Its a long video but the guys at NFL.com interviewed his parents, his coaches (high school and college), his siblings, etc.
DG has talked about finding guys that have faced adversity, are leaders, are professional, etc. This is that guy from this draft.
Gil Brandt (one of the few NFL hall of fame GMs) said just recently in an interview: “I. Love. Dan Jones,” Brandt said on a teleconference for Sirius XM NFL Radio. “I have to say this carefully: When you watch him and you go back (20) years and watch Peyton Manning, you are watching the same guy. He’s athletic. He doesn’t have a rocket for an arm, but neither did Peyton. Very smart."
Link to the interview:
https://www.nj.com/giants/2019/04/gil-brandt-to-giants-nfl-draft-dukes-daniel-jones-like-watching-the-same-guy-as-young-peyton-manning.html
Here's a link to the youtube video you should watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keOPHf4ok8g& feature=player_embedded
Get used to Daniel Jones, he's going to be the next QB of the Giants.
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Daniel reminds me a lot of the Giants Eli Manning. He has the same ability in the pocket to extend plays and the same quiet leadership on the field. He also seems to have that inner strength that allows him to deal with his mistakes and his teammates mistakes without getting too high or too low during the game. He has the arm talent and accuracy to make teams defend his ability to pass the ball down the field opening up the running game. His mechanics are mature moving his feet consistently to keep his balance when under pressure in the pocket. Daniel does an excellent job managing the game plan and is like a coach on the field helping his teammates at all times. The potential to be a Franchise quarterback is what you get when you select Daniel and I think in this draft if you want him you just might have to trade up to get him. If I needed a quarterback I would trade up to get him, what would I give up, to move up, to select him you ask? Well, all I can say is…if I were Amish I’d build you a barn for the privilege of trading up to select Daniel Jones.Daniel reminds me a lot of the Giants Eli Manning. He has the same ability in the pocket to extend plays and the same quiet leadership on the field. He also seems to have that inner strength that allows him to deal with his mistakes and his teammates mistakes without getting too high or too low during the game. He has the arm talent and accuracy to make teams defend his ability to pass the ball down the field opening up the running game. His mechanics are mature moving his feet consistently to keep his balance when under pressure in the pocket. Daniel does an excellent job managing the game plan and is like a coach on the field helping his teammates at all times. The potential to be a Franchise quarterback is what you get when you select Daniel and I think in this draft if you want him you just might have to trade up to get him. If I needed a quarterback I would trade up to get him, what would I give up, to move up, to select him you ask? Well, all I can say is…if I were Amish I’d build you a barn for the privilege of trading up to select Daniel Jones.Daniel reminds me a lot of the Giants Eli Manning. He has the same ability in the pocket to extend plays and the same quiet leadership on the field. He also seems to have that inner strength that allows him to deal with his mistakes and his teammates mistakes without getting too high or too low during the game. He has the arm talent and accuracy to make teams defend his ability to pass the ball down the field opening up the running game. His mechanics are mature moving his feet consistently to keep his balance when under pressure in the pocket. Daniel does an excellent job managing the game plan and is like a coach on the field helping his teammates at all times. The potential to be a Franchise quarterback is what you get when you select Daniel and I think in this draft if you want him you just might have to trade up to get him. If I needed a quarterback I would trade up to get him, what would I give up, to move up, to select him you ask? Well, all I can say is…if I were Amish I’d build you a barn for the privilege of trading up to select Daniel Jones.
I think Brandt may have a faulty memory. Peyton came into the league able to make every NFL throw, easily. Peyton made very tough throws to the sidelines with authority. And he had a great deep ball. If Brandt's logic is that Daniel Jones can't make all the throws but neither could Peyton, then he is dead wrong
I think Brandt may have a faulty memory. Peyton came into the league able to make every NFL throw, easily. Peyton made very tough throws to the sidelines with authority. And he had a great deep ball. If Brandt's logic is that Daniel Jones can't make all the throws but neither could Peyton, then he is dead wrong
You’re right, he’s only a hall of fame GM. I’ll trust your word over his smh.
