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Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 2:59 pm
NYY
Brett Gardner (L) CF
Aaron Judge (R) RF
Luke Voit (R) 1B
Gleyber Torres (R) SS
DJ LeMahieu (R) 2B
Clint Frazier (R) DH
Mike Tauchman (L) LF
Gio Urshela (R) 3B
Austin Romine (R) C

JA Happ (who fucking sucks BTW)

BOS
Mookie Betts (R) RF
Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
J.D. Martinez (R) LF
Steve Pearce (R) 1B
Mitch Moreland (L) DH
Dustin Pedroia (R) 2B
Rafael Devers (L) 3B
Christian Vazquez (R) C
Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) CF

Nathan Eovaldi

Just win dammit.
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What the fuck is going on here  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 9:17 pm : link
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Phew...  
rnargi : 4/17/2019 9:18 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:18 pm : link
Fuck yes. Huge out.
Thank God for Eduardo Scissorhands  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2019 9:18 pm : link
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Ottavino  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:18 pm : link
is John Wetteland part II.
RE: Wtf did he not have a lefty up?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 9:18 pm : link
In comment 14391086 PetesHereNow said:
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Wtf?


Otto gets out of it, but yeah... that didn't make any sense. If he was going to get Chappy up anyway, he should've been ready for Moreland.
RE: Ottavino  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 9:18 pm : link
In comment 14391096 section125 said:
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is John Wetteland part II.


LOL no shit
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:18 pm : link
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(And yes, I'm aware of his background)

He's a fucking eyesore and I'm tired of seeing his florescent "uniform" behind home plate every other time I watch a baseball game.



LOL relax Arc...have a beer



Or a xanax



What was your last handle, jackass?

Get lost.



Im not going to start a fight...I am relishing this come back, but werent you rooting for the Mets this time last year?

Just saying...


You weren't here last year, you fucking dopey shithead.

Again, get lost. Thanks!
RE: What the fuck is going on here  
mfsd : 4/17/2019 9:19 pm : link
In comment 14391091 Jints in Carolina said:
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Seriously. 2 quick outs then Otto loses it. WTF
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:19 pm : link
Surprise Britton wasn't up just in case... or Chapman wasn't up until the bases were loaded... but, I guess on good rest, Boone was going to live or die with Otto there.
Last Out  
Percy : 4/17/2019 9:20 pm : link
Heart attack city. What a relief!
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:20 pm : link
In comment 14391099 arcarsenal said:
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You weren't here last year, you fucking dopey shithead.

Again, get lost. Thanks!


Probably was as some other banned knucklehead.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:23 pm : link
Yep.. one of the 5-10 dupes that just circulate around this board over and over and over again. Yawn.
RE: RE: RE: fuck you ump  
Eman11 : 4/17/2019 9:24 pm : link
In comment 14391090 BigBlueShock said:
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fuck you long time.



Yeah he's a pitchers ump no doubt with that outside pitch but he's been calling it a strike all night. The hitters have to adjust. I'd be more pisssed if he wasn't consistent with it.


Yeah, god forbid umpires actually get evaluated like the rest of the world and be told to do better. You cannot ask hitters to swing at balls 4 inches outside of the zone. How about the ump be accountable for the shit job he does?

I don’t give a rats ass about consistency. Being consistently wrong doesn’t make it right. Be better at your job. The fact these guys aren’t evaluated and held accountable is mind numbing. And if they ARE being held accountable, why do they continue to get to use the “pitchers ump” excuse? A strike is a freakin strike. We don’t get to make our own rules. It’s frustrating as all hell.


I agree and in now way saying it's acceptable. They should be better no question.

I'm only pointing out its been going on forever in baseball and he has for the most part been calling that pitch off the plate a strike all night. We can see it and the hitters should to.

They need to adjust to that or accept being punched out. It sucks but that's the reality tonight. If he was back and forth with it then yeah, I think they'd bemore prone to take it and hope maybe this time he gets it right but it's not happening like that tonight and at least he's been consistent in that shitty call. That can be adjusted to but inconsistency can't.
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BigBlueShock : 4/17/2019 9:27 pm : link
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(And yes, I'm aware of his background)

He's a fucking eyesore and I'm tired of seeing his florescent "uniform" behind home plate every other time I watch a baseball game.



