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This Is An Awful Situation For The Giants....

nowturnyourheadandcoughlin : 4/17/2019 7:56 pm
Imagine the draft goes like this (it's very likely):
1) KYLER MURRAY
2) NICK BOSA
3) JOSH ALLEN
4) QUINNEN WILLIAMS
5) DEVIN WHITE
6)

Who do you feel comfortable taking here? Ok, lets say the Giants decide that Ed Oliver has an instant starting roll. They decide to make BJ Hill the backup. Oliver is undersized, but Aaron Donald is too and if your body frame is similar to Aaron Donald you can suddenly perform as well as him. Yadda yadda yadda.

You want high impact players who are constantly on the field with a pick this high. Who else is in contention in this draft slot? Besides Murray, all defensive players were selected. Do you consider an OT like Williams and Taylor. Basically building a monster OL so that Barkley becomes an instant hall of famer (think of Emmitt Smith's OL) and the line is built for the next Giant QB, or do you take some other forms of risk? Do you gamble with Montez Sweat, Rashan Gary, etc. In this scenario we say that Haskins is not a consideration. The Giants want their future QB to have mobility and he doesn't have any. So who's at the top of your board in this awful situation?
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Or long ..  
Brown_Hornet : 4/17/2019 9:00 pm : link
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LOL  
ZogZerg : 4/17/2019 9:05 pm : link
Same dupe
Different handle
Same crap
RE: LOL  
nowturnyourheadandcoughlin : 4/17/2019 9:07 pm : link
In comment 14391051 ZogZerg said:
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Same dupe
Different handle
Same crap
Why is it that people think that any new user who posts has to be a dupe? Do you guys have multiple accounts or something? This is the first time I've been here. You guys are acting quite strange. Do you never get new users here or something? Is there anything I should be aware of? Are you guys rejects from another forum or something?
RE: RE: LOL  
ZogZerg : 4/17/2019 9:09 pm : link
In comment 14391056 nowturnyourheadandcoughlin said:
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In comment 14391051 ZogZerg said:


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Same dupe
Different handle
Same crap

Why is it that people think that any new user who posts has to be a dupe? Do you guys have multiple accounts or something? This is the first time I've been here. You guys are acting quite strange. Do you never get new users here or something? Is there anything I should be aware of? Are you guys rejects from another forum or something?


No, you are a reject from this forum.
Get a life.
RE: RE: LOL  
eric2425ny : 4/17/2019 9:09 pm : link
In comment 14391056 nowturnyourheadandcoughlin said:
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In comment 14391051 ZogZerg said:


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Same dupe
Different handle
Same crap

Why is it that people think that any new user who posts has to be a dupe? Do you guys have multiple accounts or something? This is the first time I've been here. You guys are acting quite strange. Do you never get new users here or something? Is there anything I should be aware of? Are you guys rejects from another forum or something?


Perfect, moderators, he just called us all rejects, ban hammer time.
RE: Also what about this scenario:  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/17/2019 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14390838 nowturnyourheadandcoughlin said:
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What if instead of Murray being selected, Arizona selects Bosa and all the draft picks are the same but Ed Oliver is now selected.

So it looks like this:
1) NICK BOSA
2) JOSH ALLEN
3) QUINNEN WILLIAMS
4) ED OLIVER
5) DEVIN WHITE

Take Murray!
6)

The obvious idea would be to trade out. But lets say for argument sake you can't trade out. You have to take someone. You can't take a QB. The Giants have decided they don't feel good about this QB class.
RE: RE: An awful dupe  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/17/2019 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14390863 nowturnyourheadandcoughlin said:
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who just won't go away

This is the first time I've ever been on this website. Stop it. Just because someone has a sweet sweet user name doesn't mean you need to hate him for it because you wish you had it.


LOL! How would you know what a dupe was if this was your first time here?
GO AWAY!
Not awful in the slightest,  
barens : 4/17/2019 9:14 pm : link
still have Bush, Gary, Oliver, Jonah Williams, and Sweat on the board. Heck, I'd even consider moving down 2 to 3 spots, get some picks, and then trade up from 17.
RE: RE: Hockenson  
GothamGiants : 4/17/2019 9:20 pm : link
In comment 14391004 nowturnyourheadandcoughlin said:
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is basically like adding an extra OT to your run game ... his blocking alone is 1st round worthy.

