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NFT: Mets at Phillies Game 1. Thor

ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 5:36 pm
Mets Lineup

Brandon Nimmo CF
Pete Alonso 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Michael Conforto RF
Wilson Ramos C
Jeff McNeil LF
Amed Rosario SS
J.D. Davis 3B
Noah Syndergaard RHP

Phillies Lineup

Andrew McCutchen LF
Jean Segura SS
Bryce Harper RF
Rhys Hoskins 1B
J.T. Realmuto C
Odubel Herrera CF
Cesar Hernandez SS
Maikel Franco 3B
Aaron Nola RHP

LGM!
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GOTTA BUNT  
CMicks3110 : 4/15/2019 11:23 pm : link
HERE
Why use TdA to bunt  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2019 11:24 pm : link
When you have Matz or deGrom who could butcher boy?
RE: Ebbs and flows, right? Clearly the Mets offense isn’t going to keep  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:24 pm : link
In comment 14388030 PhiPsi125 said:
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this pace. I just don’t believe that the balls are juiced.

What I see is pitchers that can’t throw strikes, walk the ballpark, constantly behind in the count and giving players fat pitches to hit. It’s pretty basic.

Now, sure, I guess the balls could be juiced. But that’s not the reason (I see) for our pitching woes. It’s the inability to throw strikes.


Im not disagreeing with any of that.
Come inn d’Arnaud  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 11:24 pm : link
Gotta get a bunt down. Gee whiz.
JFC  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:25 pm : link
I hate this game. Even if we win Im going to be pissed. lol
What a waste  
nygfaninorlando : 4/15/2019 11:25 pm : link
Infield fly. Great job
RE: Come inn d’Arnaud  
fanofthejets : 4/15/2019 11:26 pm : link
In comment 14388036 nygfaninorlando said:
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Gotta get a bunt down. Gee whiz.


back to back PERFECT pitches to bunt

What a wasted career. Yea not all of it was his fault...but he's pretty brittle. Injury after injury. As soon as he gets anything going at the plate during any year you just know a 60 day DL stint with setbacks is right around the corner.
non competitive AB by Cano there  
fanofthejets : 4/15/2019 11:27 pm : link
Expected better. Man this is going to be a bitter loss. But I can deal with it if it is one step towards Callaway no longer managing us

1st and 2nd 0 outs and the Mets go hyper gutless
Conforto!!  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:29 pm : link
NICE!
God Hoskins makes Ryan Howard  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 11:31 pm : link
Look like Keith Hernandez at first.

Of course Kaplers pet has to play 2nd every game instead of Kingery who’s a better player.

Fuck Kapler.
Hoskins looked like he was getting tea bagged  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2019 11:31 pm : link
that's a pretty awful defensive play. Now watch Mickey double switch Ramos out of the game and lose on a Darnaud defensive miscue.
RE: God Hoskins makes Ryan Howard  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2019 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14388042 dep026 said:
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Look like Keith Hernandez at first.

Of course Kaplers pet has to play 2nd every game instead of Kingery who’s a better player.

Fuck Kapler.


Callaway for Kapler straight up, who says no?
RE: Come inn d’Arnaud  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2019 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14388036 nygfaninorlando said:
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Gotta get a bunt down. Gee whiz.


the guy has had three sac bunts in 7 years. It's a low percentage play to begin with, then you waste your bench bat asking a guy to do something he doesn't usually do? it's on Mickey as much as on TDA

RE: RE: Come inn d’Arnaud  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2019 11:33 pm : link
In comment 14388045 pjcas18 said:
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Gotta get a bunt down. Gee whiz.



the guy has had three sac bunts in 7 years. It's a low percentage play to begin with, then you waste your bench bat asking a guy to do something he doesn't usually do? it's on Mickey as much as on TDA


yes. Mickey is the worst. Seriously just bring Collins back. He's still in the org isn't he?
Thank you Conforto  
Chris684 : 4/15/2019 11:33 pm : link
I was over TDA 2 seasons ago. Guy is just not a good player.

Come on Diaz
RE: RE: God Hoskins makes Ryan Howard  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 11:33 pm : link
In comment 14388044 Eric on Li said:
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Look like Keith Hernandez at first.

Of course Kaplers pet has to play 2nd every game instead of Kingery who’s a better player.

Fuck Kapler.



Callaway for Kapler straight up, who says no?


Mets
Ok Diaz..  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:34 pm : link
This is what we traded Kelenic for. Do your job.
this is the best Diaz has looked  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2019 11:35 pm : link
damn impressive.
RE: RE: RE: Come inn d’Arnaud  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2019 11:35 pm : link
In comment 14388046 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 14388036 nygfaninorlando said:


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Gotta get a bunt down. Gee whiz.



the guy has had three sac bunts in 7 years. It's a low percentage play to begin with, then you waste your bench bat asking a guy to do something he doesn't usually do? it's on Mickey as much as on TDA




yes. Mickey is the worst. Seriously just bring Collins back. He's still in the org isn't he?



funny thing about Mickey is I could have sworn in the Mets manager search threads people loved the guy and were dead set the Mets wouldn't select him for the job b/c they were going to go with an old retread.

now, everyone hates him.

