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NFT: Mets at Phillies Game 1. Thor

ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 5:36 pm
Mets Lineup

Brandon Nimmo CF
Pete Alonso 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Michael Conforto RF
Wilson Ramos C
Jeff McNeil LF
Amed Rosario SS
J.D. Davis 3B
Noah Syndergaard RHP

Phillies Lineup

Andrew McCutchen LF
Jean Segura SS
Bryce Harper RF
Rhys Hoskins 1B
J.T. Realmuto C
Odubel Herrera CF
Cesar Hernandez SS
Maikel Franco 3B
Aaron Nola RHP

LGM!
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McSquirrel!!!!!  
ChaChing : 4/15/2019 10:25 pm : link
what a play
What is Mickey doing? Yank this bum.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 10:27 pm : link
Familia is just awful.
.  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:28 pm : link
Walks the PH  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 10:28 pm : link
who is batting .083. Geez Familia.
RE: What is Mickey doing? Yank this bum.  
ChaChing : 4/15/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14387954 PhiPsi125 said:
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Familia is just awful.

Yeah expected the move there

MC playing with fire from here
Come on Mickey  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 10:28 pm : link
Can’t give away these division games.
He cannot  
SJGiant : 4/15/2019 10:29 pm : link
Throw strikes. Yuk.
21 PITCHES  
CMicks3110 : 4/15/2019 10:29 pm : link
7 STRIKES JFC
Mickey sucks...  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:30 pm : link
Diaz should have been brought in. This is awful.
If you are a batter  
SJGiant : 4/15/2019 10:31 pm : link
Facing Familia, why swing?
Gsellman loses strike zone at times  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2019 10:34 pm : link
Why use him?
How the FUCK  
speedywheels : 4/15/2019 10:35 pm : link
Do you not bring in your closer?!
Mickey sucks, Familia sucks  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 10:36 pm : link
Every single game. Every single damn game.

Pitcher Whisperer my ass.
Kimbrel should be signed  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 10:36 pm : link
at this point. Can’t give away games like this. Familia is garbage and can’t be the 8th inning guy. Gsellman sucks too. Move Lugo to the rotation to replace Vargas. Sign Kimbrel as setup man.
Embarrassing  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:36 pm : link
On top of the Familia shit show Mickey is a complete buffoon.
RE: Gsellman loses strike zone at times  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:37 pm : link
In comment 14387966 Mike in NY said:
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Why use him?


Yeah Gsellman almost always walks the first batter and seems to get better as he settles in more. He should be in the rotation IMO. Sign Kimbrel.
Pitching Philosophy fail?  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 10:38 pm : link
Ok it’s one thing when 2-3 guys can’t pitch strikes, particularly first pitch.

BUT THE ENTIRE STAFF?

When do we realize it’s a coaching issue?

And/or if Diaz can’t pitch more than an inning, then they def need Kimbrell

Holy hell I haven’t seen a Mets staff this bad since the Anthony Young/Eric Hillman years
Thought Riggleman was  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 10:38 pm : link
brought in to help with in game decisions. How do you not use your closer with the game on the line there?
McNeil prob their best 3B  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 10:48 pm : link
Option

Can jd Davis play OF?
McNeil is awesome at 3B  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:50 pm : link
2B too. Underrated defensive infielder. Big time.
RE: McNeil prob their best 3B  
ChaChing : 4/15/2019 10:51 pm : link
In comment 14387983 giantsFC said:
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Option

Can jd Davis play OF?

They said today he's started taking fly balls fwiw. Who knows how soon that could happen even if they are committed to it. Tho Lowrie's return if not Frazier's will likely factor

Gsellman with a solid inning there
Man.  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:53 pm : link
Gsellman always seems to settle down after a hitter or two. Make him the 5th starter!
McNeil  
ChaChing : 4/15/2019 10:55 pm : link
still hit good too
Rosario was doing well for a little bit  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 10:58 pm : link
But I feel he quickly went into a slump and is lost right now. AWFUL.
The balls have got to be juiced this year  
CMicks3110 : 4/15/2019 10:58 pm : link
walks are on familia for sure; but some of these mets pitchers, and pitchers around the league as Z was alluding to, are just being hammered, no matter how hard they throw. Velocity doesn't give the advantage it once did. Location and pitch mix are now more important--look at Lugo tonight, control, good breaking pitches, he really should be in the rotation.
How is that a strike  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2019 11:00 pm : link
After Thor got squeezed?
HOW DO YOU NOT BUNT THERE!  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 11:00 pm : link
We all knew double play was coming.

God Callaway is an idiot. TC was boring and made some dumb mistakes but this guy is even worse.

Heck willlie Randolph would be better
Cannot wait for electronic strike zones  
ChaChing : 4/15/2019 11:00 pm : link
not holding my breath just yet but it's well beyond time
RE: The balls have got to be juiced this year  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 11:02 pm : link
In comment 14387994 CMicks3110 said:
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walks are on familia for sure; but some of these mets pitchers, and pitchers around the league as Z was alluding to, are just being hammered, no matter how hard they throw. Velocity doesn't give the advantage it once did. Location and pitch mix are now more important--look at Lugo tonight, control, good breaking pitches, he really should be in the rotation.


