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What draft picks at 6 will shut down BBI?

dep026 : 4/15/2019 8:25 am
Rashan Gary - this is obvious
Q. Williams - mass joy due to him falling?
Daniel Jones - at 6? and at 17?
Greedy Williams - overreach?
Trade up/down?

The obvious answer is Gary (part of me wants to see this for the pure joy of getting a great player and pissing off BBI!)
Jones would be worse  
section125 : 4/15/2019 8:28 am : link
than Gary, but Greedy would be right there.
I don't think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/15/2019 8:29 am : link
any pick should shut down BBI, but dep, I'll put a friendly wager out there that Gary become the next William Joseph before he becomes an impact player.

Since you don't drink, buy me a case of craft beer. I'll get you a case of Yoohoo.....
RE: I don't think..  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 8:33 am : link
In comment 14386760 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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any pick should shut down BBI, but dep, I'll put a friendly wager out there that Gary become the next William Joseph before he becomes an impact player.

Since you don't drink, buy me a case of craft beer. I'll get you a case of Yoohoo.....


Fruit Punch Gatorade.
I only have 2 Gary and Jines  
superspynyg : 4/15/2019 8:34 am : link
I just canít get over Garyís lack of production in college. He should have feasted vs lower level talent.

Jones has bust all over him. There are better qbs available either via this draft, next draft or trade (Rosen for #37).
None  
Mike from Ohio : 4/15/2019 8:35 am : link
Probably plenty of people will be disappointed with whoever is picked. There are many who don't want a guy who Sy has listed as a borderline first round talent at #6 overall. That's ok.

This obsession you have with taking joy in other people's unhappiness is just flat out weird.
There are probably only two  
section125 : 4/15/2019 8:36 am : link
picks that would satisfy BBI, Q Will or Bosa. Not even sure Josh Allen gets a majority approval.

It will be a lose / lose all around.
A poor start in the first 5 minutes of game 1,  
Big Blue '56 : 4/15/2019 8:37 am : link
shuts down BBI.
RE: None  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 8:38 am : link
In comment 14386766 Mike from Ohio said:
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Probably plenty of people will be disappointed with whoever is picked. There are many who don't want a guy who Sy has listed as a borderline first round talent at #6 overall. That's ok.

This obsession you have with taking joy in other people's unhappiness is just flat out weird.


I am a huge Gary fan. Getting him and seeing him do great and proving people wrong is a good thing, no?
None of us know if Gary is a fraud or a stud, for sure.  
George from PA : 4/15/2019 8:38 am : link
My knee jerk reaction if Jones is selected at 6....is that the Giants blinked and overreached.....but who knows????

If Jones turns out to be an Eli for the Giants...next 18 years...wins 2 Super Bowls....we would call it one of the best picks ever
RE: I don't think..  
Big Blue '56 : 4/15/2019 8:39 am : link
In comment 14386760 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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any pick should shut down BBI, but dep, I'll put a friendly wager out there that Gary become the next William Joseph before he becomes an impact player.

Since you don't drink, buy me a case of craft beer. I'll get you a case of Yoohoo.....


Funny you mention Joseph. IIRC, many (most?) on here felt he was a steal at 25..
Whoever  
Thinblueline : 4/15/2019 8:41 am : link
Is the highest on thier board at 6 despite position...
RE: I don't think..  
barens : 4/15/2019 8:43 am : link
In comment 14386760 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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any pick should shut down BBI, but dep, I'll put a friendly wager out there that Gary become the next William Joseph before he becomes an impact player.

Since you don't drink, buy me a case of craft beer. I'll get you a case of Yoohoo.....


I'd take that bet, with the exception of Yoohoo. That seems like money in the bank.
RE: RE: I don't think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/15/2019 8:43 am : link
In comment 14386773 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 14386760 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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any pick should shut down BBI, but dep, I'll put a friendly wager out there that Gary become the next William Joseph before he becomes an impact player.

Since you don't drink, buy me a case of craft beer. I'll get you a case of Yoohoo.....



Funny you mention Joseph. IIRC, many (most?) on here felt he was a steal at 25..


I really can't remember, but I might have been one of them. I know I was very happen with the value for Marvin Austin too.

