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Trading Eli Manning was "most satisfying" moment

RinR : 4/17/2019 5:44 am
“[The trade] was the most satisfying moment for me in my career and I really mean that. I would say that if I was ever fortunate to win a Super Bowl, I’m sure it would’ve trumped that, but I don’t know that. I gotta tell you there was a lot of highs and lows in the business, but that moment was the greatest high for me as an executive for an organization.”

I guess without any Super Bowl victories to show for it, sticking it to Condon and the Mannings was A.J. Smith's most satisfying moment of his career. Maybe if he had kept Brees and drafted Fitzgerald they would have one won.

That is one bizarre thing to single out in your career as the highlight. Especially after the guy you traded went on to be a 2 time SB MVP.


Former Chargers GM says trading Eli Manning was the 'most satisfying moment' of career - ( New Window )
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There was some discussion on it here  
robbieballs2003 : 4/17/2019 5:45 am : link
but it had a horrible title.
sorry.  
robbieballs2003 : 4/17/2019 5:45 am : link
here
Link - ( New Window )
So he found satisfaction in losing 2 Super Bowl winning qb's  
Ira : 4/17/2019 5:54 am : link
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How exactly  
MookGiants : 4/17/2019 6:01 am : link
did he stick it to the Mannings and Condon when the trade resulted in Eli, Condon and the Mannings getting exactly what they wanted
from his perspective  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 4/17/2019 6:08 am : link
he knew that Eli wouldn't play for him, but by taking him anyway, he got three good players out of the draft. It makes him feel pretty clever.
RE: from his perspective  
Toth029 : 4/17/2019 6:19 am : link
In comment 14389517 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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he knew that Eli wouldn't play for him, but by taking him anyway, he got three good players out of the draft. It makes him feel pretty clever.

And still won jack shit!
I suspect up there amongst Ernie Accorsi’s most satisfying moments  
mfsd : 4/17/2019 6:28 am : link
are seeing Eli holding up the Lombardi trophy twice.
So sticking it to Condon & the Mannings is the  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/17/2019 7:23 am : link
'most satisfying' moment of his career? Okay then...
I don't think Eli would stick to his gun on that  
rasbutant : 4/17/2019 7:35 am : link
I think he would have played for the Chargers.

Has any reporter ever asked him about that? In hindsight would he have settled in and played for them or does he truly believe he would have sat out????
Smith’s logic makes no sense.  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 4/17/2019 7:43 am : link
But I still think it was a dick move by Eli and his camp. If the situation was reversed we would all hate the guy.
Really says a lot about AJ Smith  
TrueBlue56 : 4/17/2019 7:49 am : link
If he wants to deem that his most satisfying moment. He didn't get any superbowls with that trade. He got a steroid using linebacker who he only got about 3 seasons out of.

You know what Eli mannings most satisfying moments are....2 Superbowl championships and Superbowl MVP's
Channeling...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/17/2019 7:50 am : link
...his inner Mitch McConnell.
RE: I don't think Eli would stick to his gun on that  
bw in dc : 4/17/2019 7:58 am : link
In comment 14389539 rasbutant said:
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I think he would have played for the Chargers.

Has any reporter ever asked him about that? In hindsight would he have settled in and played for them or does he truly believe he would have sat out????


He was asked the question many times but refused to answer. And I have no doubt Eli would have sat out. They - the Mannings - were pretty dug in at the time. Once Archie got back from his visit to San Diego - yes, he actually went out there to visit Spanos, Smith and Schottenheimer - he was more convinced Eli shouldn’t play there. And so Condon went to work to make sure it was abundantly clear Eli would never play in a Charger uniform.

That line in the sand move left Smith and the Chargers in a difficult spot. But they were able to create a trade that was worked out very well for them. It’s rare a trade like that is good for both sides, especially under those conditions with a top pick at stake.

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Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 7:59 am : link
Couldn't Eli have sat out  
Boatie Warrant : 4/17/2019 8:00 am : link
and just reentered the draft the following year?
RE: Smith’s logic makes no sense.  
Bill L : 4/17/2019 8:28 am : link
In comment 14389546 Tittle 9 20 64 said:
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But I still think it was a dick move by Eli and his camp. If the situation was reversed we would all hate the guy.


But we all love John Elway.
It was also bw in dc  
dep026 : 4/17/2019 8:28 am : link
saddest moment in his life.
RE: RE: Smith’s logic makes no sense.  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 4/17/2019 8:30 am : link
In comment 14389583 Bill L said:
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But I still think it was a dick move by Eli and his camp. If the situation was reversed we would all hate the guy.



But we all love John Elway.


Not me, hate the guy!
RE: Smith’s logic makes no sense.  
Eman11 : 4/17/2019 8:34 am : link
In comment 14389546 Tittle 9 20 64 said:
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But I still think it was a dick move by Eli and his camp. If the situation was reversed we would all hate the guy.


I think Smith just helped prove Eli and the Mannings point. What a badly run organization it was at the time with a couple of clowns at the top.

