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DC Gmen Fan : 4/14/2019 8:07 am
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Bigger than a Giants Super Bowl win for me.  
section125 : 4/14/2019 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14386163 FrankieR said:
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This is awesome!



Whaaaaaat?



Is it crazy to think that golf is a bigger passion of mine than football? My handle is GiantGolfer you know...and Tiger is my favorite golfer.



You know how I know you're gay? And NTTAWWT.


Now why isn't this ban-able?
Oh relax, I was teasing him.  
FrankieR : 4/14/2019 3:40 pm : link
I was surprised like everybody else that he said that a Super Bowl was less important than a Tiger win. Also its a commonly thrown about movie line.

Golfer I didnt mean anything by it other than to bust your balls.
I  
mitch300 : 4/14/2019 3:43 pm : link
Didn’t know you can chew gum on the course. Seem Phil and now Tiger.
RE: Oh relax, I was teasing him.  
section125 : 4/14/2019 3:44 pm : link
In comment 14386175 FrankieR said:
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I was surprised like everybody else that he said that a Super Bowl was less important than a Tiger win. Also its a commonly thrown about movie line.

Golfer I didnt mean anything by it other than to bust your balls.


That could get you fired from work in today's climate.

And so what if somebody likes golf more than football. I'd prefer a Yankees World Series than a Giants Super Bowl.
RE: RE: Oh relax, I was teasing him.  
FrankieR : 4/14/2019 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14386179 section125 said:
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In comment 14386175 FrankieR said:


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I was surprised like everybody else that he said that a Super Bowl was less important than a Tiger win. Also its a commonly thrown about movie line.

Golfer I didnt mean anything by it other than to bust your balls.



That could get you fired from work in today's climate.

And so what if somebody likes golf more than football. I'd prefer a Yankees World Series than a Giants Super Bowl.


K. I didnt say it at work. Its a football message board and I engage in guy humor from time to time. Sorry if you were offended.

A major step towards Tiger statistically being golf's greatest  
dpinzow : 4/14/2019 3:49 pm : link
Now it's 15 majors, 2nd all time to the Nicklaus 18, and 81 PGA Tour wins, 1 behind Sam Snead for the record number of total wins. I don't think he has to catch Jack's 18 majors to be GOAT. He could win 1 more major and 7-8 other tour events to be universally regarded as the #1 golfer ever. Tiger also gets credit for beating more difficult fields than Jack did
RE: RE: RE: Oh relax, I was teasing him.  
section125 : 4/14/2019 3:52 pm : link
In comment 14386184 FrankieR said:
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In comment 14386175 FrankieR said:


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I was surprised like everybody else that he said that a Super Bowl was less important than a Tiger win. Also its a commonly thrown about movie line.

Golfer I didnt mean anything by it other than to bust your balls.



That could get you fired from work in today's climate.

And so what if somebody likes golf more than football. I'd prefer a Yankees World Series than a Giants Super Bowl.



K. I didnt say it at work. Its a football message board and I engage in guy humor from time to time. Sorry if you were offended.


I'm not offended at all and people get fired for the social media postings ....(which I think is stupid btw)
Tiger is also partially responsible  
Oscar : 4/14/2019 3:53 pm : link
For creating those difficult fields. Nobody has done more for the popularity of the sport, and I’m sure more than a few of these younger golfers watched Tiger growing up.
Damn,  
dorgan : 4/14/2019 3:55 pm : link
you guys find a reason to fight about anything.
Great tournament. Some very challenging greens were easier than normal due to the wet conditions and a little less wind than normal.

I'm not a big Tiger fan, but he earned it. When you beat the best on the big stage, you earned the accolades.

a fucking fight on a golf thread  
Jints in Carolina : 4/14/2019 4:03 pm : link
awesome
RE: Tiger is also partially responsible  
Jim in Fairfax : 4/14/2019 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14386193 Oscar said:
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For creating those difficult fields. Nobody has done more for the popularity of the sport, and I’m sure more than a few of these younger golfers watched Tiger growing up.

It’s mostly about the money. In previous generations, you had to win regularly or you wouldn’t win enough money to stay on tour. This led to a smaller group of great players who were driven to be pro golfers.