Hence why a guy like Dallas Keuchel May be good this year. Or Brett Sabrahagen comes out of retirement. He had some mad first pitch strike skills
RE: The balls have got to be juiced this year  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:03 pm : link
In comment 14387994 CMicks3110 said:
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walks are on familia for sure; but some of these mets pitchers, and pitchers around the league as Z was alluding to, are just being hammered, no matter how hard they throw. Velocity doesn't give the advantage it once did. Location and pitch mix are now more important--look at Lugo tonight, control, good breaking pitches, he really should be in the rotation.


Yeah I think a giveaway too is how hard the ball has been bouncing off the turf. Twice it just completely bounced over the 1B's head. That never happens and it happened to us twice in a week. Those balls are wound tight as hell.
Awful call on Dom  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:04 pm : link
Not surprised.
Why is Avilan in over  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:05 pm : link
Wilson?
Sorry, not buying the “juiced ball” excuse.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 11:05 pm : link
These guys can’t throw strikes, constantly walking guys and behind in the count. Then you have to players pitches to hit. They know it’s coming and they will get their hits. These balls aren’t being crushed all over the place. It’s piss poor execution and pitchers not performing. Simple as that.
lol. It's not an excuse.  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:07 pm : link
Just an observation. Works both ways. Mets are scoring runs at a historic rate to start the year. The ball does seem to be flying around a lot. OBVIOUSLY, the Mets have to pitch better.
I feel like Sandy hired Mickey to troll us  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2019 11:07 pm : link
I really never thought I'd miss Collins, but here we are.
Does Riggleman do anything?  
moespree : 4/15/2019 11:08 pm : link
Wasn't he hired to ensure Mickey stopped doing stupid things every single day?
OH  
CMicks3110 : 4/15/2019 11:08 pm : link
the walks are totally on the pitchers; my sense is they are nibbling, knowing they can't throw it down the center. There is going to be some major adjustments needed by a lot of these pitchers.
I am really starting to fucking hate Mickey  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:08 pm : link
Why is Avilan constantly brought in to face righties? If you don't want a LOOGY on your team than don't have one!
So, you constantly talk about how stacked the Mets offense is  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 11:10 pm : link
which is clearly going to translate to more runs. But now it’s because the baseballls are juiced? Which is it?
Nibble Nibble  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 11:12 pm : link
Nibble. Too many walks and pitching behind in the count. Bullpen needs to be better.
RE: So, you constantly talk about how stacked the Mets offense is  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:12 pm : link
In comment 14388013 PhiPsi125 said:
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which is clearly going to translate to more runs. But now it’s because the baseballls are juiced? Which is it?


How stacked it is? I like our offense. I think I said top 5 in the NL. I don't know about stacked. Maybe when Lowrie and Cespedes come back it will be.

So I can't make an observation that the ball seems to be flying around more this year? Just about every ace in baseball has been hit hard. Our entire division's bullpens have been shredded. And yes offensively, we are on a record pace. Did I say this would the best offense of all time? Because thats what we are on pace to be.
enough of Callaway  
fanofthejets : 4/15/2019 11:13 pm : link
Callaway is not an intelligent person. Not having Diaz in there to pitch to Segura with the bases loaded and allowing Gsellman to walk a run in is inexcusable. Callaway is costing us games. How the heck do you not go to your closer there. He should've been warming as soon as Familia came in because there was an almost 100% chance Familia was going into gutless choke mode. Which he did
And no  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:14 pm : link
Im not saying it's just because of juiced balls. Clearly, the pitchers are still struggling and clearly offensive players are still doing well.

Just think it might be contributing to some of this.
RE: I am really starting to fucking hate Mickey  
fanofthejets : 4/15/2019 11:15 pm : link
In comment 14388011 ZGiants98 said:
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Why is Avilan constantly brought in to face righties? If you don't want a LOOGY on your team than don't have one!


Callaways staggering idiocy was on display last year as well. I mean he was so bad you could've made a strong case for him not even lasting his first year. He is not capable of thinking ahead or understanding baseball

I think BVW sees this. I pray he is given the green light from the Wilpons to can this shit
Its a joke we got out of that  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:16 pm : link
Thanks Segura!
RE: RE: I am really starting to fucking hate Mickey  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:17 pm : link
In comment 14388025 fanofthejets said:
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In comment 14388011 ZGiants98 said:


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Why is Avilan constantly brought in to face righties? If you don't want a LOOGY on your team than don't have one!



Callaways staggering idiocy was on display last year as well. I mean he was so bad you could've made a strong case for him not even lasting his first year. He is not capable of thinking ahead or understanding baseball

I think BVW sees this. I pray he is given the green light from the Wilpons to can this shit


Oh I agree. Mickey sucks ass.
Lagares gets on to start the 11th  
fanofthejets : 4/15/2019 11:19 pm : link
must stay out of the DP here.
and Mr. Double Play Travis d'Arnaud is on deck  
fanofthejets : 4/15/2019 11:20 pm : link
ugh. It almost looks like he tries to pull the ball to the shortstop sometimes
Ebbs and flows, right? Clearly the Mets offense isn’t going to keep  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 11:21 pm : link
this pace. I just don’t believe that the balls are juiced.

What I see is pitchers that can’t throw strikes, walk the ballpark, constantly behind in the count and giving players fat pitches to hit. It’s pretty basic.

Now, sure, I guess the balls could be juiced. But that’s not the reason (I see) for our pitching woes. It’s the inability to throw strikes.
I will always LOVE watching Nimmo sprint to first on walks  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2019 11:23 pm : link
Lol
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