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NFT: Red Sox at Yankees GDT 4/17

Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 2:59 pm
NYY
Brett Gardner (L) CF
Aaron Judge (R) RF
Luke Voit (R) 1B
Gleyber Torres (R) SS
DJ LeMahieu (R) 2B
Clint Frazier (R) DH
Mike Tauchman (L) LF
Gio Urshela (R) 3B
Austin Romine (R) C

JA Happ (who fucking sucks BTW)

BOS
Mookie Betts (R) RF
Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
J.D. Martinez (R) LF
Steve Pearce (R) 1B
Mitch Moreland (L) DH
Dustin Pedroia (R) 2B
Rafael Devers (L) 3B
Christian Vazquez (R) C
Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) CF

Nathan Eovaldi

Just win dammit.
Just keep  
superspynyg : 4/17/2019 3:06 pm : link
raking!!!
Does this  
Mike from SI : 4/17/2019 3:24 pm : link
indicate that Gardy only gets demoted from the leadoff spot against lefties?
I love the scoutung report  
FrankieR : 4/17/2019 3:29 pm : link
On JA Happ.
Sounds like Sanchez  
Beer Man : 4/17/2019 3:51 pm : link
is on track to return Sunday.
So far it looks like Eovaldi  
Beer Man : 4/17/2019 3:54 pm : link
is having a typical Eovaldi season (tease here and there, but mostly a heartbreak). Certainly, not the year he had last year. Of course he seems to do well against the Yanks.
RE: Sounds like Sanchez  
Mike from SI : 4/17/2019 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14390477 Beer Man said:
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is on track to return Sunday.


That is great news!
Pedroia  
GruningsOnTheHill : 4/17/2019 3:58 pm : link
Is the gent washed up at this juncture...?
RE: Pedroia  
CromartiesKid21 : 4/17/2019 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14390490 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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Is the gent washed up at this juncture...?


We haven't seen him in like 3 years but yeah probably
RE: Sounds like Sanchez  
Dunedin81 : 4/17/2019 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14390477 Beer Man said:
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is on track to return Sunday.


That's what he says. Whether the team agrees or not remains to be seen.
RE: So far it looks like Eovaldi  
Deejboy : 4/17/2019 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14390483 Beer Man said:
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is having a typical Eovaldi season (tease here and there, but mostly a heartbreak). Certainly, not the year he had last year. Of course he seems to do well against the Yanks.

He is not even teasing this year. He has been just awful. His stuff is all straight and he no control of his cutter and slider. That is why he is giving up such hard contact cause his four seam fastball is so damn hittable even though he still throws it 99mph. That is vintage Eovaldi.
Pedoria has played 5 games  
arniefez : 4/17/2019 4:48 pm : link
3 at 2B 2 at DH. He has 2 singles and 1 BB in 21 PAs.
RE: Pedoria has played 5 games  
mfsd : 4/17/2019 4:53 pm : link
In comment 14390558 arniefez said:
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3 at 2B 2 at DH. He has 2 singles and 1 BB in 21 PAs.


Yeah but hes so gritty...
I wouldnt trust Happ to win the carnival dunk tank  
NoGainDayne : 4/17/2019 5:00 pm : link
game against a bunch of random kids this year
RE: RE: So far it looks like Eovaldi  
BigBlue2112 : 4/17/2019 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14390530 Deejboy said:
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In comment 14390483 Beer Man said:


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is having a typical Eovaldi season (tease here and there, but mostly a heartbreak). Certainly, not the year he had last year. Of course he seems to do well against the Yanks.


He is not even teasing this year. He has been just awful. His stuff is all straight and he no control of his cutter and slider. That is why he is giving up such hard contact cause his four seam fastball is so damn hittable even though he still throws it 99mph. That is vintage Eovaldi.


Of course he'll throw 7 scoreless tonight
the news on Sevy  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 5:02 pm : link
is that the magic lat injury that didn't show up on the MRI is going to hold him back from picking up a baseball for another 5 weeks.

We are going to need Happ to earn his money.


Make daddy happy.
Eovaldi could throw  
bigbluehoya : 4/17/2019 6:04 pm : link
Consecutive perfect games and that contract would still have been the height of lunacy, IMO. I get that some level of overpay may have been practical for the huge role he played in last years WS run, but 4 * 17 is an outsized assumption of risk.
RE: Eovaldi could throw  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 6:29 pm : link
In comment 14390648 bigbluehoya said:
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Consecutive perfect games and that contract would still have been the height of lunacy, IMO. I get that some level of overpay may have been practical for the huge role he played in last years WS run, but 4 * 17 is an outsized assumption of risk.


I don't think it was a bigger leap of faith than we took with Happ. With his age and clearly declining stuff, i'm still at a loss.
RE: RE: Eovaldi could throw  
bigbluehoya : 4/17/2019 6:31 pm : link
In comment 14390678 RasputinPrime said:
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In comment 14390648 bigbluehoya said:


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Consecutive perfect games and that contract would still have been the height of lunacy, IMO. I get that some level of overpay may have been practical for the huge role he played in last years WS run, but 4 * 17 is an outsized assumption of risk.



I don't think it was a bigger leap of faith than we took with Happ. With his age and clearly declining stuff, i'm still at a loss.


I was pretty outspoken against Happ, so I dont really disagree. But 4 guaranteed years vs 2 + vesting option is a fairly big step-down in risk.
RE: RE: RE: Eovaldi could throw  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 6:39 pm : link
In comment 14390680 bigbluehoya said:
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In comment 14390648 bigbluehoya said:


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Consecutive perfect games and that contract would still have been the height of lunacy, IMO. I get that some level of overpay may have been practical for the huge role he played in last years WS run, but 4 * 17 is an outsized assumption of risk.



I don't think it was a bigger leap of faith than we took with Happ. With his age and clearly declining stuff, i'm still at a loss.



I was pretty outspoken against Happ, so I dont really disagree. But 4 guaranteed years vs 2 + vesting option is a fairly big step-down in risk.


Perhaps but Happ is 36 and Eovaldi is 29. I'll go for a younge arm with less tread more often than not.
Bad signing.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/17/2019 6:42 pm : link
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.  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 6:42 pm : link
Another longball.

Ugh. I was worried about this after ST.
Martinez  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 6:42 pm : link
just waved to the Babe in monument park.