1988 was the first year even 1 player won $1 million for the year. Last year, 114 players did. It lets a lot more talent stay on tour. Many of them just cruise along on talent, only rarely pressing themselves.
RE: A major step towards Tiger statistically being golf's greatest  
Bill in UT : 4/14/2019 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14386187 dpinzow said:
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Tiger also gets credit for beating more difficult fields than Jack did


Who does he get credit from? Jack played against Palmer, Player, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Trevino, Julius Boros, Billy Casper, Ben Crenshaw, Larry Nelson and Hale Irwin along with a slew of other excellent players
Sorry for getting the thread derailed.  
FrankieR : 4/14/2019 4:23 pm : link
Thought it would get taken the right way.

For what its worth, I rarely watch golf, but tuned in at about noon and ignored the Yanks start to watch. Very happy for Tiger. I think he has been through it all and really enjoyed watching his poise through the back 9.

Does anybody think he can go on another run at more majors? He looked awfully good today.
RE: RE: A major step towards Tiger statistically being golf's greatest  
dpinzow : 4/14/2019 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14386216 Bill in UT said:
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Tiger also gets credit for beating more difficult fields than Jack did



Who does he get credit from? Jack played against Palmer, Player, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Trevino, Julius Boros, Billy Casper, Ben Crenshaw, Larry Nelson and Hale Irwin along with a slew of other excellent players


11 players shot 10 under or better today. In Jack's era, 10 under more often than not won the tournament, sometimes by several shots
I was @ the Tour Championship @ East Lake last  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/14/2019 4:26 pm : link
September & my buddy was convinced El Tigre would win the Masters. I counted it up too many brews, but he was right. And Lord is he letting me know today.
I think Tiger can win another one this year  
dpinzow : 4/14/2019 4:29 pm : link
The US Open (Pebble Beach) and the PGA (Bethpage Black) are courses where he has won majors in the past, so his confidence will be sky high
Back in 1986, when Jack won The Masters  
BlackLight : 4/14/2019 4:36 pm : link
for whatever reason, his two U.S. Amateur titles were also treated like majors, and with that Green Jacket, his "official" majors total was 20.


At some point, those stopped being considered Majors, but under the old definition, Tiger already has 18 Major victories to Jack's 20.
RE: RE: RE: A major step towards Tiger statistically being golf's greatest  
dorgan : 4/14/2019 4:36 pm : link
In comment 14386236 dpinzow said:
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Tiger also gets credit for beating more difficult fields than Jack did



Who does he get credit from? Jack played against Palmer, Player, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Trevino, Julius Boros, Billy Casper, Ben Crenshaw, Larry Nelson and Hale Irwin along with a slew of other excellent players



11 players shot 10 under or better today. In Jack's era, 10 under more often than not won the tournament, sometimes by several shots


Does Tiger get credit for the advances in equipment and training regimens too? You are really stretching here. He's great. The fields are tough now. The fields were tough back then too.
I didn't notice this but kind of cool from PFT  
pjcas18 : 4/14/2019 4:47 pm : link
Some people said you could see "Barkley" through the back of the white jumpsuit.



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I’d prefer a more lofty and grandiose way to jam Tiger Woods’ win at The Masters into this space, but I’ll stick with something basic and somewhat obvious.

Woods’ caddie, Joe LaCava, wore a Saquon Barkley jersey under his all-white onesie. The number and name could be seen from the back, through the white exterior. The front of the jumpsuit was unzipped enough to show the blue base color and the top of the number — without the NFL logo that appears at the bottom of the neckline.

Via Golf.com, LaCava has a habit of wearing shirts that pay homage to New York sports teams.

Given that LaCava’s boss won The Masters with LaCava in that jersey, the official blue Barkley may become the match to the red shirt Woods always wears on Sundays.


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RE: I think Tiger can win another one this year  
section125 : 4/14/2019 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14386242 dpinzow said:
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The US Open (Pebble Beach) and the PGA (Bethpage Black) are courses where he has won majors in the past, so his confidence will be sky high


I was thinking that he does well at Pebble, too. I also believe he as more in him. Look at how he improved his driving from the start of the year. His putting is still spotty. Not sure what the stats will show from this weekend, but he won't be that high in putting.
The guy is phenomenal at diagnosing his weaknesses and correcting them. He has been working on those since he figured out his back was ok and he could play. All last year he improved monthly, if not weekly. He was close in the Open and the PGA put by the time he got to East Lake he was about dialed in, but the driver was a weakness. He figured out his shaft was wrong for what he was doing and capable of and replaced it.
I would not be surprised to see his putting improve in the next few tournaments...
He will win a couple more events this year.
This was really an all time classic  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2019 4:53 pm : link
don't recall ever seeing such a stacked group in contention on a back 9 at the same time down the stretch. Koepka, DJ, Tiger, Ricky, Molinari, just insane. Can't help but be really happy for Tiger. Last year all signs pointed towards a major win in the near future, but to do it in this fashion to open the year was special. Pretty sure we can all go back to wondering how many majors he gets beyond Jack, don't think it's a question of if.
RE: RE: I think Tiger can win another one this year  
dpinzow : 4/14/2019 4:53 pm : link
In comment 14386261 section125 said:
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The US Open (Pebble Beach) and the PGA (Bethpage Black) are courses where he has won majors in the past, so his confidence will be sky high