LOL relax Arc...have a beer



Or a xanax



What was your last handle, jackass?

Get lost.



Im not going to start a fight...I am relishing this come back, but werent you rooting for the Mets this time last year?

Just saying...

If the decision is between arc and you, you’re not going to like the results. arc is an awesome poster and we’ll respected. Nobody knows who the hell you are. So a word of advice? Tone it down and contribute or get lost. You’re obviously a dupe, and I don’t care either way. But please don’t ruin game threads.
the first rule of Yankees Club  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 9:29 pm : link
is there is no fighting before sex.
RE: RE: RE: RE: fuck you ump  
BigBlueShock : 4/17/2019 9:31 pm : link
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fuck you long time.



Yeah he's a pitchers ump no doubt with that outside pitch but he's been calling it a strike all night. The hitters have to adjust. I'd be more pisssed if he wasn't consistent with it.


Yeah, god forbid umpires actually get evaluated like the rest of the world and be told to do better. You cannot ask hitters to swing at balls 4 inches outside of the zone. How about the ump be accountable for the shit job he does?

I don’t give a rats ass about consistency. Being consistently wrong doesn’t make it right. Be better at your job. The fact these guys aren’t evaluated and held accountable is mind numbing. And if they ARE being held accountable, why do they continue to get to use the “pitchers ump” excuse? A strike is a freakin strike. We don’t get to make our own rules. It’s frustrating as all hell.



I agree and in now way saying it's acceptable. They should be better no question.

I'm only pointing out its been going on forever in baseball and he has for the most part been calling that pitch off the plate a strike all night. We can see it and the hitters should to.

They need to adjust to that or accept being punched out. It sucks but that's the reality tonight. If he was back and forth with it then yeah, I think they'd bemore prone to take it and hope maybe this time he gets it right but it's not happening like that tonight and at least he's been consistent in that shitty call. That can be adjusted to but inconsistency can't.

Expecting a player to swing at a ball that far off the plate is ludicrous. There’s nothing they can do with that pitch. I would watch it go by 1000 times out of 1000. You have to trust the IMO to be competent at his job. You can’t just sail away at a pitch out of the zone because the ump may call it a strike
Sa....WEEET!!  
rnargi : 4/17/2019 9:35 pm : link
!!!
sweeeeeeeeeep  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 9:35 pm : link
I am 5-2 starting game threads....just sayin'
,  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:37 pm : link
Ballgame. So glad we took both of these.

Wipes a lot of that bad taste from the weekend away.

Hopefully we're starting to even out a little and get on track. Gary is on the way back. Stanton is working his way. Hicks is feeling good.

Not all of the reinforcements are on the way, but some are... and those guys will definitely help. We should get a couple back before May.

Not sure if we'll get all these games in against KC - weather is looking iffy - but I'd really like to see us take 3 of 4 there.
Maybe CC  
Jay in Toronto : 4/17/2019 9:37 pm : link
Could teach Happ his cutter. Keep the lefty tradition going.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:37 pm : link
(Also, sorry for derailing the thread... I wasn't that angry about Marlins Man, I just don't like his ugly jersey... or dupes)
BB shoc  
Eman11 : 4/17/2019 9:38 pm : link
It's not that far off the plate. Definitely off by a couple of inches and I agree the first time you let that go by. Thing is though after seeing it called all night at least a dozen or more times you know it's getting called a strike. Well at least you should. Eovaldi certainly knew it was being called and kept going for it.

Players in the booth from the Scooter to Murcer, Kaat, to the guys we have now have all said the same thing. Umps miss calls all the time but they just want them to be consistent so they can adjust as the game goes on.

I wish it wasn't that way but it is. Again, it's not acceptable to me either but I get more pissed at umps who are inconsistent. That really drives me nuts.

Thankfully it didn't cost us tonight and a fantastic win by our guys and even more so because it was against the Sox!
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FrankieR : 4/17/2019 9:39 pm : link
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(And yes, I'm aware of his background)

He's a fucking eyesore and I'm tired of seeing his florescent "uniform" behind home plate every other time I watch a baseball game.



