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Especially this year my impression is no one has any idea what the Giants are going to do. Personally, I've never been more unsure
We're happy to hear something like this but let's not mislead ourselves. It just came out yesterday that Jones is our number 1 rated. There has been lots of information leaking about the Giants' preferences. Not being "sure" is a low bar.
You could also say that maybe the reason is being this year the Giants themselves are less sure of what they want to do in the draft than ever before.
Anyway, I think the real reason this statement resonates is the QB dynamic - will we take one or will we not - and how that can so dramatically change everything.
RE: While it sounds nice, this is pretty meaningless Â
We're happy to hear something like this but let's not mislead ourselves. It just came out yesterday that Jones is our number 1 rated. There has been lots of information leaking about the Giants' preferences. Not being "sure" is a low bar.
You could also say that maybe the reason is being this year the Giants themselves are less sure of what they want to do in the draft than ever before.
Anyway, I think the real reason this statement resonates is the QB dynamic - will we take one or will we not - and how that can so dramatically change everything.
#1 rated QB, maybe. Not necessarily their #1 rated player.
We're happy to hear something like this but let's not mislead ourselves. It just came out yesterday that Jones is our number 1 rated. There has been lots of information leaking about the Giants' preferences. Not being "sure" is a low bar.
You could also say that maybe the reason is being this year the Giants themselves are less sure of what they want to do in the draft than ever before.
Anyway, I think the real reason this statement resonates is the QB dynamic - will we take one or will we not - and how that can so dramatically change everything.
#1 rated QB, maybe. Not necessarily their #1 rated player.
was a no-brainer, after multiple people saying he was the best prospect since Peyton.
This year I have no clue what they’re going to do, but there’s such a derth of good options it’s hard to get upset unless it’s something super unexpected, like them taking a WR.
it’s a question of scoops to get clicks and sell papers. I would have to believe they have several scenarios (including trades) worked out to be ready.
Not sure I would go this far... most people seem to think the Giants will draft their top defensive player on the board at #6. Some outliers say QB, with most know specifically saying Jones.
Not sure I would go this far... most people seem to think the Giants will draft their top defensive player on the board at #6. Some outliers say QB, with most know specifically saying Jones.
To me, the bigger mystery may be #17.
Gotta go defense first. Too much talent there to pass up, and God knows they need help at every level.
#17? If I had to guess, I'd say that's where they get an OT.
I am not sure any of our resident asshats know anything Â
This season. I appreciate the information they provide and believe they are hearing tidbits from reliable sources inside the organization, but my assumption is that they hear stuff from scouts, training staff or other people who are not in the inner circle.
My feeling is the same as someone said above - it’s likely only Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur and Abrams have any idea what the actual plan is. Possible it’s only Gettleman at this point.
Remember, last year Dorsey only revealed the plan was to draft Mayfield to Browns staffers (including the coaches and owners) the day of the draft. This time last year every knew they were taking Darnold or Allen. As it turns out Darnold was their fourth rated QB and they never had any intention of taking him.
And they had the first pick and no real need for misdirection.
Not sure I would go this far... most people seem to think the Giants will draft their top defensive player on the board at #6. Some outliers say QB, with most know specifically saying Jones.
To me, the bigger mystery may be #17.
So a defensive player or QB? That narrows it down;)
RE: I am not sure any of our resident asshats know anything Â
This season. I appreciate the information they provide and believe they are hearing tidbits from reliable sources inside the organization, but my assumption is that they hear stuff from scouts, training staff or other people who are not in the inner circle.
My feeling is the same as someone said above - it’s likely only Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur and Abrams have any idea what the actual plan is. Possible it’s only Gettleman at this point.
Remember, last year Dorsey only revealed the plan was to draft Mayfield to Browns staffers (including the coaches and owners) the day of the draft. This time last year every knew they were taking Darnold or Allen. As it turns out Darnold was their fourth rated QB and they never had any intention of taking him.
And they had the first pick and no real need for misdirection.
I think Dorsey was trying to figure out the leaks. Gil Brandt mentioned something like this a few days ago. I hope DG follows suit. Though I'm pretty sure the one responsible for a lot of leaks to the media in the past was Ross.
in a deep defensive draft. DG almost fixed the OL in FA and last years draft already. A few more pieces and we will be back. If we are right about ELI.s longevity. Think positive.