And I'm not saying people shouldn't hate him, just one of those be careful what you wish for things.

Maybe it was just based on the other names floated, but at least that's how it seemed to me.
Great game Rhys  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 11:36 pm : link
Mets best player tonight.
Filthy!!  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:36 pm : link
Damn.
As long as Kapler is the Phillies manager  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 11:37 pm : link
They will never be a threat. By far and away the worst manager in sports. It’s not even close.
Books.  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:37 pm : link
Now that's a fucking closer. Enjoy Seattle Kelenic!!
RE: RE: RE: RE: Come inn d’Arnaud  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2019 11:38 pm : link
In comment 14388051 pjcas18 said:
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funny thing about Mickey is I could have sworn in the Mets manager search threads people loved the guy and were dead set the Mets wouldn't select him for the job b/c they were going to go with an old retread.

now, everyone hates him.

And I'm not saying people shouldn't hate him, just one of those be careful what you wish for things.

Maybe it was just based on the other names floated, but at least that's how it seemed to me.


That's 100% correct - myself included. He was the young/hot name vs. whoever the other guys were with previous experience. But sometimes those guys end up just totally in over their heads and he seems to fit into that category.
This game put me in a crappy mood  
Chris684 : 4/15/2019 11:38 pm : link
But ended on a high note with Diaz. He is a stud.
We couldn't use that dominance  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:38 pm : link
in the 8th inning for one out?? Save us all an extra hour of sleep? lol
Well, score a win in SPITE of Mickey  
speedywheels : 4/15/2019 11:38 pm : link
Especially a division one...
RE: As long as Kapler is the Phillies manager  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 11:38 pm : link
In comment 14388057 dep026 said:
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They will never be a threat. By far and away the worst manager in sports. It’s not even close.


Mickey Callaway: “hold my bee..*drops beer during transition*
Good win.  
madgiantscow009 : 4/15/2019 11:39 pm : link
Got home just in time.
RE: RE: As long as Kapler is the Phillies manager  
dep026 : 4/15/2019 11:39 pm : link
In comment 14388063 giantsFC said:
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They will never be a threat. By far and away the worst manager in sports. It’s not even close.



Mickey Callaway: “hold my bee..*drops beer during transition*


It’s not even close. I’ll throw in our top prospect if it meant you took Kapler.
Familia needs to figure his shit out.  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:40 pm : link
ASAP.
RE: and Mr. Double Play Travis d'Arnaud is on deck  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 11:41 pm : link
In comment 14388029 fanofthejets said:
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ugh. It almost looks like he tries to pull the ball to the shortstop sometimes


I’m cracking up
RE: Familia needs to figure his shit out.  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 11:43 pm : link
In comment 14388068 ZGiants98 said:
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ASAP.


He seems past his prime. Hopefully he can reinvent himself like so many good relievers do. It’s such a an up and down position year to year.

Isn’t Swartzyk doing ok in Seattle this year?
RE: RE: RE: As long as Kapler is the Phillies manager  
giantsFC : 4/15/2019 11:44 pm : link
In comment 14388067 dep026 said:
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They will never be a threat. By far and away the worst manager in sports. It’s not even close.



Mickey Callaway: “hold my bee..*drops beer during transition*



It’s not even close. I’ll throw in our top prospect if it meant you took Kapler.


Both teams weak link is their manager. Scary times.
RE: RE: Familia needs to figure his shit out.  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:47 pm : link
In comment 14388070 giantsFC said:
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ASAP.



He seems past his prime. Hopefully he can reinvent himself like so many good relievers do. It’s such a an up and down position year to year.

Isn’t Swartzyk doing ok in Seattle this year?


I thought Swarzak was hurt. Familia is still throwing 97s up there. The stuff is there. He just has not control of his pitches. We've seen this from him before for stretches but it's really really really bad right now. He can't locate shit.
I'm w/ yalls on Diaz  
ChaChing : 4/15/2019 11:47 pm : link
But right or wrong they said today & a few times this season he always started clean innings for 3 outs for SEA and NYM would follow suit

Given that, it's my further question about Kimbrel, as I've read he's used the same. If so is he an option esp at a high $? That's if he's open to a non-closer role, as they'd be walking back some conversations they had w/ Diaz to this point you'd think...
Actually maybe not  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:48 pm : link
4 innings for Swarzak 0 ERA. Im sure he's going to have a fine year in Seattle actually. He was an injured mess last year.
RE: I'm w/ yalls on Diaz  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2019 11:49 pm : link
In comment 14388074 ChaChing said:
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But right or wrong they said today & a few times this season he always started clean innings for 3 outs for SEA and NYM would follow suit

Given that, it's my further question about Kimbrel, as I've read he's used the same. If so is he an option esp at a high $? That's if he's open to a non-closer role, as they'd be walking back some conversations they had w/ Diaz to this point you'd think...