1-0

Again, I see zero reason to think Happ is going to give us value.
Maybe Happ really does auck  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 6:45 pm : link
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.  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 6:45 pm : link
It's only 1 run, but... I wonder if another poor outing for Happ will push them to keep Gio. Only have 3 more days on that.
Who's the gray haired fuck that always sits behind home  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 6:51 pm : link
And roots for Boston. Same seat behind home only vs the Sux.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Eovaldi could throw  
Deejboy : 4/17/2019 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14390690 RasputinPrime said:
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Consecutive perfect games and that contract would still have been the height of lunacy, IMO. I get that some level of overpay may have been practical for the huge role he played in last years WS run, but 4 * 17 is an outsized assumption of risk.



I don't think it was a bigger leap of faith than we took with Happ. With his age and clearly declining stuff, i'm still at a loss.



I was pretty outspoken against Happ, so I dont really disagree. But 4 guaranteed years vs 2 + vesting option is a fairly big step-down in risk.



Perhaps but Happ is 36 and Eovaldi is 29. I'll go for a younge arm with less tread more often than not.

Giving Eovaldi 4 years is pure lunacy. Eovaldi's arm doesn't necessarily come with less trend since he has had two TJS.
to be clear  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 6:57 pm : link
Eovaldi - pass
Happ - hard pass
RE: Who's the gray haired fuck that always sits behind home  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 6:57 pm : link
In comment 14390701 Jints in Carolina said:
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And roots for Boston. Same seat behind home only vs the Sux.


Someone needs to take him out and take Marlins Man with him. I can't stand that fucking orange idiot.
I guess when we said Happ sucks,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 7:00 pm : link
that had the double whammy reverse effect of him just sucking.
.  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 7:00 pm : link
Another HR.

Bad... bad... bad.....
Come on Happ  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 7:00 pm : link
are you fucking kidding me
Well  
Mike from SI : 4/17/2019 7:00 pm : link
This is going well.
What was Cashman thinking giving this guy 4 years?  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/17/2019 7:01 pm : link
(Pretty sure it's 4, right?)
Happ  
Percy : 4/17/2019 7:02 pm : link
When he can hit the corners he's OK, but over the middle of the plate he gets killed.
Hey Cone  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 7:02 pm : link
tell me about the spin rate of that HR ball that landed in the 10th row.
Kickstand is out of the game  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 7:05 pm : link
...
Not wanting to pay Corbin  
Kyle in NY : 4/17/2019 7:10 pm : link
Through his age 34 season but being ok with Happ age 36-38 remains baffling
JA Happ  
FrankieR : 4/17/2019 7:12 pm : link
was a mistake. He is forked. Awful in three starts. His stupid, non com0etitive face makes it worse.
RE: RE: Pedroia  
Beer Man : 4/17/2019 7:20 pm : link
In comment 14390493 CromartiesKid21 said:
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Is the gent washed up at this juncture...?



We haven't seen him in like 3 years but yeah probably
Exits the game after only one at bat
RE: What was Cashman thinking giving this guy 4 years?  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 7:24 pm : link
In comment 14390720 Dave in Hoboken said:
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(Pretty sure it's 4, right?)


J.A. Happ signed a 2 year / $34,000,000 contract with the New York Yankees, including $34,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $17,000,000. In 2019, Happ will earn a base salary of $17,000,000, while carrying a total salary of $17,000,000.
RE: RE: What was Cashman thinking giving this guy 4 years?  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/17/2019 7:26 pm : link
In comment 14390744 Jints in Carolina said:
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(Pretty sure it's 4, right?)



J.A. Happ signed a 2 year / $34,000,000 contract with the New York Yankees, including $34,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $17,000,000. In 2019, Happ will earn a base salary of $17,000,000, while carrying a total salary of $17,000,000.


Wow, okay that's better at least. Still though, he's looking quite toasty immediately into the contract. Hopefully, he can turn it around.
By comparison, Corbin will make $35 million dollars  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 7:27 pm : link
just in the 6th year of his deal with Washington.
official word is Pedroia  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 7:28 pm : link
left with an injured knee
Rays winning again 3-0  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 7:30 pm : link
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RE: RE: Who's the gray haired fuck that always sits behind home  
FrankieR : 4/17/2019 7:32 pm : link
In comment 14390711 arcarsenal said:
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And roots for Boston. Same seat behind home only vs the Sux.



Someone needs to take him out and take Marlins Man with him. I can't stand that fucking orange idiot.


You DO realize he is a lawyer, rarely goes to court and is a marketing object for his firm right?

He has the greatest life ever. He goes to all the events he wants to (many times grabbing ticket seekers to sit in his great company seats) and pretty much works remotely.

He is not exactly Fire Fuck Face Ed.
WTF... this guy had an 8 ERA coming into this game.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 7:33 pm : link
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RE: What was Cashman thinking giving this guy 4 years?  
section125 : 4/17/2019 7:34 pm : link
In comment 14390720 Dave in Hoboken said:
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(Pretty sure it's 4, right?)


3 years
Marlins Man is actually a pretty nice dude  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 7:35 pm : link
he gives free tickets to people to a lot of the games he goes to.
RE: RE: What was Cashman thinking giving this guy 4 years?  
section125 : 4/17/2019 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14390761 section125 said:
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(Pretty sure it's 4, right?)



3 years


oops 2 years...fat fingers
RE: What was Cashman thinking giving this guy 4 years?  
Beer Man : 4/17/2019 7:36 pm : link
In comment 14390720 Dave in Hoboken said:
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(Pretty sure it's 4, right?)
Nope, only two years
RE: RE: RE: Who's the gray haired fuck that always sits behind home  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14390759 FrankieR said:
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And roots for Boston. Same seat behind home only vs the Sux.



Someone needs to take him out and take Marlins Man with him. I can't stand that fucking orange idiot.



You DO realize he is a lawyer, rarely goes to court and is a marketing object for his firm right?

He has the greatest life ever. He goes to all the events he wants to (many times grabbing ticket seekers to sit in his great company seats) and pretty much works remotely.

He is not exactly Fire Fuck Face Ed.


