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NFT: Game of Thrones last season starts tonight (maybe spoilers)

pjcas18 : 4/14/2019 10:21 am
can't wait, but I must admit it is a little bittersweet.

The trailers all look awesome, I've avoided redditt so I don't get any actual leaked plots.

thought I'd start a discussion thread, in case people want to discuss the final season.

Also, on a side note, this is like the old school HBO Sunday night lineups with GOT, Barry, than Veep.
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I thought that sucked  
PatersonPlank : 4/14/2019 10:01 pm : link
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Best scene in the episode.  
Dave in Buffalo : 4/14/2019 10:02 pm : link
Ed: Stand back, he has blue eyes

Tormund: I've always had blue eyes

Good stuff, LOL
RE: I thought that sucked  
j_rud : 4/14/2019 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14386530 PatersonPlank said:
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I thought it was good. Certainly not a feel good episode but to be expected. No way to bring all those parties together smoothly.

Really hope Sansa takes an axe to the face but I'm getting a feeling she might be the last one standing.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/14/2019 10:04 pm : link
Boring until the last 15 minutes. Hopefully because it's just the set-up for the final five episodes. Was hoping more from the "big reunion."
Season 7, 2.0  
moespree : 4/14/2019 10:05 pm : link
The TV guys are overrated as hell as writers. It's too bad Martin dind't finish the story so they can use his material again.

What no "A Whole New World" during the dragon riding sequence?
RE: ...  
PatersonPlank : 4/14/2019 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14386534 Eric from BBI said:
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Boring until the last 15 minutes. Hopefully because it's just the set-up for the final five episodes. Was hoping more from the "big reunion."


I hope it was just "character setting" or whatever. It was boring, the only decent scene was fat Tarley telling Jon he's the King
On the internet  
KDubbs : 4/14/2019 10:08 pm : link
Everything sucks now
RE: ...  
eli4life : 4/14/2019 10:10 pm : link
In comment 14386534 Eric from BBI said:
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Boring until the last 15 minutes. Hopefully because it's just the set-up for the final five episodes. Was hoping more from the "big reunion."


This episode was always going to be about reunions most of the characters haven’t seen each other in years. Lady Mormont is quickly becoming one of my favorite characters
So it's clear they're planting the seeds for a Sansa/Dany showdown  
Anakim : 4/14/2019 10:13 pm : link
But yeah, kind of a lackluster episode. Nothing really of any significance happened.
I figured it would be as it was  
UConn4523 : 4/14/2019 10:15 pm : link
my biggest beef was yet another “you were supposed to be our king” speech in the mess hall. It’s like the 3rd time now, only this time they all know they will die unless the realm bands as one. Seemed like such a waste of 5-10 minutes. Jon finally being told by Tarly is all that was needed.
It’s a set up episode  
RobCarpenter : 4/14/2019 10:15 pm : link
Every season starts with one.

Saw an interview with the weapons maker for the show before the episode. He was asked what his favorite weapon to make was, and he said it was for this season, but he couldn’t say what it was.

Which tells me we will see Lightbringer.
eli4life  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/14/2019 10:16 pm : link
I love reunions, but this one was weird.

BTW, shouldn't Danerys have been more upset about her dragon being undead now?!!? Oh well!!!
About what I expected - reunions galore.  
bceagle05 : 4/14/2019 10:17 pm : link
I thought it finished strong with Sam/Jon, the Umber kid and the Jamie/Bran staredown. Sam absolutely torched Dany (pun intended) with his line to Jon: "You gave up your crown for your people - would she do the same?"
I was hoping we’d see Lady Mormont  
RobCarpenter : 4/14/2019 10:17 pm : link
Get into it with Jorah.
eli4life  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/14/2019 10:17 pm : link
and by weird, I mean strangely wanting. I expected more, "holy shit! You're alive!"
RE: It’s a set up episode  
eli4life : 4/14/2019 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14386548 RobCarpenter said:
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Every season starts with one.

Saw an interview with the weapons maker for the show before the episode. He was asked what his favorite weapon to make was, and he said it was for this season, but he couldn’t say what it was.

Which tells me we will see Lightbringer.


