Just moving this off the AV thread started by Anakim to right size it to a NYR NFT.
Starting with news not reported in that thread:
| The Rangers also fired Hartford coach Keith McCambridge and assistant Joe Mormina on Monday. The Wolfpack finished last in the AHL’s Atlantic Division with a 29-36-7-4 record. |
What role, if any, implicit or otherwise, did Quinn have in this decision? Could he have made known disagreements in approach, tenor?
Sheesh, you'd think Carpiniello could at least spell his name correctly.
Igor& #8203; Shesterkin,& #8203; the goalie& #8203; long& #8203;& #8203; considered the heir apparent to Henrik Lundqvist, and forward Vitali Kravtsov, the first-round (No. 9 overall) pick in last June’s draft, both agreed to their standard three-year contracts.
The deals cannot be officially signed, registered with the league or announced until after their KHL contracts expire May 1. But both players — who played in the Russian league this season — are expected to arrive in North America in late May and would then be in Rangers’ prospects camp after the June 21-22 draft, as well as NHL training camp in September. |
On Shesty, the eye-popping stats and the inevitable questions to be resolved over the coming 18 months:
Shesterkin’s arrival will force the Rangers to make some difficult decisions. The 23-year-old had a sparking season for SKA in the top Russian league, where he went 24-3-1 with 10 shutouts, a 1.11 goals-against average (second-best in KHL history) and a .953 save percentage (tied for the second best in KHL history) during the regular season.
The addition of the Rangers’ fourth-round pick (118th overall) in the 2014 draft will make for a crowd. He’ll be added to a team that includes Alexandar Georgiev, who had a stellar first full NHL season, and of course the incumbent 37-year-old Lundqvist, who struggled with the rebuild and the porous team in front of him. Lundqvist has two years left, at an $8.5 million annual cap hit, on his contract, with a no-move clause.
It is entirely possible that Shesterkin will need some time adjusting to the North American game – not to mention the size of the rinks, the language and the culture in a new country – and could start the season in Hartford (AHL). But if he does and performs at a high level, the Rangers will have to figure out who plays where and if they have to make a trade. Do they deal Georgiev, whose stock rose dramatically? It’s virtually impossible to move Lundqvist’s contract at his age and expect to get a worthy return.
Once upon a time, it wasn’t unreasonable for an NHL team to carry three goalies. That’s no longer logical to any degree, especially with one of them being Lundqvist, whose game thrives when he plays a lot and obviously suffered this season when he did not. |
Vitaly, sheesh, just 19, Quinn is going to think he's back coaching a college team:
| Kravtsov, 19, is another story. He will also deal with an adjustment period for all the same reasons, in addition to being very young. But there’s an excellent chance Kravtsov can make the NHL team quickly, if not immediately. The Rangers desperately need high-end skill and Kravtsov has that – he wowed scouts and spectators during the World Juniors in Vancouver last winter. He had eight goals and 13 assists in 50 games for Traktor during the KHL season, and two goals and four assists in seven games at the World Juniors, where he played with both an injury and the flu and played center out of need. He also had six goals and 16 points in 16 games in international Under-20 competition. |
I don't know anything about goalie styles.
Also, the NHL and NHLPA could opt out this September.
It already has been. Take a look at JT's contract with Toronto. Top players are asking for their money upfront in signing bonuses. This makes the contracts "lockout proof." Tavares got more than $70 million of his $77 million deal in bonus money.
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What's the chances of landing Panerin?
Not understanding the question on Coach Q? Are you asking if Panarin will sign in florida now because his former coach who may have been involved in trading him away for Brandon Saad is there now?
Money talks. None of the other shit matters.
Good chance. Rumor is Panarin has said he wants to play in NY, Florida, or LA. And apparently Q was furious they traded him from Chicago, he and the GM were at odds for a while. I think Florida would be the betting favorite right now to land he and Bobrovsky
Random thoughts
https://twitter.com/JoeFortunatoBSB/status/1118575610878623745
And to suggest it would cost Pettersson plus a combination of more 1st round picks? this would be the equivalent of the Hershel Walker or Ricky Williams trades in how bad it is.
