can't wait, but I must admit it is a little bittersweet.
The trailers all look awesome, I've avoided redditt so I don't get any actual leaked plots.
thought I'd start a discussion thread, in case people want to discuss the final season.
Also, on a side note, this is like the old school HBO Sunday night lineups with GOT, Barry, than Veep.
so it's not a problem with Headley per se, who is fantastic in the role, it's the only casting miss, and it's really nitpicking.
But...she plays the role so perfectly I can get past it, but that was almost literally the only casting decision I question in a story with tons of characters that the author went in to tremendous detail describing.
the other minor casting issue for me was Brienne. She was supposed to be grotesquely hideous. Like an animal. She's definitely tall and I guess manly, but she's not as hideous as I imagined. Probably hard to just find an ugly actress without makeup/disguise.
The final casting issue I have (besides character switches) and it's more plot than casting is Tyrion at the battle of Blackwater lost his nose with I think an axe. While I didn't expect in the show he'd have no nose, I was hoping he'd be worse scarred or disfigured than he is.
it's remarkable the casting job they did overall, spot on nailed almost everyone.
I've been saying that about Cersei the whole time. Lena Headey is a fantastic actress and she has been perfect in the role, but from a physical standpoint and the description of the character in the books, she just doesn't fit. I'm not going to go so far as to call her unattractive, but she probably doesn't even crack the top 10 most attractive actresses on GoT alone.
Tyrion is described as hideous in the books, with mismatched eyes and grotesque facial features. But not in the show. So Dinklage doesn't match that.
Daenerys was a teenager in the first book. Clarke wasn't, because Daenerys on the show wasn't a teenager.
And so on and so on.
When there is a show or movie based on a book, people have often times previously read the book or books..
Based on reading a book, some people (many or most?) create a mental image of what the character looks like based on the author's description of the characters.
The show Game of Thrones casting team nailed almost every one of the mental images created by book readers IMO.
With the few exceptions I noted (for me).
that was it.
whatever you posted, thank you for that, no clue what purpose it served other than to be a dick for some reason. I guess. Really not sure what you were going for with that post.
But yes, she's quite wooden and not very rangy. She has a great personality away from the show, though.
That's not a criticism of Headey's abilty as an actress, but she is not in the same league in terms of looks as the other two women I mentioned.
But yes, she's quite wooden and not very rangy. She has a great personality away from the show, though.
Plus she looks good naked, which is the major requirement for the role of Dany.
+1. She looked much hotter in 300. Not sure she's a top 10, but she's pretty hot
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Lena Headey is for sure in the top-10. I think you're just too used to seeing her with her short hair "Joan of Arc" haircut to remember that she was a hottie with long hair. She's gorgeous with her natural black hair.
+1. She looked much hotter in 300. Not sure she's a top 10, but she's pretty hot
The problem is that Cersei is a hot blonde in the books. And as a blonde Headey is just pretty, but not gorgeous.
I'm ok with Tyrion not having his nose chopped off, Brienne not being a beast, the Targs not having purple eyes, etc.; would probably be too distracting. I actually get distracted by Viserys' and Rhaegar's silver hair. It looks fine on Dany but weird on them.
Her teeth, i can't unsee them. Not really a fan of hers. Whores like Ros are hotter.
Probably just because they are so formidable in battle, until they get spooked and run amok.
While Headey may not rise high enough on the hot scale for some of you guys, I think she's played the bad "guy" role really well - especially last season, the way she mocked/lectured Jamie. The short hair wig has really been a poor choice though
I'd agree Emilia Clarke is on the weaker end of a very strong cast from an acting perspective, but she's handled it reasonably well. And she's got the cute-hot thing down cold.
As silly as the dragon riding date was, she was giving Jon some super hot looks during that sequence
It's also crazy that she's only a year older than Maisie Williams
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Lena Headey is for sure in the top-10. I think you're just too used to seeing her with her short hair "Joan of Arc" haircut to remember that she was a hottie with long hair. She's gorgeous with her natural black hair.
Her teeth, i can't unsee them. Not really a fan of hers. Whores like Ros are hotter.
Shay was a real hottie. That Miranda chick that was jealous of Sansa when she was with Ramsey was cute too.
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- North loses battle of Winterfell
- they retreat south to prepare for final battle
- Jon meets Melisandre and she convinces him of her prophecies
- Jon puts his sword through Dany to forge Lightbringer
That would be bonkers. Doubt that's what it is for many reasons, but that would be nuts.
- North loses battle of Winterfell
- they retreat south to prepare for final battle
- Jon meets Melisandre and she convinces him of her prophecies
- Jon puts his sword through Dany to forge Lightbringer
That would be bonkers. Doubt that's what it is for many reasons, but that would be nuts.
I think Sansa aligning with Sersei to take down Jon and Dany would be huge.