My guess is more prep and your an asshole type stuff for the first 1/2 hour to 3/4 through then it takes off running set up the big battle in episode 3
RE: eli4life  
eli4life : 4/14/2019 10:22 pm : link
In comment 14386557 Eric from BBI said:
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and by weird, I mean strangely wanting. I expected more, "holy shit! You're alive!"


Yeah I get that personally I would of liked to of seen John/Dany find out about bran and Arya and what they became I think that could of been a little funny
The only thing awful  
KDubbs : 4/14/2019 10:23 pm : link
Was the cheesy ass dragon riding scene. The rest was perfect setup for the rest of the season. Get all the reunions we need out of the way in 1 episode
RE: I was hoping we’d see Lady Mormont  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/14/2019 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14386556 RobCarpenter said:
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Get into it with Jorah.



Great point. That's what I'm kind of getting at... this was one HUGE reunion and I wanted to see more reaction from the characters seeing one another... not Danerys and John Snow tooling around on dragons.
RE: The only thing awful  
Anakim : 4/14/2019 10:25 pm : link
In comment 14386566 KDubbs said:
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Was the cheesy ass dragon riding scene. The rest was perfect setup for the rest of the season. Get all the reunions we need out of the way in 1 episode


Yeah, that was very camp and cheesy. Very un-GoTlike.
Ohh yeah  
UConn4523 : 4/14/2019 10:25 pm : link
The dragon riding, haha
With only 6 episodes  
montanagiant : 4/14/2019 10:26 pm : link
This felt like a wasted one
RE: RE: I was hoping we’d see Lady Mormont  
KDubbs : 4/14/2019 10:26 pm : link
In comment 14386568 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14386556 RobCarpenter said:


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Get into it with Jorah.




Great point. That's what I'm kind of getting at... this was one HUGE reunion and I wanted to see more reaction from the characters seeing one another... not Danerys and John Snow tooling around on dragons.


The only thing is, they are all racing towards their deaths(most likely) so why waste so much emotion when you might have a day or 2 left?
RE: The only thing awful  
PatersonPlank : 4/14/2019 10:26 pm : link
In comment 14386566 KDubbs said:
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Was the cheesy ass dragon riding scene. The rest was perfect setup for the rest of the season. Get all the reunions we need out of the way in 1 episode


Agree. It felt like a The Bachlorette show. I was waiting for a Rose ceremony at the end
what  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/14/2019 10:27 pm : link
caught my attention was the body parts being organized in a pattern, just like opening scene in the very first episode. There is some deeper meaning there.
RE: The only thing awful  
RobCarpenter : 4/14/2019 10:29 pm : link
In comment 14386566 KDubbs said:
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Was the cheesy ass dragon riding scene. The rest was perfect setup for the rest of the season. Get all the reunions we need out of the way in 1 episode


Yeah, if the point is to show he’s a Targaryen that scene could have been one minute. Unless the dragons are killing something it’s a waste of CGI.
KDubbs  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/14/2019 10:31 pm : link
I hear ya, but like I said, I enjoy the reunion stuff. I wanted to see more interaction between those who had not seen each other in years... like Ayra and the Hound (too brief), Sansa and Tyrion (that felt a bit anti-climatic to me), Sam and Jorah, etc.

I would have also liked to have had more interaction with Sansa and Daenyris.
RE: The only thing awful  
Eli Wilson : 4/14/2019 10:31 pm : link
In comment 14386566 KDubbs said:
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Was the cheesy ass dragon riding scene. The rest was perfect setup for the rest of the season. Get all the reunions we need out of the way in 1 episode


I assume this was only so that when we see Jon riding a dragon into battle we aren't asking how the hell he knew how to do that, when he's never done it before.
RE: It’s a set up episode  
j_rud : 4/14/2019 10:32 pm : link
In comment 14386548 RobCarpenter said:
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Every season starts with one.

Saw an interview with the weapons maker for the show before the episode. He was asked what his favorite weapon to make was, and he said it was for this season, but he couldn’t say what it was.

Which tells me we will see Lightbringer.


