Not trying to be a contrarian hipster about it either. I've never watched a second of it and never will. I get what it's about and appreciate that a lot of people like it but it just doesn't interest me whatsoever
All seriousness, i think people who don't have interest look at it as a genre that doesn't interest them. At least that's how I initially looked at it.
But in reality, a good story is a good story, and Game of Thrones is a great one!! If your into good TV, you are missing out.
This is not to say I could not get into it, just never have ...
I ended up watching the Sopranos last year for the first time. Once I picked up all the cultural references, I lost interest, about season 3.
This is not to say I am above such things, I'll still watch the old Star Treks, liked Breaking Bad, and suffered through the torture that was Walking Dead.
I don't think I made it past the first episode, doesn't make it stupid or anything. At the same time, I don't give a rat's ass if someone calls me lame or whatever for enjoying watching football every weekend in the fall, thinking the Office is funny, requesting bananas slices in my cereal and lap cats.
I had no clue what the show was about all those years ago, but the pilot got me hooked. Even though it's not as consistent as a show like Breaking Bad, the peak moments of GoT certainly puts it in the pantheon of great television dramas.
I don't think I made it past the first episode, doesn't make it stupid or anything. At the same time, I don't give a rat's ass if someone calls me lame or whatever for enjoying watching football every weekend in the fall, thinking the Office is funny, requesting bananas slices in my cereal and lap cats.
To each their own?
U need to get past at least 1 of the 67 episodes that are out there. I understand if medieval/sci Fi is not your thing (I actually don’t have much interest in that genre either)....but GoT is a GREAT show for anyone if you give it a chance.
Not my cup of tea...People sure do love it tho...I know how much I loved Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul...so it’s just a matter of what flips your switch.
My wife has been binge watching Dallas...it’s like Larry Hagman is my roommate.
HELP?!?!
I appreciate how the OP asked his question without putting down the Â
show or people who are into it. Some people love to say something’s stupid if they’ve never tried it.
To those asking if it’s worth getting into - it’s not for everyone, nothing is - but it’s really one of the better shows of all time. A couple friends who used to be in the “ive never seen an episode, I don’t get it” camp ended up binge watching it and have admitted they love it
I don't think I made it past the first episode, doesn't make it stupid or anything. At the same time, I don't give a rat's ass if someone calls me lame or whatever for enjoying watching football every weekend in the fall, thinking the Office is funny, requesting bananas slices in my cereal and lap cats.
To each their own?
Wait. Requesting banana slices in your cereal? You order cereal at a restaurant? Or are you asking your mom to cut the banana?
love the I have never watched the game and thrones and I never will crowd. I am not talking about the ones that just haven't had a chance or just didn't watch it because they didn't want to, but the ones that are like defiant and proud of it. Like we are all... "NOOOOO please watch it!" You don't want to watch then don't. To judge something without watching is pretty short sighted and doesn't actually make you cool.
That people can say something isn't "their thing" when they literally don't know what it's about at all....
Well. I watched it, didn't care for it.
So what do you recommend me doing? Say it is my thing and keep watching something I don't care to watch?
If you watched it and didn't care for it then the comment wasn't for you. It clearly says when they literally don't know what its about at all... that isn't you. You know and you don't have to like it. Just like they don't have to watch it. I find it funny though.... I refuse to watch it and I am proud of it... Ummm ok.
if someone doesn't watch Game of Thrones or any TV show for that matter.
People spend far too much time in other people's business and other people spend far too much time worrying about what other people think.
this is not a topic to get spun up about.
that said, and again, not judging, just informing, it's not THAT much of a TV watching commitment. It's an hour a week for 10 weeks out of the year for the early seasons, or for this final season, an hour a week for 6 weeks.
not some major "I'm going to get fat from all this couch potato TV watching"
If you like it great. I have heard people talking about it at work and it sounds like something I would have absolutely no interest in. I prefer watching sports and tv/movies based on more realistic content. Just a preference, to each his own.
Not my cup of tea...People sure do love it tho...I know how much I loved Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul...so it’s just a matter of what flips your switch.
I'd argue many of the people who love those 2 shows love GoT too. I certainly do. Good TV is good TV, even if it's more of a fantasy drama. I'd give it a chance before dismissing it. I'm glad I did.
