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If you want defense at #6, assuming the following are gone..

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/21/2019 1:58 pm
Assuming Bosa, Quinnen Williams, and Josh Allen are gone, who do you like?

Montez Sweat
Ed Oliver
Christian Wilkins
Rashan Gary
Clelin Ferrell
Devin White

Someone else?
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I like Oliver  
UberAlias : 4/21/2019 2:00 pm : link
There
Probably Oliver. I say probably because there are personality issues  
Ira : 4/21/2019 2:03 pm : link
that need to be checked out.
Wilkins  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 4/21/2019 2:06 pm : link
I think Oliver vs. Wilkins is a toss up overall, but not in terms of fit for the Giants.
I could answer now, but I might.....  
MOOPS : 4/21/2019 2:06 pm : link
have a different guy in two hours.
In rank order  
George : 4/21/2019 2:09 pm : link
Devin White
Ed Oliver
Montez Sweat
Hands down  
Devour the Day : 4/21/2019 2:09 pm : link
Wilkins. Best fit.
Probably  
AcidTest : 4/21/2019 2:10 pm : link
Oliver, but I'm fine with Wilkins.
Pretty easy call for Oliver IMO  
j_rud : 4/21/2019 2:11 pm : link
Wouldn't be unhappy with Sweat either.

That's a tough spot. With those guys off the board you can make the case that Hockensen is the best player available. It would be largely panned and it's not a flashy move, but if you don't love one of the QBs the argument can be made. Thursday is going to be interested. I've never been this conflicted/undecided about what I even want them to do let alone what they're gonna do.
Oliver,  
Giantsfanincuse : 4/21/2019 2:12 pm : link
But that’s a great list to choose from.
Wilkins  
GothamGiants : 4/21/2019 2:13 pm : link
does a lot of what Oliver can do at bigger size - checks every locker room / off field box as well

(I’m aware Oliver is more “athletic”)
Assuming his medicals check out, I'd take Sweat.  
Klaatu : 4/21/2019 2:14 pm : link
If they don't, probably Wilkins.
Oliver vs Wilkins is interesting  
BSIMatt : 4/21/2019 2:15 pm : link
Wilkins seems like cleaner player, Oliver is exciting player though, seems to come with more risk. Would be interested to see what Giants would do if Oliver made it to 6.
Sweat.....as ling as heart checks out.  
George from PA : 4/21/2019 2:16 pm : link
A beast with plenty of upside.

All the others seem fine.

A little down on white....seems to be caught in wrong direction of plays
Personally I like Sweat  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/21/2019 2:17 pm : link
he is a true edge rusher
Whoever they like better  
David B. : 4/21/2019 2:19 pm : link
Between Burns, Ferrell, Sweat, Wilkens -- or even an OT.

Whoever THEY think is the best pass rusher for their system. Or fix the ORT if the values are similar.
Defense  
Vegas Steve : 4/21/2019 2:22 pm : link
Lawrence Bush or maybe Burn
I agree on assuming if the medicals check out.  
DonnieD89 : 4/21/2019 2:22 pm : link
You go with Sweat. My next choice would be Christian Wilkins. He wouldf be utilized for positions in Bettcher’s scheme.
Oliver  
jayg5 : 4/21/2019 2:25 pm : link
..
I've liked Wilkins for a while  
kelsto811 : 4/21/2019 2:29 pm : link
To me he's a top 5 defensive talent in this draft. I'm not great at judging scheme fit however so I'm not sure how he'd work here.
Honestly, I have no idea  
adamg : 4/21/2019 2:30 pm : link
in that case, defense might not be BPA.
Sweat  
Ben in Tampa : 4/21/2019 2:30 pm : link
We need a havoc maker off the edge
I like Bush  
montanagiant : 4/21/2019 2:32 pm : link
Better then White so I would go with him or Oliver
Wilkins  
Phil in LA : 4/21/2019 2:32 pm : link
Sweat would be off my board, if I were the Giants.
I like  
Phil in LA : 4/21/2019 2:33 pm : link
Bush better than White, too.
White, Sweat  
since1925 : 4/21/2019 2:41 pm : link
White would improve the entire defense.

Sweat would improve our third down numbers.
This is why I'm not a GM  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/21/2019 2:41 pm : link
I would pick White. Our LB corps is so bad -- worse than our DL by far. We need a playmaker LB. Devin White. Sweat would not surprise me, nor would Oliver. White's less-than-perfect instincts will improve with experience.
Since I cannot take an OT,  
Bones : 4/21/2019 2:44 pm : link
Wilkins, then Oliver.
Wilkins  
Go Terps : 4/21/2019 2:44 pm : link
And that pick would determine how I approached 17 & 37. I'd target Lawrence and Winovich at those respective spots.

I want to come out of this draft feeling like I have a side of the LOS I can hang my hat on.
Wilkins and Ferrell  
ChicagoMarty : 4/21/2019 2:45 pm : link
might still be there at #17.

Doubt Bush will be there.

So you could take Bush who would bolster the D against both the run and pass manning the middle of the D then grab one of Wilkins, Ferrell or Lawrence at #17 and bolster the DL

Must take a cb by #37 which then means having to take an OT by #95 which would improve the D by bolstering the run game and therefore increase time of possession.

Take another corner at #108 and a ER at #133 and you just might have something
Wilkins over Oliver  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/21/2019 2:47 pm : link
Maybe Oliver’s ceiling is slightly higher burial take showing up vs Bama. And character wise it’s not close. Doesn’t mean Oliver won’t be a stud. Would be ok w Sweat or White too
Wilkins  
WillVAB : 4/21/2019 2:49 pm : link
He’s the safest of the bunch at 6 with comparable upside.