When there is a show or movie based on a book, people have often times previously read the book or books..
Based on reading a book, some people (many or most?) create a mental image of what the character looks like based on the author's description of the characters.
The show Game of Thrones casting team nailed almost every one of the mental images created by book readers IMO.
With the few exceptions I noted (for me).
that was it.
whatever you posted, thank you for that, no clue what purpose it served other than to be a dick for some reason. I guess. Really not sure what you were going for with that post.
It was a direct response to the point that Headey doesn't match the book description of Cersei. I have no idea why you would get so hypersensitive over that. Really bizarre.
Didn't Robert say to Ned in Season One that he had a son and Ned has a daughter so their houses could/should be one? They're clearly planting the seeds for a Gendry/Arya union.
doesn't mean it won't happen, but after the shit Cersei did to Sansa, what would be her motivation to ally with her against what she believes is her brother, but is actually her first cousin.
That type of scheming can't happen in 5 remaining episodes IMO.
doesn't mean it won't happen, but after the shit Cersei did to Sansa, what would be her motivation to ally with her against what she believes is her brother, but is actually her first cousin.
That type of scheming can't happen in 5 remaining episodes IMO.
I agree. I can totally see Sansa being the one who pulls some big betrayal, but not to align with Cersei. Cersei still half believes that Sansa is responsible for Joffrey's death, and Sansa is smart enough to know that Cersei will never forgive her and is not to be trusted.
Cahoots with Littlefinger!!!!!
I always felt like Sansa was an afterthought character, one who serves a purpose but is not "in the game" for the iron throne, but they really want you to put her in the game (in your mind at least).
and no one has endured as much as her. She's a survivor.
Let's not forget she was married to Joffrey, Tyrion, and Ramsey. she had her pet slaughtered, watched her father beheaded, learned from her abusive husband that her mother and brother were murdered in a cold blooded betrayal, her two younger brothers were burned alive (so she thought) - and then when she learned they were not burned alive she was forced to watch one murdered, and her sister was unaccounted for. and probably more.
I always felt like Sansa was an afterthought character, one who serves a purpose but is not "in the game" for the iron throne, but they really want you to put her in the game (in your mind at least).
and no one has endured as much as her. She's a survivor.
Let's not forget she was married to Joffrey, Tyrion, and Ramsey. she had her pet slaughtered, watched her father beheaded, learned from her abusive husband that her mother and brother were murdered in a cold blooded betrayal, her two younger brothers were burned alive (so she thought) - and then when she learned they were not burned alive she was forced to watch one murdered, and her sister was unaccounted for. and probably more.
Sansa is the character that has come the furthest for me in terms of how she's grown personally and how much I've come to respect and appreciate her from the somewhat annoying teenager she was early on. A fantastic story arc. She was the one who truly saved The North
It's also crazy that she's only a year older than Maisie Williams
The two of them have been best friends since season 1. It's just that Sophie Turner got taller and Maisie Williams never did.
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see Sansa betraying Jon and Dany and splintering the north, they beat that over our heads Sunday night.
I always felt like Sansa was an afterthought character, one who serves a purpose but is not "in the game" for the iron throne, but they really want you to put her in the game (in your mind at least).
and no one has endured as much as her. She's a survivor.
Let's not forget she was married to Joffrey, Tyrion, and Ramsey. she had her pet slaughtered, watched her father beheaded, learned from her abusive husband that her mother and brother were murdered in a cold blooded betrayal, her two younger brothers were burned alive (so she thought) - and then when she learned they were not burned alive she was forced to watch one murdered, and her sister was unaccounted for. and probably more.
Sansa is the character that has come the furthest for me in terms of how she's grown personally and how much I've come to respect and appreciate her from the somewhat annoying teenager she was early on. A fantastic story arc. She was the one who truly saved The North
I go back and forth between Sansa and Jaime wrt story arc.
He's gone from hated villain to set up to be hero.
- North loses battle of Winterfell
- they retreat south to prepare for final battle
- Jon meets Melisandre and she convinces him of her prophecies
- Jon puts his sword through Dany to forge Lightbringer
That would be bonkers. Doubt that's what it is for many reasons, but that would be nuts.
What if Dany gets killed by the Night King and brought back as a wight, and Jon has to do what you say to fulfill the prophecy?
I have a suspicion at least one main character will die and come back as part of the army of the dead
Hunger Games with a shaved head.
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Hunger Games with a shaved head.
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Hunger Games with a shaved head.
As Anne Boleyn in the Tudors
It's funny because the way she acts and even the way she looks screams villain, but she never became one as Marg Tyrell.
Can’t stand her either. Back of the list for me. Give me Ygritte over her.
Hahaha ok I laughed!
so it's not a problem with Headley per se, who is fantastic in the role, it's the only casting miss, and it's really nitpicking.
