Does John tell Dany she’s been doodling her nephew Aegon Targaryen?
The inquisition of Jammie Lannister who saves him? Bran? Brienne?
The continuation of the Sansa bitchfest 2019.
Tormund and company arrive at winterfell and let everyone know the shit is about to hit the fan.
Remember no matter where you are or what your doing he’s watching
this one is the white walkers, then you have a set-up episode before the kings landing battle, then the kings landing battle episode, and then a concluding episode
i'm not a fan of the White Walkers, just so much being made of them for nothing, really. So part of me wants it to be over with episode 3, but it would essentially be an 8 season tease for 1 battle. Not really sure what route they will take but this wouldn't surprise me.
this one is the white walkers, then you have a set-up episode before the kings landing battle, then the kings landing battle episode, and then a concluding episode
I don't think they will finish the Night King & the Walkers this episode.
The remaining episodes are all bonus sized. 1 hour & 20 minutes each. I think the North is gonna take a bit of a beating this week, then some gamesmanship & scrambling is gonna have to take place to seize power from Cersei & Euron Greyjoy. Take control of the Lannister Army, Iron Fleet & Golden Company...then defeat the Night King. That's my guess.
But which monarch would legitimize Gendry? Certainly not Cersei or Dany. I guess, maybe Jon, if he is declared King, but what purpose would that serve? If they wanted to go that route I think they would have had Jon legitimize him while he was still King in the North.
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i mentioned this before, any "monarch" can legitimize a bastard.
All Gendry needs is any monarch to legitimize him as Robert's heir and his claim becomes as strong as Dany or Jon's.
I don't think that's realistic. What monarch would legitimize him so that he can take the monarch's job? I suppose a dying one...but Cercei hated ARobert and it would seem out of character anyway. To Danys, a Baratheon would not be seen as a legitimate crown-holder. Jon was kept in the dark his whole life because a Baratheon would have killed him. A monarch of a different country would have no standing to legitimize him.
There could be many reasons and it's not just to claim the throne. Leigitimization is done to make a bastard essentially trueborn and they get the social status and "honor" and rights of being true born.
Stannis offered to legitimize Jon Snow as a Stark so he'd be the legitimate heir to Winterfell and Warden of the North in exchange for his allegiance taking back the North from the Bolton's.
Gendry can be legitimized for many reasons and it's not always by someone to take their job.
I think Dany might die next week also. I could see her dragon being taken down when they attempt to kill the night king in Bran's trap. If the lightbringer sword is going to arrive this season it could be at this moment after Dany turns into a walker and Jon drives his sword through her heart.
What I was hoping to see was that the Night King does serious damage at Winterfell but then heads south without killing everyone and leaving Rhaegal and Drogon alive. Then he attacks Kings Landing while the North regroups. As Cersei's army is being decimated The remaining members of Jon and Dany's army heads south and attacks the night kings army from the south. The two armies defeat the Night King but Cersei being Cersei she immediately orders her army to attack the North. Then we immediately have the second huge battle for the Iron Throne.
I think the unsullied and dothraki could go home if Dany is killed. That scene with Grey Worm sort of set that up IMO.
I think the unsullied and dothraki could go home if Dany is killed. That scene with Grey Worm sort of set that up IMO.
I think that most of them will be wiped out next week. If she is killed I think Jon will win the remaining fighters over with his bravery in the battle against the Night King.
Depends who you ask. Robert has Targaryan blood and he personally killed Rhaegar and the Mountain killed Rhaegars children. Ned and Jon Arryn both viewed Robert as having the best claim.
Sure, Viserion and Dany called Robert a userper, but he doesn't view it that way.
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Jon Snow aka Aegon and then Dany would have a higher claim than Gendry even if Gendry was legitimized. They were next in line after the Mad King, Rhaegar, and Viserys were killed. Robert technically didn't really have a claim while Dany and Aegon are alive.
Depends who you ask. Robert has Targaryan blood and he personally killed Rhaegar and the Mountain killed Rhaegars children. Ned and Jon Arryn both viewed Robert as having the best claim.
Sure, Viserion and Dany called Robert a userper, but he doesn't view it that way.
Viserys
Don't worry, the crypts are the safest place to be! They remind us every 10 minutes! I may head down there to watch the show.