The rest are too boom or bust for my liking at 6.
In order  
giantstock : 4/21/2019 2:50 pm : link
1-- Oliver
2-- Sweat
3-- Wilkins
WIlkins is great  
MM_in_NYC : 4/21/2019 2:56 pm : link
but I'll take Oliver.
The Giants are going to stress character as priority #1 @6  
Giantz_comeback : 4/21/2019 3:00 pm : link
Getts aggressive culture make over is in full force. He said he wants a lead dog at all levels of the D. When asked who are the current lead dogs he mentioned Bethea and Ogletree. What level was left out? DL....

Q.Williams and Wilks are very likely at the very top of the list.

Q.Williams is gold jacket material, breaking through double teams at will. Wilks will be very good but a bit below that.
RE: I've liked Wilkins for a while  
GothamGiants : 4/21/2019 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14396413 kelsto811 said:
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To me he's a top 5 defensive talent in this draft. I'm not great at judging scheme fit however so I'm not sure how he'd work here.


Wilkins is perfect scheme fit

Disruptive at nose tackle, disruptive at DE, athletic enough to stand up and rush/set the edge

Basically he’s everything Bettcher would want in a DL
Wilkens  
pa_giant_fan : 4/21/2019 3:05 pm : link
You need to fix the line. I think Wilkens fits what the Giants are looling for.
But to be honest, i be happy with any of those players
Yeah.  
section125 : 4/21/2019 3:06 pm : link
Wilkins
Oliver
White

That order....
RE: The Giants are going to stress character as priority #1 @6  
DonnieD89 : 4/21/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14396463 Giantz_comeback said:
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Getts aggressive culture make over is in full force. He said he wants a lead dog at all levels of the D. When asked who are the current lead dogs he mentioned Bethea and Ogletree. What level was left out? DL....

Q.Williams and Wilks are very likely at the very top of the list.

Q.Williams is gold jacket material, breaking through double teams at will. Wilks will be very good but a bit below that.


I was listening to Dan Csonka from OURLADS, who was a guest on big blue kick off. I believe he said that Wilkins is a borderline gold jacket player, given his talent.
RE: RE: The Giants are going to stress character as priority #1 @6  
Giantz_comeback : 4/21/2019 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14396484 DonnieD89 said:
Quote:
In comment 14396463 Giantz_comeback said:


Quote:


Getts aggressive culture make over is in full force. He said he wants a lead dog at all levels of the D. When asked who are the current lead dogs he mentioned Bethea and Ogletree. What level was left out? DL....

Q.Williams and Wilks are very likely at the very top of the list.

Q.Williams is gold jacket material, breaking through double teams at will. Wilks will be very good but a bit below that.



I was listening to Dan Csonka from OURLADS, who was a guest on big blue kick off. I believe he said that Wilkins is a borderline gold jacket player, given his talent.


I dont see him wreaking the consistent havoc on the DL like Williams. And Bama doesnt quite have the talent on DL that Clemson does. More attention was paid to Williams yet he was absolutely dominant in every way regardless. AND he has rhe amazing character to boot.

This isn't to say Wilk wont be excellent but I dont quite see generational like I do with Q

But he is very much the pick I would expect out of DG at 6 if he is unsuccessful to trade up for Q.

Dexter is no where near the character guy Wilkins is.
Wilkins ...  
Bluesbreaker : 4/21/2019 4:02 pm : link
Then Oliver ....
Oliver...  
Torrag : 4/21/2019 4:08 pm : link
Sweat
Wilkins
Wilkins  
RAIN : 4/21/2019 4:19 pm : link
Isn’t the game changer I’d want at 6, maybe 17.

Oliver v White v Sweat.

At that point it would be fit.

I go Oliver (only if his interviews and coaches check the boxes of him being a team player). If his mentality isn’t a fit, I look at White in Bettcher’s scheme. If he doesn’t fit i go Sweat or trade down and load up on picks for this and next years draft.
Probably  
halfback20 : 4/21/2019 4:27 pm : link
Wilkins or Oliver.
Wilkins, White, or Sweat for me  
PatersonPlank : 4/21/2019 4:36 pm : link
.
Sure DG, who does his homework knows  
TMS : 4/21/2019 4:48 pm : link
everyone of those guys and how they will fit into our defense. Bettcher has seen all their films and talked to teammates, coaches and opponents about them all. How they work out in the locker room as well. Love this staff. Attention to detail.. We will not waste our 6th pick. IMO. Gotta believe.
With what Ranaan said about every player  
edavisiii : 4/21/2019 5:00 pm : link
who created a problem is gone and DG saying building a roster is more than collecting talent, I can't see them drafting Oliver.
RE: Wilkins  
Emlen'sGremlins : 4/21/2019 5:02 pm : link
In comment 14396421 Phil in LA said:
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Sweat would be off my board, if I were the Giants.


^^^^^
This.
None of the above  
oreojenkins : 4/21/2019 5:02 pm : link
Jerry Tillery
RE: I like  
Emlen'sGremlins : 4/21/2019 5:02 pm : link
In comment 14396422 Phil in LA said:
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Bush better than White, too.


^^^^
And this.
Wilkins and Bush  
ryanmkeane : 4/21/2019 5:15 pm : link
in the first round would be a coup
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