I was thinking that he does well at Pebble, too. I also believe he as more in him. Look at how he improved his driving from the start of the year. His putting is still spotty. Not sure what the stats will show from this weekend, but he won't be that high in putting.
The guy is phenomenal at diagnosing his weaknesses and correcting them. He has been working on those since he figured out his back was ok and he could play. All last year he improved monthly, if not weekly. He was close in the Open and the PGA put by the time he got to East Lake he was about dialed in, but the driver was a weakness. He figured out his shaft was wrong for what he was doing and capable of and replaced it.
I would not be surprised to see his putting improve in the next few tournaments...
He will win a couple more events this year.


The US Open is really hard to figure because you never know how the USGA will trick up the course. If it wasn't played at Pebble Beach I'd think there's no way Tiger is getting close to winning it, but it's at Pebble and he's far more experienced on that course than anyone else contending for majors except for maybe Phil. Bethpage Black is normally a US Open course but it's hosting the PGA so it won't be as hard to play. So you figure the winner there is going to post a very low score, as long as the weather is OK. The British Open course is probably advantage Rory because it's in Northern Ireland and he's probably played it a lot while most of the other golfers (especially the American players) might be seeing it for the first time
I would actually be surprised if he DOESN'T  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/14/2019 4:54 pm : link
win another Major. Huge weight off his back. He's incredibly dialed in & probably the healthiest he's been in ages. He's back.

(Banging head on desk.)
RE: This was really an all time classic  
dpinzow : 4/14/2019 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14386266 Eric on Li said:
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don't recall ever seeing such a stacked group in contention on a back 9 at the same time down the stretch. Koepka, DJ, Tiger, Ricky, Molinari, just insane. Can't help but be really happy for Tiger. Last year all signs pointed towards a major win in the near future, but to do it in this fashion to open the year was special. Pretty sure we can all go back to wondering how many majors he gets beyond Jack, don't think it's a question of if.


It's very much a question of if. It's probably no better than a 50/50 shot he gets to 17 majors, let alone 18+. These golfers he's going against are ridiculously good, better than a lot of the guys he beat in the past. Time is also against him at 43 years of age and who knows how long his back holds up. One more back injury and that could be it; he was considering retirement after the L5-fusion 2 years ago
RE: RE: This was really an all time classic  
section125 : 4/14/2019 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14386272 dpinzow said:
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don't recall ever seeing such a stacked group in contention on a back 9 at the same time down the stretch. Koepka, DJ, Tiger, Ricky, Molinari, just insane. Can't help but be really happy for Tiger. Last year all signs pointed towards a major win in the near future, but to do it in this fashion to open the year was special. Pretty sure we can all go back to wondering how many majors he gets beyond Jack, don't think it's a question of if.



It's very much a question of if. It's probably no better than a 50/50 shot he gets to 17 majors, let alone 18+. These golfers he's going against are ridiculously good, better than a lot of the guys he beat in the past. Time is also against him at 43 years of age and who knows how long his back holds up. One more back injury and that could be it; he was considering retirement after the L5-fusion 2 years ago


Koepka and DJ are probably two guys that will be in every major tournament. If Koepka doesn't plunk it into Raes Creek, he probably wins. (Yes if pigs had wings they would fly.) DJ quietly snuck back into it.
More good players for certain are playing right now.
RE: I didn't notice this but kind of cool from PFT  
FrankieR : 4/14/2019 5:07 pm : link
In comment 14386260 pjcas18 said:
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Some people said you could see "Barkley" through the back of the white jumpsuit.





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I’d prefer a more lofty and grandiose way to jam Tiger Woods’ win at The Masters into this space, but I’ll stick with something basic and somewhat obvious.

Woods’ caddie, Joe LaCava, wore a Saquon Barkley jersey under his all-white onesie. The number and name could be seen from the back, through the white exterior. The front of the jumpsuit was unzipped enough to show the blue base color and the top of the number — without the NFL logo that appears at the bottom of the neckline.

Via Golf.com, LaCava has a habit of wearing shirts that pay homage to New York sports teams.

