you are going to lay up - then lay up. So go to a distance that is comfortable. And of course the approach shot was to get it on to the second level behind the pin and let the slope bring the ball back toward the pin. Below is a tough two putt.
Yes, he was not totally blocked on the 2nd shot, but there was a branch out over his line about 30/40 yards up- why mess with that by punching under or tryin to cut it around. I think he was about 185 out, so a punch under was out. Again, I do not know where the wind was coming from, but I am certain that if he thought he could comfortably get it onto the green, he would have gone for it.
Yes I would like to know what he was thinking or if he chunked that second shot, but it did not look like that to me.
Here's the deal. The pin is on the left. There is a lot of clear room on the right. It's an easy pitch shot to the green from that angle. He didn't hit the 2nd shot well. He said there was some mud on the ball too. But he left it right where he wanted to leave it if he hit a poor shot.
As far as the Tiger vs Jack stuff. No one has ever played golf like Tiger Woods did from 1999-2005. Whether Tiger passes Sam Snead for tour wins and Jack for majors remains to be seen. But Tiger Woods played golf at a level no one has ever come close to. Not even Jack. Tiger won 4 majors in a row.
As far as depth of field goes Jack had it easier. There are much deeper fields now.
Here's the deal. The pin is on the left. There is a lot of clear room on the right. It's an easy pitch shot to the green from that angle. He didn't hit the 2nd shot well. He said there was some mud on the ball too. But he left it right where he wanted to leave it if he hit a poor shot.
As far as the Tiger vs Jack stuff. No one has ever played golf like Tiger Woods did from 1999-2005. Whether Tiger passes Sam Snead for tour wins and Jack for majors remains to be seen. But Tiger Woods played golf at a level no one has ever come close to. Not even Jack. Tiger won 4 majors in a row.
As far as depth of field goes Jack had it easier. There are much deeper fields now.
GOAT debates are stupid. They are impossible to settle and Tiger and Jack were great. Who is better? How can anyone know. I am a huge Federer fan in tennis and I can give you 100 reasons why Federer's career has been significantly better than Nadal's. A nadal supporter can turn around and tell me look at the head to head record, etc. We can go onl all day and the effect is stupid because there is no winner. Enjoy the game and enjoy your favorite teams and athletes. These GOAT debates have become annoying
But I lost a friend who missed this Epic comeback and win
So it was a sentimental Victory guy was left for
dead proved everyone wrong looking at nearing GOAT Staus
amazing player I shed some tears ...
He barely attended the masters champions dinner because of the nerve pain in his back. He was counted out as done by many including himself. His life golf swing and health were all a mess. He isn’t getting any younger. So it was simply incredible to see him get back to the summit of a major yesterday. Haters like AWOL Stan are gonna hate and he’s been far from perfect in his personal life but I’m happy for Tiger
I was thinking that he does well at Pebble, too. I also believe he as more in him. Look at how he improved his driving from the start of the year. His putting is still spotty. Not sure what the stats will show from this weekend, but he won't be that high in putting.
The guy is phenomenal at diagnosing his weaknesses and correcting them. He has been working on those since he figured out his back was ok and he could play. All last year he improved monthly, if not weekly. He was close in the Open and the PGA put by the time he got to East Lake he was about dialed in, but the driver was a weakness. He figured out his shaft was wrong for what he was doing and capable of and replaced it.
I would not be surprised to see his putting improve in the next few tournaments...
He will win a couple more events this year.
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The US Open (Pebble Beach) and the PGA (Bethpage Black) are courses where he has won majors in the past, so his confidence will be sky high
I was thinking that he does well at Pebble, too. I also believe he as more in him. Look at how he improved his driving from the start of the year. His putting is still spotty. Not sure what the stats will show from this weekend, but he won't be that high in putting.
The guy is phenomenal at diagnosing his weaknesses and correcting them. He has been working on those since he figured out his back was ok and he could play. All last year he improved monthly, if not weekly. He was close in the Open and the PGA put by the time he got to East Lake he was about dialed in, but the driver was a weakness. He figured out his shaft was wrong for what he was doing and capable of and replaced it.
I would not be surprised to see his putting improve in the next few tournaments...
He will win a couple more events this year.
The US Open is really hard to figure because you never know how the USGA will trick up the course. If it wasn't played at Pebble Beach I'd think there's no way Tiger is getting close to winning it, but it's at Pebble and he's far more experienced on that course than anyone else contending for majors except for maybe Phil. Bethpage Black is normally a US Open course but it's hosting the PGA so it won't be as hard to play. So you figure the winner there is going to post a very low score, as long as the weather is OK. The British Open course is probably advantage Rory because it's in Northern Ireland and he's probably played it a lot while most of the other golfers (especially the American players) might be seeing it for the first time
(Banging head on desk.)