What does any of that have to do with anything?
I'm glad DJ backed that up so I don't have to curse out Happ  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 7:38 pm : link
...
.  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 7:38 pm : link
(And yes, I'm aware of his background)

He's a fucking eyesore and I'm tired of seeing his florescent "uniform" behind home plate every other time I watch a baseball game.
LMAO Happ  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 7:38 pm : link
good effort....i guess
RE: .  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 7:39 pm : link
In comment 14390779 arcarsenal said:
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(And yes, I'm aware of his background)

He's a fucking eyesore and I'm tired of seeing his florescent "uniform" behind home plate every other time I watch a baseball game.


LOL relax Arc...have a beer
Voit  
Nine-Tails : 4/17/2019 7:41 pm : link
Reaction was priceless, like wtf you doing
RE: LMAO Happ  
section125 : 4/17/2019 7:41 pm : link
In comment 14390780 Jints in Carolina said:
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good effort....i guess


Yeah, as opposed to turning and throwing...dumb move.
Good AB by Voit.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 7:43 pm : link
Let's get something/anything going.
RE: WTF... this guy had an 8 ERA coming into this game.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/17/2019 7:44 pm : link
In comment 14390760 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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It's about to be lower.
Yanks catch a break.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 7:44 pm : link
Let's go Clint!
.  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 7:44 pm : link
Thanks, Eduardo Scissorhands.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Who's the gray haired fuck that always sits behind home  
FrankieR : 4/17/2019 7:44 pm : link
In comment 14390776 arcarsenal said:
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And roots for Boston. Same seat behind home only vs the Sux.



Someone needs to take him out and take Marlins Man with him. I can't stand that fucking orange idiot.



You DO realize he is a lawyer, rarely goes to court and is a marketing object for his firm right?

He has the greatest life ever. He goes to all the events he wants to (many times grabbing ticket seekers to sit in his great company seats) and pretty much works remotely.

He is not exactly Fire Fuck Face Ed.



What does any of that have to do with anything?



Ummmmm, he actually has a purpose???? Other than an olf man being a cheerleader?

You really have trouble seeing how he actually has a purpose and the other guy is a pom pom?
Oops...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 7:45 pm : link
DJ is up.
RE: RE: .  
FrankieR : 4/17/2019 7:45 pm : link
In comment 14390781 Jints in Carolina said:
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(And yes, I'm aware of his background)

He's a fucking eyesore and I'm tired of seeing his florescent "uniform" behind home plate every other time I watch a baseball game.



LOL relax Arc...have a beer


Or a xanax
no fighting please  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 7:46 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 7:47 pm : link
In comment 14390797 FrankieR said:
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(And yes, I'm aware of his background)

He's a fucking eyesore and I'm tired of seeing his florescent "uniform" behind home plate every other time I watch a baseball game.



LOL relax Arc...have a beer



Or a xanax


What was your last handle, jackass?

Get lost.
There you go Clint!!!!  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 7:50 pm : link
3-1.
,  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 7:50 pm : link
Thunder has arrived.

Don't think he's ever going back down to Scranton at this point.
Frazier  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 7:50 pm : link
has arrived.

His lightning hands are on display today. Nice double.

3-1
Red Thunder!  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 7:50 pm : link
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Did I forget to say Tauchman sucks before the game  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 7:54 pm : link
because he's actually sucking now.
Dammit Tauchman  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 7:55 pm : link
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calling pitches out of the zone strikes  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 7:56 pm : link
when they never never call pitches in the zone a ball, tells me these umps need to get the memo.

These pitchers don't need help.
.  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 7:57 pm : link
LOL. Steve Pearce... cmon.
Fucking Steve Pearce.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 7:57 pm : link
Never has a scrub fucked the Yankees in so many ways with so many teams.
Computer home plate umps coming soon  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 7:57 pm : link
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hey Pearce (you fucking buttplug)  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 7:59 pm : link

Jesus dude  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 8:01 pm : link
.
Judge need to attack that damn first pitch fastball  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 8:10 pm : link
right over the fucking plate
These AAA players are killing  
section125 : 4/17/2019 8:12 pm : link
the Yanks. They are doing their best but hard to play MLB with 4 or 5 Milbers playing every night.
Jesus Christ just walk  
FrankieR : 4/17/2019 8:17 pm : link
JD
Get it over  
FrankieR : 4/17/2019 8:17 pm : link
With
RE: These AAA players are killing  
Eman11 : 4/17/2019 8:18 pm : link
In comment 14390881 section125 said:
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the Yanks. They are doing their best but hard to play MLB with 4 or 5 Milbers playing every night.


Yeah man but we just have to deal with them for now and hope they can contribute something offensively. I found for me not expecting anything works best and if they do something it's a bonus. I'm not gonna get bummed at them if I don't expect anything.

We need the vets and even Frazier to carry the load for now.
ball 4 on Voit  
Del Shofner : 4/17/2019 8:25 pm : link
called strike 3.
Voit gets umped...  
section125 : 4/17/2019 8:27 pm : link
Piss poor - 4 inches off the plate. Voits eye much better than the ump.
LeMahieu gets  
section125 : 4/17/2019 8:31 pm : link
umped.. that was closer, but still outside.
Voit looks like a young Jason Giambi in the field.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 8:35 pm : link
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RE: Voit looks like a young Jason Giambi in the field.  
section125 : 4/17/2019 8:36 pm : link
In comment 14390943 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Ha ha was just thinking the same thing. Looks like a foundering turtle...Made a great play and rushed the throw.
.  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 8:38 pm : link
Joel Sherman

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Will 1st guess here: With off-day Monday, Paxton 8 IP yesterday and only Harvey used out of pen, I think Ottavino or Britton should be in rather than Kahnle try to hold at 3-1 with #RedSox bullpen just about to get into game for dominating Eovaldi. #Yankees
God I despise Eovaldi  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2019 8:38 pm : link
Sonofabitch was crap for us, and still is crap against everyone but yhe Yanks.

Also nice to see yet another garbage hitter of a catcher hurt them.
there are 8 hits between them tonight  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 8:39 pm : link
this ump sucks #1d0ng all night.