Given that LaCava’s boss won The Masters with LaCava in that jersey, the official blue Barkley may become the match to the red shirt Woods always wears on Sundays.

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Pj, I dont know if you noticed, but the caddy's note pad had an Giants NY logo dead center and the logos of all four Giants Super Bowls on the cover. Was plain as day.

Very cool rare golf watch for me.
RE: Bigger than a Giants Super Bowl win for me.  
SHO'NUFF : 4/14/2019 5:09 pm : link
In comment 14386084 GiantGolfer said:
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This is awesome!


The fuck???
RE: I didn't notice this but kind of cool from PFT  
jestersdead : 4/14/2019 5:11 pm : link
In comment 14386260 pjcas18 said:
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Some people said you could see "Barkley" through the back of the white jumpsuit.





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I’d prefer a more lofty and grandiose way to jam Tiger Woods’ win at The Masters into this space, but I’ll stick with something basic and somewhat obvious.

Woods’ caddie, Joe LaCava, wore a Saquon Barkley jersey under his all-white onesie. The number and name could be seen from the back, through the white exterior. The front of the jumpsuit was unzipped enough to show the blue base color and the top of the number — without the NFL logo that appears at the bottom of the neckline.

Via Golf.com, LaCava has a habit of wearing shirts that pay homage to New York sports teams.

Given that LaCava’s boss won The Masters with LaCava in that jersey, the official blue Barkley may become the match to the red shirt Woods always wears on Sundays.

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I was wondering who he was wearing. They discussed it last year at the Masters b/c his yardage book has the NY logo on it.
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RE: RE: This was really an all time classic  
Jim in Fairfax : 4/14/2019 5:12 pm : link
In comment 14386272 dpinzow said:
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It's very much a question of if. It's probably no better than a 50/50 shot he gets to 17 majors, let alone 18+. These golfers he's going against are ridiculously good, better than a lot of the guys he beat in the past. Time is also against him at 43 years of age and who knows how long his back holds up. One more back injury and that could be it; he was considering retirement after the L5-fusion 2 years ago

Agree. Tiger is now the 10th oldest to win a major. Nobody has ever won more than one past his age.
RE: RE: This was really an all time classic  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2019 5:19 pm : link
In comment 14386272 dpinzow said:
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don't recall ever seeing such a stacked group in contention on a back 9 at the same time down the stretch. Koepka, DJ, Tiger, Ricky, Molinari, just insane. Can't help but be really happy for Tiger. Last year all signs pointed towards a major win in the near future, but to do it in this fashion to open the year was special. Pretty sure we can all go back to wondering how many majors he gets beyond Jack, don't think it's a question of if.



It's very much a question of if. It's probably no better than a 50/50 shot he gets to 17 majors, let alone 18+. These golfers he's going against are ridiculously good, better than a lot of the guys he beat in the past. Time is also against him at 43 years of age and who knows how long his back holds up. One more back injury and that could be it; he was considering retirement after the L5-fusion 2 years ago


Injury is the only question. Last year he was in contention in 2/4 majors without being able to hit a fairway. Phil is 5 years older and still competes (when he cares enough to). Barring a recurrence of his injury issues, he's going to enter another 10-15 major tournaments as one of the favorites to win. Maybe more.
One of the greatest icons in all of sports  
mattlawson : 4/14/2019 5:28 pm : link
Happy for him. The man is BACK.

stay away from the course this year - they’ll now be flooded with tiger warriors
RE: You  
speedywheels : 4/14/2019 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14386171 AcidTest said:
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guys give Stan too much grief.


That asshole has earned every bit he gets...
Joey LaCava has been wearing his Giants gear  
GiantGolfer : 4/14/2019 5:47 pm : link
since he caddied for Fred Couples back in the 80s/90s.
RE: RE: RE: A major step towards Tiger statistically being golf's greatest  
Bill in UT : 4/14/2019 6:10 pm : link
In comment 14386236 dpinzow said:
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Tiger also gets credit for beating more difficult fields than Jack did



Who does he get credit from? Jack played against Palmer, Player, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Trevino, Julius Boros, Billy Casper, Ben Crenshaw, Larry Nelson and Hale Irwin along with a slew of other excellent players



11 players shot 10 under or better today. In Jack's era, 10 under more often than not won the tournament, sometimes by several shots