Are the Canucks really that desperate to reunite the Hughes Bros?
Are the Canucks really that desperate to reunite the Hughes Bros?
Gorton would accept this before they finish the offer and phone in paperwork to the league.
I doubt Vancouver has any desire to do this.
otherwise if there is any legs I suspect it would more fairly be Pettersson for #2 and additional 1sts from the Rangers to the Canucks.
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Gorton seriously considers that. Supposedly the Rangers really wanted Pettersson in the 2017 Draft and assumed he'd be there at 7.
Are the Canucks really that desperate to reunite the Hughes Bros?
Gorton would accept this before they finish the offer and phone in paperwork to the league.
I doubt Vancouver has any desire to do this.
otherwise if there is any legs I suspect it would more fairly be Pettersson for #2 and additional 1sts from the Rangers to the Canucks.
Well thats just silly nonsense. I get that you dont care for the Rangers, but Pettersson is worth a number overall 2 (in a year where that pick gets you a franchise player) plus additional likely lottery 1st rounders?
Like I said, silly nonsense.
It's hard to project 17/18 year old kids.
Why did Nail Yakupov go #1 and he's in the KHL now?
If that draft happens today, #3 (Heiskanen), #4 (Makar) and #5 (Pettersson) all go before Hischier and Patrick.
An example of draft crapshoot is why would Nikita Kucherov go in the 2nd round? He's about to win a Hart trophy and already took the Ross trophy. And it's not like he was some terribly late bloomer, it's just hard to project some players.
So, while on draft day, someone like Pettersson could be ranked behind Hischier and Patrick, the benefit of two seasons later, you can clearly see he's not.
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Gorton seriously considers that. Supposedly the Rangers really wanted Pettersson in the 2017 Draft and assumed he'd be there at 7.
Are the Canucks really that desperate to reunite the Hughes Bros?
Gorton would accept this before they finish the offer and phone in paperwork to the league.
I doubt Vancouver has any desire to do this.
otherwise if there is any legs I suspect it would more fairly be Pettersson for #2 and additional 1sts from the Rangers to the Canucks.
Well thats just silly nonsense. I get that you dont care for the Rangers, but Pettersson is worth a number overall 2 (in a year where that pick gets you a franchise player) plus additional likely lottery 1st rounders?
Like I said, silly nonsense.
My point was it was silly to suggest moving up to #2 (from #10) to take Hughes should cost Vancouver Pettersson plus some combination of #1's this year and future as the rumor stated. If any side in that trade would need more to pull the trigger it would be the VAN side since there are zero doubts about Pettersson. Unless the rumor meant Pettersson and #10 for #2. But even then I doubt VAN would do it. At #10 they could get a really good player, so like I said the only reason for VAN to do it is if they care for some reason to have the Hughes brothers replace the Sedin twins, but that's hokey and a stretch.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the Rangers.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1119623818945937410
LOL I doubt anyone else is still here, pissing in the wind?
LOL I doubt anyone else is still here, pissing in the wind?
They need to make it to the 3rd round and have Zucc play in at least half the games in the first two for the pick to become a 1st.
regular season playing time for Zucc was irrelevant to the conditions.
if the Stars re-sign Zucc it would be a 2020 first, the pick conditions for their 2019 1st are posted above.
Zucc's been playing all playoffs, and he's been fantastic.
I think the terms for the Rangers to get a 2019 first round pick is that Zucc needs to play in 50% of the playoff games and the Stars need to advance to the third round..so we have a chance.
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and I think he's been out since the injury, so the step-up for 2019 is essentially dead, unless he's about ready to return. No clue re. his status; could he play effectively with cast?
