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NGT: Russell Wilson New Deal

Mike from SI : 4/16/2019 4:29 am
Per Shefter:
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Russell Wilson and the Seahawks reached agreement on a 4-year, $140 million in new money extension that includes a $65 million signing bonus, per source.

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We can put that to rest now  
Giantology : 4/16/2019 4:34 am : link
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And it includes a 'No Trade' clause  
Beer Man : 4/16/2019 6:20 am : link
so put that to bed as well
Only 35 mil per year  
ZogZerg : 4/16/2019 6:20 am : link
Seattle got a deal;)

Yes, that's one BS rumor we can put to rest.

Many Giants fans will be waking up to this news like  
Diver_Down : 4/16/2019 6:29 am : link
RE: Only 35 mil per year  
Milton : 4/16/2019 6:33 am : link
In comment 14388117 ZogZerg said:
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Yes, that's one BS rumor we can put to rest.
It was never even a rumor, that's what I find so annoying. It was just some idiot speculation that got passed around as if it had substance to it. One guy in the media speculates just for the clicks and the rest of the media picks up on it and before you know it they're calling it a rumor. No sources, just speculation, but somehow it's a rumor.
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RE: Many Giants fans will be waking up to this news like  
JCin332 : 4/16/2019 6:34 am : link
In comment 14388122 Diver_Down said:
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Lmao...
Yep... he really wanted NY  
dep026 : 4/16/2019 6:38 am : link
Or he really wanted a lot of money.
More like...  
Milton : 4/16/2019 6:45 am : link
Or....  
Milton : 4/16/2019 6:47 am : link
Good for him.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/16/2019 6:55 am : link
And now we can stop the Wilson threads.
If he gets hurt  
Chip : 4/16/2019 7:15 am : link
Seattle is screwed. The dead money makes him uncuttable.
RE: And it includes a 'No Trade' clause  
ron mexico : 4/16/2019 7:22 am : link
In comment 14388116 Beer Man said:
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so put that to bed as well


Not that I think it's going to happen, but a no trade clause just gives the player veto ability. If the team and the player want a trade to happen, you can still trade a guy with a ntc
One less insane tangent.  
Giant John : 4/16/2019 7:25 am : link
Draft can’t come soon enough.
I tend to believe Seattle will not win another Super Bowl  
George from PA : 4/16/2019 7:33 am : link
With that kind of anchor of a salary for one person
RE: Yep... he really wanted NY  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/16/2019 7:44 am : link
In comment 14388126 dep026 said:
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Or he really wanted a lot of money.


No way. It’s about money? Shocked.
Thank god  
superspynyg : 4/16/2019 7:45 am : link
I did not want to mortgage our future for 1 player.

Even if it is Russell Wilson.

RE: RE: Only 35 mil per year  
ZogZerg : 4/16/2019 7:48 am : link
In comment 14388123 Milton said:
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It was never even a rumor, that's what I find so annoying. It was just some idiot speculation that got passed around as if it had substance to it. One guy in the media speculates just for the clicks and the rest of the media picks up on it and before you know it they're calling it a rumor. No sources, just speculation, but somehow it's a rumor.


Well there was the tweet from the player and the Mock draft from CBS sports. So, some dopes were running wild with it;).
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Thank goodness  
Big Blue '56 : 4/16/2019 7:59 am : link
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RE: RE: RE: Only 35 mil per year  
bigbluehoya : 4/16/2019 8:05 am : link
In comment 14388160 ZogZerg said:
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In comment 14388123 Milton said:


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It was never even a rumor, that's what I find so annoying. It was just some idiot speculation that got passed around as if it had substance to it. One guy in the media speculates just for the clicks and the rest of the media picks up on it and before you know it they're calling it a rumor. No sources, just speculation, but somehow it's a rumor.



Well there was the tweet from the player and the Mock draft from CBS sports. So, some dopes were running wild with it;). Stupid Mock Draft - ( New Window )


When we give dopes clicks and help dopes get more clicks, the dopes win.
As fun as it would be for Wilson to be a Giant  
Heisenberg : 4/16/2019 8:11 am : link
I'm honestly relieved.