And I am not the binge watching person to catch up.
Have too many other things going on to watch that much TV.
Sounds interesting tho.
At this point you don’t need to binge watch it’s almost over with on demand you can watch at your own pace. I’d suggest to give it a shot with a few episodes if it’s not for you then so be it
The only show I can't put it in front of is The Wire. Other great shows I have liked include The Shield, Sopranos, Dexter, Homeland, Boardwalk Empire, Ray Donovan, Billions, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.
Well I was the one who stated GOT wasn't my thing...the OP stated he actually DID know what GOT was all about so i did assume the comment was for me. Tired of talking about ass-uming and "my thing" here!
A lot of Giants fans I know of personally rag on me for watching hockey. Who cares? It's all in good fun. I do the same in return to them for talking about the NCCA Basketball tournament, which I don't give a fuck about.
And I am not the binge watching person to catch up.
Have too many other things going on to watch that much TV.
Sounds interesting tho.
At this point you don’t need to binge watch it’s almost over with on demand you can watch at your own pace. I’d suggest to give it a shot with a few episodes if it’s not for you then so be it
Season 1 kind of sucked and was slow. Its important to the series but you need to give it a chance. Breaking Bad I though season 1 was awful but I kept going. I am glad I did.
The only show I can't put it in front of is The Wire. Other great shows I have liked include The Shield, Sopranos, Dexter, Homeland, Boardwalk Empire, Ray Donovan, Billions, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.
That is a good list right there. Although I haven't seen Ray Donovan or Boardwalk Empire.
The only show I can't put it in front of is The Wire. Other great shows I have liked include The Shield, Sopranos, Dexter, Homeland, Boardwalk Empire, Ray Donovan, Billions, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.
That is a good list right there. Although I haven't seen Ray Donovan or Boardwalk Empire.
How are you Am? Happy to see you posting more frequently at least recently. Maybe I am just seeing you more because its close to the draft.
To judge something without watching is pretty short sighted and doesn't actually make you cool.
But its a real time saver
Again if you are the I just think it is for me or I don't want to put a lot of time into a TV then I am not talking about you. I am only talking about the I haven't watch it and I never will defiant type because they think they are cool to be that way. To me if you haven't watched it you are missing out but so what. You could watch it and not like it. Things usually aren't this big unless it is really good though and even then some people won't like it. The acting is good, the story is good, but you don't have to watch it. It just doesn't make you cool to be like I don't watch it.
The only show I can't put it in front of is The Wire. Other great shows I have liked include The Shield, Sopranos, Dexter, Homeland, Boardwalk Empire, Ray Donovan, Billions, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.
That is a good list right there. Although I haven't seen Ray Donovan or Boardwalk Empire.
How are you Am? Happy to see you posting more frequently at least recently. Maybe I am just seeing you more because its close to the draft.
I am usually busy, but the BBI mock draft usually sucks me back in as I love the draft. Hahaha... hope you have been well brother.
Nothing is wrong. But "requesting" them? Seems odd. I've never ordered cereal in a restaurant. And I could only imagine how well it would go over if I "requested" bananas to be cut on top of my cereal. I suspect that I would have the cereal served to me over my head by my girlfriend.
To judge something without watching is pretty short sighted and doesn't actually make you cool.
But its a real time saver
Again if you are the I just think it is for me or I don't want to put a lot of time into a TV then I am not talking about you. I am only talking about the I haven't watch it and I never will defiant type because they think they are cool to be that way. To me if you haven't watched it you are missing out but so what. You could watch it and not like it. Things usually aren't this big unless it is really good though and even then some people won't like it. The acting is good, the story is good, but you don't have to watch it. It just doesn't make you cool to be like I don't watch it.
But I do and I am. In fact my coolness factor has just gone up 36% since I posted this thread.
That's the beauty of me.
To judge something without watching is pretty short sighted and doesn't actually make you cool.
But its a real time saver
Again if you are the I just think it is for me or I don't want to put a lot of time into a TV then I am not talking about you. I am only talking about the I haven't watch it and I never will defiant type because they think they are cool to be that way. To me if you haven't watched it you are missing out but so what. You could watch it and not like it. Things usually aren't this big unless it is really good though and even then some people won't like it. The acting is good, the story is good, but you don't have to watch it. It just doesn't make you cool to be like I don't watch it.