This season. I appreciate the information they provide and believe they are hearing tidbits from reliable sources inside the organization, but my assumption is that they hear stuff from scouts, training staff or other people who are not in the inner circle.
My feeling is the same as someone said above - it’s likely only Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur and Abrams have any idea what the actual plan is. Possible it’s only Gettleman at this point.
Remember, last year Dorsey only revealed the plan was to draft Mayfield to Browns staffers (including the coaches and owners) the day of the draft. This time last year every knew they were taking Darnold or Allen. As it turns out Darnold was their fourth rated QB and they never had any intention of taking him.
And they had the first pick and no real need for misdirection.
I think Dorsey was trying to figure out the leaks. Gil Brandt mentioned something like this a few days ago. I hope DG follows suit. Though I'm pretty sure the one responsible for a lot of leaks to the media in the past was Ross.
Dorsey also held out hope of getting both Mayfield AND Barclay. We stood in their way. Ballsy move would have been to take Barkley first and then hope for Mayfield 4th. Likely would have worked for them, but it would have been ballsy. Probably giving everyone else, especially us, a chance to tip their hats.
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This season. I appreciate the information they provide and believe they are hearing tidbits from reliable sources inside the organization, but my assumption is that they hear stuff from scouts, training staff or other people who are not in the inner circle.
My feeling is the same as someone said above - it’s likely only Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur and Abrams have any idea what the actual plan is. Possible it’s only Gettleman at this point.
Remember, last year Dorsey only revealed the plan was to draft Mayfield to Browns staffers (including the coaches and owners) the day of the draft. This time last year every knew they were taking Darnold or Allen. As it turns out Darnold was their fourth rated QB and they never had any intention of taking him.
And they had the first pick and no real need for misdirection.
I think Dorsey was trying to figure out the leaks. Gil Brandt mentioned something like this a few days ago. I hope DG follows suit. Though I'm pretty sure the one responsible for a lot of leaks to the media in the past was Ross.
Dorsey also held out hope of getting both Mayfield AND Barclay. We stood in their way. Ballsy move would have been to take Barkley first and then hope for Mayfield 4th. Likely would have worked for them, but it would have been ballsy. Probably giving everyone else, especially us, a chance to tip their hats.
We likely go Chubb at 2 there. Jets go Darnold or Mayfield at 3.
Of course he’s comfortable, everyone is undefeated at this point. This is the fun time of year. Even on BBI you would think we showed incredible promise last season and Shurmur was the goods. Reality sets in pretty quick in September and October. Let’s hope this season is different.
in a deep defensive draft. DG almost fixed the OL in FA and last years draft already. A few more pieces and we will be back. If we are right about ELI.s longevity. Think positive.
DG made it clear he isn't planning on drafting 12 players. Which is why a trade up even from 6 to 4 or 3 is not necessarily bad strategy for a gold jacket player (Q. Williams).
RE: RE: I am not sure any of our resident asshats know anything Â
This season. I appreciate the information they provide and believe they are hearing tidbits from reliable sources inside the organization, but my assumption is that they hear stuff from scouts, training staff or other people who are not in the inner circle.
My feeling is the same as someone said above - it’s likely only Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur and Abrams have any idea what the actual plan is. Possible it’s only Gettleman at this point.
Remember, last year Dorsey only revealed the plan was to draft Mayfield to Browns staffers (including the coaches and owners) the day of the draft. This time last year every knew they were taking Darnold or Allen. As it turns out Darnold was their fourth rated QB and they never had any intention of taking him.
And they had the first pick and no real need for misdirection.
I think Dorsey was trying to figure out the leaks. Gil Brandt mentioned something like this a few days ago. I hope DG follows suit. Though I'm pretty sure the one responsible for a lot of leaks to the media in the past was Ross.
If Gettleman knows what he is doing, he is attempting to plug leaks. Of course, just yesterday JT Giants said the Giants do not care about information leaking to the press. No, that is not hyperbole or a misquote. If that is the case, he and the entire front office should be shitcanned.
Dorsey had it right last year, and the Raiders have it right this year. Trust no one. Gettleman would be smart to follow that strategy.
