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Ben Mcadoo

ShocktoBeck : 12:55 pm
In a pause from all the draft related speculation, I noticed we are practically 3 months into the off season and Mcadoo has yet to be hired by a team. This is 2 off-season snow that he’s been on the outside looking in. It’s very hard for a coaching career to survive that much time of complete idleness (he’s not coaching anywhere).

While my opinion of him as a coach is probably the lowest I’ve held for a professional coach in any sport I followed, I assumed someone, on the collegiate or professional level, would hire him in some capacity by now. Even from a pure resume perspective - he did coach one of the premier franchises in the country for 2 years and has 8 years of experience in the NFL, and he’s still young.

I’m very curious as to why that hasn’t happened and have only 2 explanations in mind:
1) He’s as stubborn and arrogant as he was here and declines the offers that are being made, still overrating himself compared to the market perception of him.
2) Market perception of him is as a lost cause. That would fit with my own, but I’m basing mine on very limited data and take into account I may very well be wrong due to a large chunk of information I dont have. So the fact that managements across the country have formed the same perception as fans did, is a rarity which I am just skeptic all about.

Curious as to what your thoughts are on this. Does he deserve another chance somewhere? Why wasn’t he granted/taken one? Does this means his career as a football coach is over?
He's still  
looking at the tape.
Probably something to do with various comments about Ben...  
EricJ : 1:00 pm : link
and I will summarize...

When asked in an interview before the playoff game what he thought about McAdoo, Rodgers said "he is a funny guy".

Then, another comment from within the Green Bay locker room was that Ben was nothing more than an over paid gym teacher.

Meanwhile, what job should he get hired for? He did not do well really in any role that he had here.

Ray Handley...  
kinard : 1:00 pm : link
.... is still looking for his next job.
our ownership group  
SirYesSir : 1:01 pm : link
may never higher a "hot young coaching prospect" again lol
RE: Ray Handley...  
Big Blue '56 : 1:05 pm : link
In comment 14395076 kinard said:
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.... is still looking for his next job.


As is Fassel..:)
they should have immediately  
SirYesSir : 1:06 pm : link
taken back the offer when he showed up for the press conference looking like a 12 year old who borrowed his big brothers suit for a funeral.

terrible coach who did a terrible job and treated his QB shamefully  
Torrag : 1:09 pm : link
...not surprised he's still unemployed. He's so arrogant he's probably holding out for a coordinators position at a minimum lol.
Lying to the Maras  
dep026 : 1:11 pm : link
Have consequences....
...  
christian : 1:17 pm : link
Ben Mcadoo is one of the luckiest human beings on Earth. He never played a down of football, and his first head coaching experience was on the biggest stage in sports.

He's not taking a job because the Giants are paying him through this year, and he's busy pinching himself.

RE: He's still  
In comment 14395068 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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looking at the tape.


Well done.
I think coaching contracts contain offsets  
Giantsfan79 : 1:29 pm : link
in that if he remains unemployed for the length of what would have been is Giants contract then the Giants have to pay out the whole thing, but if he gets a job with another team the Giants can avoid payments.
RE: they should have immediately  
Blue21 : 1:40 pm : link
In comment 14395085 SirYesSir said:
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taken back the offer when he showed up for the press conference looking like a 12 year old who borrowed his big brothers suit for a funeral.



You know in all seriousness...when he showed up looking like that I had a bad feeling. Who the hell let him out of the house like that? Didn't he look in a mirror and say "this ain't gonna work". Did he buy that suit last minute off the rack? That press conference was his first interview if you will with the press and public as a head coach and he showed up looking like that? Cruel to be saying this but then when the team showed up looking like he dressed, as a suit that didn't fit, it was over.The guys in locker room must have been pissing their pants laughing watching that press conference. Maybe that's what Rodgers meant when he said "he's a funny guy". After all he wore a clown suit to be introduced.
RE: He's still  
mattlawson : 2:00 pm : link
In comment 14395068 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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looking at the tape.



Bing
RE: they should have immediately  
steve in ky : 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14395085 SirYesSir said:
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taken back the offer when he showed up for the press conference looking like a 12 year old who borrowed his big brothers suit for a funeral.