But I do and I am. In fact my coolness factor has just gone up 36% since I posted this thread.
That's the beauty of me.
I think the fact you have noble in your name, but you don't watch a show with nobles removes about 37% so you are at a net negative 1%. Sorry bro.
To judge something without watching is pretty short sighted and doesn't actually make you cool.
But its a real time saver
Again if you are the I just think it is for me or I don't want to put a lot of time into a TV then I am not talking about you. I am only talking about the I haven't watch it and I never will defiant type because they think they are cool to be that way. To me if you haven't watched it you are missing out but so what. You could watch it and not like it. Things usually aren't this big unless it is really good though and even then some people won't like it. The acting is good, the story is good, but you don't have to watch it. It just doesn't make you cool to be like I don't watch it.
But I do and I am. In fact my coolness factor has just gone up 36% since I posted this thread.
That's the beauty of me.
I think the fact you have noble in your name, but you don't watch a show with nobles removes about 37% so you are at a net negative 1%. Sorry bro.
Oh maaan....
:-(
I was 4 seasons behind and the whole world was talking about it Â
so I started. I am not a fan of fantasy dragon witches blah blah blah and the first season, there's no magic, no fantasy, just a bunch of murderous treachery and naked people and debauchery until the very last episode when she sleeps through the fire and some dragons hatch and I was like WTF?
But at that point it was too late. Count me as someone who definitely watches but almost never knows what is going on. And you can't argue one thing, it is a beautiful looking show. The scenery and the spectacle make it worth watching.
Im not in to Sci Fi or fantasy at all. Heck, took me 20 years to see Star Wars. But people at work kept telling me to watch Thrones. Kept going on and on about it. So I finally figured id give it a shot. Once I did, I liked it, and eventually loved it. The ability to binge watch really helped. Now....ive probably seen every episode at least 3 times, read the books, etc......
Lord of the Rings cant be too far behind:) But no Harry Potter EVER!
The show initially plays more like a medieval English political drama than a fantasy show (loosely based on the War of the Roses). I had no interest in watching since I wasn't into fantasy but the book lovers on BBI got me to check it out right from the beginning. I love historical fiction and it sucked me right in.
Magic/supernatural elements are really far in the background early on. For some perspective, the first scene and the last scene of the season are pretty much the only time anything supernatural is in the fold in season one.
By the time that stuff became central to the show I was already hooked. Read all the books between seasons 1 and 2 to boot.
that honestly watched at least a few seasons or so (no one episode doesnt count as it it is slow and dense and difficult to learn the characters at first) and Ill believe it's even possible for it to not be someone's "thang".
You wont.
The fanbases of even the most popular shows today are relatively small Â
Not So Fast, Tommy. Maybe the Night King will be busy with his javelin Olympics training this year and tells Ned 'Yo, you got this - ride my Dragon at Winterfell' -- which is what terrifies Arya in the season preview.
I didnt watch it until right before season 7.... Â
binged it the couple months before. Everyone always said i would like it, but i just hadnt watched it. That said its a great show, is it for everyone, of course not. Do i care if you dont watch it, no, do whatever you want. Is it better then 99% of TV, yes so its worth watching.
I also find it funny that people are like id watch it, but i dont have time for that or im not into binging. The show has been on like a 2 year break, You could have watched like an episode every week and a half and finished in plenty of time.
Fascinated, though, more by the amount of people posting here and FB (two examples) about how they are among the rare few who haven't watched, or "don't get it."
Lots of people have never seen Breaking Bad, Dexter or Ozark (three I have really enjoyed). Big whoop. lol
but I would be interested in watching it eventually. I don't have much time to watch TV in general, so I tend to watch movies more often than series. I probably only average 2 to 3 hours of TV per week.
But decided to give it a shot and its an amazing series. I think thats why people are so adamant about others watching, I know so many other people who were like me and thought they would never get into it and ended up getting hooked
last weekend, just as a curiosity, not exactly my thing.
Someone mentioned genre above, that would be the word for me, not my genre.