LOL relax Arc...have a beer



Or a xanax



What was your last handle, jackass?

Get lost.



Im not going to start a fight...I am relishing this come back, but werent you rooting for the Mets this time last year?

Just saying...


If the decision is between arc and you, you’re not going to like the results. arc is an awesome poster and we’ll respected. Nobody knows who the hell you are. So a word of advice? Tone it down and contribute or get lost. You’re obviously a dupe, and I don’t care either way. But please don’t ruin game threads.


I wanted to wait until after the game to respond out of respect.

I am yes, a recent member. I am also a Yankee fan of over 45 years. I have lurked this board for a while. I found it annoying that I was called out for being a dupe by somebody and I responded. I cant see how his response to me was necessary while my response was tame and tongue in cheek.

Good win for the Yanks. Many of you need to lighten up
While it is true that all the players  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:40 pm : link
ask for is a consistent strike zone, it is still annoying that guys with really good eyes gets punched out on balls 4 inches off the plate.

But Chapman's velo is edging up. 98-100 with close to a wipe out slider.

Love that Gardy wins it on an 0-2 grand slam...
Great win!!  
mfsd : 4/17/2019 9:40 pm : link
Amazing how beating the Red Sox twice makes things feel better about the season. Decent pitching, and a monster clutch HR by Gardy.

How great has Frazier been? Finally got his shot and he’s running with it
RE: sweeeeeeeeeep  
FrankieR : 4/17/2019 9:41 pm : link
In comment 14391148 Jints in Carolina said:
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I am 5-2 starting game threads....just sayin'


So keep making them!
RE: RE: sweeeeeeeeeep  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:43 pm : link
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I am 5-2 starting game threads....just sayin'



So keep making them!


This...+1
RE: While it is true that all the players  
Eman11 : 4/17/2019 9:45 pm : link
In comment 14391165 section125 said:
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ask for is a consistent strike zone, it is still annoying that guys with really good eyes gets punched out on balls 4 inches off the plate.

But Chapman's velo is edging up. 98-100 with close to a wipe out slider.

Love that Gardy wins it on an 0-2 grand slam...


Absolutely section. I agree all around.

I'm as annoyed as anyone else with those calls, but I was just trying to point out he was consistent with it, and I get less annoyed when an ump is consistent with a pitch all night than when he's inconsistent with it.

I certainly wasn't giving him a pass for making those bad calls.

Let's roll the Royals next and keep the momentum going.
RE: RE: RE: sweeeeeeeeeep  
Percy : 4/17/2019 9:49 pm : link
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I am 5-2 starting game threads....just sayin'



So keep making them!



This...+1


Keep it up!
Hey if I get Yankees games on local NYC cable  
Rover : 4/17/2019 9:56 pm : link
Aren't I supposed to be able to watch them anywhere with Fox Sports Go?
Haven't seen them on there...
Is Frazier considered a rookie this year?  
mattyblue : 4/17/2019 10:07 pm : link
?
RE: Is Frazier considered a rookie this year?  
section125 : 4/17/2019 10:11 pm : link
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He had 134 ABs in 2017. I think once you reach 130 AB is a year, that is your rookie year...iirc.
RE: Hey if I get Yankees games on local NYC cable  
Stu11 : 4/17/2019 10:12 pm : link
In comment 14391203 Rover said:
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Aren't I supposed to be able to watch them anywhere with Fox Sports Go?
Haven't seen them on there...

Only the gameson YES are on the Fox app. The games in Pix11 are not.
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BigBlueShock : 4/17/2019 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14391179 Eman11 said:
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ask for is a consistent strike zone, it is still annoying that guys with really good eyes gets punched out on balls 4 inches off the plate.

But Chapman's velo is edging up. 98-100 with close to a wipe out slider.

Love that Gardy wins it on an 0-2 grand slam...



Absolutely section. I agree all around.

I'm as annoyed as anyone else with those calls, but I was just trying to point out he was consistent with it, and I get less annoyed when an ump is consistent with a pitch all night than when he's inconsistent with it.

I certainly wasn't giving him a pass for making those bad calls.

Let's roll the Royals next and keep the momentum going.

