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Shumer wants two immediate starters

since1925 : 4/15/2019 2:36 pm
from the first round picks. Just hear that on ESPN.

For what its worth.
Chuck or Amy?  
giants#1 : 4/15/2019 2:37 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 4/15/2019 2:37 pm : link
Political, please delete.
So quarterback?  
MM_in_NYC : 4/15/2019 2:40 pm : link
:)
I would hope so.  
The_Boss : 4/15/2019 2:59 pm : link
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Makes sense  
Giantz_comeback : 4/15/2019 2:59 pm : link
That's takes QB out of the equation. Which is good if you don't want the spectre of Daniel Jones at 6 or 17 ...or you want this team to be as ready to compete next year as possible.

Some players at 6 and 17 who fit immediate starter status and are fits for our team:

Bosa
Allen, Josh
Quentin Williams
Oliver
White
Bush
Dexter Lawrence
Greedy Williams
Baker
Jaylon Ferguson
Burns
Zach Allen


If Remmers is signed (as suspected) than RT would not be an immediate starter.

Call me greedy....  
jc in c-ville : 4/15/2019 3:03 pm : link
But the first three picks should be starters...

Stretch goals Pat.

The fuck....
that  
Steve in Greenwich : 4/15/2019 3:04 pm : link
sounds like a big time mis-quote;

He was asked does he expect to get 2-3 new starters on defense this year out of the draft and he replied "thats the plan". No he wants two immediate starters with the first round picks.... HUGE difference.
Re: Remmers  
Beezer : 4/15/2019 3:09 pm : link
What's the latest there?
Her Is The Quote  
pa_giant_fan : 4/15/2019 3:11 pm : link
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:04 pm : link : reply

Paul Schwartz
‏Verified account @NYPost_Schwartz
9m9 minutes ago

Shurmur on helping the defense with 2 or 3 starters out of this draft: "That'd the idea.

Seems ESPN is wrong again
He could be talking about #17, and the second round and even  
Blue21 : 4/15/2019 3:13 pm : link
possibly the 3rd round pick. #6 may be the QB sitting on the bench for a year.
When a team picks a player in the 1st RD they should have an  
SterlingArcher : 4/15/2019 3:17 pm : link
expectation the player will come in and start. To do otherwise makes no sense. That is why the Giants drafting a qb in the first at this point in time is would be a huge mistake. They have a chance to draft 3 players who can come in and make a contribution immediately, a qb does not do that.
He chooses the starters,  
Mr. Bungle : 4/15/2019 3:24 pm : link
so...
RE: When a team picks a player in the 1st RD they should have an  
Blue21 : 4/15/2019 3:28 pm : link
In comment 14387462 SterlingArcher said:
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expectation the player will come in and start. To do otherwise makes no sense. That is why the Giants drafting a qb in the first at this point in time is would be a huge mistake. They have a chance to draft 3 players who can come in and make a contribution immediately, a qb does not do that.


Not if they already have a QB that can still do the things they need to do. And why DG mentioned the KC model. If teams didn't draft a QB in the first round because he couldn't make and immediate contribution then no QB's would be taken in the first round. Most first round QB's that start do so because there is no other choice.
I see them trading in for a 3rd 1st Rd pick  
DavidinBMNY : 4/15/2019 3:30 pm : link
Seattle had no picks. I can see that #21 coming our way for #37 a #4 and a #5.
I seriously doubt we go QB at #6  
PatersonPlank : 4/15/2019 3:31 pm : link
Maybe at #17.
Id Like 10 Immediate Starters  
Giants38 : 4/15/2019 3:58 pm : link
Ultimately, well have to see how it plays out. And while I only read the transcript, at no point did I read that Shurmur wants those guys to be from the first round.
Sorry but  
Carl in CT : 4/15/2019 3:58 pm : link
Your not going up to 21 from 37 for a 4,5. Not sure about value charts but Seattle (if they traded) would get more.
The Giants generally expect their first-rounder to be a starter  
81_Great_Dane : 4/15/2019 4:27 pm : link
if not day 1, then by the end of the season. If they have two first-rounders, then they would expect both to start.

That was even true the last time they acquired (though technically didn't draft) a QB in round 1.

It would be out of character for them to use a first-round pick for "the Kansas City model." Though I admit that when it comes to first-round QBs, it's a small sample size.
Smoke and mirrors  
superspynyg : 4/15/2019 4:35 pm : link
To distract from the fact that we are drafting 2 QBs in round 1.