RE: RE: RE: I am not sure any of our resident asshats know anything Â
This season. I appreciate the information they provide and believe they are hearing tidbits from reliable sources inside the organization, but my assumption is that they hear stuff from scouts, training staff or other people who are not in the inner circle.
My feeling is the same as someone said above - it’s likely only Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur and Abrams have any idea what the actual plan is. Possible it’s only Gettleman at this point.
Remember, last year Dorsey only revealed the plan was to draft Mayfield to Browns staffers (including the coaches and owners) the day of the draft. This time last year every knew they were taking Darnold or Allen. As it turns out Darnold was their fourth rated QB and they never had any intention of taking him.
And they had the first pick and no real need for misdirection.
I think Dorsey was trying to figure out the leaks. Gil Brandt mentioned something like this a few days ago. I hope DG follows suit. Though I'm pretty sure the one responsible for a lot of leaks to the media in the past was Ross.
If Gettleman knows what he is doing, he is attempting to plug leaks. Of course, just yesterday JT Giants said the Giants do not care about information leaking to the press. No, that is not hyperbole or a misquote. If that is the case, he and the entire front office should be shitcanned.
Dorsey had it right last year, and the Raiders have it right this year. Trust no one. Gettleman would be smart to follow that strategy.
He really said that, wow. It's just stuff like this that makes it hard for me to believe in the front office. I want them to do well, but they are not exactly giving me reason to.
I do think it narrows it down. It's not completely wide open. The prevailing opinion is it will be a DL or edge player.
I’m going to continue Hoping for Haskins. We’ll see what happens. I know you had a gut feeling for a while the guy was Haskins. I guess you are off that train.
One possibility is they're interested in Rosen, but as I've said before, I don't believe the Cards will make a trade until on the night of the draft. If the Cards ask too much or the Giants are trumped by another team, they switch their attention to Daniel Jones. If they can get Rosen for less than a first round pick, then they still have two premium picks to use on Gettleman's beloved hogg mollies, whilst Jones will use up one of those first rounders.
My mind will be absolutely blown if they don't take a QB Â
I think they have hit the point where a successor is necessary. And the noise from Mara and Gettleman indicates they know that but are trying to keep a lid on things until draft day.
I will be surprised if Haskins or Jones is not the pick at #6.
RE: My mind will be absolutely blown if they don't take a QB Â
I think they have hit the point where a successor is necessary. And the noise from Mara and Gettleman indicates they know that but are trying to keep a lid on things until draft day.
I will be surprised if Haskins or Jones is not the pick at #6.
Be prepared to be disappointed
RE: I am not sure any of our resident asshats know anything Â
This season. I appreciate the information they provide and believe they are hearing tidbits from reliable sources inside the organization, but my assumption is that they hear stuff from scouts, training staff or other people who are not in the inner circle.
My feeling is the same as someone said above - it’s likely only Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur and Abrams have any idea what the actual plan is. Possible it’s only Gettleman at this point.
Remember, last year Dorsey only revealed the plan was to draft Mayfield to Browns staffers (including the coaches and owners) the day of the draft. This time last year every knew they were taking Darnold or Allen. As it turns out Darnold was their fourth rated QB and they never had any intention of taking him.
And they had the first pick and no real need for misdirection.
They did have a need for misdirection because they also held the #4 pick.
RE: My mind will be absolutely blown if they don't take a QB Â
I think they have hit the point where a successor is necessary. And the noise from Mara and Gettleman indicates they know that but are trying to keep a lid on things until draft day.
I will be surprised if Haskins or Jones is not the pick at #6.
They’ve both flat out said they aren’t forcing a pick just to shut the fans up and view QB as just another piece of the puzzle
Agreed. We must have debated a dozen names and we still have no idea.
Apparently chargers are dark horse for Rosen’s services ... really hope 4 QB go before 17. Elite day 1 contributors on defense at 6/17.
You could also say that maybe the reason is being this year the Giants themselves are less sure of what they want to do in the draft than ever before.
Anyway, I think the real reason this statement resonates is the QB dynamic - will we take one or will we not - and how that can so dramatically change everything.
You could also say that maybe the reason is being this year the Giants themselves are less sure of what they want to do in the draft than ever before.