Why do we need to hear about the "fallacy of the predetermined outcome" every damn time Kay can slip it in?
Pleasantly surprised Kahnle gets the job done.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 8:41 pm : link
Clint, then 3 other guys up.
Get some runs!  
PetesHereNow : 4/17/2019 8:41 pm : link
This one aint over, boys!
Let's get to their bullpen  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 8:42 pm : link
this ain't over.
RE: .  
section125 : 4/17/2019 8:44 pm : link
In comment 14390954 Jints in Carolina said:
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Joel Sherman

Verified account

Will 1st guess here: With off-day Monday, Paxton 8 IP yesterday and only Harvey used out of pen, I think Ottavino or Britton should be in rather than Kahnle try to hold at 3-1 with #RedSox bullpen just about to get into game for dominating Eovaldi. #Yankees


Guess Joel was wrong Kahnle looked great there..
Clint isn't going back to SWB.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 8:45 pm : link
Let's go Tauchman.
.  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 8:46 pm : link
Frazier again. 3-3.

Their bullpen is fucking trash. Let's win this game.
This just happened, I'm watching the ESPN broadcast with Jon Sciambi  
Waldo Jeffers : 4/17/2019 8:46 pm : link
and Eduardo Perez.

They simply never stop talking. Never.

It was driving me nuts.

I found myself yelling "Shut the fuck up" along with an abundant cornucopia of colorful obscenities.

On the phone and into the room walks my wife.

As I was screaming "Shut the Fuck Up you worthless piece of shit."

Currently, she is not speaking to me.

Which, in a way, is a win.

But the air sure is chilly in here.
RE: RE: .  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 8:47 pm : link
In comment 14390975 section125 said:
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In comment 14390954 Jints in Carolina said:


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Joel Sherman

Verified account

Will 1st guess here: With off-day Monday, Paxton 8 IP yesterday and only Harvey used out of pen, I think Ottavino or Britton should be in rather than Kahnle try to hold at 3-1 with #RedSox bullpen just about to get into game for dominating Eovaldi. #Yankees



Guess Joel was wrong Kahnle looked great there..


He followed it up and said Boone was obviously correct.
3 runs off this BP  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 8:48 pm : link
is very doable. Just chip away.
.  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 8:48 pm : link
We're in business. Let's go.
fuck you ump  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 8:50 pm : link
fuck you long time.
At least Urshela can field  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 8:51 pm : link
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what's the difference between 2-1 and 1-2 counts?  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 8:51 pm : link
chasing a pitch for strike three.
Umpire has a strike zone 4 inches outside  
section125 : 4/17/2019 8:52 pm : link
off the plate.
RE: fuck you ump  
Eman11 : 4/17/2019 8:54 pm : link
In comment 14390998 RasputinPrime said:
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fuck you long time.


Yeah he's a pitchers ump no doubt with that outside pitch but he's been calling it a strike all night. The hitters have to adjust. I'd be more pisssed if he wasn't consistent with it.
Finally  
Percy : 4/17/2019 8:56 pm : link
One so far outside even this ump couldn't call it a strike. Had me worried though.
RE: RE: fuck you ump  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 8:56 pm : link
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fuck you long time.



Yeah he's a pitchers ump no doubt with that outside pitch but he's been calling it a strike all night. The hitters have to adjust. I'd be more pisssed if he wasn't consistent with it.


Try telling your clients that you are consistently going to provide a service other than what they pay for and see what happens.

If pitchers are allowed to micro-dissect every aspect of their craft and managers are allowed to use unimaginable stats to shift defenses from pitch to pitch, the umpires need to get with the robot-program.
GARDY GO BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 8:59 pm : link
...
.  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 8:59 pm : link
GARDY!!!!!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 8:59 pm : link
.
Gardy go slammy-yardy!!!!  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 8:59 pm : link
5-3 baby
Hahahaha...yes!  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2019 8:59 pm : link
Now pour it on these fucks
Gardy is DONE!  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:00 pm : link
DONE I tell you.....

Eff me he has 4 Grand Salamis....
Happy  
DC Gmen Fan : 4/17/2019 9:00 pm : link
100 HRs! What a way to get it.
HOLY SH*T!  
Percy : 4/17/2019 9:01 pm : link
Enormous. And from whom? Gardner. Comes through again.
RE: RE: RE: fuck you ump  
Eman11 : 4/17/2019 9:02 pm : link
In comment 14391023 RasputinPrime said:
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fuck you long time.



Yeah he's a pitchers ump no doubt with that outside pitch but he's been calling it a strike all night. The hitters have to adjust. I'd be more pisssed if he wasn't consistent with it.



Try telling your clients that you are consistently going to provide a service other than what they pay for and see what happens.

If pitchers are allowed to micro-dissect every aspect of their craft and managers are allowed to use unimaginable stats to shift defenses from pitch to pitch, the umpires need to get with the robot-program.


Cmon man, it's baseball and this kind of shit has been going on forever. You can't compare it to our everyday workplace.

There's no doubt it bugs me he's calling those outside pitches strikes when they're clearly balls, but he has been calling that pitch the same way all night. If it was sometimes a strike and others a ball, that would really piss me off and drive me nuts.

If you've ever heard players talk about strike zones they just want it called consistently all night, and I feel the same when I watch.

That said.....

GARDY!!!!!!
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:03 pm : link
Judge gets umped yet again...
fuck this ump  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 9:03 pm : link
and every one of his brothers who seem incapable of aJudgesting their strikezone.
Wow another  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:03 pm : link
bad strike call.
Absolute bullshit  
Nine-Tails : 4/17/2019 9:04 pm : link
That strike three call. Judge is the most unfairly umped player in the league. Yankees have to do something about this. You would think the umps would show more respect to him, considering he never argues back. But hey if they like being treated poorly by players, then glory to them
Judge gets more awful called strike 3s  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2019 9:05 pm : link
Than any player I've seen in my entire life
Ottavino  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:05 pm : link
then Chapman??????
RE: Judge gets more awful called strike 3s  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:05 pm : link
In comment 14391047 Greg from LI said:
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Than any player I've seen in my entire life


Literally a shin-high strike.

Maddening.
RE: Absolute bullshit  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 9:06 pm : link
In comment 14391045 Nine-Tails said:
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That strike three call. Judge is the most unfairly umped player in the league. Yankees have to do something about this. You would think the umps would show more respect to him, considering he never argues back. But hey if they like being treated poorly by players, then glory to them


Keep in mind that he then has to adjust and he is whiffing at sliders down and away because he has to protect the zone that is being called. It's just not good for baseball to have the best players fucked over.
RE: Wow another  
Percy : 4/17/2019 9:06 pm : link
In comment 14391041 section125 said:
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bad strike call.

