I'm having more trouble understanding His status as a prospect. I'm really looking forward to Sy's rankings to shed some more light on this situation.
Rumors that he's falling out of 1st round (seems like BS) yet every draft publication I read has him as, at worst, the 2nd rated QB prospect after Murray, and in some cases, guys like Rob Rang and Bucky Brooks have him as the #1 rated QB prospect.
None of the insiders (jt, JonC, etc) have mentioned any level of interest in Haskins yet Shurmur and the whole NYG contingent was front and center at his pro day.
I'm starting to wonder if the reason why we haven't heard anything about him is deeper than lack of interest.
Leaking to asshats would be part of it.
Its lying season....anything is possible.
On the other side, he's less mobile than Eli. His 40 time is probably along the lines of a qb you may have heard of named Tom Brady.
On the other side, he's less mobile than Eli. His 40 time is probably along the lines of a qb you may have heard of named Tom Brady.
He's not less mobile then Eli.
Haskins is clearly a first round QB and will go top 15 for sure.
Haskins is clearly a first round QB and will go top 15 for sure.
Lot of chat Haskins is falling to #4 in the pecking order. I highly doubt he goes top 15 if true.
Personally, I see some issues with his game that I believe are leading to the negative turn his stock is taking as we get closer. Of course, it only takes one team to not to be part of that negative turn and boom, he's a top 10/top 5 pick.
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I suggest you un-follow whatever BS person posted that rumor.
Haskins is clearly a first round QB and will go top 15 for sure.
Lot of chat Haskins is falling to #4 in the pecking order. I highly doubt he goes top 15 if true.
Can you link just ONE piece of "chatter" that says Hankins is dropping to #4?
It’s been pretty quiet from them. A lot of what’s been out there has been speculation or guess work.
I saw you say the other day you haven't heard anything about Ed Oliver. So what happens if Bosa, Allen, Quinnen & White go off the board in the top 5? Where do they go from there?
Edge to Haskins:
Seems to have more favorable opinions in terms of mental part of the game.
Accuracy is elite.
While younger, he seems well coached by Ryan Day.
Edge to Lock:
Pure arm strength (Haskins is above avg, Lock is elite).
Better athlete.
Taller (slightly).
More experience.
I hope the idea of Daniel Jones is dismissed.
Just a good example of guess work.
At 6 it’s easy to say the BPA will be a defensive player. So we can assume its a higher probability that the Giants go defense there.
At 17 It’s a little harder to pinpoint who will be the best available. It’s much easier to say they’ll possibly take a QB at that pick because that’s where the value seems to be lining up. Also, it’ll be much easier for Gettleman to defend the Beckham trade if the pick was spent on a QB. So again, safe bet.
Anyone who has gone into detail about what the giants plans are or thought process is have been out right lying. There’s only been a few whispers on who a few within the organization like. Other than that, it’s sifting through your typical pre-draft B.S.
Why aren't you ok with his heart condition? The NFL didn't shut him down at the combine or bring him back for medical recheck.
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but I'd assume it would be a choice of Oliver, Gary, or perhaps Sweat, if they're ok with his heard condition (I'm not).
Why aren't you ok with his heart condition? The NFL didn't shut him down at the combine or bring him back for medical recheck.
Need more details, that info isn't good enough.
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defense at #6. #17 is less certain, which is where jt's info of them considering QB before OL or another defender is interesting.
Just a good example of guess work.
At 6 it’s easy to say the BPA will be a defensive player. So we can assume its a higher probability that the Giants go defense there.
At 17 It’s a little harder to pinpoint who will be the best available. It’s much easier to say they’ll possibly take a QB at that pick because that’s where the value seems to be lining up. Also, it’ll be much easier for Gettleman to defend the Beckham trade if the pick was spent on a QB. So again, safe bet.
Anyone who has gone into detail about what the giants plans are or thought process is have been out right lying. There’s only been a few whispers on who a few within the organization like. Other than that, it’s sifting through your typical pre-draft B.S.
It lines up with what I've heard to this point, which granted has been lean this year so far.