Could be wrong but I dont think theyre going to spend much time with the prophecy. Im guessing its whatever Arya asked Gendry to make.
I thought it was foolish  
bceagle05 : 4/14/2019 10:33 pm : link
to have Jon riding the dragon BEFORE he found out his heritage. Doesn't make sense for just anyone to hop aboard - I figured he would ride the dragon to prove to himself and others that he is in fact a Targ.
RE: KDubbs  
KDubbs : 4/14/2019 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14386583 Eric from BBI said:
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I hear ya, but like I said, I enjoy the reunion stuff. I wanted to see more interaction between those who had not seen each other in years... like Ayra and the Hound (too brief), Sansa and Tyrion (that felt a bit anti-climatic to me), Sam and Jorah, etc.

I would have also liked to have had more interaction with Sansa and Daenyris.


Jon/arya was such a letdown. This was the reunion I waited forever for and it was meh. I was more emotional during the sansa/jon reunion. Didnt help that youtube showed a 5 second ad this morning of the beginning of the scene and I knew that was it after arya let him go in the 1st scene
RE: About what I expected - reunions galore.  
eli4life : 4/14/2019 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14386553 bceagle05 said:
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I thought it finished strong with Sam/Jon, the Umber kid and the Jamie/Bran staredown. Sam absolutely torched Dany (pun intended) with his line to Jon: "You gave up your crown for your people - would she do the same?"


Missed this post you could tell it bothered her maybe she could of got a little more emotional but at that time maybe as queen she shouldn’t in front of those she just met.

Besides the cheesy cgi dragon ride the part I think should of had more was it shouldn’t of been so easy to just walk in and rescue Yara
Not crazy about building up a romance angle with Arya and Gendry  
Anakim : 4/14/2019 10:36 pm : link
Arya has given no inclination whatsoever that she wants or desires love. We can do without the whole puppy love shit.
RE: RE: The only thing awful  
smshmth8690 : 4/14/2019 10:36 pm : link
In comment 14386584 Eli Wilson said:
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In comment 14386566 KDubbs said:


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Was the cheesy ass dragon riding scene. The rest was perfect setup for the rest of the season. Get all the reunions we need out of the way in 1 episode



I assume this was only so that when we see Jon riding a dragon into battle we aren't asking how the hell he knew how to do that, when he's never done it before.


Great point. I was too bust thinking the scene was too long to think of it in that context.
RE: I thought it was foolish  
Bill L : 4/14/2019 10:37 pm : link
In comment 14386588 bceagle05 said:
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to have Jon riding the dragon BEFORE he found out his heritage. Doesn't make sense for just anyone to hop aboard - I figured he would ride the dragon to prove to himself and others that he is in fact a Targ.

Yeah, I was just going to ask how dany was so easy for him to get close and ride one. Does she think it’s her hold on the dragons? I’m surprised she doesn’t question it a little.
They setup  
KDubbs : 4/14/2019 10:43 pm : link
Dany/Jon not lasting or Dany doing what the prophecy said...sacrificing herself. Sam said would she give up her crown for you and the varys/sir davos/tyrion scene talked about her earning their trust.
BTW, why the change to the intro?  
Anakim : 4/14/2019 10:46 pm : link
Seems so much more intricate than the past
BTW  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/14/2019 10:47 pm : link
do any of you guys get in trouble with the wife/girlfriend when certain actresses appear on screen?

My wife always gives me shit when I pay more attention when Melisandre disrobes (sigh, she was absent from tonight's episode).
RE: BTW, why the change to the intro?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/14/2019 10:48 pm : link
In comment 14386603 Anakim said:
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Seems so much more intricate than the past


I think because the range of territory has narrowed to Winterfell and King's Landing.
RE: BTW  
PatersonPlank : 4/14/2019 10:53 pm : link
In comment 14386606 Eric from BBI said:
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do any of you guys get in trouble with the wife/girlfriend when certain actresses appear on screen?

My wife always gives me shit when I pay more attention when Melisandre disrobes (sigh, she was absent from tonight's episode).


Dany for me. She looks so much better in the silver hair and costume. In real like I don't care for her looks much
RE: RE: BTW, why the change to the intro?  
Anakim : 4/14/2019 10:56 pm : link
In comment 14386607 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14386603 Anakim said:


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Seems so much more intricate than the past



I think because the range of territory has narrowed to Winterfell and King's Landing.