And remarkably when he showed up for the second season with his Gordon Gekko imitation he managed to look even more foolish than the first.
He’s on a beach, counting his bank & laughing his ass off  
trueblueinpw : 2:20 pm : link
Like noted above, luckiest guy alive. Didn’t even have to sell anyone out or rape the earth or grab anyone by the pussy to get his piece of the rock.

Seriously, maybe the luckiest person alive today.
He had an interview with Kingsbury  
Beer Man : 2:31 pm : link
back in January for the Cards OC roll, but I haven't heard of any other teams reaching out to him
RE: Probably something to do with various comments about Ben...  
Cool Down : 2:40 pm : link
In comment 14395075 EricJ said:
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and I will summarize...

When asked in an interview before the playoff game what he thought about McAdoo, Rodgers said "he is a funny guy".

Then, another comment from within the Green Bay locker room was that Ben was nothing more than an over paid gym teacher.



Meanwhile, what job should he get hired for? He did not do well really in any role that he had here.


Wonder if Rodgers meant 'funny' as in 'humorous' or
'funny' as in 'screwy'.
dep026 for the win  
arniefez : 2:42 pm : link
the NFL is a good old boys network and no one is more thin skinned or vindictive than a Mara who was double crossed and exposed as a fool.
RE: terrible coach who did a terrible job and treated his QB shamefully  
In comment 14395091 Torrag said:
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...not surprised he's still unemployed. He's so arrogant he's probably holding out for a coordinators position at a minimum lol.

You forget that he threw the players under the bus and avoided taking any of the blame for the teams pitiful performance.

Marc Ross is still unemployed which is less surprising. The only reason he gets interviewed is because teams need to comply with the Rooney rule.
RE: Probably something to do with various comments about Ben...  
ShocktoBeck : 3:31 pm : link
In comment EricJ said:
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and I will summarize...

When asked in an interview before the playoff game what he thought about McAdoo, Rodgers said "he is a funny guy".

Then, another comment from within the Green Bay locker room was that Ben was nothing more than an over paid gym teacher.




That’s interesting. I didn’t know that actually. Was under the impression the Green Bay folk actually supported him overall. If the above is true Inwonder how Coughlin hires him as OC in the first place.
RE: Probably something to do with various comments about Ben...  
In comment 14395075 EricJ said:
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and I will summarize...

When asked in an interview before the playoff game what he thought about McAdoo, Rodgers said "he is a funny guy".

Then, another comment from within the Green Bay locker room was that Ben was nothing more than an over paid gym teacher.

Meanwhile, what job should he get hired for? He did not do well really in any role that he had here.

Chilling to think we hired this guy so Eli can complete 70% of his passes, because that's important for reasons. Then promoted him to coach.
...  
christian : 3:35 pm : link
The Giants made some very bad staffing decisions in the front office and sidelines from 2012-2017. Hopefully that time is over.
RE: RE: they should have immediately  
In comment 14395141 Blue21 said:
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In comment 14395085 SirYesSir said:


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taken back the offer when he showed up for the press conference looking like a 12 year old who borrowed his big brothers suit for a funeral.





You know in all seriousness...when he showed up looking like that I had a bad feeling. Who the hell let him out of the house like that? Didn't he look in a mirror and say "this ain't gonna work". Did he buy that suit last minute off the rack? That press conference was his first interview if you will with the press and public as a head coach and he showed up looking like that? Cruel to be saying this but then when the team showed up looking like he dressed, as a suit that didn't fit, it was over.The guys in locker room must have been pissing their pants laughing watching that press conference. Maybe that's what Rodgers meant when he said "he's a funny guy". After all he wore a clown suit to be introduced.

I think his sub-conscious knew and was trying to convey he was not big enough for the job. It's Dosteyvsky-ing.
hmm  
giantfan2000 : 3:49 pm : link
aren't Reese and Mcadoo still being paid by Giants?

RE: our ownership group  
In comment 14395077 SirYesSir said:
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may never higher a "hot young coaching prospect" again lol


The issue was he was only a hot young great coach to the Giants. What a historically bad hire. He was a horrible HC am empty suit of an OC. To even be compared to Ray Handley says it all. The were A LOT. of comments from people about his “sandwich board” play sheet etc. never mind in his first year he has noting to do w the defense which was why the Team won 11 games.

