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NFT: Mets at Phillies Game 1. Thor

ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 5:36 pm
Mets Lineup

Brandon Nimmo CF
Pete Alonso 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Michael Conforto RF
Wilson Ramos C
Jeff McNeil LF
Amed Rosario SS
J.D. Davis 3B
Noah Syndergaard RHP

Phillies Lineup

Andrew McCutchen LF
Jean Segura SS
Bryce Harper RF
Rhys Hoskins 1B
J.T. Realmuto C
Odubel Herrera CF
Cesar Hernandez SS
Maikel Franco 3B
Aaron Nola RHP

LGM!
Another great  
JayBinQueens : 4/15/2019 5:36 pm : link
pitching match up in the NL East
.  
DanMetroMan : 4/15/2019 5:43 pm : link
Allison McCague
@PetitePhD

16h
It seems Jacob deGrom was not informed that he will be pitching Friday (with Vargas being pushed back) until the beats told him just now. Which, you know, messing with the routine of your ace who is struggling and not informing him is definitely a thing a healthy franchise does.
Ill be watching as a Yanks fan  
FrankieR : 4/15/2019 5:47 pm : link
Should be a good one. I am rooting for the Mets.

#LGM
RE: .  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 6:05 pm : link
In comment 14387703 DanMetroMan said:
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Allison McCague
@PetitePhD

16h
It seems Jacob deGrom was not informed that he will be pitching Friday (with Vargas being pushed back) until the beats told him just now. Which, you know, messing with the routine of your ace who is struggling and not informing him is definitely a thing a healthy franchise does.


Jesus these athletes are coddled these days. Is he mentally retarded? Did he not expect this option at all? Is Callaway mentally retarded and not discuss this as an option to him? . I sense a strong dysfunction of some of these pitchers with the coaching staff and management.
Its sad bc the positional players are really playing as a team.
Maybe Nola will show up  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 6:07 pm : link
Tonight instead of whoever pitched the first three games.
RE: Maybe Nola will show up  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 6:16 pm : link
In comment 14387735 dep026 said:
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Tonight instead of whoever pitched the first three games.


So the Mets arent the only team in baseball whos teams top pitchers have struggled with command in the first half of the year?
Thor picked up Jake and the team last time  
Rob in Rockaway : 4/15/2019 6:28 pm : link
hopefully he does it again.
RE: Maybe Nola will show up  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2019 6:32 pm : link
In comment 14387735 dep026 said:
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Tonight instead of whoever pitched the first three games.


Don't worry, Gabe Kapler will take him out after 6 innings and 80 pitches so he doesn't have to face the Mets a third time through the batting order
I missed the last couple but it seems like BP is still achillies heel  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2019 6:59 pm : link
other than the obvious (Vargas). I love Familia the pitcher, but I am worried that it's more of an adjustment than it seems to setup guy. He wasn't bad in the role for Oakland last year but to start this year there are 2 huge concerns:
1) he's walked twice as many guys as normal (7 per/9)
2) he's already given up 2 homers this year when all of last year he gave up 3. He only gave up 2 total homers in '16+'17 combined. So he is almost halfway to his prior 3 year total in 2 weeks.

I wonder if it might help to get him on track by letting him get some save opportunities in games where we want to give Diaz a rest. We have seen it time and time again with closers that they just pitch better in bigger situations vs. blowouts.

Wilson I have minimal confidence in as anything more than a middle reliever. Cross our fingers I guess. Lugo and Gsellman both seem to have gotten some bad luck with babip so far, so I still have some confidence in both of them (more in Lugo) but 1 of them may also need to go back to the rotation.

Nobody else seems like they can even be counted on for a secure spot on the roster going forward - so i'd say they are already extremely thin, with little help at AAA, and that's without any injuries. I don't think Kimbrel is the answer and I doubt they spend on a multi-year deal for Keuchel. Yikes. JD Davis' easiest path to staying in the big leagues might be going back to pitching.
RE: RE: Maybe Nola will show up  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 7:11 pm : link
In comment 14387751 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 14387735 dep026 said:


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Tonight instead of whoever pitched the first three games.



Don't worry, Gabe Kapler will take him out after 6 innings and 80 pitches so he doesn't have to face the Mets a third time through the batting order


LOL. Great line!

Little windy there tonight.
Dep  
Jay on the Island : 4/15/2019 7:20 pm : link
How has Kapler been doing this season so far? Has he learned from last year at all?
RE: Dep  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 7:23 pm : link
In comment 14387779 Jay on the Island said:
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How has Kapler been doing this season so far? Has he learned from last year at all?


Offense he has been fine since he doesnt change the lineup.

Still clueless on the bullpen. 6 different pitchers have tried closing out games. No one knows their role.
And Gabe Kapler strikes  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 7:37 pm : link
Again.

Dumbest manager in sports.
Nice hitting  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 8:09 pm : link
Ramos. 2-0.
lol.  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 8:11 pm : link
Ramos scored from 2nd on a single. Wow.
McNeil might challenge for a  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 8:14 pm : link
MVP. Guy is insane.
Nola has been god awful this  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 8:15 pm : link
Year.
This umpire sucks...  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 8:18 pm : link
Holy shit he is squeezing Thor.
Thor does this way too much  
Rflairr : 4/15/2019 8:23 pm : link
when the Mets give him a lead.
I only want to see MLB make one rule change.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 8:28 pm : link
And that would be to ban hitters from stepping out to adjust their batting gloves after every pitch.

I dont know why but it drives me nuts.
Hoskins takes more hittable pitches in baseball  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 8:29 pm : link
Reason why he Ks in big spots.
Thor gives it right back  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 8:31 pm : link
Sigh...
Got squeezed  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 8:32 pm : link
On the 2-2 pitch to Nola. Shouldve been strike 3 and this inning never happens.
RE: Got squeezed  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 8:39 pm : link
In comment 14387851 nygfaninorlando said:
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On the 2-2 pitch to Nola. Shouldve been strike 3 and this inning never happens.