Not sure if I expect a red wedding type of event - maybe something more along the lines of Cersei blowing up the Sept. The Army of the Dead gets in and - poof - everyone down there is gone.
Yeah it makes no sense. Huge swing and miss from the showrunners here.
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There is a dead army on the way with a leader that can raise the dead and they think it’s wise to put the women, children, and the helpless in a crypt surrounded by 1000 years worth of dead Starks? How have they not figured this out? I’m fully expecting a red wedding scene next week in the crypt.
Yeah it makes no sense. Huge swing and miss from the showrunners here.
I think I might be misunderstanding your point.
How is it a swing and miss yet at this point. I feel like the continued assumptions of the crypts being safe must have some foreshadowing...
Maybe the wildcard is Tyrion knowing it ahead of time (and the reason for why he wants to fight instead of go down there). We will see.
I think this story is shaping up to be a tragedy, that tragedy being Jon Snow. Craster's Keep? The father was partly Targaryen. Why has the NK always looked at Jon fondly?
Jon is the supposed leader of the "good side" but what is more tragic than realizing as much as you want to play one team, you have to play for another? What if the prince who was promised is actually the NK's prince? Ned and Jon have had many dreams of angry statues in the crypts, and we know there is going to be a big reveal down there.
Jon's lineage has in many ways been a handicap to him, and now once he has the right to the "iron throne" its actually his destiny to be the next night king. Thinking the mixture of old gods blood (northerners) with new gods blood (targaryen's blood, not even from Westeros) disrupted a "balance in the force" if you wanna call it that...
Anyway, i could see this NK dying, but his goal was really to wake the original who lies deep within the crypts of WInterfell. Everyone assumes the NK is going straight for Bran, i think he might throw them a curveball and head for the crypts.
Not impressed with the first 2 episodes given how long they had to write them. Do we really need several minutes of dragons flying around or a musical number? That is just lazy writing
Not impressed with the first 2 episodes given how long they had to write them. Do we really need several minutes of dragons flying around or a musical number? That is just lazy writing
Agreed, i thought the writing last episode was trash. The Bran-Jamie and Bran-Tyrion scenes were cut short, and overall i feel the dialogue is way off for certain characters. Arya scene felt forced, she's concerned with getting laid now? Is Bran not human? Then whats up with the cheesy one liners he spews out? If you're going to make him cold, commit to it 100%. Some character arcs seem off.
Since we've met Arya she's rebelled being a princess, didn't want to be a lady, learned to fight under Syrio, faught along side the Hound, and became no one under Jaquen. SHe's never once cared about love, or romance. Her sex scene was messy story telling, plain and simple.
Which is why I don't buy (or shouldn't by given how he's been sold), Sam of all people, not telling everyone the plan at Winterfell is trash, they need to find somewhere else for the women and children.
Since we've met Arya she's rebelled being a princess, didn't want to be a lady, learned to fight under Syrio, faught along side the Hound, and became no one under Jaquen. SHe's never once cared about love, or romance. Her sex scene was messy story telling, plain and simple.
Which is why I don't buy (or shouldn't by given how he's been sold), Sam of all people, not telling everyone the plan at Winterfell is trash, they need to find somewhere else for the women and children.
Weird to think that Arya is the only badass on this show that can't also want to get laid occasionally.
I also think it's possible that she had another motive that hasn't been made clear to us yet. I agree that a sudden bout of D-thirst would be an odd use of airtime as well as change in character....I trust that there's more to it than that.
From the trailer Arya is running from something and it's scary enough to actually frighten her. I am expecting either Gendry, a friend who was just killed and turned, A family member(Ned, Rickon, etc), or the Night King is after her. Perhaps she is the one who kills Viserys but the Night King sends several of his men after her.
The directors confirmed that scene never takes place and it was just shot as a teaser.
I would think most of the dead in the crypts would be decomposed (even bones turned to dust)? I'm no expert but I think it has to do with the soil etc.
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the scene in a trailer before the season started, where Arya, Jon and Sansa are deep in the crypts and "winter" has finally set in? Not only are going to see some dead Starks, i'm thinking we may see the OG night king. It's becoming more and more obvious the bottom depts of the crypts were tombs but more so prisons, built after the last long night.