I can see how the younger crowd gets into it though.
scare people from watching something? Doesn't that means its likely pretty good? Never thought to my self "hey a ton of people like X, it probably sucks".
Not liking it after trying it is fine, but hearing its good and deciding you aren't interested seems odd to me.
scare people from watching something? Doesn't that means its likely pretty good? Never thought to my self "hey a ton of people like X, it probably sucks".
Not liking it after trying it is fine, but hearing its good and deciding you aren't interested seems odd to me.
This is so weird to me. Like I ended up watching Lost right after it was over because I had access to it and while I didn't think it was going to be something I was into I loved it. Breaking Bad was another one, but I stopped after the third or so season just wasn't into it. Anytime something becomes a cultural juggernaut I make an effort to see it so at least I can have an opinion on it.
Early after swallowing the book, such as it is. The sort of gratuitous sex in the HBO version was as much as distraction as titillating. Another secret of mine, acquired recently while meeting a small group of women at a club bar: I never watched The Office.
But in reality, a good story is a good story, and Game of Thrones is a great one!! If your into good TV, you are missing out.
I ended up watching the Sopranos last year for the first time. Once I picked up all the cultural references, I lost interest, about season 3.
This is not to say I am above such things, I'll still watch the old Star Treks, liked Breaking Bad, and suffered through the torture that was Walking Dead.
Should I give GOT a go, or just let it pass by?
I don't think I made it past the first episode, doesn't make it stupid or anything. At the same time, I don't give a rat's ass if someone calls me lame or whatever for enjoying watching football every weekend in the fall, thinking the Office is funny, requesting bananas slices in my cereal and lap cats.
To each their own?
Have too many other things going on to watch that much TV.
Sounds interesting tho.
Have too many other things going on to watch that much TV.
Sounds interesting tho.
Exact same reason for me. Haven't watched a second and it is too late to start. It sounds interesting, but I can't commit that much time to catch up.
I don't think I made it past the first episode, doesn't make it stupid or anything. At the same time, I don't give a rat's ass if someone calls me lame or whatever for enjoying watching football every weekend in the fall, thinking the Office is funny, requesting bananas slices in my cereal and lap cats.
To each their own?
U need to get past at least 1 of the 67 episodes that are out there. I understand if medieval/sci Fi is not your thing (I actually don’t have much interest in that genre either)....but GoT is a GREAT show for anyone if you give it a chance.
My wife has been binge watching Dallas...it’s like Larry Hagman is my roommate.
HELP?!?!
To those asking if it’s worth getting into - it’s not for everyone, nothing is - but it’s really one of the better shows of all time. A couple friends who used to be in the “ive never seen an episode, I don’t get it” camp ended up binge watching it and have admitted they love it
Same here. Not even sure what it's all about.
I don't think I made it past the first episode, doesn't make it stupid or anything. At the same time, I don't give a rat's ass if someone calls me lame or whatever for enjoying watching football every weekend in the fall, thinking the Office is funny, requesting bananas slices in my cereal and lap cats.
To each their own?
Wait. Requesting banana slices in your cereal? You order cereal at a restaurant? Or are you asking your mom to cut the banana?
The new Vegans.
Well. I watched it, didn't care for it.
So what do you recommend me doing? Say it is my thing and keep watching something I don't care to watch?
Ummm it is GoT not GT.... Oh i mean... NOOOOO Please watch it! hahaha no one cares.
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That people can say something isn't "their thing" when they literally don't know what it's about at all....
Well. I watched it, didn't care for it.
So what do you recommend me doing? Say it is my thing and keep watching something I don't care to watch?
If you watched it and didn't care for it then the comment wasn't for you. It clearly says when they literally don't know what its about at all... that isn't you. You know and you don't have to like it. Just like they don't have to watch it. I find it funny though.... I refuse to watch it and I am proud of it... Ummm ok.
People spend far too much time in other people's business and other people spend far too much time worrying about what other people think.
this is not a topic to get spun up about.
that said, and again, not judging, just informing, it's not THAT much of a TV watching commitment. It's an hour a week for 10 weeks out of the year for the early seasons, or for this final season, an hour a week for 6 weeks.
not some major "I'm going to get fat from all this couch potato TV watching"
I just wanted to see who was staying alert to trends.