It's very much a question of if. It's probably no better than a 50/50 shot he gets to 17 majors, let alone 18+. These golfers he's going against are ridiculously good, better than a lot of the guys he beat in the past. Time is also against him at 43 years of age and who knows how long his back holds up. One more back injury and that could be it; he was considering retirement after the L5-fusion 2 years ago
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don't recall ever seeing such a stacked group in contention on a back 9 at the same time down the stretch. Koepka, DJ, Tiger, Ricky, Molinari, just insane. Can't help but be really happy for Tiger. Last year all signs pointed towards a major win in the near future, but to do it in this fashion to open the year was special. Pretty sure we can all go back to wondering how many majors he gets beyond Jack, don't think it's a question of if.
It's very much a question of if. It's probably no better than a 50/50 shot he gets to 17 majors, let alone 18+. These golfers he's going against are ridiculously good, better than a lot of the guys he beat in the past. Time is also against him at 43 years of age and who knows how long his back holds up. One more back injury and that could be it; he was considering retirement after the L5-fusion 2 years ago
Koepka and DJ are probably two guys that will be in every major tournament. If Koepka doesn't plunk it into Raes Creek, he probably wins. (Yes if pigs had wings they would fly.) DJ quietly snuck back into it.
More good players for certain are playing right now.
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I’d prefer a more lofty and grandiose way to jam Tiger Woods’ win at The Masters into this space, but I’ll stick with something basic and somewhat obvious.
Woods’ caddie, Joe LaCava, wore a Saquon Barkley jersey under his all-white onesie. The number and name could be seen from the back, through the white exterior. The front of the jumpsuit was unzipped enough to show the blue base color and the top of the number — without the NFL logo that appears at the bottom of the neckline.
Via Golf.com, LaCava has a habit of wearing shirts that pay homage to New York sports teams.
Given that LaCava’s boss won The Masters with LaCava in that jersey, the official blue Barkley may become the match to the red shirt Woods always wears on Sundays.
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Pj, I dont know if you noticed, but the caddy's note pad had an Giants NY logo dead center and the logos of all four Giants Super Bowls on the cover. Was plain as day.
Very cool rare golf watch for me.
The fuck???
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I’d prefer a more lofty and grandiose way to jam Tiger Woods’ win at The Masters into this space, but I’ll stick with something basic and somewhat obvious.
Woods’ caddie, Joe LaCava, wore a Saquon Barkley jersey under his all-white onesie. The number and name could be seen from the back, through the white exterior. The front of the jumpsuit was unzipped enough to show the blue base color and the top of the number — without the NFL logo that appears at the bottom of the neckline.
Via Golf.com, LaCava has a habit of wearing shirts that pay homage to New York sports teams.
Given that LaCava’s boss won The Masters with LaCava in that jersey, the official blue Barkley may become the match to the red shirt Woods always wears on Sundays.
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I was wondering who he was wearing. They discussed it last year at the Masters b/c his yardage book has the NY logo on it.
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It's very much a question of if. It's probably no better than a 50/50 shot he gets to 17 majors, let alone 18+. These golfers he's going against are ridiculously good, better than a lot of the guys he beat in the past. Time is also against him at 43 years of age and who knows how long his back holds up. One more back injury and that could be it; he was considering retirement after the L5-fusion 2 years ago
Agree. Tiger is now the 10th oldest to win a major. Nobody has ever won more than one past his age.
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don't recall ever seeing such a stacked group in contention on a back 9 at the same time down the stretch. Koepka, DJ, Tiger, Ricky, Molinari, just insane. Can't help but be really happy for Tiger. Last year all signs pointed towards a major win in the near future, but to do it in this fashion to open the year was special. Pretty sure we can all go back to wondering how many majors he gets beyond Jack, don't think it's a question of if.
It's very much a question of if. It's probably no better than a 50/50 shot he gets to 17 majors, let alone 18+. These golfers he's going against are ridiculously good, better than a lot of the guys he beat in the past. Time is also against him at 43 years of age and who knows how long his back holds up. One more back injury and that could be it; he was considering retirement after the L5-fusion 2 years ago
Injury is the only question. Last year he was in contention in 2/4 majors without being able to hit a fairway. Phil is 5 years older and still competes (when he cares enough to). Barring a recurrence of his injury issues, he's going to enter another 10-15 major tournaments as one of the favorites to win. Maybe more.
stay away from the course this year - they’ll now be flooded with tiger warriors
That asshole has earned every bit he gets...