Why would anyone want their future to be in the hands of a guy like this?
RE: Smith’s logic makes no sense.  
JCin332 : 4/17/2019 8:40 am : link
In comment 14389546 Tittle 9 20 64 said:
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But I still think it was a dick move by Eli and his camp. If the situation was reversed we would all hate the guy.


Are you actually a Giant fan?
RE: RE: Smith’s logic makes no sense.  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 4/17/2019 8:50 am : link
In comment 14389606 JCin332 said:
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But I still think it was a dick move by Eli and his camp. If the situation was reversed we would all hate the guy.



Are you actually a Giant fan?


Huge Giant fan for over 50 years.
That's..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/17/2019 8:54 am : link
great. Senility is a bitch though.
If a prospect does not want to play for a team  
Chris684 : 4/17/2019 8:57 am : link
and IS willing to sit out a year (as Eli was), then what are you against?

People making informed decisions about their career and future?
That is the most funniest article I've read in a long time.  
Britt in VA : 4/17/2019 8:57 am : link
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RE: RE: RE: Smith’s logic makes no sense.  
JCin332 : 4/17/2019 8:57 am : link
In comment 14389627 Tittle 9 20 64 said:
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But I still think it was a dick move by Eli and his camp. If the situation was reversed we would all hate the guy.



Are you actually a Giant fan?



Huge Giant fan for over 50 years.


Great but can't understand why as a life long Giant fan you would consider this a dick move knowing what we know now about how bad that organization was...also leading to 2 SB championships and some of my greatest memories as a fan...
All time nickname  
TyreeHelmet : 4/17/2019 8:58 am : link
Coined by Archie. Smith was the “Lord of No Rings”
...  
christian : 4/17/2019 9:10 am : link
Manning didn't want to play there and he turned that into 3 legitimate Pro Bowl seasons of Merriman and a QB who's started every game in 13 years.

The Chargers have had 3 losing seasons in the 15 years since that trade. It worked out well for them.

Winning Super Bowls is really hard, and isn't the only successful measure of an era for a team.

As an aside we all don't hate Elway, but a generation of Colts fans did. I don't begrudge Chargers fans one bit for hating Manning.

Imagine if Barkley refused to play for the Giants and then went on a tear for the Jets.
It's not weird for Chargers fans to hold a grudge against Manning  
Chris684 : 4/17/2019 9:13 am : link
It's very weird that any Giants fan would and yet years later, it seems plenty of them do.
RE: It's not weird for Chargers fans to hold a grudge against Manning  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/17/2019 9:16 am : link
In comment 14389682 Chris684 said:
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It's very weird that any Giants fan would and yet years later, it seems plenty of them do.


Yep.

Furthermore - do we think Chargers fans are pleased with the return for Eli Manning and are grateful for Merriman's 3 "legitimate" Pro Bowl seasons??

Tables can be turned both ways on that type of question. NY has 2 rings with Manning. SD has zero rings ever and their GM's most satisfying moment was losing out on that chance.

RE: RE: RE: RE: Smith’s logic makes no sense.  
Cap'n Bluebeard : 4/17/2019 9:18 am : link
In comment 14389644 JCin332 said:
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But I still think it was a dick move by Eli and his camp. If the situation was reversed we would all hate the guy.



Are you actually a Giant fan?



Huge Giant fan for over 50 years.



Great but can't understand why as a life long Giant fan you would consider this a dick move knowing what we know now about how bad that organization was...also leading to 2 SB championships and some of my greatest memories as a fan...


Yeah, pretty dumb. People forget that it was supposedly Marty Schottenheimer, the coach of the Chargers at the time, through shared agent Tom Condon who told Archie not to let Eli play there because of how bad the organization was. His point was proven when he got fired after going 14-2 in 2006. When the coach of the team poised to draft you tells you that the environment is bad, I think you listen.

People also forget that it was A.J. Smith and San Diego, not the Mannings, who made public the announcement that Eli wouldn't play for San Diego. We have no idea how often this kind of thing happens, but we have at least two high profile examples in John Elway and Bo Jackson. I think most teams would be too embarrassed to admit that a player told them not to draft him so I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were a few more.
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Cap'n Bluebeard : 4/17/2019 9:22 am : link
In comment 14389674 christian said:
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Manning didn't want to play there and he turned that into 3 legitimate Pro Bowl seasons of Merriman and a QB who's started every game in 13 years.

The Chargers have had 3 losing seasons in the 15 years since that trade. It worked out well for them.

Winning Super Bowls is really hard, and isn't the only successful measure of an era for a team.

As an aside we all don't hate Elway, but a generation of Colts fans did. I don't begrudge Chargers fans one bit for hating Manning.

Imagine if Barkley refused to play for the Giants and then went on a tear for the Jets.


I get what you're saying re: measures of team success.

However, when the player you traded away wins two Super Bowl MVPs for the team you traded him to, no number of "legitimate pro bowl" seasons or regular season wins is going to make up for that zero.
Interesting comment by Smith  
Shecky : 4/17/2019 9:23 am : link
It’s been said in numerous places that EA was tipped when he’d get the call from the Chargers. And how he wasn’t giving up Osi.