Eman, I get it. But the thing that drives me insane is that these umps obviously have no accountability. Why hasn’t someone pulled this guy aside and showed him the video. Say “look, those pitches are not strikes”. Why does he get to keep running out there calling shitty games? Where the accountability? In this day and age of technology, simply saying he’s a pitchers ump doesn’t fly. Be better. That’s all I ask
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Eman11 : 4/17/2019 11:06 pm : link
In comment 14391247 BigBlueShock said:
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ask for is a consistent strike zone, it is still annoying that guys with really good eyes gets punched out on balls 4 inches off the plate.

But Chapman's velo is edging up. 98-100 with close to a wipe out slider.

Love that Gardy wins it on an 0-2 grand slam...



Absolutely section. I agree all around.

I'm as annoyed as anyone else with those calls, but I was just trying to point out he was consistent with it, and I get less annoyed when an ump is consistent with a pitch all night than when he's inconsistent with it.

I certainly wasn't giving him a pass for making those bad calls.

Let's roll the Royals next and keep the momentum going.


Eman, I get it. But the thing that drives me insane is that these umps obviously have no accountability. Why hasn’t someone pulled this guy aside and showed him the video. Say “look, those pitches are not strikes”. Why does he get to keep running out there calling shitty games? Where the accountability? In this day and age of technology, simply saying he’s a pitchers ump doesn’t fly. Be better. That’s all I ask


Absolutely man. You'd think they'd get reviewed and evaluated just like players do but we never hear if that happens.

Plus the whole you can't argue balls and strikes just gives these umps even more power and it's like a built in excuse to not have to account for anything. They're judge and jury and it doesn't seem like there is much recourse.

I know teams can file complaints but we never see much if any improvement. Just look at guys like Angel Hernandez and CB Buckner still having jobs for proof it's not a performance based job. Maybe if they were all forced to face the media post game like players it would help. Could you imagine the ump tonight being asked over and over by reporters about those outside pitches? Now that's a postgame I'd watch!
Helluva comeback win.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/17/2019 11:13 pm : link
We've all been a bit frustrated with Gardy, myself included, so I'm happy he got the BIG hit tonight. Good for him. Hopefully this sweep is this team turning the corner.
We needed  
FrankieR : 4/17/2019 11:22 pm : link
A break and got it when Gardy went deep. According to stat cast, the given distance would yield a home run in ONE of 30 ballparks.

2 in a row
credit to Happ  
bigbluehoya : 4/17/2019 11:38 pm : link
For keeping his head screwed on straight and giving them length after some rocky early moments.

As much as I’ve been down on Gardy as an every-day player and leadoff hitter, nice piece of hitting in a big spot

Nice little mini-leverage spot to get to see Kahnle tonight. He looks good.

More and more, we’re going to look back on this shitty string of injuries and underwhelming play and think “hey, at least we were forced to give Frazier a truly every-day big league look”. The kid can hit. He should be part of the equation for this team. Maybe he’s here long term and maybe he isn’t, but the point is that he has real value.

Nice win.
It's not Gardner's fault  
Deejboy : 4/18/2019 12:35 am : link
that everyone got hurt and he has been forced to play everyday and in CF no less. I don't know why Yankees fans would bash him since he is playing due to injuries. He was suppose to be the 4th OFer and ultimately was going to give way to Frazier. The irony that there have been so many injuries that Frazier has been able to establish himself with regular playing time. When everyone is back healthy Gardner will be the 5th OFer since Frazier will probably be the everyday LFer.
Frazier...  
manh george : 4/18/2019 1:07 am : link
had a hitch in his swing in 2017. He kicked his right foot back away from the plate before striding with his left.