Also sexist to assume my mother is the one to carry out the kitchen duties, here.
What about my father? He's quite "handy" in regards to good preparation.
I'd argue many of the people who love those 2 shows love GoT too. I certainly do. Good TV is good TV, even if it's more of a fantasy drama. I'd give it a chance before dismissing it. I'm glad I did.
Have too many other things going on to watch that much TV.
Sounds interesting tho.
At this point you don’t need to binge watch it’s almost over with on demand you can watch at your own pace. I’d suggest to give it a shot with a few episodes if it’s not for you then so be it
The only show I can't put it in front of is The Wire. Other great shows I have liked include The Shield, Sopranos, Dexter, Homeland, Boardwalk Empire, Ray Donovan, Billions, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.
A lot of Giants fans I know of personally rag on me for watching hockey. Who cares? It's all in good fun. I do the same in return to them for talking about the NCCA Basketball tournament, which I don't give a fuck about.
I spend 0 seconds watching that every year.
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And I am not the binge watching person to catch up.
Have too many other things going on to watch that much TV.
Sounds interesting tho.
At this point you don’t need to binge watch it’s almost over with on demand you can watch at your own pace. I’d suggest to give it a shot with a few episodes if it’s not for you then so be it
But its a real time saver
The only show I can't put it in front of is The Wire. Other great shows I have liked include The Shield, Sopranos, Dexter, Homeland, Boardwalk Empire, Ray Donovan, Billions, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.
That is a good list right there. Although I haven't seen Ray Donovan or Boardwalk Empire.
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but admittedly not for everyone.
The only show I can't put it in front of is The Wire. Other great shows I have liked include The Shield, Sopranos, Dexter, Homeland, Boardwalk Empire, Ray Donovan, Billions, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.
That is a good list right there. Although I haven't seen Ray Donovan or Boardwalk Empire.
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To judge something without watching is pretty short sighted and doesn't actually make you cool.
But its a real time saver
Again if you are the I just think it is for me or I don't want to put a lot of time into a TV then I am not talking about you. I am only talking about the I haven't watch it and I never will defiant type because they think they are cool to be that way. To me if you haven't watched it you are missing out but so what. You could watch it and not like it. Things usually aren't this big unless it is really good though and even then some people won't like it. The acting is good, the story is good, but you don't have to watch it. It just doesn't make you cool to be like I don't watch it.
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but admittedly not for everyone.
The only show I can't put it in front of is The Wire. Other great shows I have liked include The Shield, Sopranos, Dexter, Homeland, Boardwalk Empire, Ray Donovan, Billions, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.
That is a good list right there. Although I haven't seen Ray Donovan or Boardwalk Empire.
How are you Am? Happy to see you posting more frequently at least recently. Maybe I am just seeing you more because its close to the draft.
I am usually busy, but the BBI mock draft usually sucks me back in as I love the draft. Hahaha... hope you have been well brother.
Nothing is wrong. But "requesting" them? Seems odd. I've never ordered cereal in a restaurant. And I could only imagine how well it would go over if I "requested" bananas to be cut on top of my cereal. I suspect that I would have the cereal served to me over my head by my girlfriend.
I don't think you'll find any takers for that deal.
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To judge something without watching is pretty short sighted and doesn't actually make you cool.
But its a real time saver
Again if you are the I just think it is for me or I don't want to put a lot of time into a TV then I am not talking about you. I am only talking about the I haven't watch it and I never will defiant type because they think they are cool to be that way. To me if you haven't watched it you are missing out but so what. You could watch it and not like it. Things usually aren't this big unless it is really good though and even then some people won't like it. The acting is good, the story is good, but you don't have to watch it. It just doesn't make you cool to be like I don't watch it.
But I do and I am. In fact my coolness factor has just gone up 36% since I posted this thread.
That's the beauty of me.
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That people can say something isn't "their thing" when they literally don't know what it's about at all....
Well. I watched it, didn't care for it.
So what do you recommend me doing? Say it is my thing and keep watching something I don't care to watch?