Anyway, I think the real reason this statement resonates is the QB dynamic - will we take one or will we not - and how that can so dramatically change everything.
#1 rated QB, maybe. Not necessarily their #1 rated player.
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We're happy to hear something like this but let's not mislead ourselves. It just came out yesterday that Jones is our number 1 rated. There has been lots of information leaking about the Giants' preferences. Not being "sure" is a low bar.
You could also say that maybe the reason is being this year the Giants themselves are less sure of what they want to do in the draft than ever before.
Anyway, I think the real reason this statement resonates is the QB dynamic - will we take one or will we not - and how that can so dramatically change everything.
#1 rated QB, maybe. Not necessarily their #1 rated player.
Right, yes - typo leaving that out.
They told him they have no idea where Giants are going. Only Gettleman, Shurmur and Mara do. Did not mention Tisch.
This year I have no clue what they’re going to do, but there’s such a derth of good options it’s hard to get upset unless it’s something super unexpected, like them taking a WR.
Even if you assume Zona stupidly takes Murray, it's still complicated after that.
They told him they have no idea where Giants are going. Only Gettleman, Shurmur and Mara do. Did not mention Tisch.
If I was Tisch, I'd feel attacked by this. I would demand to know, its in his rights, lol.
Who cares? Why not just be ready to give input on the players they choose.
They told him they have no idea where Giants are going. Only Gettleman, Shurmur and Mara do. Did not mention Tisch.
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Co host of Giants Insider podcast said, he has very reliable sources inside Giants stadium whom he has gotten reliable info from for many years.
They told him they have no idea where Giants are going. Only Gettleman, Shurmur and Mara do. Did not mention Tisch.
If I was Tisch, I'd feel attacked by this. I would demand to know, its in his rights, lol.
How do you know that's not Chris Mara, who actually has a football role with the team vs John Mara who is "just" an owner like Tisch.
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Co host of Giants Insider podcast said, he has very reliable sources inside Giants stadium whom he has gotten reliable info from for many years.
They told him they have no idea where Giants are going. Only Gettleman, Shurmur and Mara do. Did not mention Tisch.
If I was Tisch, I'd feel attacked by this. I would demand to know, its in his rights, lol.
How do you know that's not Chris Mara, who actually has a football role with the team vs John Mara who is "just" an owner like Tisch.
You really think John Mara would not know, seriously? Anyway s if Chris knows, then John would know and vice-versa
Who cares? Why not just be ready to give input on the players they choose.
Makes no difference who the pick is, but you can be sure the media will say its the wrong pick.
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Co host of Giants Insider podcast said, he has very reliable sources inside Giants stadium whom he has gotten reliable info from for many years.
They told him they have no idea where Giants are going. Only Gettleman, Shurmur and Mara do. Did not mention Tisch.
If I was Tisch, I'd feel attacked by this. I would demand to know, its in his rights, lol.
How do you know that's not Chris Mara, who actually has a football role with the team vs John Mara who is "just" an owner like Tisch.
You really think John Mara would not know, seriously? Anyway s if Chris knows, then John would know and vice-versa
I don't know who knows, nor do I know if one Mara knows it means the other one does too.
I don't like to pretend I'm an expert about NHL front office information sharing.
My post was merely a question about Mara knowing.
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Co host of Giants Insider podcast said, he has very reliable sources inside Giants stadium whom he has gotten reliable info from for many years.
They told him they have no idea where Giants are going. Only Gettleman, Shurmur and Mara do. Did not mention Tisch.
If I was Tisch, I'd feel attacked by this. I would demand to know, its in his rights, lol.
How do you know that's not Chris Mara, who actually has a football role with the team vs John Mara who is "just" an owner like Tisch.
You really think John Mara would not know, seriously? Anyway s if Chris knows, then John would know and vice-versa
I don't know who knows, nor do I know if one Mara knows it means the other one does too.
I don't like to pretend I'm an expert about NHL front office information sharing.
My post was merely a question about Mara knowing.
meant *NFL* - of course I'm watching Bruins Leafs
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thinks it is a bad thing if they don't know who NYG is going to take.
Who cares? Why not just be ready to give input on the players they choose.
Makes no difference who the pick is, but you can be sure the media will say its the wrong pick.
