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Give me Daniel Jones, or give me death!

Klaatu : 4/18/2019 2:25 pm
You know him, you love him, you can't live without him. Daniel Jones, the next great Giants QB.


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I still  
Amtoft : 4/18/2019 2:26 pm : link
think Haskins is the one we like... I know JonC and JT said that, but I have ummm a feeling we still like Haskins.
I don't dislike him as a prospect  
Lionhart28 : 4/18/2019 2:28 pm : link
I just see him basically being a less charismatic, smarter version of Will Grier.
Hopefully he actually can throw over 30 yards  
Philu916 : 4/18/2019 2:28 pm : link
Without blowing out his shoulder. Totally dislike jones
Duke QB  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 4/18/2019 2:29 pm : link
#17...

Hmmmm....
Amtoft  
jtgiants : 4/18/2019 2:31 pm : link
Prepare to b disappointed
Where  
Beer Man : 4/18/2019 2:33 pm : link
do we send the flowers
RE: I still  
Brown Recluse : 4/18/2019 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14392275 Amtoft said:
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think Haskins is the one we like... I know JonC and JT said that, but I have ummm a feeling we still like Haskins.


Do you have a feeling or are you just in your feelings?
I hear that he is mentally tough  
ZogZerg : 4/18/2019 2:35 pm : link
LOL
RE: Amtoft  
Amtoft : 4/18/2019 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14392287 jtgiants said:
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Prepare to b disappointed


I mean I like Murray and then Haskins, but honestly I want Ed Oliver if the big three don't fall. Daniel Jones isn't my favorite QB, but I love his short pass accuracy. He puts balls in perfect spots. To me I won't be disappointed with almost anyone we draft unless we reach for someone way out there like Grier.

It is funny yesterday I was under the impression and would have bet anything that pick 6 was a lock at Def... However I think the Giants won't mess around and IF they want a QB it will be at 6.
RE: Amtoft  
Fast Eddie : 4/18/2019 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14392287 jtgiants said:
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Prepare to b disappointed


I’m a Haskins guy myself but aside from that I go into every draft prepared for disappointment. Other than Barkley last year I haven’t been right since we drafted john mendenhall back before color television lol
He has great hair, and an award-winning smile.  
Klaatu : 4/18/2019 2:36 pm : link
In my book that spells Franchise QB.

Something that may help Jones development quite a bit in the NFL  
Brown Recluse : 4/18/2019 2:36 pm : link
is having receivers that can catch a football.
JT  
jayg5 : 4/18/2019 2:36 pm : link
I believe you have mentioned in past that if a certain player the giants covet
at pick 17 isn’t there, they’d consider trading down with Pats...Is Jones that player?
RE: Duke QB  
johnnyb : 4/18/2019 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14392284 Bold Ruler said:
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#17...

Hmmmm....


and from Duke! Hmmm
RE: JT  
Amtoft : 4/18/2019 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14392303 jayg5 said:
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I believe you have mentioned in past that if a certain player the giants covet
at pick 17 isn’t there, they’d consider trading down with Pats...Is Jones that player?


DG just said he would be shocked if there wasn't a player they loved at 17.... To me that means he probably has 15 players he loves and of course at least 2 players would be taken outside of his top 15.
RE: Duke QB  
jestersdead : 4/18/2019 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14392284 Bold Ruler said:
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#17...

Hmmmm....

Did Brown even wear 17 at Duke?
Sorry-  
johnnyb : 4/18/2019 2:38 pm : link
did not see Duke part of the comment.
And look...if this pic doesn't scream Giants QB, nothing does!  
Klaatu : 4/18/2019 2:39 pm : link
RE: Hopefully he actually can throw over 30 yards  
FrankieR : 4/18/2019 2:41 pm : link
In comment 14392280 Philu916 said:
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Without blowing out his shoulder. Totally dislike jones


Threw the ball over 60 yards in the air at the combine hitting the receiver (a draft prospect, not one of his shitty Duke guys) in stride. He has plenty of arm.
Is he taller than 5'8"?  
PatersonPlank : 4/18/2019 2:42 pm : link
As long as he wears a men's jersey, not a youth jersey, I'm ok
RE: RE: Duke QB  
jnoble : 4/18/2019 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14392308 jestersdead said:
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#17...

Hmmmm....


Did Brown even wear 17 at Duke?