Totally. And all against the Yankee hitters.
ask yourself  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 9:07 pm : link
when was the last time an actual low strike to Judge was called a ball?

Tie goes to the runner then it should go to the hitter in the box.
And now the strike zone shrinks for Ottavino  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2019 9:08 pm : link
Because of course
And the 1st Ottavino  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:09 pm : link
pitch is called a ball? This umpire sucks.
RE: fuck this ump  
Eman11 : 4/17/2019 9:09 pm : link
In comment 14391040 RasputinPrime said:
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and every one of his brothers who seem incapable of aJudgesting their strikezone.


I'm with you on that one lol.

It's one thing to call it a little off the plate again but no way in hell that ball wasn't low on Judge.

Your call on them not accounting for his height is spot on. I said it last year, the umps have a high/low strike zone in their minds eye and call it the same no matter what but they're failing to raise if for a guy Judges height. We're seeing a bit of that on Voit as well.

We had one good ump the other night who wouldn't give that too low stike when Judge was up and he's one of the only ones who's adjusted. Even O'Neill noticed it and said it was about time.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:09 pm : link
I love watching Otto pitch. Guy is just disgusting.
Gave it to him that time though  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2019 9:10 pm : link
Strike three was the exact same pitch as ball one
RE: And the 1st Ottavino  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:10 pm : link
In comment 14391059 section125 said:
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pitch is called a ball? This umpire sucks.


Now it is a strike on strike 3?
Huge HR by Gardy!  
mfsd : 4/17/2019 9:10 pm : link
Yeah, Judge and some other guys have gotten umped tonight, but gutsy job coming back, now just have to finish it

All things being equal, not a bad night for Happ...2 early HRs, but got through 6 1/3 giving up only those 3 runs.

Stay close and beat the Sox bullpen is the formula
I agree on Happ  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 9:11 pm : link
he gave up those gopher balls but was otherwise decent.
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FrankieR : 4/17/2019 9:12 pm : link
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(And yes, I'm aware of his background)

He's a fucking eyesore and I'm tired of seeing his florescent "uniform" behind home plate every other time I watch a baseball game.



LOL relax Arc...have a beer



Or a xanax



What was your last handle, jackass?

Get lost.


Im not going to start a fight...I am relishing this come back, but werent you rooting for the Mets this time last year?

Just saying...
E6  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:12 pm : link
tough but E6.
RE: RE: Absolute bullshit  
Nine-Tails : 4/17/2019 9:13 pm : link
In comment 14391052 RasputinPrime said:
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That strike three call. Judge is the most unfairly umped player in the league. Yankees have to do something about this. You would think the umps would show more respect to him, considering he never argues back. But hey if they like being treated poorly by players, then glory to them



Keep in mind that he then has to adjust and he is whiffing at sliders down and away because he has to protect the zone that is being called. It's just not good for baseball to have the best players fucked over.


Sadly you are right about this, but sucks that judge has to over compensate for umps not being able to do their JOBS. But, on the flip side, Jose Altuve doesn't have the same problem, the umps give him the benefit of doubt for his small strike zone.
Yanks should throw a party the day Steve Pearce retires  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 9:13 pm : link
...
Fuck Pearce with a rusty icepick  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2019 9:14 pm : link
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RE: I agree on Happ  
FrankieR : 4/17/2019 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14391072 Jints in Carolina said:
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he gave up those gopher balls but was otherwise decent.


Agreed. But my true hero is Kahnle if we're talking pitching. He looks like he is back to (or close) his '17 self.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14391074 FrankieR said:
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Im not going to start a fight...I am relishing this come back, but werent you rooting for the Mets this time last year?

Just saying...


You have a habit of starting crap with older posters.
Wtf did he not have a lefty up?  
PetesHereNow : 4/17/2019 9:15 pm : link
Wtf?
RE: RE: fuck you ump  
BigBlueShock : 4/17/2019 9:17 pm : link
In comment 14391015 Eman11 said:
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fuck you long time.



Yeah he's a pitchers ump no doubt with that outside pitch but he's been calling it a strike all night. The hitters have to adjust. I'd be more pisssed if he wasn't consistent with it.

Yeah, god forbid umpires actually get evaluated like the rest of the world and be told to do better. You cannot ask hitters to swing at balls 4 inches outside of the zone. How about the ump be accountable for the shit job he does?

I dont give a rats ass about consistency. Being consistently wrong doesnt make it right. Be better at your job. The fact these guys arent evaluated and held accountable is mind numbing. And if they ARE being held accountable, why do they continue to get to use the pitchers ump excuse? A strike is a freakin strike. We dont get to make our own rules. Its frustrating as all hell.
What the fuck is going on here  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 9:17 pm : link
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Phew...  
rnargi : 4/17/2019 9:18 pm : link
...
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:18 pm : link
Fuck yes. Huge out.
Thank God for Eduardo Scissorhands  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2019 9:18 pm : link
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Ottavino  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:18 pm : link
is John Wetteland part II.
RE: Wtf did he not have a lefty up?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2019 9:18 pm : link
In comment 14391086 PetesHereNow said:
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Wtf?


Otto gets out of it, but yeah... that didn't make any sense. If he was going to get Chappy up anyway, he should've been ready for Moreland.
RE: Ottavino  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 9:18 pm : link
In comment 14391096 section125 said:
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is John Wetteland part II.


LOL no shit
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:18 pm : link
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(And yes, I'm aware of his background)

He's a fucking eyesore and I'm tired of seeing his florescent "uniform" behind home plate every other time I watch a baseball game.



LOL relax Arc...have a beer



Or a xanax



What was your last handle, jackass?

Get lost.



Im not going to start a fight...I am relishing this come back, but werent you rooting for the Mets this time last year?

Just saying...


You weren't here last year, you fucking dopey shithead.

