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Rumor: Eagles looking to Trade up for DT Ed Oliver

mittenedman : 4/20/2019 10:06 am
Just saw a blurb on NFL.com from my phone. Sorry can't link. Speculation they may trade up with the Jets. Knowing the Eagles it will probably cost them a 6th and 7th round pick.
I doubt the jets would be willing to drop to 25  
The_Boss : 4/20/2019 10:11 am : link
Unless the Eagles completely blow them away, maybe including 2020’s first.
It’s the Jets  
Jay on the Island : 4/20/2019 10:12 am : link
They will find a way to fuck this up. Oliver, Allen, and either Quinnen Williams or Bosa will be there at 3. Watch them all become all pro’s while the Jets trade down and take another bust.
Lol  
mattyblue : 4/20/2019 10:12 am : link
I swear Howie has blackmail material on half the league
This would suck  
JoeyBigBlue : 4/20/2019 10:12 am : link
That D-Line with another horse would be even more scary.
I guess his visit  
Pete in MD : 4/20/2019 10:12 am : link
wasn’t so bad after all?
RE: I doubt the jets would be willing to drop to 25  
Jay on the Island : 4/20/2019 10:14 am : link
In comment 14394808 The_Boss said:
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Unless the Eagles completely blow them away, maybe including 2020’s first.

To move down that far they would need at least a 2019 1st and 2nd plus a 2020 1st. I would also demand a 2020 2nd as well.
I have a Jets “asshat” / connection  
GothamGiants : 4/20/2019 10:16 am : link
They are dead set on trading down, MIA/CIN have been rumored

They want to move down, still land a day 1 starter on defense, and get some picks. As of now they select 3rd and then tap out until round 3 ... sounds like Brians Burns and a big WR for Darnold is the priority

Given their desperation I don’t think it’ll take the traditional blockbuster package to move up (depending on how far they drop, obviously). This PHI tip is new, hopefully it picks up the bidding war.
If Philly is all in on Oliver, but fail to move up for him.  
The_Boss : 4/20/2019 10:18 am : link
I’m sold on him at 6 if he’s available.
RE: If Philly is all in on Oliver, but fail to move up for him.  
FStubbs : 4/20/2019 10:23 am : link
In comment 14394821 The_Boss said:
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I’m sold on him at 6 if he’s available.


Careful Philly helped bait us into promoting McAdoo.

And yeah, knowing how Philly tends to get trades down, the Jets will move down from #3 to #25 and get back a 7th round pick, some 3rd string tight end, and "future considerations".
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GiantEgo : 4/20/2019 10:23 am : link
Sadly, I can see Oliver wearing that stupid helmet. He is exactly the. kind of Defensive lineman the Eagles draft and he will be killing the Giants for 10 years.
At 6  
Philu916 : 4/20/2019 10:23 am : link
Oliver 10000% should be the pick unless Allen/QWilliams some how fall to 6.
They don’t really have the ammo  
Sammo85 : 4/20/2019 10:24 am : link
It would cost them a ton to move up into top 10. Two 1s and a mix of other picks probably including a 2.
Just last week there were reports Philly took him off their board  
j_rud : 4/20/2019 10:30 am : link
after a supposedly bad visit. So much intrigue and misinformation, love this time of year.
This rumor is BS  
GothamGiants : 4/20/2019 10:35 am : link
Not dropping from 3 to 25. They are desperate to move down, but not that desperate.

Also, anything making a headline between now and Thursday is likely BS released intentionally.
RE: Just last week there were reports Philly took him off their board  
JohnB : 4/20/2019 10:47 am : link
In comment 14394843 j_rud said:
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after a supposedly bad visit. So much intrigue and misinformation, love this time of year.


I was thinking the same thing.
Is Oliver really a fit for us in a 3-4 though  
PatersonPlank : 4/20/2019 10:49 am : link
Don't we need massive DT's
Good, I hope they do  
UConn4523 : 4/20/2019 10:52 am : link
would require a massive haul that you’d normally only do for a QB. The value wouldn’t be there.
LOL pissing on the Jets...  
M.S. : 4/20/2019 10:52 am : link

...when you're a Giants fan.

And we're sitting here less than a week from the Draft with the worst fucking roster in the NFL.

