JonC and jtgiants and expect them to go defense at 6. I think that there is a 50/50 chance that they will trade up from 17 for a QB though.
^This. The wild card is either Rosen for or Grier at #37.
Havent JonC and Jt both said Rosen isnt on the table tho?
I think what they said is that the Giants are interested, but other teams are more interested, and are therefore willing to pay more in terms of draft capital.
So I don't think it will happen, although I would like Rosen at #37. But with everything so crazy, who knows?
winning the draft looks like taking the defensive player at 6 & taking QB at 17, but if they feel any of these QBs are worth it, theyll take them at 6.
the more hes becoming my favorite Qb in this draft. Im still not really sure why hes considered 2nd tier under Jones and Lock..
He's already 24 years old and he doesn't have much of an upside. Grier is nearly 3 years older than Daniel Jones. I don't think that Grier is tapped out in terms of upside.
The giants havent taken a qb in round 2 since pretty much ever. Certainly not in any draft I can remember. Maybe never. They just dont do it. Theyve drafted 3 QBs in round one since 79 - Simms, brown(supp draft) and Eli.
The giants have always gone big or dabbled in the mid rounds when drafting a qb. No second rounders and only 3 firsts since 79.
The giants havent taken a qb in round 2 since pretty much ever. Certainly not in any draft I can remember. Maybe never. They just dont do it. Theyve drafted 3 QBs in round one since 79 - Simms, brown(supp draft) and Eli.
The giants have always gone big or dabbled in the mid rounds when drafting a qb. No second rounders and only 3 firsts since 79.
How could you forget Eddie Crowder in the '53 draft class? He was taken in the 2nd round.
Gettleman who admitted it s his most important task to find next quarterback after Eli, probably realizes it would be irresponsible for two straight years to have passed on 8 or 9 quarterbacks who were taken in first round.
Gettleman who admitted it s his most important task to find next quarterback after Eli, probably realizes it would be irresponsible for two straight years to have passed on 8 or 9 quarterbacks who were taken in first round.
The Giants drafted a true generational talent in Barkley last year. There is immense pressure on Gettleman to draft a new franchise QB so that the Giants don't waste the majority of Barkley's prime trying to find one as the Vikings did with Adrian Peterson. Of course if he selects the wrong QB then that would be even worse. I do not envy him.
that the QB the NYG value is NOT in the popular elite; he is raw but with Eli's mentoring and Shurmur's whispering they think he is the best bet to carry the NYG into the future. (Whomever he may be.)
To be clear, I think they will select a QB and it will not be another Webb or Lauletta backup "project".
that the QB the NYG value is NOT in the popular elite; he is raw but with Eli's mentoring and Shurmur's whispering they think he is the best bet to carry the NYG into the future. (Whomever he may be.)
To be clear, I think they will select a QB and it will not be another Webb or Lauletta backup "project".
So you're saying with pick 37, because Webb was in the third and Lauretta was a fourth.
Also, Gettleman said he wants to find the franchise guy and he believes those are in the first round.
The giants havent taken a qb in round 2 since pretty much ever. Certainly not in any draft I can remember. Maybe never. They just dont do it. Theyve drafted 3 QBs in round one since 79 - Simms, brown(supp draft) and Eli.
The giants have always gone big or dabbled in the mid rounds when drafting a qb. No second rounders and only 3 firsts since 79.
How could you forget Eddie Crowder in the '53 draft class? He was taken in the 2nd round.
plays through 2020 if you subscribe to the rookie sitting the first year. I hope this is not what happens. I think this is Eli's farewell tour . They go QB with their first pick
It should be lock. No other qb in this class is worth that pick. It would be a shame to see the giants force a pick at qb sandwiched between two superior qb classes, that's how you end up with Blaine Gabbert and Ryan Tannehill. This situation reeks of the 2008 Miami Dolphins (passing up on Matt Ryan and then panicking and selecting Tannehill 4 years later). Nothing has happened yet, but if Daniel Jones is the pick, would seriously have to question DGs ability to evaluate the position.
is that it would essentially take us out of the 2020 sweepstakes and much better prospects.
Lock is the only QB I can get behind there, his talent/potential is undeniable. The KC model as its been called.
I prefer the Dallas model or the 2017 Jaguars model .. i.e. mediocre QB can still win when he gets to hand it off 30+ times behind a good OL / stud RB with a quality defense.
Obviously I want a better QB than Dak/Bortles, my point was continue beefing up the OL for Saquon to dominate and use your other resources to draft to the strength of this draft. Surround our next QB will a quality supporting cast (offense and defense) rather than reach on a QB just to hear the future face of the franchise BS you hear every draft.
^This. The wild card is either Rosen for or Grier at #37.
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JonC and jtgiants and expect them to go defense at 6. I think that there is a 50/50 chance that they will trade up from 17 for a QB though.
^This. The wild card is either Rosen for or Grier at #37.