I think the terms for the Rangers to get a 2019 first round pick is that Zucc needs to play in 50% of the playoff games and the Stars need to advance to the third round..so we have a chance.
That's exactly what I said:
I forget, when Tampa Bay was eliminated, the Rangers chance at their 2019 1st round pick went poof. What 2019 pick from TB did they end up with? A 2nd? Thanks
Me too.
I forget, when Tampa Bay was eliminated, the Rangers chance at their 2019 1st round pick went poof. What 2019 pick from TB did they end up with? A 2nd? Thanks
They have the Lightning's second round pick this year, but many think it'll be moved for Adam Fox.
I forget, when Tampa Bay was eliminated, the Rangers chance at their 2019 1st round pick went poof. What 2019 pick from TB did they end up with? A 2nd? Thanks
Stars would play the Blues if they win.
Yes, 2019 2nd round pick from TB, since they did not win the SC in 2018 or 2019.
I thought WIN would beat STL, so I think DAL can too.
DAL is one of those teams who is solid all around. They have some really young D who are playing well, and their top line is steamrolling people.
I think they can beat the Blues, but I thought WIN would beat the Blues too, so who knows.
Need to knock out NSH first thought and that was my big upset pick for round 1 in the NHL playoff thread.
I forget, when Tampa Bay was eliminated, the Rangers chance at their 2019 1st round pick went poof. What 2019 pick from TB did they end up with? A 2nd? Thanks
Also Winnipeg going out first round worked on nicely for us as the first rounder for Hayes should now fall right around 20th
They could do that and it seems like Fox REALLY wants to be a Ranger, but they may want to get him into the fold ASAP (He could be in the top-4 for us next year), so they could send a second or third rounder in the Hurricanes direction and not risk it.
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Sounds like an intriguing prospect. There is a possibility that the Rangers won't have to trade anything to get him. They may wait it out and sign him as a free agent instead.
They could do that and it seems like Fox REALLY wants to be a Ranger, but they may want to get him into the fold ASAP (He could be in the top-4 for us next year), so they could send a second or third rounder in the Hurricanes direction and not risk it.
True. The article I read mentioned trading a pick as a possibility to eliminate any risk of Fox going elsewhere. Considering the wealth of draft picks the Rangers currently possess, that might be wise.
Caulfield is more of a goal-scorer than Zucc
Definitely the Stars are favored.
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In Caufield?
Caulfield is more of a goal-scorer than Zucc
At the level he is playing at sure. Wondering if he is as tough as Zuc for his diminutive doze.
That was an intense 3rd period last night, but I never thought Leafs would even it, Boston drove hard all night, a bit of a sag in the 3rd after Matthews brought it to within 1. Tavares looked meh, pretty ineffective to my eyes. Yes, Bruins were accounting for him, but he couldn't elevate moves enough to make a difference. Andersen was stellar, deserved better.
And on Saturday night, Jets looked surprisingly anemic vs the Blues. Hayes had some moments late but couldn't finish. Blues and Avs really bottled up (what I had thought were) the better skating Canadian teams.
Sure took a long time before K Albert et al. got an explanation for the Caps' goal that was waved off, Caps seemed to feed off that review/decision (twice over) for some minutes before the Canes got their 4th (nice digging and hanging in by Stahl). Went to bed with Stars even with Preds. Nice to see Zucc flying around.
Sure took a long time before K Albert et al. got an explanation for the Caps' goal that was waved off, Caps seemed to feed off that review/decision (twice over) for some minutes before the Canes got their 4th (nice digging and hanging in by Stahl). Went to bed with Stars even with Preds. Nice to see Zucc flying around.
I don't mind a new playoff thread, maybe wait until the first round ends? or we can keep it. some good stuff in there other than Rover overrating Penguins.
Have to say, I wouldn't mind seeing Caps eliminated (Ovechkin has no problems with the English language), but maybe I'd be more interested in seeing Trotz go up against his old team.