Yup. Exactly. Should still be a 3-0 game. And now he he is giving Nola a strikzone the size of Texas against Nimmo. WTF.
Goodjob Nimmo  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 8:42 pm : link
The ol 6 pitch walk.
Does Nola always pitch this slow?  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 8:47 pm : link
Holy smokes he takes forever.
Ill take it Robbie  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 8:48 pm : link
Thx.
Great job Nola  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 8:48 pm : link
Overrated bum.
Geez tie game again  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 8:58 pm : link
Ugh
Noah has been just awesome so far this year.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 8:58 pm : link
Way to show up, bud.
Starting Pitching  
GF1080 : 4/15/2019 9:00 pm : link
Looks like everyone of them has regressed so far except for Matz.
Time for his pitching to match  
Rflairr : 4/15/2019 9:01 pm : link
His big mouth
It's definitely not uncommon  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 9:16 pm : link
for pitchers to struggle with their feel/touch/location etc. early in the season but I think the balls are juiced this year too. Too many pitchers are struggling and getting hit hard.

Almost every bullpen in the division has been beat to hell. Aces like deGrom, Sale, Nola, etc. have al been bombed at least once.

Maybe its just "April" but something weird seems to be going on too.
.  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2019 9:17 pm : link

Rich MacLeod
‏ @richmacleod
6s7 seconds ago

Noah Syndergaard now has a 6.14 ERA and the Mets pitching (2nd worst ERA in the NL) is somehow getting worse before it gets better.
That was ball 4 to realmuto  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 9:21 pm : link
...
RE: It's definitely not uncommon  
Rob in Rockaway : 4/15/2019 9:23 pm : link
In comment 14387890 ZGiants98 said:
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for pitchers to struggle with their feel/touch/location etc. early in the season but I think the balls are juiced this year too. Too many pitchers are struggling and getting hit hard.

Almost every bullpen in the division has been beat to hell. Aces like deGrom, Sale, Nola, etc. have al been bombed at least once.

Kluber too

Maybe its just "April" but something weird seems to be going on too.
Some positive Syndergaard stats  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2019 9:25 pm : link
Ryan M. Spaeder
‏Verified account @theaceofspaeder
5m5 minutes ago

Batters faced to 600 career strikeouts:

#Mets Noah Syndergaard - 2,206

Chris Sale - 2,237
Clayton Kershaw - 2,394
Max Scherzer - 2,623

Nolan Ryan - 2,656
Randy Johnson - 2,738
Roger Clemens - 2,803



Jayson Stark
‏Verified account @jaysonst
50s50 seconds ago

He did it 500 hitters faster than Randy Johnson!
Nice poke Nimmo  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 9:32 pm : link
.
Nimmo  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 9:32 pm : link
baby. Let's win this shit game.
Lugo  
ChaChing : 4/15/2019 9:58 pm : link
is no longer sick
Man Im really starting to love Davis  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:04 pm : link
Stay away Frazier.
That is such fucking bullshit  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:10 pm : link
Im so sick of these horrid challenge replays.
Every replay til that last one that looked safe  
ChaChing : 4/15/2019 10:12 pm : link
but he tagged him on the 2nd swipe while Lagares was hopping on top of the base
Familia looks like hot garbage. Wow  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:20 pm : link
Should have went with Wilson. At least he throws strikes.
WTF  
CMicks3110 : 4/15/2019 10:21 pm : link
Has happened to Jeurys, he does this every f*ing game he comes in. Should have signed Ottavino.
Come on Benetiz  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 10:22 pm : link
Every time with Familia. Can he ever work a clean inning?
Can we have a single game where the BP doesnt shit the bed?  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 10:22 pm : link
JFC
Wow. Embarrassing when your top SU option  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:22 pm : link
Might get replaced by Bullet Bob.
Familia is going to give this game away. Book it.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 10:23 pm : link
.
Wow.  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:25 pm : link
Thank God. 1 more.
McSquirrel!!!!!  
ChaChing : 4/15/2019 10:25 pm : link
what a play
What is Mickey doing? Yank this bum.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 10:27 pm : link
Familia is just awful.
.  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:28 pm : link
Walks the PH  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 10:28 pm : link
who is batting .083. Geez Familia.
RE: What is Mickey doing? Yank this bum.  
ChaChing : 4/15/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14387954 PhiPsi125 said:
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Familia is just awful.

Yeah expected the move there

MC playing with fire from here
Come on Mickey  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 10:28 pm : link
Cant give away these division games.
He cannot  
SJGiant : 4/15/2019 10:29 pm : link
Throw strikes. Yuk.
21 PITCHES  
CMicks3110 : 4/15/2019 10:29 pm : link
7 STRIKES JFC
Mickey sucks...  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:30 pm : link
Diaz should have been brought in. This is awful.
If you are a batter  
SJGiant : 4/15/2019 10:31 pm : link
Facing Familia, why swing?
Gsellman loses strike zone at times  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2019 10:34 pm : link
Why use him?
How the FUCK  
speedywheels : 4/15/2019 10:35 pm : link
Do you not bring in your closer?!
Mickey sucks, Familia sucks  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 10:36 pm : link
Every single game. Every single damn game.

Pitcher Whisperer my ass.
Kimbrel should be signed  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 10:36 pm : link
at this point. Cant give away games like this. Familia is garbage and cant be the 8th inning guy. Gsellman sucks too. Move Lugo to the rotation to replace Vargas. Sign Kimbrel as setup man.
Embarrassing  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:36 pm : link
On top of the Familia shit show Mickey is a complete buffoon.
RE: Gsellman loses strike zone at times  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:37 pm : link
In comment 14387966 Mike in NY said:
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Why use him?


Yeah Gsellman almost always walks the first batter and seems to get better as he settles in more. He should be in the rotation IMO. Sign Kimbrel.
Pitching Philosophy fail?  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 10:38 pm : link
Ok its one thing when 2-3 guys cant pitch strikes, particularly first pitch.

BUT THE ENTIRE STAFF?

When do we realize its a coaching issue?