Yeah Cedric Jones was an awful pick. Reaching for a pass rusher who is legally blind in 1 eye not a good pick, especially when you could have drafted Ray Lewis.
I'm not sure of the correlation of the two. The Giants didn't know of him being blind in one eye. All NFL teams know about this. They've stopped many guys from participating in the combine due to injuries. They let him perform and didn't think it was serious enough to even check it out again.
Better safe than sorry, they can't afford to blow this pick.
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If you're old enough to recall Cedric Jones, you'll understand hesitation over Sweat, or any other significant potential medical flag. A lot of younger posters on this forum aren't old enough to understand age/defect/ailment.
Yeah Cedric Jones was an awful pick. Reaching for a pass rusher who is legally blind in 1 eye not a good pick, especially when you could have drafted Ray Lewis.
Jones was an awful pick, but in fairness, wasn’t Lewis bypassed by 20 teams or more?
I think so too. Been saying it since before the combine. Just a gut feeling he's gonna fall right into our laps.
I still think he's going to the Jets
From what the broad consensus of draft gurus (including BBI's own) is saying, the top defensive players/ERs/DTs are given better grades. So, yes, JonC's and gt's handicapping makes sense. I don't know why those indications should be tarnished by asserting that it is guesswork. Hopefully the two jibe.
And I don't know what Ira spiked his coffee with this AM. LOL
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I suggest you un-follow whatever BS person posted that rumor.
Haskins is clearly a first round QB and will go top 15 for sure.
Lot of chat Haskins is falling to #4 in the pecking order. I highly doubt he goes top 15 if true.
Can you link just ONE piece of "chatter" that says Hankins is dropping to #4?
Here. Don’t call someone a BS person if you can’t care enough to google it.
Lonk - ( New Window )
Assuming that draft publications and draft "experts" are in sync with NFL teams.
Here. Don’t call someone a BS person if you can’t care enough to google it. Lonk - ( New Window )
Thanks for linking the Chatter that says Haskins could go #4.
But, where is the link to "chatter" saying he could drop to the second round? Reading comprehension helps, maybe you need to try reading the thread again.
BTW, Don't tell me what to call people.
He ran a 5:04 forty and did not participate other drills
While he threw well at his pro day, he was sweating profusely and he did not partake of any of the physical tests
It appears that Haskins was not physically prepared for his most important interview
That could raise a red flag
Thank you.
The Bengals may grab him
He ran a 5:04 forty and did not participate other drills
While he threw well at his pro day, he was sweating profusely and he did not partake of any of the physical tests
It appears that Haskins was not physically prepared for his most important interview
That could raise a red flag
Honestly some of this is stupid IMO. He sweated a lot?? big friggin deal.. some people sweat a lot...
This is how stupid the sweating issue is..
DNA affects how much you sweat.
"Why do some people sweat more in certain areas than others? Much has to do with your DNA (or predisposition to sweating). Some people start sweating in a particular area — like their armpits or feet — because those glands react to the brain's signal first. Hyperhidrosis (excessive sweating) is also a hereditary condition influenced by your genes."
". As you build endurance, your body becomes more adept at sweating to keep you cool. Studies show athletes sweat sooner and more heavily than untrained people because they have a higher maximum oxygen uptake — a measure of high cardiovascular fitness and aerobic endurance. "
Thats how stupid the whole " he was sweating a lot argument is to me" I personally know people who are well conditioned endurance athletes and some of them will start sweating profusely VERY quickly into a workout...
comfortable with him . There wasn't a ton of tape on him
But he just looks soft and when he was truly pressured
he looked less than average even with the eye popping
stats his WR's took short passes and made huge gains
he certainly had a lot of talent around him but he
is not all that athletic . DG has been mum and thats
good to me Barkley was a no-brainer despite all the
QB's sitting there it won't break my heart if they
wait another season and go after Fromm or Tua .
Just help the defense and pickup a RT .
I want Josh Allen and at 17 Dexter Lawrence .
Thank you.
I know they've shown interest.. Fans can say what they will about Gettleman so far but one thing I've picked up is that he isn't leaving any stone unturned.