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Movin The Chains- Charlie Weiss to break down Kyler Murray

jvm52106 : 4/17/2019 8:37 am
when they get back from break. I will try and transcribe as much as I can.
A few weeks ago, he said  
Big Blue '56 : 4/17/2019 8:40 am : link
Murray is more like Wilson in that as a baseball player he knows how and when to slide and also knows how to avoid big hits. That’s why he feels Murray can be successful..We’ll see what he says today. :)
Oh and thanks  
Big Blue '56 : 4/17/2019 8:40 am : link
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RE: A few weeks ago, he said  
ZogZerg : 4/17/2019 8:44 am : link
In comment 14389605 Big Blue '56 said:
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Murray is more like Wilson in that as a baseball player he knows how and when to slide and also knows how to avoid big hits. That’s why he feels Murray can be successful..We’ll see what he says today. :)


So is it because he also plays baseball he must be like Wilson?
Or, did he actually compare college film between Wilson and Murray and see a similarity on how they actually play QB?
Ok Here goes  
jvm52106 : 4/17/2019 8:59 am : link
Lead In

Different than all other QB's in this draft the way Mayfield was different than all others from last year. Sat beghind Mayfield in 2017, started in 2018 and played exceptional.

Pros:

70% comp, 4300 pass yards, 42-7 td to Int, 1000 yds rush with 12 rush tds.
People compare to Wilson-
does not rattle easy
plays big in big games
can out run defenders
looks to throw first, even when moving in pocket-keeps eyes downfield
RARE SPEED

Russell Wilson Comp- less experience than Wilson but way way faster.

Cons:

5'10"
1 year starter
small (body)

*However these are items where you are LOOKING for negatives, they did not hinder him at all last year. Some mechanical stuff to clean up but nothing concerning.

Overall:

He will hide Oline problems
Shoot for the moon pick
Separate Category than any other QB
Will make any team he goes to better
Elite Talent
No worried about his size at all and even use Tom Brady as an example as he came into the league at 188..
That's not a bad assessment  
UberAlias : 4/17/2019 9:07 am : link
IMO.
Garrett Bradbury now on the  
jvm52106 : 4/17/2019 9:12 am : link
show with Tucker and Weiss.

Reminds weiss of Kevin Mawae (sp) as he plays like him and looks like him on "tape".

Bradbury trained in Ph,AZ. Played in Senior Bowl. Enjoyed that and then combine prep. Did well at combine.

Played TE and DE in High School. Was recruited as a TE. Had no idea he would move to OL. Thought he was going to be a TE (when he was 17 year old redshirt Freshmen). He would have laughed at you if you told him he would be an olinemen in college. Moved to Dline then was told (coach said we are not asking you, we are telling you) you are moving to Oline. Became a starter and played well.

34 reps on the bench
loves lifting

Not sure which teams are heavily interested and guys from NC State last year (dl guys) said the teams that drafted them were the ones that talked to them (the players) the least. He is a Panthers fan but not like he was when younger.

Weighs now 305 and wants to play whatever he most comfortable with but 305 seems like his best weight (finished the season at 305).

Bradbury already  
jvm52106 : 4/17/2019 9:15 am : link
has his degree and pursuing a graduate degree.
Weiss already broke down the buffet at Golden Corral  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 9:23 am : link
ba dum dum
Murray's my guy  
Johnny5 : 4/17/2019 9:58 am : link
... that I want most this draft. No way it's happening IMV but I would be ecstatic.
I was impressed with  
jvm52106 : 4/17/2019 10:01 am : link
the way Weiss talked up what he can mean to a team. He didn't seemed concerned at all about size limitations and felt his best asset was being able to move and still be looking to make the throw.
RE: RE: A few weeks ago, he said  
Big Blue '56 : 4/17/2019 10:26 am : link
In comment 14389614 ZogZerg said:
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In comment 14389605 Big Blue '56 said:


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Murray is more like Wilson in that as a baseball player he knows how and when to slide and also knows how to avoid big hits. That’s why he feels Murray can be successful..We’ll see what he says today. :)



So is it because he also plays baseball he must be like Wilson?
Or, did he actually compare college film between Wilson and Murray and see a similarity on how they actually play QB?


Yes, the latter
Btw, it was interesting to hear  
Big Blue '56 : 4/17/2019 11:13 am : link
Weis say that AFTER Murray, he would take Grier, be it 2nd or 3rd round
RE: Btw, it was interesting to hear  
jvm52106 : 4/17/2019 11:20 am : link
In comment 14389918 Big Blue '56 said:
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Weis say that AFTER Murray, he would take Grier, be it 2nd or 3rd round


He is not big on Jones I can tell you that.
RE: RE: Btw, it was interesting to hear  
Big Blue '56 : 4/17/2019 11:33 am : link
In comment 14389929 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 14389918 Big Blue '56 said:


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Weis say that AFTER Murray, he would take Grier, be it 2nd or 3rd round



He is not big on Jones I can tell you that.


Or Rosen
If Gettleman can find a reasonable way to get Murray, I'll be a very  
Ira : 4/17/2019 11:37 am : link
happy Giants fan.
To the OP  
Tuckrule : 4/17/2019 11:49 am : link
Thanks for posting. Good info
RE: If Gettleman can find a reasonable way to get Murray, I'll be a very  
NYG007 : 4/17/2019 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14389954 Ira said:
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happy Giants fan.


Agreed. I have been all in on Murray for about 6 months now.
RE: Murray's my guy  
djm : 4/17/2019 6:52 pm : link
In comment 14389781 Johnny5 said:
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... that I want most this draft. No way it's happening IMV but I would be ecstatic.


Me too.
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