Your ideal choices at 6, 17, and 37 (bonus 95)

QWILL
Sweat
Simmons
[Tackle]

Allen
Jonah
Simmons
[Corner]

Isn't a guy who changes the draft plans. He's a guy who they feel they can play if a rookie OT isn't ready to be the starter.

17 - Wilkins
37 - Risner

6th Quinnen Williams
17th Drew Lock
37th WR Parris Campbell
95th LB Bobby Okereke

In comment 14388344 Big Rick in FL said:

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Isn't a guy who changes the draft plans. He's a guy who they feel they can play if a rookie OT isn't ready to be the starter.

Remmers if the back checks out is still young and played very well under Shurmur as a RT . He was out of place as an OG.

In comment 14388344 Big Rick in FL said:

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Isn't a guy who changes the draft plans. He's a guy who they feel they can play if a rookie OT isn't ready to be the starter.

Agreed, he’s a guy to hold down the fort until a draft pick (Tytus Howard, Trey Pipkins, Bobby Evans) are ready.

In comment 14388356 Jay on the Island said:

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In comment 14388344 Big Rick in FL said: Quote: Isn't a guy who changes the draft plans. He's a guy who they feel they can play if a rookie OT isn't ready to be the starter. Agreed, he’s a guy to hold down the fort until a draft pick (Tytus Howard, Trey Pipkins, Bobby Evans) are ready.

DG has a good eye and has picked up 3rd,,4th and undrafted picks on OL that turned out really good.

6 Quinnen Williams (or Josh Allen)
17 Devin Bush or best ER available
37 Rock Ya-Sin
95 Best developmental RT

Lots of QBs will have to be taken early for this to have a chance

Bush, Ferguson and Long would be a coup. Draft a developmental Offensive Tackle in round 4 or in a trade up back to round 3 and sign Remmers. We would be much improved from last year

6 - Nick Bosa (I could see injury concerns causing him to slip)
17 - Daniel Jones (Devin Bush if non-QB)
37 - Jerry Tillery
95 - David Long

If Bosa isn't there you can sub Allen, Oliver, or Quinnen. If there's too much duplication with whoever they take at 6 and Tillery, you can sub Winovich at 37.

Lock at 6.
Best player available at 17.

In comment 14388363 Jay in Toronto said:

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6 Quinnen Williams (or Josh Allen) 17 Devin Bush or best ER available 37 Rock Ya-Sin 95 Best developmental RT Lots of QBs will have to be taken early for this to have a chance

If Tampa is in love with D.White as rumored and Jets trade down as they desperately want more picks, one of Allen or Quinnen has a pretty good shot of falling. Or we trade up with Oak as DaveTe mentioned for Q.

In comment 14388353 Giantz_comeback said:

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In comment 14388344 Big Rick in FL said: Quote: Isn't a guy who changes the draft plans. He's a guy who they feel they can play if a rookie OT isn't ready to be the starter. Remmers if the back checks out is still young and played very well under Shurmur as a RT . He was out of place as an OG.

He's an average player. Prior to the injury he's an upgrade over what we have. Who knows now? He just turned 30 and has back issues. Those are a killer for a lot of people. Especially 300+ pound humans. Like I said he isn't stopping us from taking a OT if the value is there.

But it's funny because I really did have a dream last night that we drafted Josh Allen, Dwayne Haskins, Dalton Risner and Antoine Wesley...in what order I can't say. Hah

In comment 14388369 TommyWiseau said:

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Bush, Ferguson and Long would be a coup. Draft a developmental Offensive Tackle in round 4 or in a trade up back to round 3 and sign Remmers. We would be much improved from last year

Yeah it would. These are all guys who could impact year 1 and transform this D quickly. Which is exactly what we need.

In comment 14388370 Eric on Li said:

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6 - Nick Bosa (I could see injury concerns causing him to slip) 17 - Daniel Jones (Devin Bush if non-QB) 37 - Jerry Tillery 95 - David Long If Bosa isn't there you can sub Allen, Oliver, or Quinnen. If there's too much duplication with whoever they take at 6 and Tillery, you can sub Winovich at 37.

While I want a WR at 37 I would be very happy with your draft as well. I am convinced that something crazy is going to happen and 1 out of Q Williams, Bosa, or Allen are going to fall to 6.

6: Q. Williams
17: Devon Bush
37: Josh Rosen
95: Andy Isabella

Highly unlikely, but we can dream right?

*Remmers signs and Quinnen Williams (or Josh Allen) don't drop.

#11 Dexter Lawrence menace in middle eating up double teams and providing a bit of pass rush (on a trade down with Bengals for pick 43 and more)

#17 Devin Bush (4.4 heat seeking missile who may be even better fit to Bettcher's D than White)

#37 AJ Brown (or Hakeem Butler). Nuanced route runner at 225+lbs. Day 1 starter in 3 WR sets.