Mara falling in love w him set this team back years from the get go when he was forced into the OC hire
I vote for...  
morrison40 : 5:22 pm : link
Lost cause
McAdoo is still recovering...  
bw in dc : 5:57 pm : link
in the NFL ICU because that two-faced Mara threw him under the bus, then ran over him forwards, then backwards. The ultimate fall guy. And now he's likely permanently back-balled thanks to Mara.

That Mara is a real class act.

RE: McAdoo is still recovering...  
christian : 6:16 pm : link
In comment 14395540 bw in dc said:
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in the NFL ICU because that two-faced Mara threw him under the bus, then ran over him forwards, then backwards. The ultimate fall guy. And now he's likely permanently back-balled thanks to Mara.

That Mara is a real class act.


I tend to believe the benching episode was more of a bungle than anything nefarious. But in retrospect it was just another in the long line of dopey moves by Mara to try and soften the blow as the era ended.

He was so obsessed with everything ending well, it blew up in his face with everyone. Coughlin's "retirement", Reese's fix it our else mandate, Manning's tantrum about handing over the reigns mid-game.
RE: RE: Ray Handley...  
In comment 14395084 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 14395076 kinard said:


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.... is still looking for his next job.



As is Fassel..:)
Fassel actually got hired briefly by his buddy Bill what's his face, didn't he?
RE: RE: RE: Ray Handley...  
In comment 14395570 Red Right Hand said:
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In comment 14395084 Big Blue '56 said:


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In comment 14395076 kinard said:


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.... is still looking for his next job.



As is Fassel..:)

Fassel actually got hired briefly by his buddy Bill what's his face, didn't he?

Brian Billick hired them fired him IIRC
Still talking about the suit huh?  
"Omg did you see what he was WEARING??"
RE: McAdoo is still recovering...  
In comment 14395540 bw in dc said:
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in the NFL ICU because that two-faced Mara threw him under the bus, then ran over him forwards, then backwards. The ultimate fall guy. And now he's likely permanently back-balled thanks to Mara.

That Mara is a real class act.


What size tin foil hat do you wear?
RE: McAdoo is still recovering...  
PatersonPlank : 8:28 pm : link
In comment 14395540 bw in dc said:
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in the NFL ICU because that two-faced Mara threw him under the bus, then ran over him forwards, then backwards. The ultimate fall guy. And now he's likely permanently back-balled thanks to Mara.

That Mara is a real class act.


Big Mac was fired because he sucked, and lost the team and the fans. He still hasn't been hired because no one thinks he is any good.
Mcadoo  
Simms : 9:49 pm : link
His downfall was steep after the boat trip before the Packers game. If he had won think the team was ripe for a run in the playoffs.
as bad as McAdoo was  
Enzo : 10:23 pm : link
just think about how dumb you would have to be to hire him.
You would think the guy could get a job somewhere,  
81_Great_Dane : 10:36 pm : link
even at a Division III school or something. Maybe he chose to take the time off and enjoy time with his family. Understandable, but one thing people look for in management hires is ambition. If he hasn't been looking, and there aren't health or family concerns holding him back that doesn't show a lot of passion for the game or ambition.
RE: Probably something to do with various comments about Ben...  
Giants_Rock : 4/21/2019 12:25 am : link
In comment 14395075 EricJ said:
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and I will summarize...

When asked in an interview before the playoff game what he thought about McAdoo, Rodgers said "he is a funny guy".

Then, another comment from within the Green Bay locker room was that Ben was nothing more than an over paid gym teacher.

Meanwhile, what job should he get hired for? He did not do well really in any role that he had here.


Are you making stuff up or do you have a link?
Here's one that says the opposite.

https://www.nj.com/giants/2016/10/ben_mcadoo_qb_coach_green_bay.html
He's still looking for the  
Jay in Toronto : 4/21/2019 12:28 am : link
Duke
Did I miss something?  
short lease : 4/21/2019 3:56 am : link
Besides telling the Giants he was a Football coach ... what lie did he tell Mara?
No one has hired Jerry Reese either  
RobCarpenter : 4/21/2019 7:33 am : link
And it’s not just because of Mara.
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