That's a tough spot. With those guys off the board you can make the case that Hockensen is the best player available. It would be largely panned and it's not a flashy move, but if you don't love one of the QBs the argument can be made. Thursday is going to be interested. I've never been this conflicted/undecided about what I even want them to do let alone what they're gonna do.
Wilkins seems like cleaner player, Oliver is exciting player though, seems to come with more risk. Would be interested to see what Giants would do if Oliver made it to 6.
I would pick White. Our LB corps is so bad -- worse than our DL by far. We need a playmaker LB. Devin White. Sweat would not surprise me, nor would Oliver. White's less-than-perfect instincts will improve with experience.
So you could take Bush who would bolster the D against both the run and pass manning the middle of the D then grab one of Wilkins, Ferrell or Lawrence at #17 and bolster the DL
Must take a cb by #37 which then means having to take an OT by #95 which would improve the D by bolstering the run game and therefore increase time of possession.
Take another corner at #108 and a ER at #133 and you just might have something
Maybe Oliver’s ceiling is slightly higher burial take showing up vs Bama. And character wise it’s not close. Doesn’t mean Oliver won’t be a stud. Would be ok w Sweat or White too
Getts aggressive culture make over is in full force. He said he wants a lead dog at all levels of the D. When asked who are the current lead dogs he mentioned Bethea and Ogletree. What level was left out? DL....
Q.Williams and Wilks are very likely at the very top of the list.
Q.Williams is gold jacket material, breaking through double teams at will. Wilks will be very good but a bit below that.
Getts aggressive culture make over is in full force. He said he wants a lead dog at all levels of the D. When asked who are the current lead dogs he mentioned Bethea and Ogletree. What level was left out? DL....
Q.Williams and Wilks are very likely at the very top of the list.
Q.Williams is gold jacket material, breaking through double teams at will. Wilks will be very good but a bit below that.
I was listening to Dan Csonka from OURLADS, who was a guest on big blue kick off. I believe he said that Wilkins is a borderline gold jacket player, given his talent.
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Getts aggressive culture make over is in full force. He said he wants a lead dog at all levels of the D. When asked who are the current lead dogs he mentioned Bethea and Ogletree. What level was left out? DL....
Q.Williams and Wilks are very likely at the very top of the list.
Q.Williams is gold jacket material, breaking through double teams at will. Wilks will be very good but a bit below that.
I was listening to Dan Csonka from OURLADS, who was a guest on big blue kick off. I believe he said that Wilkins is a borderline gold jacket player, given his talent.
I dont see him wreaking the consistent havoc on the DL like Williams. And Bama doesnt quite have the talent on DL that Clemson does. More attention was paid to Williams yet he was absolutely dominant in every way regardless. AND he has rhe amazing character to boot.
This isn't to say Wilk wont be excellent but I dont quite see generational like I do with Q
But he is very much the pick I would expect out of DG at 6 if he is unsuccessful to trade up for Q.
Dexter is no where near the character guy Wilkins is.
I go Oliver (only if his interviews and coaches check the boxes of him being a team player). If his mentality isn’t a fit, I look at White in Bettcher’s scheme. If he doesn’t fit i go Sweat or trade down and load up on picks for this and next years draft.
everyone of those guys and how they will fit into our defense. Bettcher has seen all their films and talked to teammates, coaches and opponents about them all. How they work out in the locker room as well. Love this staff. Attention to detail.. We will not waste our 6th pick. IMO. Gotta believe.
Ed Oliver
Montez Sweat
That's a tough spot. With those guys off the board you can make the case that Hockensen is the best player available. It would be largely panned and it's not a flashy move, but if you don't love one of the QBs the argument can be made. Thursday is going to be interested. I've never been this conflicted/undecided about what I even want them to do let alone what they're gonna do.
(I’m aware Oliver is more “athletic”)
All the others seem fine.
A little down on white....seems to be caught in wrong direction of plays
Whoever THEY think is the best pass rusher for their system. Or fix the ORT if the values are similar.
Sweat would improve our third down numbers.
I want to come out of this draft feeling like I have a side of the LOS I can hang my hat on.
Doubt Bush will be there.
So you could take Bush who would bolster the D against both the run and pass manning the middle of the D then grab one of Wilkins, Ferrell or Lawrence at #17 and bolster the DL
Must take a cb by #37 which then means having to take an OT by #95 which would improve the D by bolstering the run game and therefore increase time of possession.
Take another corner at #108 and a ER at #133 and you just might have something
The rest are too boom or bust for my liking at 6.
2-- Sweat
3-- Wilkins
Q.Williams and Wilks are very likely at the very top of the list.
Q.Williams is gold jacket material, breaking through double teams at will. Wilks will be very good but a bit below that.
Wilkins is perfect scheme fit
Disruptive at nose tackle, disruptive at DE, athletic enough to stand up and rush/set the edge
Basically he’s everything Bettcher would want in a DL
But to be honest, i be happy with any of those players
Oliver
White
That order....
Q.Williams and Wilks are very likely at the very top of the list.
Q.Williams is gold jacket material, breaking through double teams at will. Wilks will be very good but a bit below that.
I was listening to Dan Csonka from OURLADS, who was a guest on big blue kick off. I believe he said that Wilkins is a borderline gold jacket player, given his talent.
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Getts aggressive culture make over is in full force. He said he wants a lead dog at all levels of the D. When asked who are the current lead dogs he mentioned Bethea and Ogletree. What level was left out? DL....
Q.Williams and Wilks are very likely at the very top of the list.
Q.Williams is gold jacket material, breaking through double teams at will. Wilks will be very good but a bit below that.
I was listening to Dan Csonka from OURLADS, who was a guest on big blue kick off. I believe he said that Wilkins is a borderline gold jacket player, given his talent.
I dont see him wreaking the consistent havoc on the DL like Williams. And Bama doesnt quite have the talent on DL that Clemson does. More attention was paid to Williams yet he was absolutely dominant in every way regardless. AND he has rhe amazing character to boot.
This isn't to say Wilk wont be excellent but I dont quite see generational like I do with Q
But he is very much the pick I would expect out of DG at 6 if he is unsuccessful to trade up for Q.
Dexter is no where near the character guy Wilkins is.
Wilkins
Oliver v White v Sweat.
At that point it would be fit.
I go Oliver (only if his interviews and coaches check the boxes of him being a team player). If his mentality isn’t a fit, I look at White in Bettcher’s scheme. If he doesn’t fit i go Sweat or trade down and load up on picks for this and next years draft.
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