Shurmur loves qbs.
RE: Chuck or Amy?  
GFAN52 : 4/15/2019 4:39 pm : link
In comment 14387409 giants#1 said:
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Good choice. :)
RE: Makes sense  
Jim Bur(n)t : 4/15/2019 4:41 pm : link
In comment 14387432 Giantz_comeback said:
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That's takes QB out of the equation. Which is good if you don't want the spectre of Daniel Jones at 6 or 17 ...or you want this team to be as ready to compete next year as possible.

Some players at 6 and 17 who fit immediate starter status and are fits for our team:

Bosa
Allen, Josh
Quentin Williams
Oliver
White
Bush
Dexter Lawrence
Greedy Williams
Baker
Jaylon Ferguson
Burns
Zach Allen


If Remmers is signed (as suspected) than RT would not be an immediate starter.


Add J. Williams
RE: Her Is The Quote  
Bill L : 4/15/2019 4:45 pm : link
In comment 14387453 pa_giant_fan said:
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:04 pm : link : reply

Paul Schwartz
‏Verified account @NYPost_Schwartz
9m9 minutes ago

Shurmur on helping the defense with 2 or 3 starters out of this draft: "That'd the idea.

Seems ESPN is wrong again

Its probably all media, but I certainly see this a lot with sports media (thanks in part to BBI which points us to actual transcripts) where a snippet of quote gets taken out of next to become a headline implying something more than it is or even something completely different.
Not what he said  
ZogZerg : 4/15/2019 4:46 pm : link
ESPN really sucks the wad
Will  
Thinblueline : 4/15/2019 5:10 pm : link
Grier at 37
RE: RE: Makes sense  
Giantz_comeback : 4/15/2019 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14387596 Jim Bur(n)t said:
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In comment 14387432 Giantz_comeback said:


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That's takes QB out of the equation. Which is good if you don't want the spectre of Daniel Jones at 6 or 17 ...or you want this team to be as ready to compete next year as possible.

Some players at 6 and 17 who fit immediate starter status and are fits for our team:

Bosa
Allen, Josh
Quentin Williams
Oliver
White
Bush
Dexter Lawrence
Greedy Williams
Baker
Jaylon Ferguson
Burns
Zach Allen


If Remmers is signed (as suspected) than RT would not be an immediate starter.




Add J. Williams


See Remmers comment .
RE: Smoke and mirrors  
Gman11 : 4/15/2019 5:38 pm : link
In comment 14387590 superspynyg said:
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To distract from the fact that we are drafting 2 QBs in round 1.

Shurmur loves qbs.


They'll trade the 2nd and 3rd and get another first rounder and pick a third QB. You just watch.
Very possible we get two starters at #6 and #17.  
TMS : 4/15/2019 6:44 pm : link
this is a strong draft if you do not take a QB who will sit for a couple of years, and not work out anyway. Believe ELI still can do the job in the right circumstances.
If Shurmur looked at his current roster a bit more  
Jimmy Googs : 4/15/2019 7:20 pm : link
finding two immediate starters from this draft should be a piece of cake...
Delete  
Bluesbreaker : 4/15/2019 7:37 pm : link
Wish we could add the Governor Mayor the AG or abort
This is going to be a very interesting draft. Much more fun tha 2018  
Ivan15 : 4/15/2019 8:26 pm : link
No matter what the Cards do.
Sports media  
darren in pdx : 4/15/2019 8:44 pm : link
and taking quotes out of context, name a better duo.
Talk about setting the bar low  
George : 4/15/2019 8:47 pm : link
If we ONLY get 2 or 3 defensive starters out of this draft we'll be in trouble. This is shaping up to be one an outstanding year for DLs, LBs, and Safeties, and we need to plug roster holes in all of those positions. I'm hoping we find 4 or 5 starters from this class of players, not just 2 or 3.
If we didnt get 2  
mattlawson : 4/15/2019 8:54 pm : link
Id be pissed
RE: Talk about setting the bar low  
TMS : 4/15/2019 9:05 pm : link
In comment 14387863 George said:
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If we ONLY get 2 or 3 defensive starters out of this draft we'll be in trouble. This is shaping up to be one an outstanding year for DLs, LBs, and Safeties, and we need to plug roster holes in all of those positions. I'm hoping we find 4 or 5 starters from this class of players, not just 2 or 3.
Like your thinking buddy.
RE: Talk about setting the bar low  
Giants_Rock : 4/15/2019 11:55 pm : link
In comment 14387863 George said:
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If we ONLY get 2 or 3 defensive starters out of this draft we'll be in trouble. This is shaping up to be one an outstanding year for DLs, LBs, and Safeties, and we need to plug roster holes in all of those positions. I'm hoping we find 4 or 5 starters from this class of players, not just 2 or 3.


I long for the day when we can enter a draft not desparately needing at least five new starters.
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