Oh God no, that's the same failed logic that got Jerry Reach fired. "Yeah yeah, everyone says that Ereck Flowers is a bust and we need offensive line help... but hear me out. What if we sign Rhett Ellison INSTEAD of drafting offensive line talent! He's one of the highest rated TE blockers in football. Surely, that will solve our OL woes!". Then Jerry Reach was fired shortly after that.


No, what got Mr. “Reach” (clever) fired was the stupidity of drafting players like Flowers top 10 in the first place and bookending him with an even worse Bobby Hart - to this day the worst OL tandem I’ve ever seen. Mark Bavaro couldn’t have saved those 2 ... not to mention Hockenson projects as much better than Rhett Ellison ... good night
RE: RE: Sweat, Oliver, Hockenson or The best  
Amtoft : 4/17/2019 9:20 pm : link
In comment 14390873 nowturnyourheadandcoughlin said:
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Offensive tackle.

Really? You think the Giants need a 3rd Tight End? That's the solution to our woes? We are set to start winning because what we really needed was a 3rd tight end?

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnn.


Do you watch football? Do you know anything about our team and Hockenson? You see how many times we were in 2 TE sets? Just give up man.
RE: RE: RE: An awful dupe  
nowturnyourheadandcoughlin : 4/17/2019 9:21 pm : link
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who just won't go away

This is the first time I've ever been on this website. Stop it. Just because someone has a sweet sweet user name doesn't mean you need to hate him for it because you wish you had it.



LOL! How would you know what a dupe was if this was your first time here?
GO AWAY!
How would I know what a dupe is if its my first time? Dupe is short for "duplicate". This isn't my first time on the internet. Although these forums look like they are from the 1990s. Do you guys get out much?

Lets stick to the thread at hand. You guys can have your "dupe" hard on accusations later. Start a thread and gossip away. Compare my IP address to every user past and present on this board and it won't match. But I must be an NSA member who is circumventing that with technology that costs thousands of dollar so that I can post on Giant forums with new IPs every time. Pass me the tin foil hat fellas!
I would take Oliver  
Chip : 4/17/2019 9:21 pm : link
I would never take a running QB they don't last very long in the NFL. We need Defense. Hockenson might be there at 17 but would prefer another defensive player or Tackle but would be thrilled with Hockenson. 8 more days
RE: RE: RE: Sweat, Oliver, Hockenson or The best  
nowturnyourheadandcoughlin : 4/17/2019 9:26 pm : link
In comment 14391105 Amtoft said:
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Offensive tackle.

Really? You think the Giants need a 3rd Tight End? That's the solution to our woes? We are set to start winning because what we really needed was a 3rd tight end?

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnn.



Do you watch football? Do you know anything about our team and Hockenson? You see how many times we were in 2 TE sets? Just give up man.
How many teams with 2 TE sets have spent two 1st round draft picks on TEs on the same roster both on rookie contracts? No one, because there's not a team in the NFL that is that dumb.
Hilarious  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/17/2019 9:39 pm : link
ItShowTime, Sanders, hows the Peruvian food?

What weird fucking story are we going to hear about your family?

Or is your Uncle/Father locked up in jail for abusing the elderly.

When will it end!
RE: Hilarious  
nowturnyourheadandcoughlin : 4/17/2019 9:42 pm : link
In comment 14391160 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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ItShowTime, Sanders, hows the Peruvian food?

What weird fucking story are we going to hear about your family?

Or is your Uncle/Father locked up in jail for abusing the elderly.

When will it end!
wtf are you on about? This is a thread about the NFL draft. Save your useless/random mental thoughts for your wife.
This guy is trolling you.....  
Reb8thVA : 4/17/2019 9:46 pm : link
He started the same thread earlier this morning.
Don't waste energy or time on this putz  
montanagiant : 4/17/2019 10:41 pm : link
you can't argue with dipshittery
RE: This guy is trolling you.....  
montanagiant : 4/17/2019 10:46 pm : link
In comment 14391180 Reb8thVA said:
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He started the same thread earlier this morning.