I think Brandt may have a faulty memory. Peyton came into the league able to make every NFL throw, easily. Peyton made very tough throws to the sidelines with authority. And he had a great deep ball. If Brandt's logic is that Daniel Jones can't make all the throws but neither could Peyton, then he is dead wrong
Absolutely. Peyton, circa 2012, started to lose it because of his neck injury.
But out of Tennessee, Peyton could make every throw on the NFL route tree at the time. Which included the deep out. Jones is not in that class. At all...
Who said that Daniel Jones can't make every NFL throw? Clearly he can, because that statement right there proves it. There are plenty of footage of Daniel Jones throwing the ball 55 yards through the air. He has great anticipation with his throws. You don't conjure up the name of a top 3 NFL QB of all time unless you are confident. Gil Brandt had huge guts to come out and say: "This guy reminds me of Peyton coming out of college". Do remember that some people thought that big armed Ryan Leaf was a better prospect than Peyton. That he had the rocket arm that Peyton didn't have. Look how that turned out.
Who said that Daniel Jones can't make every NFL throw? Clearly he can, because that statement right there proves it. There are plenty of footage of Daniel Jones throwing the ball 55 yards through the air. He has great anticipation with his throws. You don't conjure up the name of a top 3 NFL QB of all time unless you are confident. Gil Brandt had huge guts to come out and say: "This guy reminds me of Peyton coming out of college". Do remember that some people thought that big armed Ryan Leaf was a better prospect than Peyton. That he had the rocket arm that Peyton didn't have. Look how that turned out.
I remember that Peyton vs Leaf debate. I’ll admit, I thought Leaf was possibly going to be better than Peyton. Shows what I know.
The ultimate test for arm strength is the deep out. You don't see Jones making that throw a lot.
I think a lot of people confuse those rainbow-type deep throws as equating to arm strength. Even Lauletta can make those type of throws.
I think Brandt may have a faulty memory. Peyton came into the league able to make every NFL throw, easily. Peyton made very tough throws to the sidelines with authority. And he had a great deep ball. If Brandt's logic is that Daniel Jones can't make all the throws but neither could Peyton, then he is dead wrong
Peyton didn’t have a rocket coming out, that’s never been his calling card.
Who said that Daniel Jones can't make every NFL throw? Clearly he can, because that statement right there proves it. There are plenty of footage of Daniel Jones throwing the ball 55 yards through the air. He has great anticipation with his throws. You don't conjure up the name of a top 3 NFL QB of all time unless you are confident. Gil Brandt had huge guts to come out and say: "This guy reminds me of Peyton coming out of college". Do remember that some people thought that big armed Ryan Leaf was a better prospect than Peyton. That he had the rocket arm that Peyton didn't have. Look how that turned out.
Unfortunately, you don't get arm strength. Throwing the ball "55 yards" downfield doesn't prove arm strength. Jones gets a lot of air under the ball and it tends to float at times. Arm strength is being able to throw the ball on a line into tight spaces 20+ yards down the field. The closing speed of DBs in the pros versus college is virtually night and day. Manning did that considerably better coming out of UT than Jones.
And what's Leaf got to do with this? Yes, Leaf had a very strong arm. And?
As the end of the day, to each their own on this. I just can't reconcile what you see with Jones. He's an interesting prospect. But he's a project that is going to need a lot of work. And you don't invest high picks on projects.
Jackson from Buffalo is a project. Jones is a starter.
Jackson from Buffalo is a project. Jones is a starter.
What do you mean? Day one starter?
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"When you watch him and you go back (20) years and watch Peyton Manning, you are watching the same guy".
Who said that Daniel Jones can't make every NFL throw? Clearly he can, because that statement right there proves it. There are plenty of footage of Daniel Jones throwing the ball 55 yards through the air. He has great anticipation with his throws. You don't conjure up the name of a top 3 NFL QB of all time unless you are confident. Gil Brandt had huge guts to come out and say: "This guy reminds me of Peyton coming out of college". Do remember that some people thought that big armed Ryan Leaf was a better prospect than Peyton. That he had the rocket arm that Peyton didn't have. Look how that turned out.
Unfortunately, you don't get arm strength. Throwing the ball "55 yards" downfield doesn't prove arm strength. Jones gets a lot of air under the ball and it tends to float at times. Arm strength is being able to throw the ball on a line into tight spaces 20+ yards down the field. The closing speed of DBs in the pros versus college is virtually night and day. Manning did that considerably better coming out of UT than Jones.