Just goes to show that busts happen to a lot of players, regardless of the circumstances and their natural talent.
RE: RE: I don't think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/15/2019 8:44 am : link
In comment 14386783 barens said:
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In comment 14386760 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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any pick should shut down BBI, but dep, I'll put a friendly wager out there that Gary become the next William Joseph before he becomes an impact player.

Since you don't drink, buy me a case of craft beer. I'll get you a case of Yoohoo.....



I'd take that bet, with the exception of Yoohoo. That seems like money in the bank.


What the fuck do you guys have against Yoohoo?

Chocolate goodness with a hint of carbonation!! It can't get any better than that.
RE: RE: RE: I don't think..  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 8:47 am : link
In comment 14386788 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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What the fuck do you guys have against Yoohoo?

Chocolate goodness with a hint of carbonation!! It can't get any better than that.


Yoo-hoo is the subway of chocolate milk. Bannable in my house. We have a farm 10 minutes from my house that makes the best chocolate milk you will ever taste.
Daniel Jones at #6  
Matt G : 4/15/2019 8:48 am : link
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When..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/15/2019 8:49 am : link
you find cows that can carbonate milk, call me:)
Chocolate goodness? Have you seen the ingredients?  
barens : 4/15/2019 8:55 am : link
There's barely any chocolate in that fucking beverage. Yuck.
I hate to do this but I must disagree with FMIC  
Face Pepler : 4/15/2019 9:07 am : link
Yoo Hoo is not carbonated. Never has been. If yours is fizzy, it might be fermenting.
Simple Answer...  
Jim Bur(n)t : 4/15/2019 9:11 am : link
Any pick the GIANTS make :)
Giants pick QB with Q. Williams still available  
Steve in ATL : 4/15/2019 9:12 am : link
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RE: I hate to do this but I must disagree with FMIC  
Big Blue '56 : 4/15/2019 9:19 am : link
In comment 14386819 Face Pepler said:
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Yoo Hoo is not carbonated. Never has been. If yours is fizzy, it might be fermenting.


😂
RE: A poor start in the first 5 minutes of game 1,  
Giantophile : 4/15/2019 9:21 am : link
In comment 14386768 Big Blue '56 said:
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shuts down BBI.


first *preseason game.
RE: Giants pick QB with Q. Williams still available  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/15/2019 9:22 am : link
In comment 14386827 Steve in ATL said:
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That wins the prize. I might be apoplectic if that happens.
Whoever they pick  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/15/2019 9:27 am : link
Half of BBI will whine and bitch and pretend to be far more knowledgable than they actually are.
RE: RE: A poor start in the first 5 minutes of game 1,  
Big Blue '56 : 4/15/2019 9:37 am : link
In comment 14386842 Giantophile said:
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In comment 14386768 Big Blue '56 said:


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shuts down BBI.



first *preseason game.


Yup. My bad
Fatman's Yoohoo is carbinated?  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/15/2019 9:43 am : link
That may explain a lot
that goes for carbonated too  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/15/2019 9:45 am : link
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Jones ....  
Beer Man : 4/15/2019 9:50 am : link
....
Maybe..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/15/2019 9:59 am : link
I like it because of the fermentation!!

In all honesty, I haven't drunk the shit since I was a kid.
RE: Maybe..  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 10:08 am : link
In comment 14386891 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I like it because of the fermentation!!

In all honesty, I haven't drunk the shit since I was a kid.


Yeah no one believes you.
Gary  
Thegratefulhead : 4/15/2019 10:18 am : link
There's enough high-end talent that we don't have to gamble with a player wear production doesn't match the measurables. There will be safer players to pick that have both so I wouldn't be happy with him and six. He is not a remote thrower though. I'm more scared of Daniel Jones at 6. I am picking a QB at 6 an nfl-caliber arm is a must-have. I know not so strong-arm quarterbacks have done okay in the NFL I just don't think you draft one in the top six.
Where  
Thegratefulhead : 4/15/2019 10:18 am : link
Not wear fuck my phone
RE: Whoever they pick  
Johnny5 : 4/15/2019 10:32 am : link
In comment 14386847 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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Half of BBI will whine and bitch and pretend to be far more knowledgable than they actually are.