Wonder if Murray doesn't go first  
Jay in Toronto : 4/20/2019 10:55 am : link
we trade down with Jets with them thinking we will draft Murray and then grab one of Bosa, Williams or Allen?
RE: Is Oliver really a fit for us in a 3-4 though  
robbieballs2003 : 4/20/2019 10:57 am : link
In comment 14394871 PatersonPlank said:
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Don't we need massive DT's


You are correct if we played a 3-4 from the 80s but we don't. We havd also played a multiple front last year.
RE: RE: Is Oliver really a fit for us in a 3-4 though  
PatersonPlank : 4/20/2019 11:00 am : link
In comment 14394878 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 14394871 PatersonPlank said:


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Don't we need massive DT's



You are correct if we played a 3-4 from the 80s but we don't. We havd also played a multiple front last year.


Yep, I guess thats true. I like Tomlinson though, I'd rather we grab a DE
RE: LOL pissing on the Jets...  
The_Boss : 4/20/2019 11:07 am : link
In comment 14394873 M.S. said:
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...when you're a Giants fan.

And we're sitting here less than a week from the Draft with the worst fucking roster in the NFL.


I’m sure the NYG roster is among the 5-10 worst in football. We aren’t the absolute worst though. Miami, Arizona, and the Raiders immediately come to mind as clearly worse.
RE: LOL pissing on the Jets...  
GothamGiants : 4/20/2019 11:22 am : link
In comment 14394873 M.S. said:
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...when you're a Giants fan.

And we're sitting here less than a week from the Draft with the worst fucking roster in the NFL.


I know it’s fun to hate on the giants and be negative about everything, but there are quite a few rosters worse than this team. This is an 8-8/9-7 team this year if they hit on their picks as well as last year.
I’d keep my eyes on the Lions at #8  
NikkiMac : 4/20/2019 11:24 am : link
They said they’re open for business .....
Giants need to get one more premium pick (rounds 1-3) than they have  
Ivan15 : 4/20/2019 11:26 am : link
If they don’t get what they want at 6, trade down, OR if they don’t get what they want at 17, trade down.

This will work with the draft deep in positions they need, and the distribution of talent between 15 and 50.
RE: LOL pissing on the Jets...  
BigBlueShock : 4/20/2019 11:27 am : link
In comment 14394873 M.S. said:
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...when you're a Giants fan.

And we're sitting here less than a week from the Draft with the worst fucking roster in the NFL.

And yet, here the Jets are picking ahead of the Giants....
RE: It’s the Jets  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/20/2019 11:28 am : link
In comment 14394809 Jay on the Island said:
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They will find a way to fuck this up. Oliver, Allen, and either Quinnen Williams or Bosa will be there at 3. Watch them all become all pro’s while the Jets trade down and take another bust.

No one at that spot to help their Joe Beningo anointed messiah Darnold. Hopefully they draft Metcalf at that so XD
RE: Giants need to get one more premium pick (rounds 1-3) than they have  
GothamGiants : 4/20/2019 11:29 am : link
In comment 14394913 Ivan15 said:
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If they don’t get what they want at 6, trade down, OR if they don’t get what they want at 17, trade down.

This will work with the draft deep in positions they need, and the distribution of talent between 15 and 50.


2 4th rounders and 3 5th rounders ... i fully expect a trade up to select between 37 and 95.

I see the Giants ending up with 2 1s, 2nd, 2 3s, 6, 2 7ths
The Eagles looking to Trade up for DT Ed Oliver  
Lowell : 4/20/2019 11:42 am : link
"It's absolutely true."

~Howie Roseman
RE: .  
Route 9 : 4/20/2019 11:51 am : link
In comment 14394831 GiantEgo said:
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Sadly, I can see Oliver wearing that stupid helmet. He is exactly the. kind of Defensive lineman the Eagles draft and he will be killing the Giants for 10 years.


I like this guy.

"Stupid helmet" indeed"
But we were just told he's a problem child...  
Torrag : 4/20/2019 12:49 pm : link
...whose visit to the iggletrs was a total disaster! lol

There is a better than average chance if he's still available he'll be our pick. Call him the leader in the clubhouse if you will.
RE: But we were just told he's a problem child...  
GothamGiants : 4/20/2019 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14395056 Torrag said:
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...whose visit to the iggletrs was a total disaster! lol

There is a better than average chance if he's still available he'll be our pick. Call him the leader in the clubhouse if you will.