Again, get lost. Thanks!
RE: What the fuck is going on here  
mfsd : 4/17/2019 9:19 pm : link
In comment 14391091 Jints in Carolina said:
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Seriously. 2 quick outs then Otto loses it. WTF
.  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:19 pm : link
Surprise Britton wasn't up just in case... or Chapman wasn't up until the bases were loaded... but, I guess on good rest, Boone was going to live or die with Otto there.
Last Out  
Percy : 4/17/2019 9:20 pm : link
Heart attack city. What a relief!
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:20 pm : link
In comment 14391099 arcarsenal said:
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You weren't here last year, you fucking dopey shithead.

Again, get lost. Thanks!


Probably was as some other banned knucklehead.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:23 pm : link
Yep.. one of the 5-10 dupes that just circulate around this board over and over and over again. Yawn.
RE: RE: RE: fuck you ump  
Eman11 : 4/17/2019 9:24 pm : link
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fuck you long time.



Yeah he's a pitchers ump no doubt with that outside pitch but he's been calling it a strike all night. The hitters have to adjust. I'd be more pisssed if he wasn't consistent with it.


Yeah, god forbid umpires actually get evaluated like the rest of the world and be told to do better. You cannot ask hitters to swing at balls 4 inches outside of the zone. How about the ump be accountable for the shit job he does?

I dont give a rats ass about consistency. Being consistently wrong doesnt make it right. Be better at your job. The fact these guys arent evaluated and held accountable is mind numbing. And if they ARE being held accountable, why do they continue to get to use the pitchers ump excuse? A strike is a freakin strike. We dont get to make our own rules. Its frustrating as all hell.


I agree and in now way saying it's acceptable. They should be better no question.

I'm only pointing out its been going on forever in baseball and he has for the most part been calling that pitch off the plate a strike all night. We can see it and the hitters should to.

They need to adjust to that or accept being punched out. It sucks but that's the reality tonight. If he was back and forth with it then yeah, I think they'd bemore prone to take it and hope maybe this time he gets it right but it's not happening like that tonight and at least he's been consistent in that shitty call. That can be adjusted to but inconsistency can't.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
BigBlueShock : 4/17/2019 9:27 pm : link
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(And yes, I'm aware of his background)

He's a fucking eyesore and I'm tired of seeing his florescent "uniform" behind home plate every other time I watch a baseball game.



LOL relax Arc...have a beer



Or a xanax



What was your last handle, jackass?

Get lost.



Im not going to start a fight...I am relishing this come back, but werent you rooting for the Mets this time last year?

Just saying...

If the decision is between arc and you, youre not going to like the results. arc is an awesome poster and well respected. Nobody knows who the hell you are. So a word of advice? Tone it down and contribute or get lost. Youre obviously a dupe, and I dont care either way. But please dont ruin game threads.
the first rule of Yankees Club  
RasputinPrime : 4/17/2019 9:29 pm : link
is there is no fighting before sex.
RE: RE: RE: RE: fuck you ump  
BigBlueShock : 4/17/2019 9:31 pm : link
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fuck you long time.



Yeah he's a pitchers ump no doubt with that outside pitch but he's been calling it a strike all night. The hitters have to adjust. I'd be more pisssed if he wasn't consistent with it.


Yeah, god forbid umpires actually get evaluated like the rest of the world and be told to do better. You cannot ask hitters to swing at balls 4 inches outside of the zone. How about the ump be accountable for the shit job he does?

I dont give a rats ass about consistency. Being consistently wrong doesnt make it right. Be better at your job. The fact these guys arent evaluated and held accountable is mind numbing. And if they ARE being held accountable, why do they continue to get to use the pitchers ump excuse? A strike is a freakin strike. We dont get to make our own rules. Its frustrating as all hell.



I agree and in now way saying it's acceptable. They should be better no question.

I'm only pointing out its been going on forever in baseball and he has for the most part been calling that pitch off the plate a strike all night. We can see it and the hitters should to.

They need to adjust to that or accept being punched out. It sucks but that's the reality tonight. If he was back and forth with it then yeah, I think they'd bemore prone to take it and hope maybe this time he gets it right but it's not happening like that tonight and at least he's been consistent in that shitty call. That can be adjusted to but inconsistency can't.

Expecting a player to swing at a ball that far off the plate is ludicrous. Theres nothing they can do with that pitch. I would watch it go by 1000 times out of 1000. You have to trust the IMO to be competent at his job. You cant just sail away at a pitch out of the zone because the ump may call it a strike
Sa....WEEET!!  
rnargi : 4/17/2019 9:35 pm : link
!!!
sweeeeeeeeeep  
Jints in Carolina : 4/17/2019 9:35 pm : link
I am 5-2 starting game threads....just sayin'
,  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:37 pm : link
Ballgame. So glad we took both of these.

Wipes a lot of that bad taste from the weekend away.

Hopefully we're starting to even out a little and get on track. Gary is on the way back. Stanton is working his way. Hicks is feeling good.

Not all of the reinforcements are on the way, but some are... and those guys will definitely help. We should get a couple back before May.

Not sure if we'll get all these games in against KC - weather is looking iffy - but I'd really like to see us take 3 of 4 there.
Maybe CC  
Jay in Toronto : 4/17/2019 9:37 pm : link
Could teach Happ his cutter. Keep the lefty tradition going.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2019 9:37 pm : link
(Also, sorry for derailing the thread... I wasn't that angry about Marlins Man, I just don't like his ugly jersey... or dupes)
BB shoc  
Eman11 : 4/17/2019 9:38 pm : link
It's not that far off the plate. Definitely off by a couple of inches and I agree the first time you let that go by. Thing is though after seeing it called all night at least a dozen or more times you know it's getting called a strike. Well at least you should. Eovaldi certainly knew it was being called and kept going for it.

Players in the booth from the Scooter to Murcer, Kaat, to the guys we have now have all said the same thing. Umps miss calls all the time but they just want them to be consistent so they can adjust as the game goes on.

I wish it wasn't that way but it is. Again, it's not acceptable to me either but I get more pissed at umps who are inconsistent. That really drives me nuts.

Thankfully it didn't cost us tonight and a fantastic win by our guys and even more so because it was against the Sox!
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
FrankieR : 4/17/2019 9:39 pm : link
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(And yes, I'm aware of his background)

He's a fucking eyesore and I'm tired of seeing his florescent "uniform" behind home plate every other time I watch a baseball game.



LOL relax Arc...have a beer



Or a xanax



What was your last handle, jackass?

