in effect you are trading down from 15 to 33 and getting Josh Rosen as compensation. After 2 rounds of the draft the Giants would have whoever they take at 6, 33, 37 and Josh Rosen. That's a pretty good outcome.
I would give a 4th for Rosen and maybe a conditional 2022 2nd
dependent upon number of starts (or maybe percentage). I would be steadfastly committed to trading up high into the first round in 2020 to take one of the top 3 QB's. Rosen could then fight it out with Tanney for the backup spot. Or, if he can out compete , say, Fromm, then (Fromm (for example) would get lots of first team reps for when Rosen retired. Anything else, would be a dealbreaker for me.
If they like him (BIG IF), I'd offer something like Cleveland's 3rd rounder this year plus a max of a 3rd rounder next year (which one would think would be recouped by virtue of a compensatory pick for Collins):
Then the '19 draft could look like this:
1 ER Josh Allen (sneaking suspicion he slides a bit)
1a LB Devin Bush
2 DE Zach Allen
3 QB Josh Rosen
4 OL Michael Dieter
4a CB Iman Marshall
5 CB Corey Ballentine
5a OL Alex Bars
5b WR Lil Jordan Humphey
6 RB LJ Scott
7 P Tyler Newsome
probably do that trade, but there is no way the Giants would. As has been discussed, the Giants are interested in Rosen, but will likely be outbid by someone else. That's just the way it goes sometimes. We need to focus on getting a QB elsewhere. My hope is that's next year.
The Giants are not in love with Rosen. Who knows, maybe a smoke screen, maybe not. The next few weeks should be very interesting, and we may even get to see a few BBI heads explode like year when the team didn't grab Darnold.
I donít think Rosen is worth a 17 pick at this point in time
I like the idea of the Giants giving another pick this year and one next year. I really like getting a pick back but maybe a third round pick. Maybe swap third round picks.
Cardinals donít need more picks and the Giants extra picks are too low to have much value.
All that said, I would have been happy to get Rosen last year st 17 and he didnít do anything to devalue himself except play down to the level of the rest of the team.
accept a conditional pick based on starts with Eli still on the Giants. We all know Eli is going to be the starter unless they go down the toilet again or he gets injured. Why would the Cards agree to a conditional pick when they know Rosen going to be the starter in his first year on the team?
Honestly, I can't wait for this to be over. I'd almost rather that bum get traded to the Giants so BBI can get the fuck over it already. Who cares if we suck another 3 years straight at this point? At least I'll have the schadenfreude.
Hell, he was arguably the top QB in last years draft (at least he was considered by some analysts to be the top QB last year). I'd absolutely give the #37 pick and something else. I may even give the #17, if we get around that pick and it looks like we'll take a QB (like Jones) then why not? We're getting a QB with that pick anyway, and he's better than anyone we will get.
RE: Before I would think about trading for Rosen I would have to know
Compared to the other drafted QB's, Mayfield aside, he was pretty much the same. This is impressive considering his situation was definitely the worst, AZ was the worst team in football and the OL was horrible.
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