And BBIers as well
They told him they have no idea where Giants are going. Only Gettleman, Shurmur and Mara do. Did not mention Tisch.
If this is true it would mean that none of the asshats know anything either.
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Co host of Giants Insider podcast said, he has very reliable sources inside Giants stadium whom he has gotten reliable info from for many years.
They told him they have no idea where Giants are going. Only Gettleman, Shurmur and Mara do. Did not mention Tisch.
If this is true it would mean that none of the asshats know anything either.
It would be nice if the giants snokescreened everyone for a change. Money is on JonC though, hes got a great track record
To me, the bigger mystery may be #17.
To me, the bigger mystery may be #17.
Gotta go defense first. Too much talent there to pass up, and God knows they need help at every level.
#17? If I had to guess, I'd say that's where they get an OT.
My feeling is the same as someone said above - it’s likely only Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur and Abrams have any idea what the actual plan is. Possible it’s only Gettleman at this point.
Remember, last year Dorsey only revealed the plan was to draft Mayfield to Browns staffers (including the coaches and owners) the day of the draft. This time last year every knew they were taking Darnold or Allen. As it turns out Darnold was their fourth rated QB and they never had any intention of taking him.
And they had the first pick and no real need for misdirection.
To me, the bigger mystery may be #17.
So a defensive player or QB? That narrows it down;)
My feeling is the same as someone said above - it’s likely only Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur and Abrams have any idea what the actual plan is. Possible it’s only Gettleman at this point.
Remember, last year Dorsey only revealed the plan was to draft Mayfield to Browns staffers (including the coaches and owners) the day of the draft. This time last year every knew they were taking Darnold or Allen. As it turns out Darnold was their fourth rated QB and they never had any intention of taking him.
And they had the first pick and no real need for misdirection.
I think Dorsey was trying to figure out the leaks. Gil Brandt mentioned something like this a few days ago. I hope DG follows suit. Though I'm pretty sure the one responsible for a lot of leaks to the media in the past was Ross.
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This season. I appreciate the information they provide and believe they are hearing tidbits from reliable sources inside the organization, but my assumption is that they hear stuff from scouts, training staff or other people who are not in the inner circle.
My feeling is the same as someone said above - it’s likely only Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur and Abrams have any idea what the actual plan is. Possible it’s only Gettleman at this point.
Remember, last year Dorsey only revealed the plan was to draft Mayfield to Browns staffers (including the coaches and owners) the day of the draft. This time last year every knew they were taking Darnold or Allen. As it turns out Darnold was their fourth rated QB and they never had any intention of taking him.
And they had the first pick and no real need for misdirection.
I think Dorsey was trying to figure out the leaks. Gil Brandt mentioned something like this a few days ago. I hope DG follows suit. Though I'm pretty sure the one responsible for a lot of leaks to the media in the past was Ross.
Dorsey also held out hope of getting both Mayfield AND Barclay. We stood in their way. Ballsy move would have been to take Barkley first and then hope for Mayfield 4th. Likely would have worked for them, but it would have been ballsy. Probably giving everyone else, especially us, a chance to tip their hats.
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This season. I appreciate the information they provide and believe they are hearing tidbits from reliable sources inside the organization, but my assumption is that they hear stuff from scouts, training staff or other people who are not in the inner circle.
My feeling is the same as someone said above - it’s likely only Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur and Abrams have any idea what the actual plan is. Possible it’s only Gettleman at this point.
Remember, last year Dorsey only revealed the plan was to draft Mayfield to Browns staffers (including the coaches and owners) the day of the draft. This time last year every knew they were taking Darnold or Allen. As it turns out Darnold was their fourth rated QB and they never had any intention of taking him.
And they had the first pick and no real need for misdirection.
I think Dorsey was trying to figure out the leaks. Gil Brandt mentioned something like this a few days ago. I hope DG follows suit. Though I'm pretty sure the one responsible for a lot of leaks to the media in the past was Ross.
Dorsey also held out hope of getting both Mayfield AND Barclay. We stood in their way. Ballsy move would have been to take Barkley first and then hope for Mayfield 4th. Likely would have worked for them, but it would have been ballsy. Probably giving everyone else, especially us, a chance to tip their hats.