I've never seen any photos of him playing at college, I have no idea
Jones may be who our braintrust thinks can replace ELI .  
TMS : 4/18/2019 2:46 pm : link
Sure they have done their homework. Still think DG wants a defensive stud at #6. Perfect spot for a ten year starter with all pro possibilities. Just what we need its been a long time . Last year we got Barkley. This year we do it again on defense. Hoping.
RE: And look...if this pic doesn't scream Giants QB, nothing does!  
Fast Eddie : 4/18/2019 2:48 pm : link
In comment 14392311 Klaatu said:
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I beg to differ K, jones is obviously falling forward. It’s the duck and fall backwards move i need to see lol
Jones  
Thegratefulhead : 4/18/2019 2:48 pm : link
If they take Jones with a first round pick instead of trading less for Rosen I will lose all confidence in their ability to evaluate the position. Evaluating Eli on small sample sizes, Philly game in 2017 and the last 4 games of 2018. Drafting Lauletta. Then drafting Lauletta again(Jones) but instead using high draft capital. Just NO!
I wish the Rug  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/18/2019 2:49 pm : link
would come out of retirement and give us his thoughts.
RE: RE: RE: Duke QB  
Jim Bur(n)t : 4/18/2019 2:50 pm : link
In comment 14392320 jnoble said:
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In comment 14392284 Bold Ruler said:


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#17...

Hmmmm....


Did Brown even wear 17 at Duke?


I've never seen any photos of him playing at college, I have no idea


Brown wore #7 @ Duke...

RE: RE: And look...if this pic doesn't scream Giants QB, nothing does!  
Klaatu : 4/18/2019 2:51 pm : link
In comment 14392327 Fast Eddie said:
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I beg to differ K, jones is obviously falling forward. It’s the duck and fall backwards move i need to see lol


Isn't one noodle-armed QB on the roster enough?  
Red Dog : 4/18/2019 2:53 pm : link
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RE: Isn't one noodle-armed QB on the roster enough?  
Lionhart28 : 4/18/2019 2:59 pm : link
In comment 14392340 Red Dog said:
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I'm not wild about Jones, but the arm strength stuff is so overblown. Is he going to be a Mahomes/Josh Allen/young Flacco-type? Of course not, but if his decision-making skills are there, he's got plenty of arm strength to be successful. That said, I'd take him at 37, not 6.
RE: Amtoft  
Giants38 : 4/18/2019 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14392287 jtgiants said:
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Prepare to b disappointed


I love how every time there is a post on Haskins you throw cold water on it...immediately.

I’m with Amtoft. I’m preparing to be disappointed, but I’m still with Amtoft. And no amount of cold water can stop me from at least holding out a scintilla of hope, even if it will be dashed in a week.

For the next week, I still can hope for Haskins. And no one can take that away from me.
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arcarsenal : 4/18/2019 3:02 pm : link
My biggest fear with this guy is that they're trying to get "Eli v.2.0" - and that he's not going to be anything close.
AKA "Mr. Friendly," Jones is sure to attract a crowd wherever he goes.  
Klaatu : 4/18/2019 3:02 pm : link
RE: .  
Brown Recluse : 4/18/2019 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14392354 arcarsenal said:
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My biggest fear with this guy is that they're trying to get "Eli v.2.0" - and that he's not going to be anything close.


I think this Eli 2.0 stuff is all media-driven bull. And I don't think Eli is even the type of QB Shurmur would want, given choices.
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Giants38 : 4/18/2019 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14392354 arcarsenal said:
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My biggest fear with this guy is that they're trying to get "Eli v.2.0" - and that he's not going to be anything close.


They are. It’s exactly what they are trying to do.
RE: Isn't one noodle-armed QB on the roster enough?  
FrankieR : 4/18/2019 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14392340 Red Dog said:
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65 yards in the air:



Yup noodle armed.

RE: Amtoft  
Giantz_comeback : 4/18/2019 3:08 pm : link
In comment 14392287 jtgiants said:
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Prepare to b disappointed


This draft is going to be so interesting. Unless there is a great shift in thinking, 6 is almost stone cold lock to be defense but 17 could go either way. I still think the value on the QBs is close enough that they try for Grier .

if Jones or Lock fall to 17 then who knows...but to trade up the price will be high....but we do have tremendous draft capital at our disposal. However that kind of investment at least to me signals this is Elis last year and lots of media attention on the shiny new toy. Dont know if they want to commit to that yet...dont know.
Impressed that Jones  
TMS : 4/18/2019 3:08 pm : link
with no scholarship, was a walk on at Duke. Made the team, then became the starter and now could be a top ten pick. Not with a lot of Duke team support .Impressive accomplishments, He could be special. Similar to ELI with that shitty Miss team. Smart. tough and a hard working team guy. Sound familiar Hope so if we end up with him. MO.
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arcarsenal : 4/18/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14392357 Brown Recluse said:
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My biggest fear with this guy is that they're trying to get "Eli v.2.0" - and that he's not going to be anything close.