Get lost.



Im not going to start a fight...I am relishing this come back, but werent you rooting for the Mets this time last year?

Just saying...


If the decision is between arc and you, youre not going to like the results. arc is an awesome poster and well respected. Nobody knows who the hell you are. So a word of advice? Tone it down and contribute or get lost. Youre obviously a dupe, and I dont care either way. But please dont ruin game threads.


I wanted to wait until after the game to respond out of respect.

I am yes, a recent member. I am also a Yankee fan of over 45 years. I have lurked this board for a while. I found it annoying that I was called out for being a dupe by somebody and I responded. I cant see how his response to me was necessary while my response was tame and tongue in cheek.

Good win for the Yanks. Many of you need to lighten up
While it is true that all the players  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:40 pm : link
ask for is a consistent strike zone, it is still annoying that guys with really good eyes gets punched out on balls 4 inches off the plate.

But Chapman's velo is edging up. 98-100 with close to a wipe out slider.

Love that Gardy wins it on an 0-2 grand slam...
Great win!!  
mfsd : 4/17/2019 9:40 pm : link
Amazing how beating the Red Sox twice makes things feel better about the season. Decent pitching, and a monster clutch HR by Gardy.

How great has Frazier been? Finally got his shot and hes running with it
RE: sweeeeeeeeeep  
FrankieR : 4/17/2019 9:41 pm : link
In comment 14391148 Jints in Carolina said:
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I am 5-2 starting game threads....just sayin'


So keep making them!
RE: RE: sweeeeeeeeeep  
section125 : 4/17/2019 9:43 pm : link
In comment 14391167 FrankieR said:
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I am 5-2 starting game threads....just sayin'



So keep making them!


This...+1
RE: While it is true that all the players  
Eman11 : 4/17/2019 9:45 pm : link
In comment 14391165 section125 said:
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ask for is a consistent strike zone, it is still annoying that guys with really good eyes gets punched out on balls 4 inches off the plate.

But Chapman's velo is edging up. 98-100 with close to a wipe out slider.

Love that Gardy wins it on an 0-2 grand slam...


Absolutely section. I agree all around.

I'm as annoyed as anyone else with those calls, but I was just trying to point out he was consistent with it, and I get less annoyed when an ump is consistent with a pitch all night than when he's inconsistent with it.

I certainly wasn't giving him a pass for making those bad calls.

Let's roll the Royals next and keep the momentum going.
RE: RE: RE: sweeeeeeeeeep  
Percy : 4/17/2019 9:49 pm : link
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I am 5-2 starting game threads....just sayin'



So keep making them!



This...+1


Keep it up!
Hey if I get Yankees games on local NYC cable  
Rover : 4/17/2019 9:56 pm : link
Aren't I supposed to be able to watch them anywhere with Fox Sports Go?
Haven't seen them on there...
Is Frazier considered a rookie this year?  
mattyblue : 4/17/2019 10:07 pm : link
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RE: Is Frazier considered a rookie this year?  
section125 : 4/17/2019 10:11 pm : link
In comment 14391213 mattyblue said:
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He had 134 ABs in 2017. I think once you reach 130 AB is a year, that is your rookie year...iirc.
RE: Hey if I get Yankees games on local NYC cable  
Stu11 : 4/17/2019 10:12 pm : link
In comment 14391203 Rover said:
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Aren't I supposed to be able to watch them anywhere with Fox Sports Go?
Haven't seen them on there...

Only the gameson YES are on the Fox app. The games in Pix11 are not.
RE: RE: While it is true that all the players  
BigBlueShock : 4/17/2019 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14391179 Eman11 said:
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ask for is a consistent strike zone, it is still annoying that guys with really good eyes gets punched out on balls 4 inches off the plate.

But Chapman's velo is edging up. 98-100 with close to a wipe out slider.

Love that Gardy wins it on an 0-2 grand slam...



Absolutely section. I agree all around.

I'm as annoyed as anyone else with those calls, but I was just trying to point out he was consistent with it, and I get less annoyed when an ump is consistent with a pitch all night than when he's inconsistent with it.

I certainly wasn't giving him a pass for making those bad calls.

Let's roll the Royals next and keep the momentum going.

Eman, I get it. But the thing that drives me insane is that these umps obviously have no accountability. Why hasnt someone pulled this guy aside and showed him the video. Say look, those pitches are not strikes. Why does he get to keep running out there calling shitty games? Where the accountability? In this day and age of technology, simply saying hes a pitchers ump doesnt fly. Be better. Thats all I ask
RE: RE: RE: While it is true that all the players  
Eman11 : 4/17/2019 11:06 pm : link
In comment 14391247 BigBlueShock said:
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ask for is a consistent strike zone, it is still annoying that guys with really good eyes gets punched out on balls 4 inches off the plate.

But Chapman's velo is edging up. 98-100 with close to a wipe out slider.

Love that Gardy wins it on an 0-2 grand slam...



Absolutely section. I agree all around.

I'm as annoyed as anyone else with those calls, but I was just trying to point out he was consistent with it, and I get less annoyed when an ump is consistent with a pitch all night than when he's inconsistent with it.

I certainly wasn't giving him a pass for making those bad calls.

Let's roll the Royals next and keep the momentum going.


Eman, I get it. But the thing that drives me insane is that these umps obviously have no accountability. Why hasnt someone pulled this guy aside and showed him the video. Say look, those pitches are not strikes. Why does he get to keep running out there calling shitty games? Where the accountability? In this day and age of technology, simply saying hes a pitchers ump doesnt fly. Be better. Thats all I ask


Absolutely man. You'd think they'd get reviewed and evaluated just like players do but we never hear if that happens.

Plus the whole you can't argue balls and strikes just gives these umps even more power and it's like a built in excuse to not have to account for anything. They're judge and jury and it doesn't seem like there is much recourse.

I know teams can file complaints but we never see much if any improvement. Just look at guys like Angel Hernandez and CB Buckner still having jobs for proof it's not a performance based job. Maybe if they were all forced to face the media post game like players it would help. Could you imagine the ump tonight being asked over and over by reporters about those outside pitches? Now that's a postgame I'd watch!
Helluva comeback win.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/17/2019 11:13 pm : link
We've all been a bit frustrated with Gardy, myself included, so I'm happy he got the BIG hit tonight. Good for him. Hopefully this sweep is this team turning the corner.
We needed  
FrankieR : 4/17/2019 11:22 pm : link
A break and got it when Gardy went deep. According to stat cast, the given distance would yield a home run in ONE of 30 ballparks.

