and keep the thread? There are always idiots who will post something stupid. Eliminating a worthwhile thread because of it seems like too extreme a response.
And yes, I am not surprised that someone found the controversial view to a beautiful, historic building burning down.
Also, I started receiving e-mail complaints about it.
Sorry.
Not your fault. There were some great photos that I wanted to return to. Insane that a burning cathedral/work of art/loss of a piece of human history would be a problem thread. pretty pathetic actually.
and keep the thread? There are always idiots who will post something stupid. Eliminating a worthwhile thread because of it seems like too extreme a response.
And yes, I am not surprised that someone found the controversial view to a beautiful, historic building burning down.
Too labor intensive. Again, the same points would have been raised later.
We can no longer have current events discussions on BBI. It inevitably becomes a free speech vs. hate speech shitfest and a no-win situation for moderators.
I saw this French girl who looked -exactly - like my cousin and aunt. In a spooky way. I was with the baby mama at the time so I said nothing.
Years later I learned that my grandfather had a French wife during his WW1 service. Maybe it was my cousin. I had had a very spooky feeling at that moment.
Special place, Notre Dame, where occurrences like that are in the hundreds of thousands over the years.
and keep the thread? There are always idiots who will post something stupid. Eliminating a worthwhile thread because of it seems like too extreme a response.
And yes, I am not surprised that someone found the controversial view to a beautiful, historic building burning down.
Too labor intensive. Again, the same points would have been raised later.
We can no longer have current events discussions on BBI. It inevitably becomes a free speech vs. hate speech shitfest and a no-win situation for moderators.
i see the mods here take things down every time there is a hint of of criticism of right wing politics. most of us know the political orientation of the site. you should just let everything stand except the most egregious instances. just my opinion
Devastating that it would burn down. What a tragic loss. A monument to human endeavor. Unbelievable that they were able to build such a magnificent structure with only labor power and no steam or electric powered tools.
Also, I started receiving e-mail complaints about it.
Sorry.
Once you started reacting to complaints you may have indirectly motivated and invited even more.
Steve, we've tried numerous options. It's a no-win situation for us to allow any of these discussions. Sad, but it is what it is.
It always has surprised me, and still does, how so many adults e-mail you with complaints about posts on a message board. How do they get through their days when navigating through life? Always has been a head scratcher for me.
Fire has spread to one of the towers and they are hoping they can stop it from spreading to the other tower. Probably an impossible job to stop fire spreading in a massive 700 year old building.
Fire has spread to one of the towers and they are hoping they can stop it from spreading to the other tower. Probably an impossible job to stop fire spreading in a massive 700 year old building.
Not just that. They are saying on the news that the church was nicknamed the Forest because they used 56 acres of timber on the inside. I can only imagine how flammable timber is that has been drying for 900+ years.
It probably took several treasuries and many conquests to build it in the first place.. even if they could do it now, it would be highly irresponsible. Best they could do is some sort of modern homage.
The plan will be to rebuild, I know it will never be the same. I just hope the priceless art pieces and stone facade are spared
I've heard a couple reports that as soon as the fire started there was a mad dash to get as much artwork out as they could. How much and what they saved I have no idea but hopefully they saved some of the important pieces.
It probably took several treasuries and many conquests to build it in the first place.. even if they could do it now, it would be highly irresponsible. Best they could do is some sort of modern homage.
Why would it be irresponsible? Cathedrals have burned down in Europe before and been rebuilt.
I guess I shouldn't ask with some of the yahoos on here interjecting religion/politics, but a burning cathedral thread??
Also, I started receiving e-mail complaints about it.
Sorry.
Too labor intensive. It would have quickly turned ugly again.
And yes, I am not surprised that someone found the controversial view to a beautiful, historic building burning down.
Also, I started receiving e-mail complaints about it.
Sorry.
Not your fault. There were some great photos that I wanted to return to. Insane that a burning cathedral/work of art/loss of a piece of human history would be a problem thread. pretty pathetic actually.