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Tiger also gets credit for beating more difficult fields than Jack did
Who does he get credit from? Jack played against Palmer, Player, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Trevino, Julius Boros, Billy Casper, Ben Crenshaw, Larry Nelson and Hale Irwin along with a slew of other excellent players
11 players shot 10 under or better today. In Jack's era, 10 under more often than not won the tournament, sometimes by several shots
Jack and Ray Floyd each won at -17. Last year, only 4 players were double digits under. Was this year's field 3 times better than last year's? Maybe the soft greens and lower winds had something to do with the scoring. Today's equipment is probably 10 generations removed from Jack's day. Guy's who were driving 250 then would be over 300 now. When everyone can reach the 500 yard holes in 2, scores get better. There are 7 holes at Augusta 495 or longer. There's another handful 440-465 that guys are hitting 9 iron into. In Jack's day they were hitting 3-5 woods.
...I wanted to throw up several times.
What an unctuous psycophant. Wow, that guy can spread it on thicker than cream cheese. The guy is both reverential and rhapsodic, especially when he related covering his first Masters and comparing that with this one.
Who eats up this shit?
...I wanted to throw up several times.
What an unctuous psycophant. Wow, that guy can spread it on thicker than cream cheese. The guy is both reverential and rhapsodic, especially when he related covering his first Masters and comparing that with this one.
Who eats up this shit?
I wanted Tiger to win, but now get ready. You will never hear the end of it.
...I wanted to throw up several times.
What an unctuous psycophant. Wow, that guy can spread it on thicker than cream cheese. The guy is both reverential and rhapsodic, especially when he related covering his first Masters and comparing that with this one.
Who eats up this shit?
Damn, needed my dictionary to translate this....so he was sucking up too much?
It was a bit sanctimonious.......
It’s funny because he’s changed so much but no one that hates him talks about it. And a lot of these golfers are dicks, should we hate them all?
Tiger was a big part of my childhood. He fucked up royally and paid for it dearly. He then had injuries that would end most careers and not only came back, but won. There’s far more good in his story than bad, but flame away if it makes you happy.
If you need a friend buy a dog. If you need a role model, don’t look at athletes...
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anything happen to you lately that would entertain me?
I fucked your mom?
Classy.
Then you've picked the wrong sport. Maybe try bowling, they're mostly humble.
Ive never met him but have seen others post having a similar experience as you. Care to share yours?
As they're passing judgement on who is a bad person.
Irony is not dead.
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and terrible behavior, even for a fan site.
As they're passing judgement on who is a bad person.
Irony is not dead.
but clearly his brain is...
I think he was way off to the right and just wanted to lay up to the middle, playing conservatively, since he still had 3 shots to work with. Look at how easy the shot after the one you are describing was - he put the ball perfectly in the middle. Had he gone for the green on the second shot, it could have ended badly. He only needed to shoot a 5 on the hole, so no need to gamble.
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Lol, the announces were too busy heaping praise on Tiger to continue commentating on the last few holes of the tournament. I'm not sure what happened on that hole either. But I did think it was a bit premature to essentially anoint Tiger the winner on the 16th hole. It was still close and Koepka was a poor put away from this possibly being a playoff.
He already knew what BK ended with so...
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The announcers hardly commented upon it. Did it clip the tree? How else could he have come up so short of the green?
I think he was way off to the right and just wanted to lay up to the middle, playing conservatively, since he still had 3 shots to work with. Look at how easy the shot after the one you are describing was - he put the ball perfectly in the middle. Had he gone for the green on the second shot, it could have ended badly. He only needed to shoot a 5 on the hole, so no need to gamble. Tiger 18th hole - ( New Window )
That was pretty much my take on it too. Once Koepka missed his birdie putt on 18, it was pretty much all over.
The whole 18th for Tiger was just getting 5 or less and the announcers knew him getting it was a certainty. I can't blame them for getting caught up in the spectacle and incredible sports moment they were witnessing.
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The announcers hardly commented upon it. Did it clip the tree? How else could he have come up so short of the green?
I think he was way off to the right and just wanted to lay up to the middle, playing conservatively, since he still had 3 shots to work with. Look at how easy the shot after the one you are describing was - he put the ball perfectly in the middle. Had he gone for the green on the second shot, it could have ended badly. He only needed to shoot a 5 on the hole, so no need to gamble. Tiger 18th hole - ( New Window )
That was pretty much my take on it too. Once Koepka missed his birdie putt on 18, it was pretty much all over.
The whole 18th for Tiger was just getting 5 or less and the announcers knew him getting it was a certainty. I can't blame them for getting caught up in the spectacle and incredible sports moment they were witnessing.