#43 Jaylon Ferguson (NCAA all time sack leader with good size and will be able to play some 3-4 DE)

#95 David Long CB (18 completions allowed in 595 defensive snaps , one of the steals of the draft)

5 potential starters year 1

In comment 14388370 Eric on Li said:

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6 - Nick Bosa (I could see injury concerns causing him to slip) 17 - Daniel Jones (Devin Bush if non-QB) 37 - Jerry Tillery 95 - David Long If Bosa isn't there you can sub Allen, Oliver, or Quinnen. If there's too much duplication with whoever they take at 6 and Tillery, you can sub Winovich at 37.

Love the Tillery pick at 37. Very underrated.

6. Josh Allen OLB Kentucky
17. Trade to (and an early 5th)AZ for Josh Rosen and pick 33
33. AJ Brown WR Old Miss
37. Jerry Tillery 5 Tech ND
95. Tytus Howard OT Alabama St.

Assuming the big 3 doesn't fall...

6 - DE Ed Oliver Houston
17 - Edge Brian Burns Florida State
37 - WR N'Keal Harry Arizona State
96 - S Amani Hooker Iowa
108 - OT Bobby Evans Oklahoma
133 - CB Iman Marshall USC
142 - Edge Porter Gustin USC
143 - OG Dru Samia Oklahoma
171 - C Lamont Gaillard Georgia
180 - RB Tony Pollard Memphis
232 - WR DeMarkus Lodge Mississippi
245 - LB Jordan Kunaszyk Cal

If Quinnen Williams falls replace Ed Oliver with him

If Josh Allen falls replace Ed Oliver with him and replace Brian Burns with Dexter Lawrence

In comment 14388439 Amtoft said:

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Assuming the big 3 doesn't fall... 6 - DE Ed Oliver Houston 17 - Edge Brian Burns Florida State 37 - WR N'Keal Harry Arizona State 96 - S Amani Hooker Iowa 108 - OT Bobby Evans Oklahoma 133 - CB Iman Marshall USC 142 - Edge Porter Gustin USC 143 - OG Dru Samia Oklahoma 171 - C Lamont Gaillard Georgia 180 - RB Tony Pollard Memphis 232 - WR DeMarkus Lodge Mississippi 245 - LB Jordan Kunaszyk Cal If Quinnen Williams falls replace Ed Oliver with him If Josh Allen falls replace Ed Oliver with him and replace Brian Burns with Dexter Lawrence

Love it except for Harry. No question he is a tough cookie with great hands. But don't see a guy who gets enough separation . I see a poor mans Alshon Jeffery . By no means terrible but not really that great either. And not the ideal additional dynamic to what we already have.

6 - Devin White
17- Bush from Fl State
37 - Jones from Duke
95 - Boykin from ND

Gary
Dexter Lawrence
Julian Love

6. Montez Sweat
17. Greg Little
37. Paris Campbell
95. Dte’Mont Jones

6.Oliver
17.Devin Bush
37. Butler, AJ Brown or N’Keal harry

then:

#6 Quinnen Williams DL
#17 Devin Bush LB
#37 Rock Ya Sin CB
#95 Max Scharping OT
#108 Isaiah Johnson CB
#133 Ben Benogu ER
#142 Ross Pierschbacher OL
#143 David Sills WR
#171 Sheldrick Redwine S
#180 Ben Burr-Kiven LB
#232 Ed Alexander DL
#240 Brett Rypien QB

6 Ed Oliver
17 Devin Bush
37 Dalton Risner
95 Sean Bunting (cb)

Q. Williams
D. Bush
J. Williams
G. Bradbury

Allen
Bush
Ford

6. Quinnen Williams, DT
17. Brian Burns, Edge
37. Greg Little, OT
95. Will Grier, QB

6. TE TJ Hockenson
17. C Garrett Bradbury
37. OT Tytus Howard
95. LB Ben Burr-Kirven

In comment 14388608 Go Terps said:

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6. TE TJ Hockenson 17. C Garrett Bradbury 37. OT Tytus Howard 95. LB Ben Burr-Kirven

Think you need to put a defender in at 17 if you go TE at 6.

Another poster mentioned this and I agree: I have a hunch it's Grier. Follow the money - Gettleman went to see Grier play last year when Grier and WVU put up 56 points against Oklahoma (though arguably he was there to see Murray as well). Shurmur went to Grier's pro day.

Grier is a playmaker. I honestly believe he's a dark horse in all of this...

You can likely get him outside of round 1 or trade back into round 1. Shurmur went to his pro day while Shula went to Jones.