Also, I started receiving e-mail complaints about it.
Sorry.
Once you started reacting to complaints you may have indirectly motivated and invited even more.
And yes, I am not surprised that someone found the controversial view to a beautiful, historic building burning down.
Too labor intensive. Again, the same points would have been raised later.
We can no longer have current events discussions on BBI. It inevitably becomes a free speech vs. hate speech shitfest and a no-win situation for moderators.
Years later I learned that my grandfather had a French wife during his WW1 service. Maybe it was my cousin. I had had a very spooky feeling at that moment.
Special place, Notre Dame, where occurrences like that are in the hundreds of thousands over the years.
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30 minutes, came back, and it had turned ugly.
Also, I started receiving e-mail complaints about it.
Sorry.
Once you started reacting to complaints you may have indirectly motivated and invited even more.
Steve, we've tried numerous options. It's a no-win situation for us to allow any of these discussions. Sad, but it is what it is.
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and keep the thread? There are always idiots who will post something stupid. Eliminating a worthwhile thread because of it seems like too extreme a response.
And yes, I am not surprised that someone found the controversial view to a beautiful, historic building burning down.
Too labor intensive. Again, the same points would have been raised later.
We can no longer have current events discussions on BBI. It inevitably becomes a free speech vs. hate speech shitfest and a no-win situation for moderators.
i see the mods here take things down every time there is a hint of of criticism of right wing politics. most of us know the political orientation of the site. you should just let everything stand except the most egregious instances. just my opinion
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30 minutes, came back, and it had turned ugly.
Also, I started receiving e-mail complaints about it.
Sorry.
Once you started reacting to complaints you may have indirectly motivated and invited even more.
Steve, we've tried numerous options. It's a no-win situation for us to allow any of these discussions. Sad, but it is what it is.
It always has surprised me, and still does, how so many adults e-mail you with complaints about posts on a message board. How do they get through their days when navigating through life? Always has been a head scratcher for me.
I regularly get hate e-mail accusing me of being a Marxist and a Nazi.
Also, I started receiving e-mail complaints about it.
Sorry.
You have nothing to apologize for. I'm sure you're sad that you had to take it down.
Also, I started receiving e-mail complaints about it.
Sorry.
Lol who the heck emails you to complain? Thats insane to me...maybe I'm crazy.
Social media is a cesspool of human interaction.
I regularly get hate e-mail accusing me of being a Marxist and a Nazi.
Wow. I'm sorry you get email like that. That is awful.
but the building, which is the most important thing imo, is likely completely lost.
And I don't think I posted anything controversial, but we all have different definitions of the word.
But that wont happen sadly.
The knights and the saints.
The various types of Craftsmen who labored for 300 years to build it.
30O years of hand craft
Bakers, butchers, people getting married, baptisms ..thousands of all that, thousands of occurrences such as those over sooooo long.
The crown of thorns! Statuary...
This. But they are enabled by action.
It's not the first time he's tried to steer a thread in that direction, either. Must be something in the water in Marin County.
Trying to imagine a scenario that would've turned a church fire political... ah, now that I write it, I hear it. :)
WOW!
That image shows, amazingly, that as of this moment, the stone ceiling (vault) hasn't failed.
It would truly be remarkable if the interior of the cathedral is spared.
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That image shows, amazingly, that as of this moment, the stone ceiling (vault) hasn't failed.
It would truly be remarkable if the interior of the cathedral is spared.
the interior is already gone. i think they are just trying to save the structure now.
If any of the butresses are wood as well.
Calling all Craftsmen who work by hand!
Crazy
Or to rebuild.
I've heard a couple reports that as soon as the fire started there was a mad dash to get as much artwork out as they could. How much and what they saved I have no idea but hopefully they saved some of the important pieces.
Why would it be irresponsible? Cathedrals have burned down in Europe before and been rebuilt.