And/or if Diaz cant pitch more than an inning, then they def need Kimbrell

Holy hell I havent seen a Mets staff this bad since the Anthony Young/Eric Hillman years
Thought Riggleman was  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 10:38 pm : link
brought in to help with in game decisions. How do you not use your closer with the game on the line there?
McNeil prob their best 3B  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 10:48 pm : link
Option

Can jd Davis play OF?
McNeil is awesome at 3B  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:50 pm : link
2B too. Underrated defensive infielder. Big time.
RE: McNeil prob their best 3B  
ChaChing : 4/15/2019 10:51 pm : link
In comment 14387983 giantsFC said:
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Option

Can jd Davis play OF?

They said today he's started taking fly balls fwiw. Who knows how soon that could happen even if they are committed to it. Tho Lowrie's return if not Frazier's will likely factor

Gsellman with a solid inning there
Man.  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:53 pm : link
Gsellman always seems to settle down after a hitter or two. Make him the 5th starter!
McNeil  
ChaChing : 4/15/2019 10:55 pm : link
still hit good too
Rosario was doing well for a little bit  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:58 pm : link
But I feel he quickly went into a slump and is lost right now. AWFUL.
The balls have got to be juiced this year  
CMicks3110 : 4/15/2019 10:58 pm : link
walks are on familia for sure; but some of these mets pitchers, and pitchers around the league as Z was alluding to, are just being hammered, no matter how hard they throw. Velocity doesn't give the advantage it once did. Location and pitch mix are now more important--look at Lugo tonight, control, good breaking pitches, he really should be in the rotation.
How is that a strike  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2019 11:00 pm : link
After Thor got squeezed?
HOW DO YOU NOT BUNT THERE!  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 11:00 pm : link
We all knew double play was coming.

God Callaway is an idiot. TC was boring and made some dumb mistakes but this guy is even worse.

Heck willlie Randolph would be better
Cannot wait for electronic strike zones  
ChaChing : 4/15/2019 11:00 pm : link
not holding my breath just yet but it's well beyond time
RE: The balls have got to be juiced this year  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 11:02 pm : link
In comment 14387994 CMicks3110 said:
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walks are on familia for sure; but some of these mets pitchers, and pitchers around the league as Z was alluding to, are just being hammered, no matter how hard they throw. Velocity doesn't give the advantage it once did. Location and pitch mix are now more important--look at Lugo tonight, control, good breaking pitches, he really should be in the rotation.


Hence why a guy like Dallas Keuchel May be good this year. Or Brett Sabrahagen comes out of retirement. He had some mad first pitch strike skills
RE: The balls have got to be juiced this year  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:03 pm : link
In comment 14387994 CMicks3110 said:
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walks are on familia for sure; but some of these mets pitchers, and pitchers around the league as Z was alluding to, are just being hammered, no matter how hard they throw. Velocity doesn't give the advantage it once did. Location and pitch mix are now more important--look at Lugo tonight, control, good breaking pitches, he really should be in the rotation.


Yeah I think a giveaway too is how hard the ball has been bouncing off the turf. Twice it just completely bounced over the 1B's head. That never happens and it happened to us twice in a week. Those balls are wound tight as hell.
Awful call on Dom  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:04 pm : link
Not surprised.
Why is Avilan in over  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:05 pm : link
Wilson?
Sorry, not buying the juiced ball excuse.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 11:05 pm : link
These guys cant throw strikes, constantly walking guys and behind in the count. Then you have to players pitches to hit. They know its coming and they will get their hits. These balls arent being crushed all over the place. Its piss poor execution and pitchers not performing. Simple as that.
lol. It's not an excuse.  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:07 pm : link
Just an observation. Works both ways. Mets are scoring runs at a historic rate to start the year. The ball does seem to be flying around a lot. OBVIOUSLY, the Mets have to pitch better.
I feel like Sandy hired Mickey to troll us  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2019 11:07 pm : link
I really never thought I'd miss Collins, but here we are.
Does Riggleman do anything?  
moespree : 4/15/2019 11:08 pm : link
Wasn't he hired to ensure Mickey stopped doing stupid things every single day?
OH  
CMicks3110 : 4/15/2019 11:08 pm : link
the walks are totally on the pitchers; my sense is they are nibbling, knowing they can't throw it down the center. There is going to be some major adjustments needed by a lot of these pitchers.
I am really starting to fucking hate Mickey  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:08 pm : link
Why is Avilan constantly brought in to face righties? If you don't want a LOOGY on your team than don't have one!
So, you constantly talk about how stacked the Mets offense is  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 11:10 pm : link
which is clearly going to translate to more runs. But now its because the baseballls are juiced? Which is it?
Nibble Nibble  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 11:12 pm : link
Nibble. Too many walks and pitching behind in the count. Bullpen needs to be better.
RE: So, you constantly talk about how stacked the Mets offense is  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:12 pm : link
In comment 14388013 PhiPsi125 said:
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which is clearly going to translate to more runs. But now its because the baseballls are juiced? Which is it?


How stacked it is? I like our offense. I think I said top 5 in the NL. I don't know about stacked. Maybe when Lowrie and Cespedes come back it will be.

So I can't make an observation that the ball seems to be flying around more this year? Just about every ace in baseball has been hit hard. Our entire division's bullpens have been shredded. And yes offensively, we are on a record pace. Did I say this would the best offense of all time? Because thats what we are on pace to be.
enough of Callaway  
fanofthejets : 4/15/2019 11:13 pm : link
Callaway is not an intelligent person. Not having Diaz in there to pitch to Segura with the bases loaded and allowing Gsellman to walk a run in is inexcusable. Callaway is costing us games. How the heck do you not go to your closer there. He should've been warming as soon as Familia came in because there was an almost 100% chance Familia was going into gutless choke mode. Which he did
And no  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:14 pm : link
Im not saying it's just because of juiced balls. Clearly, the pitchers are still struggling and clearly offensive players are still doing well.

Just think it might be contributing to some of this.
RE: I am really starting to fucking hate Mickey  
fanofthejets : 4/15/2019 11:15 pm : link
In comment 14388011 ZGiants98 said:
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Why is Avilan constantly brought in to face righties? If you don't want a LOOGY on your team than don't have one!