The directors confirmed that scene never takes place and it was just shot as a teaser.
Gotcha well maybe some foreshadowing with it then idk
Since we've met Arya she's rebelled being a princess, didn't want to be a lady, learned to fight under Syrio, faught along side the Hound, and became no one under Jaquen. SHe's never once cared about love, or romance. Her sex scene was messy story telling, plain and simple.
She's become her own person, she thinks she's probably dying in a day. I'm missing the issue there. There wasn't a hint of love or romance. And, much like her recent actions, she did it on her own terms.
She's always wanted to do her own thing and experience important stuff and especially stuff that goes against norms. I don't know why it would be out of line, knowing it was her last night on earth to want to do another adult or even taboo thing that she would otherwise never experience.
Heck, if I only had moments to live, sex wouldn't be a bad thing to try one last time (please don't take that "moments" part as indicative of anything).
She is facing death as a virgin, and the only person outside of her family she ever had feelings for is there and can take her virginity.
while I found the scene awkward (I think we were supposed to) it in no way leads me to believe it's not Arya or that it's out of character for Arya.
no idea how it turns out, but that did not seem far fetched to me.
I read earlier at first she thought it was a practical joke when they got the script they were like no it shows she gets her humanity back and she had full control of what and how much gets shown. She said she stayed on the cautious side I thought they did it perfectly with showing her scars and not just flashing her toys and ass like the girls in the whore house.
Cersei?
It's far more likely IMO Tyrion fulfills Cersei's prophecy and chokes the life out of her than joins her.
I kind of think the story ends this way - with Tyrion choking Cersei to death, and you see Cersei die, but Qyburn still delivers her baby and when the baby is born it opens it's eyes and they're ice blue, like a wight and then the ending credits roll.
I expect something like this. Or someone we absolutely hate sitting down on the throne for all of us to be enraged.
No, they made no mention of it on the show but the actress is reportedly pregnant but she hasn't confirmed.
Am I missing it?
Not impressed with the first 2 episodes given how long they had to write them. Do we really need several minutes of dragons flying around or a musical number? That is just lazy writing
The dragon flying was 1 minute, 50 seconds and was necessary for a number of reasons articulated in prior threads on this site. I'm not defending the first episode, but many of the complaints are just whining by folks with unrealistic, impossible to achieve expectations going in.
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Anyone who thinks the crypts are the safest place to be when the Night King attacks deserves to die.
Not impressed with the first 2 episodes given how long they had to write them. Do we really need several minutes of dragons flying around or a musical number? That is just lazy writing
The dragon flying was 1 minute, 50 seconds and was necessary for a number of reasons articulated in prior threads on this site. I'm not defending the first episode, but many of the complaints are just whining by folks with unrealistic, impossible to achieve expectations going in.
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Anyone who thinks the crypts are the safest place to be when the Night King attacks deserves to die.
Not impressed with the first 2 episodes given how long they had to write them. Do we really need several minutes of dragons flying around or a musical number? That is just lazy writing
The dragon flying was 1 minute, 50 seconds and was necessary for a number of reasons articulated in prior threads on this site. I'm not defending the first episode, but many of the complaints are just whining by folks with unrealistic, impossible to achieve expectations going in.
Well you have to include the rest of that scene in it also. The Dragon flying was the best part the rest not so much
But during the course of the show she grew from being a pre-teen to becoming a woman. A lot of time has passed by. I think that was part of the reason why they showed her disrobing - to emphasize that she has grown physically as well as in age.
But that aside, it's not like she's fawning over Gendry. Her wanting sex at that moment actually seemed very transactional. I don't think there was ever even a moment that she cracked a smile.
I think it's pretty consistent with where her character is at this point - she's been through a lot and is very distrusting of most people, especially men. But as best as possible she continues to try to cling to her own humanity. Her having that moment with Gendry was a natural progression.
Does that indicate both Tyrion and Jaime survive the war only to face Bronn?
Does that indicate both Tyrion and Jaime survive the war only to face Bronn?
Not sure if he shows up this week but if I had to guess it will look like he’s going to carry out Cersei’s wishes then bow down at the last second.
#brosbeforemaniacalhos
Side note how gratifying would it be for him if he got to kill off Cersei since they can’t even be on screen together since they hate each other so much