Dave-Te Podcast-Sifting Through The Draft Rumors

IF, big IF, the Cards do not go MUrray, what happens to the rest of the 1st RD?

Teams that want a QB suddenly may want to jump up...

The evidence is mounting, and considering how lousy they were last year I agree with it. This is a defensively strong draft and we are a defensively weak team. Why reach on a QB, take the defenders who can step right in and play

of Shurmur not being a "rookie" QB guy. Wanting a veteran as the backup and having a rookie sit.

In comment 14391885 PatersonPlank said:

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The evidence is mounting, and considering how lousy they were last year I agree with it. This is a defensively strong draft and we are a defensively weak team. Why reach on a QB, take the defenders who can step right in and play

Yes, but again, there are two scenarios that change everything:

1) Murray and another QB go in the top 4.

2) Cards do not take Murray...

Those two scenarios change what every other team in the first rd might do. You could see teams wanting to jump up (if two QB's go) and you could major quality D guys sliding down if two QB's go first...

and his need to be used off the ball. Also, had not heard about his interviews not being so great.

Good listen btw and worth checking out.

No QB at 6.

Maybe not even 17.

Kyle Sloter.

I run with Rosen and try to trade out of #1 and bring in as many picks as I can.

In comment 14392410 LakeGeorgeGiant said:

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I run with Rosen and try to trade out of #1 and bring in as many picks as I can.

System guys want to run their system. What offensive guy drives the system the most? Who would run Kingsberry system better Murray or Rosen?

Its gonna be Murray at 1.

All questions on Arizona & Murray will continue up to the draft, but have you noticed something. NOBODY has come to the Cards to see what they want for the top pick. Even SF is finding it hard to find a taker for #2. The Jets want outta #3, as they are feeling an extra pick to move down mid range could snag them Brian Burns. Not even "Chucky" Gruden has made an offer for the #1 slot. Just curious what you folks might thing about the lack of Murray trade-up chatter.
Me? If I was Spock from Star Trek, I'd just take Q Williams with the top pick. Look at the teams successful on D - most have that dominant DT to free up their edge rushers. If AZ goes D, I wonder if the roster featuring Chandler Jones & T Suggs would be better off with Williams rather than adding Bosa. Eh, its the Cards problem - we just have to put handcuffs on DG if he is goo-goo eyeballing Daniel Jones like the NFL Network said.

In comment 14392639 nflscouting said:

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All questions on Arizona & Murray will continue up to the draft, but have you noticed something. NOBODY has come to the Cards to see what they want for the top pick. Even SF is finding it hard to find a taker for #2. The Jets want outta #3, as they are feeling an extra pick to move down mid range could snag them Brian Burns. Not even "Chucky" Gruden has made an offer for the #1 slot. Just curious what you folks might thing about the lack of Murray trade-up chatter. Me? If I was Spock from Star Trek, I'd just take Q Williams with the top pick. Look at the teams successful on D - most have that dominant DT to free up their edge rushers. If AZ goes D, I wonder if the roster featuring Chandler Jones & T Suggs would be better off with Williams rather than adding Bosa. Eh, its the Cards problem - we just have to put handcuffs on DG if he is goo-goo eyeballing Daniel Jones like the NFL Network said.

Q.williams could drop to 6.

Cards Murray
SF Bosa
Jets Trade down (QB at 3)
Oak Allen
Tampa White
NYG Q.Will

With Oak

In comment 14392654 Giantz_comeback said:

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With Oak

DG holds on to draft choices like they are diamonds. At least one guy at #6 is out of the equation - Gary's shoulder failed the snuff test

In comment 14392433 Giantz_comeback said:

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In comment 14392410 LakeGeorgeGiant said: Quote: I run with Rosen and try to trade out of #1 and bring in as many picks as I can. System guys want to run their system. What offensive guy drives the system the most? Who would run Kingsberry system better Murray or Rosen? Its gonna be Murray at 1.

That may be true, but my post wasn't about what the Cards will do.