Rather have Rosen or Grier at 37 than Jones at 17 or higher.
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JonC and jtgiants and expect them to go defense at 6. I think that there is a 50/50 chance that they will trade up from 17 for a QB though.
^This. The wild card is either Rosen for or Grier at #37.
Havent JonC and Jt both said Rosen isnt on the table tho?
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JonC and jtgiants and expect them to go defense at 6. I think that there is a 50/50 chance that they will trade up from 17 for a QB though.
^This. The wild card is either Rosen for or Grier at #37.
Havent JonC and Jt both said Rosen isnt on the table tho?
Yep..
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JonC and jtgiants and expect them to go defense at 6. I think that there is a 50/50 chance that they will trade up from 17 for a QB though.
^This. The wild card is either Rosen for or Grier at #37.
Havent JonC and Jt both said Rosen isnt on the table tho?
I think what they said is that the Giants are interested, but other teams are more interested, and are therefore willing to pay more in terms of draft capital.
So I don't think it will happen, although I would like Rosen at #37. But with everything so crazy, who knows?
+ 1
This has been leading to Jones at 6 for a while now.
Boy were we spoiled :(
We ll see. I agree it s great fun
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Trade back into first round for him.
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If the Giants are as bad as you think they are, theyll be in position to draft a QB in 2020 anyway.
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If the Giants are as bad as you think they are, theyll be in position to draft a QB in 2020 anyway.
Which is perfectly fine with me, in all honesty.
I believe Garafalo said he believes defense at six. Also, I heard Schefter thinks Rosen to Giants. Head is spinning, Thursday can't come fast enough.
He's already 24 years old and he doesn't have much of an upside. Grier is nearly 3 years older than Daniel Jones. I don't think that Grier is tapped out in terms of upside.
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I believe Garafalo said he believes defense at six. Also, I heard Schefter thinks Rosen to Giants. Head is spinning, Thursday can't come fast enough.
There is so much misinformation floating around. Thank god there is only one more week left.
The giants have always gone big or dabbled in the mid rounds when drafting a qb. No second rounders and only 3 firsts since 79.
The giants have always gone big or dabbled in the mid rounds when drafting a qb. No second rounders and only 3 firsts since 79.
How could you forget Eddie Crowder in the '53 draft class? He was taken in the 2nd round.
The Giants drafted a true generational talent in Barkley last year. There is immense pressure on Gettleman to draft a new franchise QB so that the Giants don't waste the majority of Barkley's prime trying to find one as the Vikings did with Adrian Peterson. Of course if he selects the wrong QB then that would be even worse. I do not envy him.
To be clear, I think they will select a QB and it will not be another Webb or Lauletta backup "project".
To be clear, I think they will select a QB and it will not be another Webb or Lauletta backup "project".
So you're saying with pick 37, because Webb was in the third and Lauretta was a fourth.
Also, Gettleman said he wants to find the franchise guy and he believes those are in the first round.
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The giants havent taken a qb in round 2 since pretty much ever. Certainly not in any draft I can remember. Maybe never. They just dont do it. Theyve drafted 3 QBs in round one since 79 - Simms, brown(supp draft) and Eli.
The giants have always gone big or dabbled in the mid rounds when drafting a qb. No second rounders and only 3 firsts since 79.
How could you forget Eddie Crowder in the '53 draft class? He was taken in the 2nd round.
Haha there had to be one! Thx
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JonC and jtgiants and expect them to go defense at 6. I think that there is a 50/50 chance that they will trade up from 17 for a QB though.
^This. The wild card is either Rosen for or Grier at #37.
Rather have Rosen or Grier at 37 than Jones at 17 or higher.
Grier is trash, with a noodle arm. We dont need to pick up another Lauletta clone in Grier. Damn sure would take Jones of Grier any day of the week
Lock is the only QB I can get behind there, his talent/potential is undeniable. The KC model as its been called.
I prefer the Dallas model or the 2017 Jaguars model .. i.e. mediocre QB can still win when he gets to hand it off 30+ times behind a good OL / stud RB with a quality defense.
Obviously I want a better QB than Dak/Bortles, my point was continue beefing up the OL for Saquon to dominate and use your other resources to draft to the strength of this draft. Surround our next QB will a quality supporting cast (offense and defense) rather than reach on a QB just to hear the future face of the franchise BS you hear every draft.
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then they've finally smokescreened us all.
JonC : 11:22 am : link : reply
then they've finally smokescreened us all.
Not all of us..
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If they pick any QB at #6
JonC : 11:22 am : link : reply
then they've finally smokescreened us all.
Not all of us..
Please tell me its Lock if they go that route
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If they pick any QB at #6
JonC : 11:22 am : link : reply
then they've finally smokescreened us all.
Not all of us..
They are not going QB at 6.
You dont sit a QB picked at 6 for 2 years and they are ready to signal that this is Elis last year.