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13ODB : 4/20/2019 11:36 pm
This might be the dumbest mock I seen yet. He has the giants trading up a spot with the bucs to draft Daniel Jones at 5 lol
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Really dumb  
Torrag : 4/20/2019 11:41 pm : link
The Jets #3 pick is in play. If someone wants to go get a QB in front of us they have a landing spot.
I think it's highly possible  
allstarjim : 4/21/2019 12:05 am : link
All five of the teams ahead of us would be amenable to a trade down.

The Jets may be the most motivated, the Cards probably the least.

I think it's going to be a buyer's market to move up.
The Niners need players not picks...  
Torrag : 4/21/2019 12:08 am : link
...same as the Raiders. The Cards are taking Murray. So there are two picks potentially in play, The Jets at #3 and Tampa at #5....imo.
Trade up for Jones?  
Marty866b : 4/21/2019 12:12 am : link
I realize we're desperate for a quarterback but hopefully not this desperate.
1 week from today all these mock drafts...  
morrison40 : 4/21/2019 3:23 am : link
Will be over and forgotten!
I do not believe the Giants are desperate for a QB  
George from PA : 4/21/2019 3:56 am : link
Eli will be fine for another year or 2, now that OL has finally settle down (A RT still must be added).

DG does not seem like the type that does anything in despeation....so lets calm down....and see how Thursday play out
WE  
Allen in CNJ : 4/21/2019 6:06 am : link
also need players on DEFENSE, forget the QB position!!!
It s been stated over and  
joeinpa : 4/21/2019 7:10 am : link
Over, the Giants have many needs. Your post seems to indicate you don’t believe quarterback is one of them. In the short term, accepting the opinion of many, that Eli will be fine, not listing quarterback as a need is valid.

In the long term, if Giants follow your narrative, they will in consecutive years have passed on 7 or 8 quarterbacks who were taken in the first round, Yikes!
RE: It s been stated over and  
Diver_Down : 4/21/2019 7:44 am : link
In comment 14395852 joeinpa said:
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Over, the Giants have many needs. Your post seems to indicate you don’t believe quarterback is one of them. In the short term, accepting the opinion of many, that Eli will be fine, not listing quarterback as a need is valid.

In the long term, if Giants follow your narrative, they will in consecutive years have passed on 7 or 8 quarterbacks who were taken in the first round, Yikes!


Joe, can we not keep repeating the last statement as fact? I've seen it repeated not just by you, but it is factually untrue. Yes, the Giants chose Barkley over any of the available QBs last year. I'm not going to debate the choice. But we didn't "pass" over them all. If a player is picked before us, we did not pass on them. We can also safely eliminate Lamar as an option. Yes, he was picked in the 1st round, but a QB that can't throw the ball is never an option regardless of what round. So just last year, we did not pass on Mayfield or Jackson. We technically "passed" over Darnold, Allen, and Rosen in lieu of Barkley.

We don't know how the draft will play out this year, but we can reasonably expect Kyler going #1. We won't be passing on a player picked before us. If other QBs are picked via trading up before us, then we can't accuse the Giants of "passing" on a player who isn't available to us.

As of today, we have passed on 3 QBs that were picked in the first round not 7 or 8. Let's wait till Thursday before we pad the stat to frame an argument.
RE: Really dumb  
Big Blue '56 : 4/21/2019 7:47 am : link
In comment 14395778 Torrag said:
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The Jets #3 pick is in play. If someone wants to go get a QB in front of us they have a landing spot.


Are teams desperate enough to give up a ton for what is deemed by bw central as a mediocre at best lot of QBs?
RE: RE: It s been stated over and  
Big Blue '56 : 4/21/2019 7:48 am : link
In comment 14395875 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 14395852 joeinpa said:


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Over, the Giants have many needs. Your post seems to indicate you don’t believe quarterback is one of them. In the short term, accepting the opinion of many, that Eli will be fine, not listing quarterback as a need is valid.

In the long term, if Giants follow your narrative, they will in consecutive years have passed on 7 or 8 quarterbacks who were taken in the first round, Yikes!



Joe, can we not keep repeating the last statement as fact? I've seen it repeated not just by you, but it is factually untrue. Yes, the Giants chose Barkley over any of the available QBs last year. I'm not going to debate the choice. But we didn't "pass" over them all. If a player is picked before us, we did not pass on them. We can also safely eliminate Lamar as an option. Yes, he was picked in the 1st round, but a QB that can't throw the ball is never an option regardless of what round. So just last year, we did not pass on Mayfield or Jackson. We technically "passed" over Darnold, Allen, and Rosen in lieu of Barkley.

We don't know how the draft will play out this year, but we can reasonably expect Kyler going #1. We won't be passing on a player picked before us. If other QBs are picked via trading up before us, then we can't accuse the Giants of "passing" on a player who isn't available to us.