And what's Leaf got to do with this? Yes, Leaf had a very strong arm. And?
As the end of the day, to each their own on this. I just can't reconcile what you see with Jones. He's an interesting prospect. But he's a project that is going to need a lot of work. And you don't invest high picks on projects.
Out of every QB in the draft the two that I think are most ready to step in day one and start are Jones and Lock. Jones has to work on several things but he is far more advanced that Josh Allen was and Allen started several games year one. The NFL is different than it was during Eli's rookie season.
Jackson is more like a 2 year project.
Jackson is more like a 2 year project.
True, QB's like Tyree Jackson and Dolegala need at least two years before they are ready to start. Lock, Jones, and even Haskins should be ready to start at some point year one but all three would benefit from sitting for at least a few games.
He is Eli 2.0 but more athletic and possibly less durable. But who isn’t less durable than Eli? Only Brett Favre.
I strongly believe he will be the pick.
Time will tell...
Out of every QB in the draft the two that I think are most ready to step in day one and start are Jones and Lock. Jones has to work on several things but he is far more advanced that Josh Allen was and Allen started several games year one. The NFL is different than it was during Eli's rookie season.
You are right. The NFL has changed since Eli arrived. It's a game that's easier to play for the QB.
And I subscribe to the notion that first round QBs should start immediately, with certain exceptions.
But I've said this repeatedly throughout this run-up to the draft, I don't think this draft crop really has a bona fide first round talent. Murray is close, but I am turned off by his size. Lock is very close because of his immense arm talent and athleticism, but I have doubts from the neck up.
Jones? I just can't see it. Brian Baldinger did a small piece on the NFLN focusing on Jones's decision making and exposing some of the weaknesses. In fact, some of the decisions Jones made were amplified by his average arm. Very telling, and further proof - to me - that he's just not worth first round value.
He is my second favorite quarterback in this draft. He can make the throws and is very smart.
We have seen a group of men who wilted until its pressure. To ask a young GM especially with the ever connected society today.
Many years back the Giants drafted two guys I thought were the bomb, they bombed alright. Even since I personally try to be wishfully thinking.
Many good statements on why Daniel Jones could be a fit.
I recall David Carr with the Texans, a brutal existence behind that OL. Who really knows ....
Your memory is absolutely correct. Going into the draft process, Peyton was the sure fire greatest NFL QB prospect in years. By the end of the draft process, people were wondering whether Ryan Leaf or Peyton should be the first pick. At the time, with the lack of experience that comes with youth, I leaned somewhat towards Leaf being the #1 pick because he had a much stronger arm than Peyton. Peyton's arm was above average by NFL standards, nothing amazing.
BUT, Peyton was a sure fire top 5 pick for at least 2 years prior to graduating and heading into the draft. He was a king of quarterbacks on the collegiate level. He was on the front page of magazines his freshman year. Daniel Jones has some talent and was coached well by Cutcliffe, but it seems like an ultimately lazy comparison to compare Daniel Jones as a prospect to Peyton, or to Eli, for that matter. Daniel Jones is a much better athlete than either of them, for sure. But their overall talent level was far superior to Jones. And Peyton was a football genius, obsessed with football and the intricacies of the quarterback position from middle school. If Daniel Jones was really the same as Peyton Manning, people would have been talking about him as the #1 pick in the draft over a year ago.
As a Duke fan, I felt strongly before the beginning of this season that Daniel Jones was a very good college QB and would be a second or third round draft pick whether he came out this year or next, but first round--and top 5 for that matter--is a stretch. To suggest that Daniel Jones is the same prospect as Peyton and Eli were is like comparing Brian Burns to Lawrence Taylor. And even that isn't quite fair to Brian Burns, because he was a top prospect out of high school who has a great amount of upside potential.