You admittedly watched less than one episode. I wouldn’t have cared for it either if I stopped at that point too
THank you thank you... How can you miss this time of year... It is like Christmas
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To judge something without watching is pretty short sighted and doesn't actually make you cool.
But its a real time saver
Again if you are the I just think it is for me or I don't want to put a lot of time into a TV then I am not talking about you. I am only talking about the I haven't watch it and I never will defiant type because they think they are cool to be that way. To me if you haven't watched it you are missing out but so what. You could watch it and not like it. Things usually aren't this big unless it is really good though and even then some people won't like it. The acting is good, the story is good, but you don't have to watch it. It just doesn't make you cool to be like I don't watch it.
But I do and I am. In fact my coolness factor has just gone up 36% since I posted this thread.
That's the beauty of me.
I think the fact you have noble in your name, but you don't watch a show with nobles removes about 37% so you are at a net negative 1%. Sorry bro.
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To judge something without watching is pretty short sighted and doesn't actually make you cool.
But its a real time saver
Again if you are the I just think it is for me or I don't want to put a lot of time into a TV then I am not talking about you. I am only talking about the I haven't watch it and I never will defiant type because they think they are cool to be that way. To me if you haven't watched it you are missing out but so what. You could watch it and not like it. Things usually aren't this big unless it is really good though and even then some people won't like it. The acting is good, the story is good, but you don't have to watch it. It just doesn't make you cool to be like I don't watch it.
But I do and I am. In fact my coolness factor has just gone up 36% since I posted this thread.
That's the beauty of me.
I think the fact you have noble in your name, but you don't watch a show with nobles removes about 37% so you are at a net negative 1%. Sorry bro.
Oh maaan....
:-(
But at that point it was too late. Count me as someone who definitely watches but almost never knows what is going on. And you can't argue one thing, it is a beautiful looking show. The scenery and the spectacle make it worth watching.
IMO, it lives up to the hype.
Me as well, never have seen an episode. Not anti-GOT, just was too gory/dark/sexism for my GF. I only watch sports or syfi alone.
Lord of the Rings cant be too far behind:) But no Harry Potter EVER!
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Not above it or anything, I love watching tv, just haven’t seen it.
Me as well, never have seen an episode. Not anti-GOT, just was too gory/dark/sexism for my GF. I only watch sports or syfi alone.
It's not really sexist.
Magic/supernatural elements are really far in the background early on. For some perspective, the first scene and the last scene of the season are pretty much the only time anything supernatural is in the fold in season one.
By the time that stuff became central to the show I was already hooked. Read all the books between seasons 1 and 2 to boot.
You wont.
So there are plenty of people who have no interest in GOT and have never watched an episode.
Not So Fast, Tommy. Maybe the Night King will be busy with his javelin Olympics training this year and tells Ned 'Yo, you got this - ride my Dragon at Winterfell' -- which is what terrifies Arya in the season preview.
I also find it funny that people are like id watch it, but i dont have time for that or im not into binging. The show has been on like a 2 year break, You could have watched like an episode every week and a half and finished in plenty of time.
Fascinated, though, more by the amount of people posting here and FB (two examples) about how they are among the rare few who haven't watched, or "don't get it."
Lots of people have never seen Breaking Bad, Dexter or Ozark (three I have really enjoyed). Big whoop. lol
no one cares, but you still seek some sort of validation.
Someone mentioned genre above, that would be the word for me, not my genre.
I can see how the younger crowd gets into it though.
Not liking it after trying it is fine, but hearing its good and deciding you aren't interested seems odd to me.
Not liking it after trying it is fine, but hearing its good and deciding you aren't interested seems odd to me.
This is so weird to me. Like I ended up watching Lost right after it was over because I had access to it and while I didn't think it was going to be something I was into I loved it. Breaking Bad was another one, but I stopped after the third or so season just wasn't into it. Anytime something becomes a cultural juggernaut I make an effort to see it so at least I can have an opinion on it.
I fall asleep every time. Not sure why - it just doesn't hold my interest.
Part of it is the genre - loved Lord of the Rings, but generally hate that wizard goblin magic dragon bullshit. That and vampires. Fucking S N O R E.
This Shame gif is perfect for this thread... hahaha well played.
LOL!
Hahaha Jnoble that is a nice mustache brother!
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