But...she plays the role so perfectly I can get past it, but that was almost literally the only casting decision I question in a story with tons of characters that the author went in to tremendous detail describing.
the other minor casting issue for me was Brienne. She was supposed to be grotesquely hideous. Like an animal. She's definitely tall and I guess manly, but she's not as hideous as I imagined. Probably hard to just find an ugly actress without makeup/disguise.
The final casting issue I have (besides character switches) and it's more plot than casting is Tyrion at the battle of Blackwater lost his nose with I think an axe. While I didn't expect in the show he'd have no nose, I was hoping he'd be worse scarred or disfigured than he is.
it's remarkable the casting job they did overall, spot on nailed almost everyone.
pj, I know it was only for one scene but the one casting decision that bothered me the most was Rhaegar Targaryen. Rhaegar was supposed to be the most handsome man in Westeros but he just looked like a weird older version of Viserys.
Holy shit I nearly spit my coffee all over the computer screen.
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is in the books she is the most beautiful women in Westeros.
so it's not a problem with Headley per se, who is fantastic in the role, it's the only casting miss, and it's really nitpicking.
But...she plays the role so perfectly I can get past it, but that was almost literally the only casting decision I question in a story with tons of characters that the author went in to tremendous detail describing.
the other minor casting issue for me was Brienne. She was supposed to be grotesquely hideous. Like an animal. She's definitely tall and I guess manly, but she's not as hideous as I imagined. Probably hard to just find an ugly actress without makeup/disguise.
The final casting issue I have (besides character switches) and it's more plot than casting is Tyrion at the battle of Blackwater lost his nose with I think an axe. While I didn't expect in the show he'd have no nose, I was hoping he'd be worse scarred or disfigured than he is.
it's remarkable the casting job they did overall, spot on nailed almost everyone.
pj, I know it was only for one scene but the one casting decision that bothered me the most was Rhaegar Targaryen. Rhaegar was supposed to be the most handsome man in Westeros but he just looked like a weird older version of Viserys.
Yes! This one bothered me too. I'm fascinated by Rhaegar and his motivations and found myself disappointed they'd seemingly just reused the Viserys wig with a plain looking guy. If they have more flashbacks with him I hope they recast
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is in the books she is the most beautiful women in Westeros.
so it's not a problem with Headley per se, who is fantastic in the role, it's the only casting miss, and it's really nitpicking.
But...she plays the role so perfectly I can get past it, but that was almost literally the only casting decision I question in a story with tons of characters that the author went in to tremendous detail describing.
the other minor casting issue for me was Brienne. She was supposed to be grotesquely hideous. Like an animal. She's definitely tall and I guess manly, but she's not as hideous as I imagined. Probably hard to just find an ugly actress without makeup/disguise.
The final casting issue I have (besides character switches) and it's more plot than casting is Tyrion at the battle of Blackwater lost his nose with I think an axe. While I didn't expect in the show he'd have no nose, I was hoping he'd be worse scarred or disfigured than he is.
it's remarkable the casting job they did overall, spot on nailed almost everyone.
pj, I know it was only for one scene but the one casting decision that bothered me the most was Rhaegar Targaryen. Rhaegar was supposed to be the most handsome man in Westeros but he just looked like a weird older version of Viserys.
Yeah, I noticed this too, definitely agree, but like the others being nitpicking I felt this was too and more so, since it was one scene
Haven't read it, but again, the theory of Azor Ahai if you believe Azhor Ahai = the prince who was to be promised can only be Jon Snow or Daenerys
even if you subscribe to the theory that Jaime and Cersei are Targaryen's too many other boxes are not checked.
Holy crap, I Just realized she's in Captain America too.
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is in the books she is the most beautiful women in Westeros.
so it's not a problem with Headley per se, who is fantastic in the role, it's the only casting miss, and it's really nitpicking.
But...she plays the role so perfectly I can get past it, but that was almost literally the only casting decision I question in a story with tons of characters that the author went in to tremendous detail describing.
the other minor casting issue for me was Brienne. She was supposed to be grotesquely hideous. Like an animal. She's definitely tall and I guess manly, but she's not as hideous as I imagined. Probably hard to just find an ugly actress without makeup/disguise.
The final casting issue I have (besides character switches) and it's more plot than casting is Tyrion at the battle of Blackwater lost his nose with I think an axe. While I didn't expect in the show he'd have no nose, I was hoping he'd be worse scarred or disfigured than he is.
it's remarkable the casting job they did overall, spot on nailed almost everyone.
I've been saying that about Cersei the whole time. Lena Headey is a fantastic actress and she has been perfect in the role, but from a physical standpoint and the description of the character in the books, she just doesn't fit. I'm not going to go so far as to call her unattractive, but she probably doesn't even crack the top 10 most attractive actresses on GoT alone.
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