We likely go Chubb at 2 there. Jets go Darnold or Mayfield at 3.
Of course he’s comfortable, everyone is undefeated at this point. This is the fun time of year. Even on BBI you would think we showed incredible promise last season and Shurmur was the goods. Reality sets in pretty quick in September and October. Let’s hope this season is different.
DG made it clear he isn't planning on drafting 12 players. Which is why a trade up even from 6 to 4 or 3 is not necessarily bad strategy for a gold jacket player (Q. Williams).
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This season. I appreciate the information they provide and believe they are hearing tidbits from reliable sources inside the organization, but my assumption is that they hear stuff from scouts, training staff or other people who are not in the inner circle.
My feeling is the same as someone said above - it’s likely only Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur and Abrams have any idea what the actual plan is. Possible it’s only Gettleman at this point.
Remember, last year Dorsey only revealed the plan was to draft Mayfield to Browns staffers (including the coaches and owners) the day of the draft. This time last year every knew they were taking Darnold or Allen. As it turns out Darnold was their fourth rated QB and they never had any intention of taking him.
And they had the first pick and no real need for misdirection.
I think Dorsey was trying to figure out the leaks. Gil Brandt mentioned something like this a few days ago. I hope DG follows suit. Though I'm pretty sure the one responsible for a lot of leaks to the media in the past was Ross.
If Gettleman knows what he is doing, he is attempting to plug leaks. Of course, just yesterday JT Giants said the Giants do not care about information leaking to the press. No, that is not hyperbole or a misquote. If that is the case, he and the entire front office should be shitcanned.
Dorsey had it right last year, and the Raiders have it right this year. Trust no one. Gettleman would be smart to follow that strategy.
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This season. I appreciate the information they provide and believe they are hearing tidbits from reliable sources inside the organization, but my assumption is that they hear stuff from scouts, training staff or other people who are not in the inner circle.
My feeling is the same as someone said above - it’s likely only Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur and Abrams have any idea what the actual plan is. Possible it’s only Gettleman at this point.
Remember, last year Dorsey only revealed the plan was to draft Mayfield to Browns staffers (including the coaches and owners) the day of the draft. This time last year every knew they were taking Darnold or Allen. As it turns out Darnold was their fourth rated QB and they never had any intention of taking him.
And they had the first pick and no real need for misdirection.
I think Dorsey was trying to figure out the leaks. Gil Brandt mentioned something like this a few days ago. I hope DG follows suit. Though I'm pretty sure the one responsible for a lot of leaks to the media in the past was Ross.
If Gettleman knows what he is doing, he is attempting to plug leaks. Of course, just yesterday JT Giants said the Giants do not care about information leaking to the press. No, that is not hyperbole or a misquote. If that is the case, he and the entire front office should be shitcanned.
Dorsey had it right last year, and the Raiders have it right this year. Trust no one. Gettleman would be smart to follow that strategy.
He really said that, wow. It's just stuff like this that makes it hard for me to believe in the front office. I want them to do well, but they are not exactly giving me reason to.
Who cares? Why not just be ready to give input on the players they choose.
I think many will dislike it if they went Daniel Jones.
They fixate on certain players and if the team they hope they land on doesn't pick them, they already lost.
That 2012 draft was a positive post-draft to them. Patience is not a member of their vocabulary.
I’m going to continue Hoping for Haskins. We’ll see what happens. I know you had a gut feeling for a while the guy was Haskins. I guess you are off that train.
I will be surprised if Haskins or Jones is not the pick at #6.
I will be surprised if Haskins or Jones is not the pick at #6.
My feeling is the same as someone said above - it’s likely only Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur and Abrams have any idea what the actual plan is. Possible it’s only Gettleman at this point.
Remember, last year Dorsey only revealed the plan was to draft Mayfield to Browns staffers (including the coaches and owners) the day of the draft. This time last year every knew they were taking Darnold or Allen. As it turns out Darnold was their fourth rated QB and they never had any intention of taking him.
And they had the first pick and no real need for misdirection.
They did have a need for misdirection because they also held the #4 pick.
I will be surprised if Haskins or Jones is not the pick at #6.
They’ve both flat out said they aren’t forcing a pick just to shut the fans up and view QB as just another piece of the puzzle