This would have been like the Carmelo Deal for the Knicks where you trade the assets and give huge $$$ to one guy and decimate the roster around him. Between the cap and the loss of picks, it would have been hard to make the roster good enough around Russ. It'd be like the current team but with better QB play, and that's not a real contender, IMO.
Francesa said yesterday  
Chris684 : 4/16/2019 8:17 am : link
He knew that Seattle wanted “to go back to the model they won with” cheap QB on a rookie deal and loaded defense.

Guess not.
I guess that Eli isn't so expensive at only $17M out of pocket  
yatqb : 4/16/2019 8:24 am : link
and pro-rated bonus taking it to $23M.
RE: Francesa said yesterday  
Tuckrule : 4/16/2019 8:34 am : link
In comment 14388188 Chris684 said:
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He knew that Seattle wanted “to go back to the model they won with” cheap QB on a rookie deal and loaded defense.

Guess not.


That’s how most teams achieve success now in the nfl. eagles, rams, chargers and Seahawks of years past. The only outliers are obv the pats.
^^^  
Tuckrule : 4/16/2019 8:34 am : link
Chiefs not chargers
Brings to mind  
NikkiMac : 4/16/2019 8:35 am : link
George Young old saying “When they tell you it’s not about the money , it’s about the money” ........
I am glad he is not coming to NY.  
GiantsUA : 4/16/2019 8:40 am : link
Too small and as he ages and takes punishment his wheels will not be what they once were.
RE: I am glad he is not coming to NY.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/16/2019 9:01 am : link
In comment 14388216 GiantsUA said:
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Too small


lol

He's been outstanding since the day he entered the league. He's been the only thing keeping that franchise afloat since their defense broke down. Enough with the too small nonsense.
This is why I don't get it when people get so hung up on QB money....  
Britt in VA : 4/16/2019 9:20 am : link
So and so has made x amount of money, highest paid, yada yada yada....

Somebody's only the highest paid until the next guy is up. And as guys like Kirk Cousins have shown, it really isn't commensurate to talent level/experience.
If you have a QB worth signing to second contract...  
Britt in VA : 4/16/2019 9:21 am : link
you're going to have to pay the piper.
RE: I am glad he is not coming to NY.  
arcarsenal : 4/16/2019 9:24 am : link
In comment 14388216 GiantsUA said:
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Too small and as he ages and takes punishment his wheels will not be what they once were.


Spoken like someone who has somehow never actually watched Russell Wilson play....
Glad  
AcidTest : 4/16/2019 9:26 am : link
it's done. Great player, but didn't want him here.
RE: RE: I am glad he is not coming to NY.  
dep026 : 4/16/2019 9:28 am : link
In comment 14388233 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14388216 GiantsUA said:


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Too small



lol

He's been outstanding since the day he entered the league. He's been the only thing keeping that franchise afloat since their defense broke down. Enough with the too small nonsense.


Their defense broke down? The last two year they were ranked 11 and 13 in points allowed. You know that’s above average right?
Honestly, we can't afford a Russell Wilson right now, IMO....  
Britt in VA : 4/16/2019 9:28 am : link
we really need to find our guy in the draft in order to take advantage of that 5 years of QB salary relief.
Good  
Harvest Blend : 4/16/2019 9:33 am : link
.

Be it this year or next, IF the Giants hit on the right QB in the draft, they'll be ready to go.
Oh  
Harvest Blend : 4/16/2019 9:34 am : link
assuming Shurmur can get his head out of his ass on game day.
I doubt RW was in play for NYG  
JonC : 4/16/2019 9:36 am : link
more likely his agent just using the Giants to try and create some leverage.
RE: Good for him.  
Brown Recluse : 4/16/2019 9:40 am : link
In comment 14388131 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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And now we can stop the Wilson threads.


The idea that he was ever going to come here was asinine to begin with.

Every year we talk about how the media runs rampant with these stupid rumors and yet we still believe everything we hear no matter how illogical they are.
RE: I tend to believe Seattle will not win another Super Bowl  
djm : 4/16/2019 9:55 am : link
In comment 14388151 George from PA said:
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With that kind of anchor of a salary for one person


That’s an unfair stance. It’s hard to win a super bowl. If Seattle fails to win one these next five years but wins 10 games plus every year you don’t just get to run around and say I told you so. The objective is to compete every year. Seattle will do that and more. Are you going to acknowledge that this deal was terrific if Seattle remains relevant these next few seasons?