So now, years later, Smith is saying he leaked the call timing on purpose? I’m not buying that at all, but an interesting saving face by Smith.

On the other hand, considering the situation the Chargers were in, impossible not to say in hindsight they did as good as any other team has ever done in a trade down situation.
Chargers  
GF1080 : 4/17/2019 9:24 am : link
Loser mentality. Loser GM. Loser franchise. No wonder they never won a ring.
Man sensitivity runs rampant around here.  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 4/17/2019 9:30 am : link
All I’m saying if one of this year years top prospects refused to play for the Giants most of us have a problem with it. Of course Fatman has to get personal.
Immediately afterwards and for the  
pjcas18 : 4/17/2019 9:30 am : link
following few years I thought the Chargers fleeced the Giants.

Now that we know the outcome, 2 SB rings for the Giants and 2 SB MVP's for Eli for Smith to still be pounding his chest about the trade is like the kid 6 years out of high school still going to high school parties and looking like a loser.

Would have  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 4/17/2019 9:30 am : link
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I would also say that Ernie Accorsi should be revered by NYG fans  
Chris684 : 4/17/2019 9:33 am : link
yet most here mock him whenever his name is mentioned.
I wonder to what extent PTSD from the Ryan Leaf disaster  
NoPeanutz : 4/17/2019 9:57 am : link
may have influenced, even subliminally, the way that San Diego (and the Mannings) approached the whole Rivers/ Manning choice.
Loser mentality is right.  
Britt in VA : 4/17/2019 9:58 am : link
That is a loser's mentality.
AJ Smith was not well liked  
chiro56 : 4/17/2019 10:03 am : link
By Charger fans or players. Listening to some of his interviews years ago on the sports talk radio down here, you came to realize his nastiest.
Kiss the rings, AJ  
Harvest Blend : 4/17/2019 10:06 am : link
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Interesting fact  
Les in TO : 4/17/2019 10:15 am : link
Eli is 0-5 all time vs the Chargers
RE: Interesting fact  
Britt in VA : 4/17/2019 10:16 am : link
In comment 14389820 Les in TO said:
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Eli is 0-5 all time vs the Chargers


Cool story bro.
It always bothers me  
bluetothegrave : 4/17/2019 10:23 am : link
That pieces of garbage like AJ Smith somehow go on to convince people they are not complete morons and go on to have decent lives. This guy is potentially the worlds biggest douchenozzle. His greatest moment was that trade? ELI and Giants won 2 Superbowls and this dickwad's organization has won none due to that trade and that trade, even though it wasn't terrible for the Chargers, called that his greatest moment? wow. LOSER
RE: It always bothers me  
NoPeanutz : 4/17/2019 10:31 am : link
In comment 14389834 bluetothegrave said:
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That pieces of garbage like AJ Smith somehow go on to convince people they are not complete morons and go on to have decent lives. This guy is potentially the worlds biggest douchenozzle. His greatest moment was that trade? ELI and Giants won 2 Superbowls and this dickwad's organization has won none due to that trade and that trade, even though it wasn't terrible for the Chargers, called that his greatest moment? wow. LOSER

It's not even like Rivers has ever been to the Super Bowl. Is he the best or most successful QB to never have won his conference?
RE: Interesting comment by Smith  
TrueBlue56 : 4/17/2019 10:37 am : link
In comment 14389703 Shecky said:
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It’s been said in numerous places that EA was tipped when he’d get the call from the Chargers. And how he wasn’t giving up Osi.

So now, years later, Smith is saying he leaked the call timing on purpose? I’m not buying that at all, but an interesting saving face by Smith.

On the other hand, considering the situation the Chargers were in, impossible not to say in hindsight they did as good as any other team has ever done in a trade down situation.


Peter king has confirmed that he was the source that told Accorsi that AJ Smith was going to call him when the giants were on the clock.
If AJ Smith feels that way...God bless  
GiantJake : 4/17/2019 10:39 am : link
At the time, it couldn't have been fun for the Chargers organization to be called out as dysfunctional in front of the football world. I'm sure there is a grudge there, but they got a very good return and a franchise QB in Rivers. It is his "most satisfying" moment and I'm sure the Giants would agree. It's a win-win for both sides.
This guy is a petty jackass  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/17/2019 10:41 am : link
Eli was right not to play for that shit hole organization.

That's been the rub. The Chargers were a shit hole. He knew it. The fans knew it. That's why it pissed them off.
RE: So sticking it to Condon & the Mannings is the  
djstat : 4/17/2019 10:44 am : link
In comment 14389536 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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'most satisfying' moment of his career? Okay then...
KInda shows what a lousy career he had
Eli as a 2xSBMVP and future HOFer  
BBelle21 : 4/17/2019 10:49 am : link
Really makes some people say weird stuff. AJ Smith couldn’t sound more insecure here lol.
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