Yeah that's the biggest question for me. Is Kimbrel coming here to be a SU guy? Not sure he would even go for that.
So apparently Mickey just said no 4 out saves this season  
moespree : 4/16/2019 12:02 am : link
He said Diaz won't ever pitch more than three outs according to DiComo.
RE: and Mr. Double Play Travis d'Arnaud is on deck  
madgiantscow009 : 4/16/2019 12:04 am : link
In comment 14388029 fanofthejets said:
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ugh. It almost looks like he tries to pull the ball to the shortstop sometimes


it is human nature to aim projectiles at things. travis has strong hunting instincts.
RE: So apparently Mickey just said no 4 out saves this season  
ChaChing : 4/16/2019 12:16 am : link
In comment 14388082 moespree said:
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He said Diaz won't ever pitch more than three outs according to DiComo.

I wonder if this was on Diaz or his agent's insistence (if not part of his contract?). Last year especially, Mickey talked about versatility and the ability for pitchers to go multiple innings. But now w/ Diaz that's not even an option

Still I would consider bringing Diaz in the 8th case by case, vs the heart of the lineup for example then trotting out Familia or another RP in the 9th even w/ ED limited to 3 outs. If they aren't bringing in reinforcements, the only short term option is more efficient usage with what's available. Not sure this would have helped yet this season, but hopefully MC has it in his arsenal
RE: So apparently Mickey just said no 4 out saves this season  
Vanzetti : 4/16/2019 12:25 am : link
In comment 14388082 moespree said:
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He said Diaz won't ever pitch more than three outs according to DiComo.


Mickey says a lot of things and then does the opposite.

He also makes claims he later contradicts.

So, I would not put much stock in anything he says. Maybe he'll use Avilan for a four out save.
Familia's work lately is disturbing  
allstarjim : 4/16/2019 1:22 am : link
Again, once again...behind in the count throwing off+speed shit. Are you a junk ball pitcher or a power pitcher? Throw the fastball, get strikes, get ahead in the count. If you give up a homerun so be it. But what he's doing now isn't serving him well.
RE: RE: So apparently Mickey just said no 4 out saves this season  
giantsFC : 4/16/2019 2:15 am : link
In comment 14388089 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 14388082 moespree said:


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He said Diaz won't ever pitch more than three outs according to DiComo.



Mickey says a lot of things and then does the opposite.

He also makes claims he later contradicts.

So, I would not put much stock in anything he says. Maybe he'll use Avilan for a four out save.


So true about Callaway
A little added info postgame:  
ChaChing : 4/16/2019 3:16 am : link
Article 1: JDG not tipping pitches
- JDG has been battling sickness for about a week
- JD Davis will begin taking fly balls in LF

Article 2: Game Review
- Diaz says he's ready for whatever they need even if 3+ outs. MC, Eiland & BVW all parrot the idea this is what he did b4 so they will keep to it for now. Fwiw MC says if it were the playoffs it'd be different...
The morning obligation  
dep026 : 4/16/2019 7:11 am : link
Kapler fucking sucks.
Familia has  
Ron Johnson : 4/16/2019 7:42 am : link
No idea where the ball is going.
That’s a tough one to figure out.
Really  
DanMetroMan : 4/16/2019 8:17 am : link
dislike this announcement Diaz will never appear in 4 out save situations. Seidler makes a great point... what happens if "God forbid" you make the playoffs or need 1 game to make the playoffs? put him in a situation where he hasn't done it all year (aka pitch, cool off and then pitch again)? Dumb
I thought the whole Callaway appeal  
pjcas18 : 4/16/2019 8:20 am : link
was he wasn't going to live by rigid bullpen roles and the best pitcher comes in to face the other teams best hitter in the right situation and roles were more fluid

Seems like a lot of people were fooled by the appeal of Callaway.
RE: Really  
Ira : 4/16/2019 8:26 am : link
In comment 14388189 DanMetroMan said:
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dislike this announcement Diaz will never appear in 4 out save situations. Seidler makes a great point... what happens if "God forbid" you make the playoffs or need 1 game to make the playoffs? put him in a situation where he hasn't done it all year (aka pitch, cool off and then pitch again)? Dumb


Well they did say that if it were the playoffs, it would be different. I have to think that if we were close to making the playoffs and there was a 4 out save situation, they'd revisit that decision. What you do in mid April isn't necessarily what you do in late August or September.
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