2 in a row
credit to Happ  
bigbluehoya : 4/17/2019 11:38 pm : link
For keeping his head screwed on straight and giving them length after some rocky early moments.

As much as Ive been down on Gardy as an every-day player and leadoff hitter, nice piece of hitting in a big spot

Nice little mini-leverage spot to get to see Kahnle tonight. He looks good.

More and more, were going to look back on this shitty string of injuries and underwhelming play and think hey, at least we were forced to give Frazier a truly every-day big league look. The kid can hit. He should be part of the equation for this team. Maybe hes here long term and maybe he isnt, but the point is that he has real value.

Nice win.
It's not Gardner's fault  
Deejboy : 4/18/2019 12:35 am : link
that everyone got hurt and he has been forced to play everyday and in CF no less. I don't know why Yankees fans would bash him since he is playing due to injuries. He was suppose to be the 4th OFer and ultimately was going to give way to Frazier. The irony that there have been so many injuries that Frazier has been able to establish himself with regular playing time. When everyone is back healthy Gardner will be the 5th OFer since Frazier will probably be the everyday LFer.
Frazier...  
manh george : 4/18/2019 1:07 am : link
had a hitch in his swing in 2017. He kicked his right foot back away from the plate before striding with his left.

That's gone, and his swing looks really sweet.
SoSH  
GruningsOnTheHill : 4/18/2019 7:27 am : link
Whenever I read though the popular Red Sox board following a big NYY win, the talk there invariably devolves into what a joke of a stadium "the toilet" is with the short RF porch, and today is no exception. Same with the few Red Sox friends I have at work. They never want to talk about the shortest HR in ball--the 302ft shot to Pesky Pole in Fenway--nor the Green Monster...stickball anyone?
Frazier had a rash of beginner's luck...  
Dunedin81 : 4/18/2019 8:21 am : link
and when his luck started to change he tried to sell out for power. This time around he's being consistent with his approach and the results are a lot better on the whole. He's a good player, and he's going to be a big part of the solution until some of the walking wounded start returning to the fold.
RE: SoSH  
section125 : 4/18/2019 8:28 am : link
In comment 14391405 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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Whenever I read though the popular Red Sox board following a big NYY win, the talk there invariably devolves into what a joke of a stadium "the toilet" is with the short RF porch, and today is no exception. Same with the few Red Sox friends I have at work. They never want to talk about the shortest HR in ball--the 302ft shot to Pesky Pole in Fenway--nor the Green Monster...stickball anyone?


Haha - I guess Vazquez's HR wasn't porched? As O'Neill said last night, maybe it wasn't a HR in any other stadium, but it was at least a double and probably bases clearing at that...so much ado about nothing.
RE: RE: SoSH  
Eman11 : 4/18/2019 8:37 am : link
In comment 14391458 section125 said:
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In comment 14391405 GruningsOnTheHill said:


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Whenever I read though the popular Red Sox board following a big NYY win, the talk there invariably devolves into what a joke of a stadium "the toilet" is with the short RF porch, and today is no exception. Same with the few Red Sox friends I have at work. They never want to talk about the shortest HR in ball--the 302ft shot to Pesky Pole in Fenway--nor the Green Monster...stickball anyone?



Haha - I guess Vazquez's HR wasn't porched? As O'Neill said last night, maybe it wasn't a HR in any other stadium, but it was at least a double and probably bases clearing at that...so much ado about nothing.


Yup. To me it's silly to complain about dimensions in ball parks. Their differences are part of baseball's charm to me.

Complaining about them or making excuses comes across as sour grapes to me because I think we've all seen visiting teams also take advantage of the porch, Pesky pole, Green Monster etc.
as injured as the Yankees have been  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/18/2019 8:45 am : link
and as bad as they've played in close games to start the season, the key number to see is that they currently have a 3 game lead on the Sox.

The Rays will cool off. It's the best run organization in the game, perhaps, but I don't think they have the horses to keep this up. I think the Yankees will not only catch the Rays, but will be fine by season's end for at least a wild card spot.
The Rays are a weird team...  
Dunedin81 : 4/18/2019 8:50 am : link
certainly the best in the sport right now at getting a lot out of a little. Charlie Morton probably comes back to earth, but Snell/Glasnow could be quite a 1-2 punch (at the very least, a healthy Snell is an elite pitcher) and that back end of the pen is dominant. But even if Austin Meadows is legit and Tommy Pham is underrated, the rest of the offensive performance from that team is way ahead of career norms.

I have no idea whether on the whole that's a 75-win team or a 90-win team.
RE: The Rays are a weird team...  
Carson53 : 4/18/2019 9:59 am : link
In comment 14391502 Dunedin81 said:
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certainly the best in the sport right now at getting a lot out of a little. Charlie Morton probably comes back to earth, but Snell/Glasnow could be quite a 1-2 punch (at the very least, a healthy Snell is an elite pitcher) and that back end of the pen is dominant. But even if Austin Meadows is legit and Tommy Pham is underrated, the rest of the offensive performance from that team is way ahead of career norms.

I have no idea whether on the whole that's a 75-win team or a 90-win team.
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They are off to a great start like the Sawx
last year, don't think they are a fluke....
At least as far as being a good team, it's a long season.
I am not saying they will do anything like the Sawx,
simply pointing out a similar great start.
The Sawx started out 17-2 last year IIRC.
The Yanks need to tread water for awhile, until the walking wounded start coming back.
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arcarsenal : 4/18/2019 10:37 am : link
I think Tampa is a 90 win team. I think they're legit.

Not quite this legit - but they're good.

That said, they're not the 108-win team Boston was last year and the Yanks are better when reasonably healthy.

Will we get reasonably healthy this year? I hope so.

I'm not going to write Boston off yet. Not for a while. But they have real problems there that I don't think are just going to disappear... especially with their pitching.
Just a reminder  
Greg from LI : 4/18/2019 11:15 am : link
The Boston Red Sox have the worst record in the AL.

:)
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