LOL this
Speaking of Yoohoo as a kid...  
Johnny5 : 4/15/2019 10:34 am : link
... I saw an ad for Bosco the other day. I had no idea that shit was still around... lol

We used to drink that stuff A lot
I think if the Giants somehow got Murray..  
Sean : 4/15/2019 10:37 am : link
it would blow the roof off of BBI.
I admit  
GiantEgo : 4/15/2019 10:50 am : link
I would enjoy the maximum pain. Drafting Gary with Williams still on the board...or Kyler Murray slips to 6 and the Giants pass...
I'm down on Gary...  
bw in dc : 4/15/2019 11:00 am : link
but I can certainly see a case why a scout/GM sees big time potential

I don't see any #6 selection potential with Jones or Haskins. The selection of either should shut down BBI. Forever.
RE: Whoever they pick  
Percy : 4/15/2019 11:17 am : link
In comment 14386847 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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Half of BBI will whine and bitch and pretend to be far more knowledgable than they actually are.

Half? You're an optimist. I'd guess 80%.
RE: I admit  
Giantz_comeback : 4/15/2019 11:40 am : link
In comment 14386977 GiantEgo said:
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I would enjoy the maximum pain. Drafting Gary with Williams still on the board...or Kyler Murray slips to 6 and the Giants pass...


I honestly don't think that happens as it seems priority 1 to improve the D is a DL player that can wreak havoc , play multiple techniques and create rush lanes for other blitzers from the back 7-8, while being able to create pressure on his own.

Williams fits that bill perfectly.

Gary in theory is supposed to be that kind of guy too. But he is more highly touted freaky athlete than guy with natural pass rush ability. Williams showed amazing hand technique balance and natural pass rush ability. When he gets pressure on the QB it isn't a function of purely height, weight speed and just outclassing an inferior college level blocker who won't be playing on Sundays or just didn't get out of his stance quick enough.

What Williams already can do translates very strongly to the NFL level. What Gary does from a pass rushing standpoint will NOT. And there isn't enough natural pass rush in him to be fostered and built up into something befitting the 6th overall pick.

Clowney was the same darn thing. He's developed into a pretty darn good run defender but boy does he leave you wanting for more from a pass rush department. Some guys despite having freakish HWS just don't have that gift of being able to get home on the pass rush.


Yet Giants Im betting still think they can develop Gary. Again, just because a guy has great talent doesn't automatically mean you can develop something like pass rush ability. There has got to be some flash of that talent to see its there. Its just not there! When he wins its because of the HWS more often than the art of hand fighting and nuance. They thought the same with Flowers and Apple. You need to see a foundation that translates to the NFL. Its not there with Rashan.
The Ones That Would Bother Me  
BlueVinnie : 4/15/2019 12:08 pm : link
Gary at 6
Greedy Williams at 6
Trading up from 6 to draft Haskins

Drafting Haskins at 6 would not spur me to celebrate with a fresh bottle of Yoohoo but it wouldn't be as horrible as actually trading up for him. I hope we pass on him completely.

Anyone remember those goofy old Yoohoo commercials starring Yogi Berra?














RE: The Ones That Would Bother Me  
Giantz_comeback : 4/15/2019 12:20 pm : link
In comment 14387100 BlueVinnie said:
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Gary at 6
Greedy Williams at 6
Trading up from 6 to draft Haskins

Drafting Haskins at 6 would not spur me to celebrate with a fresh bottle of Yoohoo but it wouldn't be as horrible as actually trading up for him. I hope we pass on him completely.

Anyone remember those goofy old Yoohoo commercials starring Yogi Berra?















I could even tolerate Greedy at 6 more (not of one of the big 3 defenders Q, Bosa or Allen fell though) just because there is a skill set of mirroring receivers effortlessly that consistently shows up on tape. That kind of skill set translates very well and is the most important skill set for a defense that wants to blitz alot.
I wonder how BBI will react if D Bush is the pick at #6  
RobCarpenter : 4/15/2019 12:51 pm : link
I can see lots of howling on BBI about how DG reached.
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