Oh, for sure. But the announcers gave the tournament to Tiger well before the 18th and Brooks missed putt. I was wrapped up in it too but with three holes left, I was like “umm, it ain’t over yet.” Lol, all good in the end though.
Even if he put it in the bunker he'd have been there in two and wouldn't have needed to get up and down for par to win. Just really surprising to me.
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The announcers hardly commented upon it. Did it clip the tree? How else could he have come up so short of the green?
Lol, the announces were too busy heaping praise on Tiger to continue commentating on the last few holes of the tournament. I'm not sure what happened on that hole either. But I did think it was a bit premature to essentially anoint Tiger the winner on the 16th hole. It was still close and Koepka was a poor put away from this possibly being a playoff.
The only way for him to blow it was end up in the trees on the right or hook it left. Tiger hit his three wood instead of driver. His 3 wood is 280 to 290 but usually very straight. The wind was blowing pretty good at that point. He hit it with a little cut spin on it, probably a combination of trying to guide it and an easy swing which almost always causes cut spin.
So the ball was a little short and slightly tucked behind the trees. 10 to 15 feet left and he has a clear shot at the green. The second shot was designed to take out the bunkers and leave him a simple pitch to the middle of the green for a possible four or an almost certain five. I know that putt and so does anyone that has watched a number of Masters - it should have drifted a touch left. He hit it just where he wanted, but it never took the break - may have been wind or the slight rain.
Anyway, Tiger simply out thought the others and won by not making the big mistake. He basically stayed close enough and let the others take themselves out and took what the course gave him. He did not force a shot on the back nine and probably not during the entire round.
I'd just have liked someone to ask him about that shot. Because, as great as Tiger is, he was sweating before that putt for par. Of course he hit it great anyway, but he seemed to me to make the hole harder than it could have been for him.
Smart play was to stay beneath the green and pitch or chip up. My guess is he still wanted that second shot to go a bit further but still be beneath the green.
I think they even said that's unlike Tiger, but it fell in line with the way he played the hole with a 2-stroke lead.
I'd just have liked someone to ask him about that shot. Because, as great as Tiger is, he was sweating before that putt for par. Of course he hit it great anyway, but he seemed to me to make the hole harder than it could have been for him.
Yatqb - as I said, on the drive he took his 3 wood and probably mis-hit it a touch that caused that fade/leaker right and that is why it was on the right side of the fairway and a bit short. I suspect into him from left to right.
I do not know where the wind was coming from, but a high fade into the green with the wrong wind direction and it gets to a bad spot in the rough or bunker. I was surprised how short he was - but old golf saying - if you are going to lay up - then lay up. So go to a distance that is comfortable. And of course the approach shot was to get it on to the second level behind the pin and let the slope bring the ball back toward the pin. Below is a tough two putt.
Yes, he was not totally blocked on the 2nd shot, but there was a branch out over his line about 30/40 yards up- why mess with that by punching under or tryin to cut it around. I think he was about 185 out, so a punch under was out. Again, I do not know where the wind was coming from, but I am certain that if he thought he could comfortably get it onto the green, he would have gone for it.
Yes I would like to know what he was thinking or if he chunked that second shot, but it did not look like that to me.
Stan.. lol.
As far as the Tiger vs Jack stuff. No one has ever played golf like Tiger Woods did from 1999-2005. Whether Tiger passes Sam Snead for tour wins and Jack for majors remains to be seen. But Tiger Woods played golf at a level no one has ever come close to. Not even Jack. Tiger won 4 majors in a row.
As far as depth of field goes Jack had it easier. There are much deeper fields now.
As far as the Tiger vs Jack stuff. No one has ever played golf like Tiger Woods did from 1999-2005. Whether Tiger passes Sam Snead for tour wins and Jack for majors remains to be seen. But Tiger Woods played golf at a level no one has ever come close to. Not even Jack. Tiger won 4 majors in a row.
As far as depth of field goes Jack had it easier. There are much deeper fields now.
GOAT debates are stupid. They are impossible to settle and Tiger and Jack were great. Who is better? How can anyone know. I am a huge Federer fan in tennis and I can give you 100 reasons why Federer's career has been significantly better than Nadal's. A nadal supporter can turn around and tell me look at the head to head record, etc. We can go onl all day and the effect is stupid because there is no winner. Enjoy the game and enjoy your favorite teams and athletes. These GOAT debates have become annoying
So it was a sentimental Victory guy was left for
dead proved everyone wrong looking at nearing GOAT Staus
amazing player I shed some tears ...