Jack and Ray Floyd each won at -17. Last year, only 4 players were double digits under. Was this year's field 3 times better than last year's? Maybe the soft greens and lower winds had something to do with the scoring. Today's equipment is probably 10 generations removed from Jack's day. Guy's who were driving 250 then would be over 300 now. When everyone can reach the 500 yard holes in 2, scores get better. There are 7 holes at Augusta 495 or longer. There's another handful 440-465 that guys are hitting 9 iron into. In Jack's day they were hitting 3-5 woods.
ok  
Bill in UT : 4/14/2019 6:18 pm : link
to be fair, I just checked and the course has been lengthened over time. But I don't think it's kept up with the distance guys hit the ball now.
It’s impossible to compare golf from Nicklaus era  
GiantGolfer : 4/14/2019 6:28 pm : link
to today’s era. Way too many variables.
Watching Jim Nance Interview Tiger Woods...  
M.S. : 4/14/2019 7:03 pm : link

...I wanted to throw up several times.

What an unctuous psycophant. Wow, that guy can spread it on thicker than cream cheese. The guy is both reverential and rhapsodic, especially when he related covering his first Masters and comparing that with this one.

Who eats up this shit?
RE: Watching Jim Nance Interview Tiger Woods...  
Jints in Carolina : 4/14/2019 7:16 pm : link
In comment 14386392 M.S. said:
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...I wanted to throw up several times.

What an unctuous psycophant. Wow, that guy can spread it on thicker than cream cheese. The guy is both reverential and rhapsodic, especially when he related covering his first Masters and comparing that with this one.

Who eats up this shit?


I wanted Tiger to win, but now get ready. You will never hear the end of it.
RE: Watching Jim Nance Interview Tiger Woods...  
section125 : 4/14/2019 7:25 pm : link
In comment 14386392 M.S. said:
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...I wanted to throw up several times.

What an unctuous psycophant. Wow, that guy can spread it on thicker than cream cheese. The guy is both reverential and rhapsodic, especially when he related covering his first Masters and comparing that with this one.

Who eats up this shit?


Damn, needed my dictionary to translate this....so he was sucking up too much?
It was a bit sanctimonious.......
why the fuck do people root for Tiger?  
SHO'NUFF : 4/14/2019 8:18 pm : link
From most accounts, the man is a total dick.
RE: why the fuck do people root for Tiger?  
UConn4523 : 4/14/2019 8:27 pm : link
In comment 14386451 SHO'NUFF said:
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From most accounts, the man is a total dick.


It’s funny because he’s changed so much but no one that hates him talks about it. And a lot of these golfers are dicks, should we hate them all?

Tiger was a big part of my childhood. He fucked up royally and paid for it dearly. He then had injuries that would end most careers and not only came back, but won. There’s far more good in his story than bad, but flame away if it makes you happy.
the cheating doesn't bother me...  
SHO'NUFF : 4/14/2019 8:32 pm : link
but I have a personal experience with him and heard of many more...I just can't root for entitled assholes.
I root for him because tiger makes golf more entertaining  
Jimmy Googs : 4/14/2019 8:35 pm : link
to watch. His flair for the dramatics are more than the rest of the field combined. Always has been that way and continues today.

If you need a friend buy a dog. If you need a role model, don’t look at athletes...
so you like it when good things happen to bad people  
SHO'NUFF : 4/14/2019 8:45 pm : link
just because it entertains you?
Yeah that's what I like  
Jimmy Googs : 4/14/2019 8:54 pm : link
anything happen to you lately that would entertain me?
RE: RE: Yeah that's what I like  
PetesHereNow : 4/14/2019 9:15 pm : link
In comment 14386488 SHO'NUFF said:
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anything happen to you lately that would entertain me?



I fucked your mom?


Classy.
Awful post  
Jimmy Googs : 4/14/2019 9:15 pm : link
and terrible behavior, even for a fan site.
RE: the cheating doesn't bother me...  
schabadoo : 4/14/2019 9:15 pm : link
In comment 14386469 SHO'NUFF said:
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but I have a personal experience with him and heard of many more...I just can't root for entitled assholes.


Then you've picked the wrong sport. Maybe try bowling, they're mostly humble.
RE: the cheating doesn't bother me...  
jestersdead : 4/14/2019 9:17 pm : link
In comment 14386469 SHO'NUFF said:
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but I have a personal experience with him and heard of many more...I just can't root for entitled assholes.

Ive never met him but have seen others post having a similar experience as you. Care to share yours?

RE: Awful post  
schabadoo : 4/14/2019 9:18 pm : link
In comment 14386493 Jimmy Googs said:
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and terrible behavior, even for a fan site.


As they're passing judgement on who is a bad person.

Irony is not dead.
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