Callaways staggering idiocy was on display last year as well. I mean he was so bad you could've made a strong case for him not even lasting his first year. He is not capable of thinking ahead or understanding baseball

I think BVW sees this. I pray he is given the green light from the Wilpons to can this shit
Its a joke we got out of that  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:16 pm : link
Thanks Segura!
RE: RE: I am really starting to fucking hate Mickey  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:17 pm : link
In comment 14388025 fanofthejets said:
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In comment 14388011 ZGiants98 said:


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Why is Avilan constantly brought in to face righties? If you don't want a LOOGY on your team than don't have one!



Callaways staggering idiocy was on display last year as well. I mean he was so bad you could've made a strong case for him not even lasting his first year. He is not capable of thinking ahead or understanding baseball

I think BVW sees this. I pray he is given the green light from the Wilpons to can this shit


Oh I agree. Mickey sucks ass.
Lagares gets on to start the 11th  
fanofthejets : 4/15/2019 11:19 pm : link
must stay out of the DP here.
and Mr. Double Play Travis d'Arnaud is on deck  
fanofthejets : 4/15/2019 11:20 pm : link
ugh. It almost looks like he tries to pull the ball to the shortstop sometimes
Ebbs and flows, right? Clearly the Mets offense isnt going to keep  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 11:21 pm : link
this pace. I just dont believe that the balls are juiced.

What I see is pitchers that cant throw strikes, walk the ballpark, constantly behind in the count and giving players fat pitches to hit. Its pretty basic.

Now, sure, I guess the balls could be juiced. But thats not the reason (I see) for our pitching woes. Its the inability to throw strikes.
I will always LOVE watching Nimmo sprint to first on walks  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 11:23 pm : link
Lol
GOTTA BUNT  
CMicks3110 : 4/15/2019 11:23 pm : link
HERE
Why use TdA to bunt  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2019 11:24 pm : link
When you have Matz or deGrom who could butcher boy?
RE: Ebbs and flows, right? Clearly the Mets offense isnt going to keep  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:24 pm : link
In comment 14388030 PhiPsi125 said:
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this pace. I just dont believe that the balls are juiced.

What I see is pitchers that cant throw strikes, walk the ballpark, constantly behind in the count and giving players fat pitches to hit. Its pretty basic.

Now, sure, I guess the balls could be juiced. But thats not the reason (I see) for our pitching woes. Its the inability to throw strikes.


Im not disagreeing with any of that.
Come inn dArnaud  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 11:24 pm : link
Gotta get a bunt down. Gee whiz.
JFC  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:25 pm : link
I hate this game. Even if we win Im going to be pissed. lol
What a waste  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 11:25 pm : link
Infield fly. Great job
RE: Come inn dArnaud  
fanofthejets : 4/15/2019 11:26 pm : link
In comment 14388036 nygfaninorlando said:
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Gotta get a bunt down. Gee whiz.


back to back PERFECT pitches to bunt

What a wasted career. Yea not all of it was his fault...but he's pretty brittle. Injury after injury. As soon as he gets anything going at the plate during any year you just know a 60 day DL stint with setbacks is right around the corner.
non competitive AB by Cano there  
fanofthejets : 4/15/2019 11:27 pm : link
Expected better. Man this is going to be a bitter loss. But I can deal with it if it is one step towards Callaway no longer managing us

1st and 2nd 0 outs and the Mets go hyper gutless
Conforto!!  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:29 pm : link
NICE!
God Hoskins makes Ryan Howard  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 11:31 pm : link
Look like Keith Hernandez at first.

Of course Kaplers pet has to play 2nd every game instead of Kingery whos a better player.

Fuck Kapler.
Hoskins looked like he was getting tea bagged  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2019 11:31 pm : link
that's a pretty awful defensive play. Now watch Mickey double switch Ramos out of the game and lose on a Darnaud defensive miscue.
RE: God Hoskins makes Ryan Howard  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2019 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14388042 dep026 said:
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Look like Keith Hernandez at first.

Of course Kaplers pet has to play 2nd every game instead of Kingery whos a better player.

Fuck Kapler.


Callaway for Kapler straight up, who says no?
RE: Come inn dArnaud  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2019 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14388036 nygfaninorlando said:
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Gotta get a bunt down. Gee whiz.


the guy has had three sac bunts in 7 years. It's a low percentage play to begin with, then you waste your bench bat asking a guy to do something he doesn't usually do? it's on Mickey as much as on TDA

RE: RE: Come inn dArnaud  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2019 11:33 pm : link
In comment 14388045 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14388036 nygfaninorlando said:


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Gotta get a bunt down. Gee whiz.



the guy has had three sac bunts in 7 years. It's a low percentage play to begin with, then you waste your bench bat asking a guy to do something he doesn't usually do? it's on Mickey as much as on TDA


yes. Mickey is the worst. Seriously just bring Collins back. He's still in the org isn't he?
Thank you Conforto  
Chris684 : 4/15/2019 11:33 pm : link
I was over TDA 2 seasons ago. Guy is just not a good player.

Come on Diaz
RE: RE: God Hoskins makes Ryan Howard  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 11:33 pm : link
In comment 14388044 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 14388042 dep026 said:


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Look like Keith Hernandez at first.

Of course Kaplers pet has to play 2nd every game instead of Kingery whos a better player.

Fuck Kapler.



Callaway for Kapler straight up, who says no?


Mets
Ok Diaz..  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:34 pm : link
This is what we traded Kelenic for. Do your job.
this is the best Diaz has looked  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2019 11:35 pm : link
damn impressive.
RE: RE: RE: Come inn dArnaud  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2019 11:35 pm : link
In comment 14388046 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 14388036 nygfaninorlando said:


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Gotta get a bunt down. Gee whiz.



the guy has had three sac bunts in 7 years. It's a low percentage play to begin with, then you waste your bench bat asking a guy to do something he doesn't usually do? it's on Mickey as much as on TDA




yes. Mickey is the worst. Seriously just bring Collins back. He's still in the org isn't he?



funny thing about Mickey is I could have sworn in the Mets manager search threads people loved the guy and were dead set the Mets wouldn't select him for the job b/c they were going to go with an old retread.

now, everyone hates him.