In comment 14388632 Giantz_comeback said:

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Another poster mentioned this and I agree: I have a hunch it's Grier. Follow the money - Gettleman went to see Grier play last year when Grier and WVU put up 56 points against Oklahoma (though arguably he was there to see Murray as well). Shurmur went to Grier's pro day. Grier is a playmaker. I honestly believe he's a dark horse in all of this... You can likely get him outside of round 1 or trade back into round 1. Shurmur went to his pro day while Shula went to Jones.

Grier is accurate as anything, moves well, has good enough size, and played in the style of offense Shurmur likes. i'd be happy with Grier, I think he has just as much of a chance to be a top NFL QB as Jones, Lock, or Haskins. Getting him in the 2nd round just makes it even better

Quinnen Williams
Dexter Lawrence
Dalton Risner
Vosean Joseph
Justin Layne

Build the trenches. Build within

In comment 14388681 Earl the goat said:

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Quinnen Williams Dexter Lawrence Dalton Risner Vosean Joseph Justin Layne Build the trenches. Build within

Dominate the line of scrimmage and pressure and protect the QB and everything else falls into place

In comment 14388630 dep026 said:

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In comment 14388608 Go Terps said: Quote: 6. TE TJ Hockenson 17. C Garrett Bradbury 37. OT Tytus Howard 95. LB Ben Burr-Kirven Think you need to put a defender in at 17 if you go TE at 6.

I don't think that way. I see an opportunity to make something (the OL) a strength, so I'd take that opportunity.

I understand that this defense needs players, but adding Oliver or Sweat isn't going to transform the defense into a strength.

Alternatively, if the Giants want to do something like this I'd be OK with it too:

6. Oliver
17. Wilkins
37. Winovich

If I'm Gettleman I'm approaching this draft as an opportunity to make some area of the roster the backbone of my team. My preference, given that Barkley is our best player and I believe Hockenson is the best player we could draft at #6, would be to focus on the offensive line. If they wanted to go the opposite way and build the defensive line I'm fine with that too. Just come out of this with an area that is going to be the backbone of the team.

Bush
Tillery
Grier

In comment 14388645 PatersonPlank said:

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In comment 14388632 Giantz_comeback said: Quote: Another poster mentioned this and I agree: I have a hunch it's Grier. Follow the money - Gettleman went to see Grier play last year when Grier and WVU put up 56 points against Oklahoma (though arguably he was there to see Murray as well). Shurmur went to Grier's pro day. Grier is a playmaker. I honestly believe he's a dark horse in all of this... You can likely get him outside of round 1 or trade back into round 1. Shurmur went to his pro day while Shula went to Jones. Grier is accurate as anything, moves well, has good enough size, and played in the style of offense Shurmur likes. i'd be happy with Grier, I think he has just as much of a chance to be a top NFL QB as Jones, Lock, or Haskins. Getting him in the 2nd round just makes it even better

Grier checks alot of boxes.

In comment 14388784 PaulN said:

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Bush Tillery Grier

That would be an excellent haul.

When going through this type of exercise I think it's important to remember a great Belichick quote:

"We're not trying to accumulate talent. We're trying to build a team."

Dude Ill take your 4 all day long and 4x on Sunday. If Quentin and allen are not there Ill take oliver or sweat with 6.

DL Oliver
LB Bush
RT Risner
CB Long

In comment 14388842 Go Terps said:

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When going through this type of exercise I think it's important to remember a great Belichick quote: "We're not trying to accumulate talent. We're trying to build a team."

GT , I think quite a few of these combos are areas the Giants have strong need. WR may not be high on the list after signing Shepard. Two guys now with 40M deals along with a glorified WR in Engram and a receiving back in Barkley.

6 Q will
17 E Oliver
37 Dexter Laurence

😉

I like the cut o yer jib Sonny

Howzabout

6. Oliver Ed dl
17. Laurence Dexter nt (Bush)
37. Wynovich olb (Tillery)
95. Free Safety about here
5. Center (a guard)
5. OT
5. Blocking TE

Oliver DL
Bush ILB
Tillery DL
Savage FS
Sagapulo NT
Martin, Wes G to C

6 Oliver DL
17 Bush ILB
37 Tillery DL type2
95 Savage FS
-Sagapulo NT
-Martin G-C
-Sample TE

Dexter Lawrence, zack allen, Banogu, Love

17 haskins
37 m. Brown

6. ed oliver
17. greedy williams
37. trade up back into 1st for grier or rosen
95. dexter lawrence (but im not sure he lasts thou)

In comment 14389908 msh said:

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6. ed oliver 17. greedy williams 37. trade up back into 1st for grier or rosen 95. dexter lawrence (but im not sure he lasts thou)

Like it alot but Dexter probably doesnt get out of round 1. Would need another trade up and maybe get another guy like Tillery perhaps.