The most likely path to one of Q.Williams, Bosa or Allen.

Murray has to go number 1, the Jets have to trade out to a team wanting a QB, and Tampa has to stay put and draft White. If that happens I believe we get Allen.

The Jets covet Allen supposedly so if they stay put I don't see how we get one of the top 3 unless teams are worried about Bosa's medicals enough to drop him.

In comment 14392620 robbieballs2003 said:

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Murray has to go number 1, the Jets have to trade out to a team wanting a QB, and Tampa has to stay put and draft White. If that happens I believe we get Allen. The Jets covet Allen supposedly so if they stay put I don't see how we get one of the top 3 unless teams are worried about Bosa's medicals enough to drop him.

I actually think the Raiders love Allen also. If this happened Quinnen Williams would probably fall.

is considered the Best player in the draft by many scouts and talking heads.

Mike M. is one of the best talent evaluators out there.

Do you really think he would pass on Williams?

Chris Simms said Josh Allen isn't the top edge rusher in this class.

It will take one hell of a package to get in the top 4.
I am not sold on Arizona taking Murray which can throw everything out of whack.
They need a ton of help outside of QB and there is ton of can't miss up top.
Can't say that about Murray.

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is considered the Best player in the draft by many scouts and talking heads. Mike M. is one of the best talent evaluators out there. Do you really think he would pass on Williams?

With Allen there And the need to replace Mack? Yes.

Leonard Williams dropped to six and he was similarly ranked as a DT prospect.

Spring and they say "Hope springs eternal"

In comment 14392638 Vegas Steve said:

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is considered the Best player in the draft by many scouts and talking heads. Mike M. is one of the best talent evaluators out there. Do you really think he would pass on Williams?

With Allen there And the need to replace Mack? Yes.

Leonard Williams dropped to six and he was similarly ranked as a DT prospect.

In comment 14392653 Toth029 said:

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Chris Simms said Josh Allen isn't the top edge rusher in this class.

Sy has him as the 4th best edge rusher.

I don’t remember anyone having Brandon Scherff going top 5.

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In comment 14392620 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: Murray has to go number 1, the Jets have to trade out to a team wanting a QB, and Tampa has to stay put and draft White. If that happens I believe we get Allen. The Jets covet Allen supposedly so if they stay put I don't see how we get one of the top 3 unless teams are worried about Bosa's medicals enough to drop him. I actually think the Raiders love Allen also. If this happened Quinnen Williams would probably fall.

I am assuming Dave Te is correct saying that SF is worried about Bosa's medicals so now they are leaning toward Williams. So, if it goes Murray, Williams, a QB, and Oakland is on the clock then I am assuming Oakland takes Bosa.

a top 3 pick

In comment 14392729 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 14392627 Amtoft said: Quote: In comment 14392620 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: Murray has to go number 1, the Jets have to trade out to a team wanting a QB, and Tampa has to stay put and draft White. If that happens I believe we get Allen. The Jets covet Allen supposedly so if they stay put I don't see how we get one of the top 3 unless teams are worried about Bosa's medicals enough to drop him. I actually think the Raiders love Allen also. If this happened Quinnen Williams would probably fall. I am assuming Dave Te is correct saying that SF is worried about Bosa's medicals so now they are leaning toward Williams. So, if it goes Murray, Williams, a QB, and Oakland is on the clock then I am assuming Oakland takes Bosa.

Not buying that one either. SF wants the Edge more.

In comment 14392704 rasbutant said:

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I don’t remember anyone having Brandon Scherff going top 5.

I dont know if we have those guys this year.A lot of red chippers but not many blue chip. Perhaps Jonah, Juwaan or Dillard could sneak in but teams usually trade up for the QB and occasionally a pass rush guy.

I really just don't see this materializing. The QB scuttlebutt is rarely a 'secret' when teams are coming up for them. I just don't have a sense that's the case this year. Everyone knew early the Jets were coming up to #2 for Darnold. Same when the Eagles came up for Wentz.

It's gone down this way several times in recent Drafts and it's usually when DL talent is in play, as it is this year. Trubisky went and then noone until #10. Bortles then noone until #22. Newton then noone until #8. Bradford then noone until #25. Ryan then noone until #18. That's 5 of the last ten years the second QB didn't crack the Top 5 and in most cases wasn't even close.

In comment 14392620 robbieballs2003 said:

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Murray has to go number 1, the Jets have to trade out to a team wanting a QB, and Tampa has to stay put and draft White. If that happens I believe we get Allen. The Jets covet Allen supposedly so if they stay put I don't see how we get one of the top 3 unless teams are worried about Bosa's medicals enough to drop him.

They will take Allen at 3

They actually “covet” Brian Burns with some extra draft picks

In comment 14395223 Torrag said:

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I really just don't see this materializing. The QB scuttlebutt is rarely a 'secret' when teams are coming up for them. I just don't have a sense that's the case this year. Everyone knew early the Jets were coming up to #2 for Darnold. Same when the Eagles came up for Wentz. It's gone down this way several times in recent Drafts and it's usually when DL talent is in play, as it is this year. Trubisky went and then noone until #10. Bortles then noone until #22. Newton then noone until #8. Bradford then noone until #25. Ryan then noone until #18. That's 5 of the last ten years the second QB didn't crack the Top 5 and in most cases wasn't even close.

2 QBs in top 5 last 3 of 4 years.

Murray a given .

One of Lock, Jones, Haskins...it just takes one team. Miami, Denver, Skins all want a QB and are in reasonable striking distance. Jets desperate to trade down.

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In comment 14392620 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: Murray has to go number 1, the Jets have to trade out to a team wanting a QB, and Tampa has to stay put and draft White. If that happens I believe we get Allen. The Jets covet Allen supposedly so if they stay put I don't see how we get one of the top 3 unless teams are worried about Bosa's medicals enough to drop him. They will take Allen at 3 They actually “covet” Brian Burns with some extra draft picks

Yes this is accurate. They want into the 2nd round to get possibly a center and they need another weapon on offense. Plus whatever they get for 2020.

Statistics is a simple concept. the more data and longevity of that data renders a more accurate result a higher percentage of the time. 5 out of ten years only 1 QB goes in the Top 5. And in the outliers it was a known quantity well before the Draft. So you'd be bucking two trends for it to happen the way you describe. The odds favor my scenario...

you wanted one of these guys to fall to you, wouldn't you try to convince other teams you wanted one of the QBs?

Maybe the Giants are trying to entice someone to trade up in front of them?

...there have been two QB's drafted Top 5 only 11 times in 35 years.

that TB passes on any defender thst slips by Oakland and the Jets. I'm not sure they will pass on one of the big 3 for White.

Yes

Q. Williams or Josh Allen at 6 then a slight to medium trade up to snag Daniel Jones. If price is too high, Will Grier back of round 1 via trade up from 37.

Potential trade partners:

Detroit at 8, Bills 9, Atl 14

The year of the QB heavy draft was last year.

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...there have been two QB's drafted Top 5 only 11 times in 35 years.

only? 1 of every 3 drafts.