I think this Eli 2.0 stuff is all media-driven bull. And I don't think Eli is even the type of QB Shurmur would want, given choices.


But how much input does Shurmur really have?

That's the question. Gettleman and Mara probably have more stake in this than he does. And those two guys absolutely would want another Eli if they had the option, I'd think...

Even Boylhart is going with the same narrative...

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Daniel reminds me a lot of the Giants Eli Manning. He has the same ability in the pocket to extend plays and the same quiet leadership on the field. He also seems to have that inner strength that allows him to deal with his mistakes and his teammates mistakes without getting too high or too low during the game.


Part of me feels like they do think Jones is another Eli in a lot of ways... but I had far more confidence in Eli Manning as a prospect than I do Dan Jones.
......  
Klaatu : 4/18/2019 3:09 pm : link


Eli said there'd be days like this.
Jtgiants  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/18/2019 3:09 pm : link
What was the deal with Haskins pro day. The Giants contingent looked absolutely giddy the whole time. Any info on that?
that's not 65 yards in the air  
Csonka : 4/18/2019 3:10 pm : link
just sayin'.
RE: RE: Isn't one noodle-armed QB on the roster enough?  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/18/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14392360 FrankieR said:
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65 yards in the air:



Yup noodle armed.


That's 55 yards with clean pocket stepping up big time. Why you gotta lie or you just bad at math
RE: that's not 65 yards in the air  
Amtoft : 4/18/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14392369 Csonka said:
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just sayin'.


No but he gets really good loft and drops that 55 yarder in a bucket.
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Klaatu : 4/18/2019 3:14 pm : link


Kid, you don't know the half of it.
You know who's noodle armed in the NFL right now?  
Go Terps : 4/18/2019 3:18 pm : link
Tom Brady. So is Drew Brees. These guys can't throw it deep anymore the way they used to. And they don't really have to. Arm strength is the single most overrated aspect of a QB's ability. Rarely is it a significant plus, and rarely is it a significant minus.

Drew Brees doesn't put up incredible numbers every year because he can throw it deep. He does it because his footwork, balance, timing, and accuracy are all elite.
Watched the highlights...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/18/2019 3:22 pm : link
...he has plenty of arm.

Watched the Clemson game, he's got the entire package.
He makes good decisions, he get's the ball out, he can move, he is accurate inside, outside, deep and short. He throws a nice fade and a nice seam.
I like the air under his deep ball.

The critique of his lack of arm strength is inaccurate.

I'd prefer defense at 6 but if Jones is their guy, I'm on board.
Numerology - so #17 with the 17th pick  
Ivan15 : 4/18/2019 3:22 pm : link
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Brown Recluse : 4/18/2019 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14392366 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14392354 arcarsenal said:


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My biggest fear with this guy is that they're trying to get "Eli v.2.0" - and that he's not going to be anything close.



I think this Eli 2.0 stuff is all media-driven bull. And I don't think Eli is even the type of QB Shurmur would want, given choices.



But how much input does Shurmur really have?

That's the question. Gettleman and Mara probably have more stake in this than he does. And those two guys absolutely would want another Eli if they had the option, I'd think...

Even Boylhart is going with the same narrative...



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Daniel reminds me a lot of the Giants Eli Manning. He has the same ability in the pocket to extend plays and the same quiet leadership on the field. He also seems to have that inner strength that allows him to deal with his mistakes and his teammates mistakes without getting too high or too low during the game.



Part of me feels like they do think Jones is another Eli in a lot of ways... but I had far more confidence in Eli Manning as a prospect than I do Dan Jones.


Those traits aren't bad though. I don't think its a stretch to assume they value those traits because they've experienced first hand how beneficial they can be. That makes sense. But I also don't believe that they're going to choose him over another QB who is better just because of them.

I absolutely believe Shurmur has a lot of input. In fact, I think he has more than anyone. If they draft a QB in the 1st round, it'll be Shurmurs guy. I don't know that for sure obviously, but its just my opinion...which is why I'm not worried about it. If they pick Jones, I think Shurmur knows he can make him successful.
I think he throws  
Amtoft : 4/18/2019 3:26 pm : link
a nice 55 yard or so bomb with good loft and placement. That is probably his limit, but let me ask you. How many throws last year by NFL QBs do you think were throw per game longer than 55 yards in the air?
Well  
USAF NYG Fan : 4/18/2019 3:31 pm : link
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Give me Daniel Jones, or give me death!


Hold my beer while I get my gun.

J/K

If that's what they want then I'm all for it.
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