That's gone, and his swing looks really sweet.
SoSH  
GruningsOnTheHill : 4/18/2019 7:27 am : link
Whenever I read though the popular Red Sox board following a big NYY win, the talk there invariably devolves into what a joke of a stadium "the toilet" is with the short RF porch, and today is no exception. Same with the few Red Sox friends I have at work. They never want to talk about the shortest HR in ball--the 302ft shot to Pesky Pole in Fenway--nor the Green Monster...stickball anyone?
Frazier had a rash of beginner's luck...  
Dunedin81 : 4/18/2019 8:21 am : link
and when his luck started to change he tried to sell out for power. This time around he's being consistent with his approach and the results are a lot better on the whole. He's a good player, and he's going to be a big part of the solution until some of the walking wounded start returning to the fold.
RE: SoSH  
section125 : 4/18/2019 8:28 am : link
In comment 14391405 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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Whenever I read though the popular Red Sox board following a big NYY win, the talk there invariably devolves into what a joke of a stadium "the toilet" is with the short RF porch, and today is no exception. Same with the few Red Sox friends I have at work. They never want to talk about the shortest HR in ball--the 302ft shot to Pesky Pole in Fenway--nor the Green Monster...stickball anyone?


Haha - I guess Vazquez's HR wasn't porched? As O'Neill said last night, maybe it wasn't a HR in any other stadium, but it was at least a double and probably bases clearing at that...so much ado about nothing.
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Eman11 : 4/18/2019 8:37 am : link
In comment 14391458 section125 said:
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Whenever I read though the popular Red Sox board following a big NYY win, the talk there invariably devolves into what a joke of a stadium "the toilet" is with the short RF porch, and today is no exception. Same with the few Red Sox friends I have at work. They never want to talk about the shortest HR in ball--the 302ft shot to Pesky Pole in Fenway--nor the Green Monster...stickball anyone?



Haha - I guess Vazquez's HR wasn't porched? As O'Neill said last night, maybe it wasn't a HR in any other stadium, but it was at least a double and probably bases clearing at that...so much ado about nothing.


Yup. To me it's silly to complain about dimensions in ball parks. Their differences are part of baseball's charm to me.

Complaining about them or making excuses comes across as sour grapes to me because I think we've all seen visiting teams also take advantage of the porch, Pesky pole, Green Monster etc.
as injured as the Yankees have been  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/18/2019 8:45 am : link
and as bad as they've played in close games to start the season, the key number to see is that they currently have a 3 game lead on the Sox.

The Rays will cool off. It's the best run organization in the game, perhaps, but I don't think they have the horses to keep this up. I think the Yankees will not only catch the Rays, but will be fine by season's end for at least a wild card spot.
The Rays are a weird team...  
Dunedin81 : 4/18/2019 8:50 am : link
certainly the best in the sport right now at getting a lot out of a little. Charlie Morton probably comes back to earth, but Snell/Glasnow could be quite a 1-2 punch (at the very least, a healthy Snell is an elite pitcher) and that back end of the pen is dominant. But even if Austin Meadows is legit and Tommy Pham is underrated, the rest of the offensive performance from that team is way ahead of career norms.

I have no idea whether on the whole that's a 75-win team or a 90-win team.
RE: The Rays are a weird team...  
Carson53 : 4/18/2019 9:59 am : link
In comment 14391502 Dunedin81 said:
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certainly the best in the sport right now at getting a lot out of a little. Charlie Morton probably comes back to earth, but Snell/Glasnow could be quite a 1-2 punch (at the very least, a healthy Snell is an elite pitcher) and that back end of the pen is dominant. But even if Austin Meadows is legit and Tommy Pham is underrated, the rest of the offensive performance from that team is way ahead of career norms.

I have no idea whether on the whole that's a 75-win team or a 90-win team.
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They are off to a great start like the Sawx
last year, don't think they are a fluke....
At least as far as being a good team, it's a long season.
I am not saying they will do anything like the Sawx,
simply pointing out a similar great start.
The Sawx started out 17-2 last year IIRC.
The Yanks need to tread water for awhile, until the walking wounded start coming back.
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arcarsenal : 4/18/2019 10:37 am : link
I think Tampa is a 90 win team. I think they're legit.

Not quite this legit - but they're good.

That said, they're not the 108-win team Boston was last year and the Yanks are better when reasonably healthy.

Will we get reasonably healthy this year? I hope so.

I'm not going to write Boston off yet. Not for a while. But they have real problems there that I don't think are just going to disappear... especially with their pitching.
Just a reminder  
Greg from LI : 4/18/2019 11:15 am : link
The Boston Red Sox have the worst record in the AL.

:)
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