And I'm not saying people shouldn't hate him, just one of those be careful what you wish for things.

Maybe it was just based on the other names floated, but at least that's how it seemed to me.
Great game Rhys  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 11:36 pm : link
Mets best player tonight.
Filthy!!  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:36 pm : link
Damn.
As long as Kapler is the Phillies manager  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 11:37 pm : link
They will never be a threat. By far and away the worst manager in sports. Its not even close.
Books.  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:37 pm : link
Now that's a fucking closer. Enjoy Seattle Kelenic!!
RE: RE: RE: RE: Come inn dArnaud  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2019 11:38 pm : link
In comment 14388051 pjcas18 said:
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funny thing about Mickey is I could have sworn in the Mets manager search threads people loved the guy and were dead set the Mets wouldn't select him for the job b/c they were going to go with an old retread.

now, everyone hates him.

And I'm not saying people shouldn't hate him, just one of those be careful what you wish for things.

Maybe it was just based on the other names floated, but at least that's how it seemed to me.


That's 100% correct - myself included. He was the young/hot name vs. whoever the other guys were with previous experience. But sometimes those guys end up just totally in over their heads and he seems to fit into that category.
This game put me in a crappy mood  
Chris684 : 4/15/2019 11:38 pm : link
But ended on a high note with Diaz. He is a stud.
We couldn't use that dominance  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:38 pm : link
in the 8th inning for one out?? Save us all an extra hour of sleep? lol
Well, score a win in SPITE of Mickey  
speedywheels : 4/15/2019 11:38 pm : link
Especially a division one...
RE: As long as Kapler is the Phillies manager  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 11:38 pm : link
In comment 14388057 dep026 said:
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They will never be a threat. By far and away the worst manager in sports. Its not even close.


Mickey Callaway: hold my bee..*drops beer during transition*
Good win.  
madgiantscow009 : 4/15/2019 11:39 pm : link
Got home just in time.
RE: RE: As long as Kapler is the Phillies manager  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 11:39 pm : link
In comment 14388063 giantsFC said:
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In comment 14388057 dep026 said:


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They will never be a threat. By far and away the worst manager in sports. Its not even close.



Mickey Callaway: hold my bee..*drops beer during transition*


Its not even close. Ill throw in our top prospect if it meant you took Kapler.
Familia needs to figure his shit out.  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:40 pm : link
ASAP.
RE: and Mr. Double Play Travis d'Arnaud is on deck  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 11:41 pm : link
In comment 14388029 fanofthejets said:
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ugh. It almost looks like he tries to pull the ball to the shortstop sometimes


Im cracking up
RE: Familia needs to figure his shit out.  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 11:43 pm : link
In comment 14388068 ZGiants98 said:
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ASAP.


He seems past his prime. Hopefully he can reinvent himself like so many good relievers do. Its such a an up and down position year to year.

Isnt Swartzyk doing ok in Seattle this year?
RE: RE: RE: As long as Kapler is the Phillies manager  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 11:44 pm : link
In comment 14388067 dep026 said:
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In comment 14388063 giantsFC said:


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In comment 14388057 dep026 said:


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They will never be a threat. By far and away the worst manager in sports. Its not even close.



Mickey Callaway: hold my bee..*drops beer during transition*



Its not even close. Ill throw in our top prospect if it meant you took Kapler.


Both teams weak link is their manager. Scary times.
RE: RE: Familia needs to figure his shit out.  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:47 pm : link
In comment 14388070 giantsFC said:
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In comment 14388068 ZGiants98 said:


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ASAP.



He seems past his prime. Hopefully he can reinvent himself like so many good relievers do. Its such a an up and down position year to year.

Isnt Swartzyk doing ok in Seattle this year?


I thought Swarzak was hurt. Familia is still throwing 97s up there. The stuff is there. He just has not control of his pitches. We've seen this from him before for stretches but it's really really really bad right now. He can't locate shit.
I'm w/ yalls on Diaz  
ChaChing : 4/15/2019 11:47 pm : link
But right or wrong they said today & a few times this season he always started clean innings for 3 outs for SEA and NYM would follow suit

Given that, it's my further question about Kimbrel, as I've read he's used the same. If so is he an option esp at a high $? That's if he's open to a non-closer role, as they'd be walking back some conversations they had w/ Diaz to this point you'd think...
Actually maybe not  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:48 pm : link
4 innings for Swarzak 0 ERA. Im sure he's going to have a fine year in Seattle actually. He was an injured mess last year.
RE: I'm w/ yalls on Diaz  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:49 pm : link
In comment 14388074 ChaChing said:
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But right or wrong they said today & a few times this season he always started clean innings for 3 outs for SEA and NYM would follow suit

Given that, it's my further question about Kimbrel, as I've read he's used the same. If so is he an option esp at a high $? That's if he's open to a non-closer role, as they'd be walking back some conversations they had w/ Diaz to this point you'd think...


Yeah that's the biggest question for me. Is Kimbrel coming here to be a SU guy? Not sure he would even go for that.
So apparently Mickey just said no 4 out saves this season  
moespree : 4/16/2019 12:02 am : link
He said Diaz won't ever pitch more than three outs according to DiComo.
RE: and Mr. Double Play Travis d'Arnaud is on deck  
madgiantscow009 : 4/16/2019 12:04 am : link
In comment 14388029 fanofthejets said:
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ugh. It almost looks like he tries to pull the ball to the shortstop sometimes


it is human nature to aim projectiles at things. travis has strong hunting instincts.
RE: So apparently Mickey just said no 4 out saves this season  
ChaChing : 4/16/2019 12:16 am : link
In comment 14388082 moespree said:
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He said Diaz won't ever pitch more than three outs according to DiComo.