Absolutely
As expected...  
Torrag : 4/17/2019 10:54 pm : link
1) KYLER MURRAY
2) NICK BOSA
3) JOSH ALLEN
4) QUINNEN WILLIAMS
5) DEVIN WHITE

Plenty of quality talent left for us at #6 in that scenario. I'd be very excited to Draft Oliver, Bush or Sweat in that instance. And if the FO has a conviction on a QB at #6 that works too.
RE: This guy is trolling you.....  
montanagiant : 4/17/2019 10:59 pm : link
In comment 14391180 Reb8thVA said:
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He started the same thread earlier this morning.

Absolutely
Yeah  
jc in c-ville : 4/17/2019 11:01 pm : link
Like the top 5 before the Giants pick are a sure thing with the drop off at # 6 being suicidal. Because, that’s what the experts say given their rankings.. To steal from the I remember my first beer... I remember my first draft.
No brainer for me  
Marty866b : 4/17/2019 11:02 pm : link
Pick Jonah Williams. High floor,high ceiling at a position of great need.
RE: Not awful in the slightest,  
santacruzom : 4/18/2019 3:15 am : link
In comment 14391084 barens said:
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still have Bush, Gary, Oliver, Jonah Williams, and Sweat on the board. Heck, I'd even consider moving down 2 to 3 spots, get some picks, and then trade up from 17.


That would apparently be a ridiculous thing to do, since we already have well-paid plsyers on the roster at each of those positions.
I've said this all along...  
.McL. : 4/18/2019 5:02 am : link
I think the best play here is to trade down, pick up ammo for 2020...

This feels a lot like 1996 when it was a 4 player draft and we were sitting at 5 and wound up with Cedric "Cyclops" Jones.

This one seems like a 5 player draft and we are sitting at 6... Get the hell out of there, and do it sooner rather than later. I think the Giants lose leverage once they are on the clock.

There is a clear dropoff after the top 5. The next group of players all seem to grade out similarly until the next dropoff around 15...

Neither of the Giant's picks are well situated...
I did a Mock on nfl.com today  
BIG FRED 1973 : 4/18/2019 9:45 am : link
and thats my first 5 in that order and i had us taking Jonah Williams @ 6
RE: RE: An awful dupe  
Canton : 4/18/2019 10:26 am : link
In comment 14390863 nowturnyourheadandcoughlin said:
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who just won't go away

This is the first time I've ever been on this website. Stop it. Just because someone has a sweet sweet user name doesn't mean you need to hate him for it because you wish you had it.


You say, this is the first time on this website, but you're an absolute liar. The moniker 'Jerry Reach' was coined on this website a long time ago, yet you use it

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RE: Hockenson
nowturnyourheadandcoughlin : 4/17/2019 8:51 pm : link : reply
In comment 14390961 GothamGiants said:
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is basically like adding an extra OT to your run game ... his blocking alone is 1st round worthy.
Oh God no, that's the same failed logic that got Jerry Reach fired. "Yeah yeah, everyone says that Ereck Flowers is a bust and we need offensive line help...


So who really are you???
C'mon Fats, where are you  
Canton : 4/18/2019 10:35 am : link
You're pretty good at nailing who the dupes are, when they come back. What says you?
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arcarsenal : 4/18/2019 10:39 am : link
Obvious dupe is obvious.
This is not an awful situation. It is a great opportunity  
Marty in Albany : 4/18/2019 11:22 am : link
and way better than what we had last year. We have two first round picks and three times as many picks as last year. We have holes all over the place that we might be able to improve, or even fill.

Do you really think that you know who will be picked ahead of us?
Do you really think that you know the values of the top players in the draft or even know who they are?
Do you really think that regardless of who we pick that we are going to get a bunch of starters who will move us from 5-13 to 13-5 in one year, or that this would happen if we were to draft in the 3rd or 4th slot instead of the 6th?
Do you really think that if there is no good player at 6, or that the rest of the League will stop drafting first rounders 7-32 and paying them millions of dollars?
Puhleese!
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