As of today, we have passed on 3 QBs that were picked in the first round not 7 or 8. Let's wait till Thursday before we pad the stat to frame an argument.


Well done.
Great point DD  
GiantMike92 : 4/21/2019 8:20 am : link
When reading arguments about not taking a QB last year and how many we passed over
RE: RE: It s been stated over and  
joeinpa : 4/21/2019 8:33 am : link
In comment 14395875 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 14395852 joeinpa said:


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Over, the Giants have many needs. Your post seems to indicate you don’t believe quarterback is one of them. In the short term, accepting the opinion of many, that Eli will be fine, not listing quarterback as a need is valid.

In the long term, if Giants follow your narrative, they will in consecutive years have passed on 7 or 8 quarterbacks who were taken in the first round, Yikes!



Joe, can we not keep repeating the last statement as fact? I've seen it repeated not just by you, but it is factually untrue. Yes, the Giants chose Barkley over any of the available QBs last year. I'm not going to debate the choice. But we didn't "pass" over them all. If a player is picked before us, we did not pass on them. We can also safely eliminate Lamar as an option. Yes, he was picked in the 1st round, but a QB that can't throw the ball is never an option regardless of what round. So just last year, we did not pass on Mayfield or Jackson. We technically "passed" over Darnold, Allen, and Rosen in lieu of Barkley.

We don't know how the draft will play out this year, but we can reasonably expect Kyler going #1. We won't be passing on a player picked before us. If other QBs are picked via trading up before us, then we can't accuse the Giants of "passing" on a player who isn't available to us.

As of today, we have passed on 3 QBs that were picked in the first round not 7 or 8. Let's wait till Thursday before we pad the stat to frame an argument.


Ok, good pt. But they will have passed on at least 6. Thing is I m happy Eli has this season and maybe even next, I m an Eli fan, not hater, but would just like the next guy in place. Also I don t believe quarterback candidates often come with less risk than the quarterbacks the Giants will have passed on have.

But Your point is correct regarding Mayfield and the Baltimore kid.
Joe -  
Diver_Down : 4/21/2019 8:48 am : link
I don't mean to single you out as the point has been repeated by others. It just that these "facts" have a way of growing legs as they are repeated. I think it originated in the twitter-shpere.

I am one of the biggest Eli proponent. I also would like a legitimate prospect to be taken either this year or next. I don't consider Kyle a legitimate prospect. His ceiling is a backup if he sticks. Soon enough, we will know how many QBs we have passed on. Until then, there is no need to repeat hyperbole only to frame an argument.
Who is that  
XBRONX : 4/21/2019 8:51 am : link
sticking a Q tip in their ear?
RE: The Niners need players not picks...  
Big Rick in FL : 4/21/2019 9:13 am : link
In comment 14395791 Torrag said:
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...same as the Raiders. The Cards are taking Murray. So there are two picks potentially in play, The Jets at #3 and Tampa at #5....imo.


The 49ers could definitely use more draft picks. They only have 6 this year. They don't have a 2nd round or 5th round pick.
RE: I do not believe the Giants are desperate for a QB  
nygnyy274 : 4/21/2019 10:18 am : link
In comment 14395838 George from PA said:
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Eli will be fine for another year or 2, now that OL has finally settle down (A RT still must be added).

DG does not seem like the type that does anything in despeation....so lets calm down....and see how Thursday play out


Are you Paul Dottino???. Two more years of Eli? No thanks. It’s amazing how some people just ignore how poorly he has played for over 3 seasons now and pins every thing on the offensive line. The E hive. Let’s just keep delaying the process maybe we replace Eli by the year 2025
If Allen is there at 6 and we DON’T  
Dave on the UWS : 4/21/2019 10:40 am : link
take him, then I’ll be pissed. Otherwise a QB is fine. No one is jumping us at 6 for Jones. (Allen or Williams at 6, a minor miracle, trade up from 17 for Jones and I’m good. As long as they use later rd picks and next year’s capital to move up. #37 is important to keep this year.
RE: It s been stated over and  
Scuzzlebutt : 4/21/2019 11:50 am : link
In comment 14395852 joeinpa said:
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Over, the Giants have many needs. Your post seems to indicate you don’t believe quarterback is one of them. In the short term, accepting the opinion of many, that Eli will be fine, not listing quarterback as a need is valid.

In the long term, if Giants follow your narrative, they will in consecutive years have passed on 7 or 8 quarterbacks who were taken in the first round, Yikes!


I am not all that concerned with the number of QB’s they pass on. I am more concerned with how many QB’s they pass on that become better than average. We can find an average guy. At this point in his career Eli is pretty much average and probably can be for a few more years at least.
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