I wonder if this was on Diaz or his agent's insistence (if not part of his contract?). Last year especially, Mickey talked about versatility and the ability for pitchers to go multiple innings. But now w/ Diaz that's not even an option

Still I would consider bringing Diaz in the 8th case by case, vs the heart of the lineup for example then trotting out Familia or another RP in the 9th even w/ ED limited to 3 outs. If they aren't bringing in reinforcements, the only short term option is more efficient usage with what's available. Not sure this would have helped yet this season, but hopefully MC has it in his arsenal
RE: So apparently Mickey just said no 4 out saves this season  
Vanzetti : 4/16/2019 12:25 am : link
In comment 14388082 moespree said:
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He said Diaz won't ever pitch more than three outs according to DiComo.


Mickey says a lot of things and then does the opposite.

He also makes claims he later contradicts.

So, I would not put much stock in anything he says. Maybe he'll use Avilan for a four out save.
Familia's work lately is disturbing  
allstarjim : 4/16/2019 1:22 am : link
Again, once again...behind in the count throwing off+speed shit. Are you a junk ball pitcher or a power pitcher? Throw the fastball, get strikes, get ahead in the count. If you give up a homerun so be it. But what he's doing now isn't serving him well.
RE: RE: So apparently Mickey just said no 4 out saves this season  
giantsFC : 4/16/2019 2:15 am : link
In comment 14388089 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 14388082 moespree said:


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He said Diaz won't ever pitch more than three outs according to DiComo.



Mickey says a lot of things and then does the opposite.

He also makes claims he later contradicts.

So, I would not put much stock in anything he says. Maybe he'll use Avilan for a four out save.


So true about Callaway
A little added info postgame:  
ChaChing : 4/16/2019 3:16 am : link
Article 1: JDG not tipping pitches
- JDG has been battling sickness for about a week
- JD Davis will begin taking fly balls in LF

Article 2: Game Review
- Diaz says he's ready for whatever they need even if 3+ outs. MC, Eiland & BVW all parrot the idea this is what he did b4 so they will keep to it for now. Fwiw MC says if it were the playoffs it'd be different...
The morning obligation  
dep026 : 4/16/2019 7:11 am : link
Kapler fucking sucks.
Familia has  
Ron Johnson : 4/16/2019 7:42 am : link
No idea where the ball is going.
Thats a tough one to figure out.
Really  
DanMetroMan : 4/16/2019 8:17 am : link
dislike this announcement Diaz will never appear in 4 out save situations. Seidler makes a great point... what happens if "God forbid" you make the playoffs or need 1 game to make the playoffs? put him in a situation where he hasn't done it all year (aka pitch, cool off and then pitch again)? Dumb
I thought the whole Callaway appeal  
pjcas18 : 4/16/2019 8:20 am : link
was he wasn't going to live by rigid bullpen roles and the best pitcher comes in to face the other teams best hitter in the right situation and roles were more fluid

Seems like a lot of people were fooled by the appeal of Callaway.
RE: Really  
Ira : 4/16/2019 8:26 am : link
In comment 14388189 DanMetroMan said:
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dislike this announcement Diaz will never appear in 4 out save situations. Seidler makes a great point... what happens if "God forbid" you make the playoffs or need 1 game to make the playoffs? put him in a situation where he hasn't done it all year (aka pitch, cool off and then pitch again)? Dumb


Well they did say that if it were the playoffs, it would be different. I have to think that if we were close to making the playoffs and there was a 4 out save situation, they'd revisit that decision. What you do in mid April isn't necessarily what you do in late August or September.
RE: I thought the whole Callaway appeal  
Metnut : 4/16/2019 8:32 am : link
In comment 14388194 pjcas18 said:
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was he wasn't going to live by rigid bullpen roles and the best pitcher comes in to face the other teams best hitter in the right situation and roles were more fluid

Seems like a lot of people were fooled by the appeal of Callaway.


Callaway the manager has turned out to be completely different than the guy I thought we were hiring. It seems like half of his quotes annoy the fuck out of me.

Didn't get to watch much of last night's game, but looks like they pulled out a gritty and important early season road win to take over first place. It seems like MLB hitters are adjusting to velocity better than ever, so Thor, DeGrom and Wheeler are all going to have to locate their secondary stuff to have success.

Familia is concerning, but some analytics seem to suggest that Gsellmen's stuff might've rebounded a bit closer to his 2016 form.
RE: RE: Really  
DanMetroMan : 4/16/2019 8:41 am : link
In comment 14388199 Ira said:
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In comment 14388189 DanMetroMan said:


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dislike this announcement Diaz will never appear in 4 out save situations. Seidler makes a great point... what happens if "God forbid" you make the playoffs or need 1 game to make the playoffs? put him in a situation where he hasn't done it all year (aka pitch, cool off and then pitch again)? Dumb



Well they did say that if it were the playoffs, it would be different. I have to think that if we were close to making the playoffs and there was a 4 out save situation, they'd revisit that decision. What you do in mid April isn't necessarily what you do in late August or September.


Ira,
That's my point.. you want him in a situation he hasn't been in all year God forbid we need 1 win in September vs. The Nationals? Every win matters and why let teams know hes unavailable?
And  
DanMetroMan : 4/16/2019 8:42 am : link
Yeah Mickey is a poor manager. He's gone if they don't make the playoffs 100%
Worried About Sept Now?  
Samiam : 4/16/2019 9:11 am : link
I dont think you need to worry about the playoffs or the run to the playoffs on April 16. Mets are in first place, enjoy it. As for Diaz, even if what is being said is true, and who knows, a lot can change in 6 months. Right now, every manager is trying who can do what. If someone is roster, you use them until you get rid of them
TDA  
DanMetroMan : 4/16/2019 9:15 am : link
has had 3 successful bunts in his professional career (including minors). Things like that are why Mickey is a very poor manager beyond what he says.
RE: TDA  
dep026 : 4/16/2019 9:20 am : link
In comment 14388246 DanMetroMan said:
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has had 3 successful bunts in his professional career (including minors). Things like that are why Mickey is a very poor manager beyond what he says.