True. They had to elongate it. But even the graphics seem better and clearer
RE: RE: BTW  
Anakim : 4/14/2019 10:56 pm : link
In comment 14386614 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 14386606 Eric from BBI said:


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do any of you guys get in trouble with the wife/girlfriend when certain actresses appear on screen?

My wife always gives me shit when I pay more attention when Melisandre disrobes (sigh, she was absent from tonight's episode).



Dany for me. She looks so much better in the silver hair and costume. In real like I don't care for her looks much



Missandei > Dany.


And that German chick who played Shay. Hellz yeah.
RE: BTW  
KDubbs : 4/14/2019 10:58 pm : link
In comment 14386606 Eric from BBI said:
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do any of you guys get in trouble with the wife/girlfriend when certain actresses appear on screen?

My wife always gives me shit when I pay more attention when Melisandre disrobes (sigh, she was absent from tonight's episode).


Im with you on Melisandre followed by missandei
Anak  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/14/2019 11:00 pm : link
Yes, the graphics were far more detailed.
When the show passed the books,  
Mr. Bungle : 4/14/2019 11:02 pm : link
the narrative was taken over by people whose strenth is not storytelling. And you can tell. The storyline just isn't nearly as captivating as it was in the first three or four seasons.

We already know that the dragons are cool with Jon. We didn't need to see it again. They really shouldn't be wasting precious time at this point.

And I agree with people who are critical about the reunions and Dany finding out one of her dragons is with the army of the dead now. The reactions were all low on authentic emotion.

I don't understand why we still need "setup episodes" with only 6 episodes left and the army of the dead already through the Wall.

I didn't hate the episode, but I was hoping for a great one. And it wasn't.
Solid setup episode to start the season  
soz915 : 4/14/2019 11:02 pm : link
I anticipated it being boring so this was a bit better than anticipated from me.

Good article about the new opening credits https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adambvary/game-of-thrones-opening-credits-new
If that was the initial episode in season 1 - I wouldn't watch again  
PatersonPlank : 4/14/2019 11:05 pm : link
I thought it was terrible
RE: When the show passed the books,  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/14/2019 11:05 pm : link
In comment 14386628 Mr. Bungle said:
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the narrative was taken over by people whose strenth is not storytelling. And you can tell. The storyline just isn't nearly as captivating as it was in the first three or four seasons.

We already know that the dragons are cool with Jon. We didn't need to see it again. They really shouldn't be wasting precious time at this point.

And I agree with people who are critical about the reunions and Dany finding out one of her dragons is with the army of the dead now. The reactions were all low on authentic emotion.

I don't understand why we still need "setup episodes" with only 6 episodes left and the army of the dead already through the Wall.

I didn't hate the episode, but I was hoping for a great one. And it wasn't.


Well said.
RE: When the show passed the books,  
mfsd : 4/14/2019 11:10 pm : link
In comment 14386628 Mr. Bungle said:
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the narrative was taken over by people whose strenth is not storytelling. And you can tell. The storyline just isn't nearly as captivating as it was in the first three or four seasons.

We already know that the dragons are cool with Jon. We didn't need to see it again. They really shouldn't be wasting precious time at this point.

And I agree with people who are critical about the reunions and Dany finding out one of her dragons is with the army of the dead now. The reactions were all low on authentic emotion.

I don't understand why we still need "setup episodes" with only 6 episodes left and the army of the dead already through the Wall.

I didn't hate the episode, but I was hoping for a great one. And it wasn't.


Good summary all around

I agree with the poster above, the brief encounter between Tormund and Edd was great, probably the most authentic interaction of the episode.

I gave up expecting too much beginning with last season, so I’m just enjoying the ride. It’s really hard for show runners to write big shows like this to a satisfying conclusion - very few have achieved it. Breaking Bad is probably the best of recent memory.

Even moreso considering they started with about 4 seasons of great source material and then were left to write it to the finish with out GRRM’s outline to guide them
Of course the dragons are cool with Jon Snow  
Anakim : 4/14/2019 11:50 pm : link
He's a Targaryen...
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