If he hates the Eagles as much as I do, make him team captain/co-owner.
RE: I have a Jets “asshat” / connection  
Giantz_comeback : 4/20/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14394819 GothamGiants said:
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They are dead set on trading down, MIA/CIN have been rumored

They want to move down, still land a day 1 starter on defense, and get some picks. As of now they select 3rd and then tap out until round 3 ... sounds like Brians Burns and a big WR for Darnold is the priority

Given their desperation I don’t think it’ll take the traditional blockbuster package to move up (depending on how far they drop, obviously). This PHI tip is new, hopefully it picks up the bidding war.


This has a pretty good chance of happening by all accounts. Now if the team that trades up is for a QB that very likely drops Allen or Quinnen to us.....huge...

There  
AcidTest : 4/20/2019 1:55 pm : link
is no way would the Jets drop from #3 to #25.
RE: LOL pissing on the Jets...  
Jay on the Island : 4/20/2019 2:45 pm : link
In comment 14394873 M.S. said:
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...when you're a Giants fan.

And we're sitting here less than a week from the Draft with the worst fucking roster in the NFL.

Ah yes because they are so talented and a success. As bad as Reese's drafts were the Jets were just as bad. Here are their last 10 years of 1st and 2nd round picks:
2009 5th overall Mark Sanchez bust
no second as they traded up for Sanchez

2010 1st CB Kyle Wilson bust
2nd round OL Vlad Ducasse bust

2011 1st round DL Muhammad Wilkerson - good player but Jets didn't attempt to resign him after rookie deal
No 2nd round pick again

2012 1st 16th overall Quinton Coples bust
2nd WR Stephen Hill bust

2013 CB Dee Milliner 9th overall bust
DT Sheldon Richardson 13th overall - good player but also left after rookie contract
2nd round QB Geno Smith bust

2014 1st 18th overall Calvin Pryor - bust
2nd round TE Jace Amaro bust

2015 1st Leonard Williams 6th overall - solid but disappointing
2nd WR Devin Smith bust

2016 LB Darron Lee 20th overall - disappointment and Jets are trying to give away
2nd QB Christian Hackenberg huge bust

2017 S Jamal Adams 6th overall - best pick for them on this pathetic list
2nd Marcus Maye - solid player and their only hit in the 2nd round in 10 years

2018 Sam Darnold
no 2nd traded for Darnold
There is a reason the Jets had over 100 million in cap room  
Jay on the Island : 4/20/2019 2:50 pm : link
They are one of the worst drafting team of the past 10 years which means they don't re-sign their draft picks which creates a ton of cap room. They are forced to spend big in free agency which will catch up to them if Darnold develops into a good QB and gets a massive 2nd contract. If they don't improve their drafting then they will waste Darnold's prime as the Colts nearly did with Luck and the Chargers with Rivers.
RE: There  
Giantz_comeback : 4/20/2019 2:52 pm : link
In comment 14395157 AcidTest said:
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is no way would the Jets drop from #3 to #25.


But to 15, 10 or 11? That's much more likely.
RE: LOL pissing on the Jets...  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14394873 M.S. said:
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...when you're a Giants fan.

And we're sitting here less than a week from the Draft with the worst fucking roster in the NFL.


The Giants are among the most successful franchises in the NFL. The Jets are among the least successful.
RE: LOL pissing on the Jets...  
Hades07 : 4/20/2019 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14394873 M.S. said:
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...when you're a Giants fan.

And we're sitting here less than a week from the Draft with the worst fucking roster in the NFL.
you slept with the entire roster of every NFL team?....geez you must be sore.
Jets want to trade down but not that far down  
fanofthejets : 4/20/2019 4:49 pm : link
And they like Oliver themselves. But we also need to get back into the 2nd round to draft a center. Something is going to happen but not with Philly. For this to work it would have to involve draft picks + position players from the Eagles roster

RE: RE: LOL pissing on the Jets...  
RDJR : 4/20/2019 6:00 pm : link
In comment 14394905 GothamGiants said:
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In comment 14394873 M.S. said:


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...when you're a Giants fan.

And we're sitting here less than a week from the Draft with the worst fucking roster in the NFL.




I know it’s fun to hate on the giants and be negative about everything, but there are quite a few rosters worse than this team. This is an 8-8/9-7 team this year if they hit on their picks as well as last year.


Really? Love the optimism.
Eagles  
Simms : 4/20/2019 9:56 pm : link
Always have a great plan and juggle contracts well, been knocking on the door for years and finally broke though two seasons ago. Except for the Skip Kelly era .... but were smart enough to keep Howie in house.
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