Kapler would have doubled steamed with two slow guys.
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DanMetroMan : 4/16/2019 9:20 am : link

Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
I dont blame the Mets for protecting Diaz. In fact I credit them for that. But if they are going to be so careful with Diaz, they should sign Kimbrel.
Stealed  
dep026 : 4/16/2019 9:22 am : link
..
Yup  
DanMetroMan : 4/16/2019 9:22 am : link
metspolice.com
@metspolice

2h
What happened to Mickeys New Culture (2018) where guys dont have set roles? That wasnt a stupid thing a rookie manager said that the media lapped up is it?
RE: TDA  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2019 9:23 am : link
In comment 14388246 DanMetroMan said:
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has had 3 successful bunts in his professional career (including minors). Things like that are why Mickey is a very poor manager beyond what he says.


What's more perplexing is that deGrom was not available out of the bullpen and because he is a former shortstop you could butcher boy and other things with him. Would have been better to use him in that role and saved TdA for a more important position.
RE: RE: TDA  
DanMetroMan : 4/16/2019 9:26 am : link
In comment 14388261 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 14388246 DanMetroMan said:


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has had 3 successful bunts in his professional career (including minors). Things like that are why Mickey is a very poor manager beyond what he says.



What's more perplexing is that deGrom was not available out of the bullpen and because he is a former shortstop you could butcher boy and other things with him. Would have been better to use him in that role and saved TdA for a more important position.


Great point. Look, I disagree STRONGLY with how much Mickey wants to bunt but if you want to lean on that you can't expect poor/inexperienced guys to do it well just because you practice it in ST. TDA has been a professional for 13 seasons, missed part of ST, lets just accept bunting with him isn't something you do.
Like  
DanMetroMan : 4/16/2019 9:28 am : link
I said, every game matters. You miss the playoffs by one game it could be decisions like this


Michael Mayer
@mikemayerMMO

36m
He was going to pitch Drew Gagnon against the Phillies 3-4-5 in a tie game instead of using Edwin Diaz.
It's often said pos. coaches in mlb are overrated - Mickey is proof  
Eric on Li : 4/16/2019 10:08 am : link
the reasons many liked his hire in the first place:

1. he was regarded as a "top pitching coach"
2. he was rumored to be more modern + more analytics oriented in his approach
3. there weren't many other appealing proven candidates, so he was perceived as an upside candidate
4. Francona vouched for him pretty strongly, Cleveland results seemed good

As it has turned out his handling of the pitching staff has been god awful almost top to bottom. Perhaps he deserves some level of credit for JDG finding another level and Wheeler's 2nd half. Or was the former already on track and the latter just finally stayed healthy? His "modern approach" has been inconsistent and downright random from his batting orders to his gaffes - from batting out of order, to saying Mcneil couldn't play 3rd, to saying he liked a flexible BP and now going back on that.

In the end what's taken for granted with MLB managers/coaches is that it seems like a simple job because it's an individual performance sport. Pitchers pitch well or they don't, hitters hit or they don't. Mickey's pitchers pitched well in Cleveland. But like everything experience matters and Callaway just doesn't seem to have enough experience to avoid making big mistakes on a very regular basis. That is the risk with any first time anything. A fatal flaw that can only be exposed once the lights are on. He could still improve but we haven't seen much progress from him yet - hopefully as time goes on Riggleman will be able to help him.
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DanMetroMan : 4/16/2019 10:20 am : link
I actually think bringing Gagnon in before Diaz is defensible  
Eric on Li : 4/16/2019 10:34 am : link
it's rolling the dice for sure, but you don't want to be stuck going multiple innings with Diaz, and if that's the case Gagnon has to pitch no matter what. So yes you'd prefer him vs. the bottom of the lineup, but it's not like you can avoid him altogether and the phillies still have a good bottom of the lineup so it's a matter of degree.

Not pitching Diaz in the 8th made no sense however. It would have made more sense to pitch him there and let Gsellman try for the save. That was the highest leverage situation of the season to this point. It was 1 out that may have meant a win or a loss in the standings.

Also I think it's kind of messed up the way they are willing to shuffle Familia into a new role with apparently little consideration to acknowledge trying to make that adjustment easier for him while at the same time being so rigid in how they use Diaz. Gammons had a good article on the athletic yesterday about how bad all bullpens around baseball have been so far this year and 1 of the quotes in it sort of jumped out to me:

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Youre always looking for elite guys, says Rizzo, but in todays game it is sometimes the case that a clean ninth inning is the easiest role. That guy knows what he has. Hes not getting up and down. Today, you have to have elite guys who pitch in situations, the way Andrew Miller has done so well. But even they can go through tough stretches. Look at Trevor Rosenthal for us. He has 121 career saves. He came off Tommy John surgery and is throwing 95 to 102 with and 88-94 mph slider. We thought and still think hell be an ideal guy getting us to Sean Doolittle. But the poor guy has taken time to feel comfortable again and went nearly three weeks without recording an out. Were confident hell get that feel back. But it shows that what you think is a strength when you leave spring training can have a rocky road.

You can basically sub the names "Familia" and "Diaz" in that sentence.
RE: It's often said pos. coaches in mlb are overrated - Mickey is proof  
giantsFC : 4/16/2019 10:38 am : link
In comment 14388318 Eric on Li said:
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the reasons many liked his hire in the first place:

1. he was regarded as a "top pitching coach"
2. he was rumored to be more modern + more analytics oriented in his approach
3. there weren't many other appealing proven candidates, so he was perceived as an upside candidate
4. Francona vouched for him pretty strongly, Cleveland results seemed good

As it has turned out his handling of the pitching staff has been god awful almost top to bottom. Perhaps he deserves some level of credit for JDG finding another level and Wheeler's 2nd half. Or was the former already on track and the latter just finally stayed healthy? His "modern approach" has been inconsistent and downright random from his batting orders to his gaffes - from batting out of order, to saying Mcneil couldn't play 3rd, to saying he liked a flexible BP and now going back on that.