Certain  
Thegratefulhead : 4/16/2019 9:56 am : link
We can be sure he was not signed to be traded.
Actually a pretty fair contract...  
bw in dc : 4/16/2019 10:03 am : link
especially the duration of just four years. I would have predicted Wilson’s team wanted at least seven. So nice win for Seattle.

RE: As fun as it would be for Wilson to be a Giant  
djm : 4/16/2019 10:08 am : link
In comment 14388184 Heisenberg said:
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I'm honestly relieved.

This would have been like the Carmelo Deal for the Knicks where you trade the assets and give huge $$$ to one guy and decimate the roster around him. Between the cap and the loss of picks, it would have been hard to make the roster good enough around Russ. It'd be like the current team but with better QB play, and that's not a real contender, IMO.


Fair take. I love Wilson more than anyone but trading all that capital and then spending all that money wound have been tough on the giants overall plan here. I’d probably do it, reluctantly, but the giants are better off staying the course and building through the draft. And let’s be honest, history tends to repeat itself and the giants have been rewarded when they build via the slow and steady model. Do what you do best, NY Giants. Draft well.
RE: Actually a pretty fair contract...  
AcesUp : 4/16/2019 10:12 am : link
In comment 14388315 bw in dc said:
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especially the duration of just four years. I would have predicted Wilson’s team wanted at least seven. So nice win for Seattle.


The opposite actually, players and specifically QBs are starting to push for shorter term deals, as they should. Short of a game changing deal that would tie the QBs salary to a % of the cap, it's the only way to keep up with market inflation. I wouldn't be surprised if the sticking point was Seattle pushing for 5 years.
I don't get the criticism  
UConn4523 : 4/16/2019 10:15 am : link
when isn't it about the money? I have no doubt that he would also love to play in NY so can't it be both?
RE: RE: I am glad he is not coming to NY.  
islander1 : 4/16/2019 10:31 am : link
In comment 14388233 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14388216 GiantsUA said:


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Too small



lol

He's been outstanding since the day he entered the league. He's been the only thing keeping that franchise afloat since their defense broke down. Enough with the too small nonsense.


Seriously. I've never seen a guy get so grossly underrated. I'd have been fine with him coming here for 4 years at that term. Main issue would've been what to do with Eli.

He's a top 5 quarterback. He's a winner. Teams go years trying to get a QB like that. This moneyball concept is great until you realize QB's are more likely to bust then succeed.
Can you imagine if Eli had thrown an interception in the last seconds  
arniefez : 4/16/2019 10:36 am : link
at the goal line to lose the Super Bowl? It would be discussed everyday by every national and local and fan outlet. But Wilson gets a free pass. Eli would have either seen the guy jump the play or changed the play and won the game. You can keep Russell Wilson especially on that contract. The Seahawks won with great defense and rookie contract QB. Hopefully the Giants build an excellent OL and DL and draft a rookie QB who they can win with this year or next year.
Eli  
djstat : 4/16/2019 10:55 am : link
Looks like a bargain
Eli a bargain compared to this?  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/16/2019 11:05 am : link
I'd rather have Russell at 35 million than Eli at 23. Russell is an elite QB that can make up for roster deficiencies. Eli isn't that guy. What does 12 mill a year get you? Nate Solder. Russell can make up for having a subpar offensive line and has the last few years. The reason they ran the ball a billion times last year was because their offensive line was horrific at pass blocking and at least okay at run blocking. I don't think I would have traded for him though unless the price was 2 firsts or less. If you are going to pay your QB that type of money you are going to need some cheap talent around him.
Can you explain what roster  
dep026 : 4/16/2019 11:09 am : link
Deficiencies the Seahawks have?
Poor Russell  
dep026 : 4/16/2019 11:13 am : link
He’s had one of the best run games in the NFL since he came into the league, at WORST... an above average defense. A pro bowl WR and one of the best coaches in the game.

Such adversity.
Well deserved, great QB.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/16/2019 11:15 am : link
But it's time to find our guy in the draft. Not that 30 is super old, but we need to hit the reset button and start over.
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