I actually like Jones a lot ... just hoping this QB smoke leads a stupid team into trading up and we have Q Williams (the best player in the draft) or Josh Allen (the best fit for Bettcher’s scheme and huge need) fall to ya
I think Oakland does something stupid and goes DK Metcalf or Oliver at 4
Thanks!! Some of the guys on this site are weird.. I'm getting ragged on for saying Peyton fucking Manning has a great arm, like they haven't watched football for the last 20 years. Manning had a great fucking arm and if you don't know that you are blind. I must have watched 50 Peyton Manning games. He made every throw with ease. Yea maybe it wasn't as powerful as Josh Allen, maybe, but he had a top-8 arm most of his career. Better than Tom Brady. Brandt saying Manning didn't have a great arm is absurd. I really don't know what eric2425ny and BSIMatt are talking about. Thank you bw in dc and Torrag for talking some sense.
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Jones doesn't throw it often and that's a good thing because his arm is average. Peyton had plus arm talent before his injuries. Jones does not. Brandt is getting old.
Thanks!! Some of the guys on this site are weird.. I'm getting ragged on for saying Peyton fucking Manning has a great arm, like they haven't watched football for the last 20 years. Manning had a great fucking arm and if you don't know that you are blind. I must have watched 50 Peyton Manning games. He made every throw with ease. Yea maybe it wasn't as powerful as Josh Allen, maybe, but he had a top-8 arm most of his career. Better than Tom Brady. Brandt saying Manning didn't have a great arm is absurd. I really don't know what eric2425ny and BSIMatt are talking about. Thank you bw in dc and Torrag for talking some sense.
The “great arm” is overrated.
Jay Cutler and Matt Stafford have great arms. They suck and/or have won nothing. Peyton had a good arm and was robotic in the pocket - he knew what defenses were doing before the snap and would deliver the ball accordingly, often adjusting the play 1-2 times at the line of scrimmage based on what the defense showed.
He didn’t have a weak arm by any means, but there have been countless QBs with “stronger” arms. Being an elite QB has a lot more to do with it than a “great arm” (Kyle Boler, Joe Flacco had “great arms” too)
Thanks ha. I do like Daniel Jones, he's just not Peyton or Eli. And I don't think he's Josh Rosen either, who I still think could be better than Eli (but not as good as Peyton). And if he ends up being available for 37--the Giants get either two defensive players in Round 1 or one defensive player and one o-lineman or tight end, and Rosen in round 2--that would be genius. I still think there's a chance the whole Murray to Arizona thing is BS, but no one else seems to really think so.
As much as I am against taking a QB in the second round because they rarely pan out, with two first round picks to use on position players, I'd be cool with taking Jones at 37--given that he went to Duke and I've rooted for him for 3 years. 17 seems like a stretch to me, but it's better than 6, and QBs do always get pushed up the board, whether people want to pretend they're playing BPA or not. (By the way, if the 2004 draft was BPA, Larry Fitzgerald would have been the first pick. He was a better WR prospect than Eli, Ben and Rivers, by a good margin.)
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Nice write-up.
Thanks ha. I do like Daniel Jones, he's just not Peyton or Eli. And I don't think he's Josh Rosen either, who I still think could be better than Eli (but not as good as Peyton). And if he ends up being available for 37--the Giants get either two defensive players in Round 1 or one defensive player and one o-lineman or tight end, and Rosen in round 2--that would be genius. I still think there's a chance the whole Murray to Arizona thing is BS, but no one else seems to really think so.
As much as I am against taking a QB in the second round because they rarely pan out, with two first round picks to use on position players, I'd be cool with taking Jones at 37--given that he went to Duke and I've rooted for him for 3 years. 17 seems like a stretch to me, but it's better than 6, and QBs do always get pushed up the board, whether people want to pretend they're playing BPA or not. (By the way, if the 2004 draft was BPA, Larry Fitzgerald would have been the first pick. He was a better WR prospect than Eli, Ben and Rivers, by a good margin.)
To your last point, suppose the Chargers had drafted Larry Fitzgerald. They would've had Brees, Tomlinson, and Fitzgerald.
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Marc Ross, Buffalo: "He's a little short. The thing you worry about is those (Jeff) Tedford guys. They don't do anything for a couple years and then they have a good year or two. Who of his quarterbacks has done what they're supposed to do? None of them. Is he just working magic with great college quarterbacks or just manufacturing guys?"
Moral of the story: judge each player according to his own individual abilities.
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