In the end what's taken for granted with MLB managers/coaches is that it seems like a simple job because it's an individual performance sport. Pitchers pitch well or they don't, hitters hit or they don't. Mickey's pitchers pitched well in Cleveland. But like everything experience matters and Callaway just doesn't seem to have enough experience to avoid making big mistakes on a very regular basis. That is the risk with any first time anything. A fatal flaw that can only be exposed once the lights are on. He could still improve but we haven't seen much progress from him yet - hopefully as time goes on Riggleman will be able to help him.


Spot on.

Also from above post about Callaway saying they had to use Gagnon for 6 innings..didnt they have Vargas too? Guy only pitched .2 innings.
Callawayn says a lot of idiot things thst seems like he cant see ahead of their implications.

Or is he just this smart and fooling us all?
RE: RE: It's often said pos. coaches in mlb are overrated - Mickey is proof  
Eric on Li : 4/16/2019 10:41 am : link
In comment 14388358 giantsFC said:
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Or is he just this smart and fooling us all?

Don't think it's this.
Ok last night's shit show is behind us.  
ZGiants98 : 4/16/2019 10:53 am : link
New day and Matz has been pitching well. We are in first place in a tough division and have mostly played our division and have faced a lot of top pitching this year. This team also isnt close to firing on all cylinders. Most of our pitching should rebound eventually.

Some highlights and items to really be excited about. Jeff fucking McNeil and Edwin Diaz. McNeil is slick as hell at 3B. Might be why they are considering Davis out in LF. Speaking of Davis, while I expected him to hit lefties, he's hitting righties too. He also has a great approach. Nimmo is back! Conforto is red hot. I still feel like Cano isnt there but he's very close.

Lots of positives. Lets take 2 of 3 in this series on the road again.
After a shit start  
ZGiants98 : 4/16/2019 10:55 am : link
Nimmo's wRC+ is up to 127 already. uh... that was fast.
RE: After a shit start  
Metnut : 4/16/2019 11:07 am : link
In comment 14388386 ZGiants98 said:
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Nimmo's wRC+ is up to 127 already. uh... that was fast.


I'm still concerned by the Ks, but glad that the power is still showing in 2019. We really have some nice offensive depth.
RE: RE: After a shit start  
ZGiants98 : 4/16/2019 11:11 am : link
In comment 14388414 Metnut said:
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In comment 14388386 ZGiants98 said:


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Nimmo's wRC+ is up to 127 already. uh... that was fast.



I'm still concerned by the Ks, but glad that the power is still showing in 2019. We really have some nice offensive depth.


I mean... most guys K a lot in a slump. He can't erase them. They are what they are. At the end of the year they should average out and be around where he was last year. Seems like his approach is back now and he's walking and waiting for his pitches again and that's awesome for the Mets.
Some of the offense by our youngsters is absurd.  
ZGiants98 : 4/16/2019 11:16 am : link
Conforto wRC+ 158
Peter Alonso wRC+ 204
Jeff McNeil wRC+ 172
Dom Smith wRC+ 182
JD Davis wRC+ 155
Brandon Nimmo wRC+ 127

Rosario is struggling around 89 but thats not awful.
Im interested what we do with Davis  
CMicks3110 : 4/16/2019 11:19 am : link
In my mind, he should be playing everyday at 3B. He looks really good.
RE: Im interested what we do with Davis  
ZGiants98 : 4/16/2019 11:27 am : link
In comment 14388440 CMicks3110 said:
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In my mind, he should be playing everyday at 3B. He looks really good.


UZR and DRS are a mile apart right now. That's usually not the case as they both use the BIS system to calculate defense. Im going to need a bigger to sample to see where those normalize. If you looked at UZR, he's fine there. DRS? Disaster. Need a bigger sample.

Offensively? Yeah, he looks like a stud.
Frazier is going to mess things up  
ZGiants98 : 4/16/2019 11:29 am : link
Luckily, Mickey saying today Frazier, Davis, and McNeil will share playing time with the latter two both getting time in LF.

I can live with that if it means Lagares/Broxton are moving to the bench permanently.

Obviously as we learned  
pjcas18 : 4/16/2019 11:34 am : link
painfully last year, standings/record on April 16th is meaningless.

However, last year this time (in my mind at least) with the Mets fast start, just about everything went right. Especially the bullpen. Yes, some starters had slow starts, but for the most part everything went right wrt pitching.

This year, the Mets are in 1st place with the 2nd worst team ERA in the NL and not a lot has gone right (from a pitching standpoint).

the offense is doing fine, not unexpectedly fine, but they're doing fine. Some notorious slow starters started out slow, like Cano. and Lowrie hasn't made an appearance yet. But Alonso, McNeil, Conforto, etc. all good starts.


If the pitching straightens out there is a lot to be optimistic about. Because it's not like the offense is playing over their heads.

Yeah I don't think anybody's bragging about  
ZGiants98 : 4/16/2019 11:39 am : link
The Mets running away with the division because they are in first place by half a game in mid April... Like you said though, unlike last year, this team isnt close to playing at its best. Actually, the team strength heading in has been laughably and uncharacteristically bad. Definitely bodes well long term.
One surprising thing I wasn't expecting  
ZGiants98 : 4/16/2019 11:42 am : link
Ramos's defense has sucked. He may have a decent arm throwing out runners but he's been a lead balloon back there. He doesnt frame pitches well and he drops seemingly 5-10 pitches a night. Very frustrating

TDA, in comparison, looks much better IMO defensively. TDA always framed pitches well, but now after finally fixing his arm, he seems to be throwing better as well.

Very disappointed in Ramos though.
Jon Morosi  
ZGiants98 : 4/16/2019 11:54 am : link
Says Kimbrel is close to picking a team to sign with.
Well this got ugly  
dep026 : 4/16/2019 7:40 pm : link
Fast
Game over  
Rob in Rockaway : 4/16/2019 7:42 pm : link
Hockey time
The rotation forgot to get their Vargas vaccinations  
Jim in Fairfax : 4/17/2019 12:38 am : link
Now its too late. Hope they build an immunity fast.
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