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We were also aware there were a number of other teams that liked him, teams like the Arizona Cardinals, the New York Giants, the New Orleans Saints, the Pittsburgh Steelers. There were teams that would try to make the move a year early to try to prepare their next starting QB.
"We're sitting there on the night of the draft, and there's communication going back and forth between teams and agents. It's not something you see, but we're on our phones talking with coaches and general managers. We were aware of certain teams that said they were trying to trade up. If Kansas City hadn't gone exactly where they went, he would have been gone. He would have been gone on the very next pick."
Dorsey had much the same sense. He identified the Cardinals, Giants and Saints as teams the Chiefs needed to maneuver in front of. The Saints picked 11th, the Cardinals 13th and the Giants 23rd.
"I know there were three teams that wanted this player very badly, and I got a text or two [afterward] asking, 'How'd you do that?’
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No they didn’t. Not really
MacAdoo was banging the table for Mahomes
Why?
The Bills moved up from 27th. We were 23rd.
First they obviously risk having someone grab the guy before he falls to them when they pick again.
Second, if you truly believe the guy will be your franchise QB for the next decade or more, then you take him with your first pick... period.
The league obviously did not think Mahomes was good enough to be selected towards the front of the draft. With 20-20 vision... he would potentially be selected with the first pick in the draft if we could run that draft over again.
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Had really absolutely no shot at getting Mahomes. So the cry babies here can just zip it now.as n
Why?
The Bills moved up from 27th. We were 23rd.
Exactly!
Looks like somebody is bad at math.
Survey says?!?
It was a great trade, in hindsight. But the road to the NFL is littered with trades that didn't turn out as expected.
Before he came there were rumors every year before the draft that turned out to be right. Seems as if there was a leaker in the Reese era. This could have kept the Giants from getting Mahomes
Survey says?!?
Mahomes is a special talent. Reid can't teach him to roll right and then throw back across his body forty yards on a dime with a laser. Reid can't teach him roll left, against his natural right arm, and throw the ball fifty yards sidearm like he's skipping rocks across a pond. Reid can't teach the kid to throw a no-look pass twenty yards down the field right on the numbers.
Yes, Reid helped. But Mahomes would have been great everywhere. It may have taken longer but that talent is too brilliant.
In other words, McAdoo and Mahomes would have figured it out.
And McAdoo wouldn't have been the problem. Eli would have been because ownership doesn't/wouldn't let him relinquish his spot as the starter. So the point is moot...
But, a LOT has to change for the Giants to join BM in giving up on Eli
It was as if Reese and Ross got drunk an hour before each draft
That being said, he was right about Mahomes. But even if we got Mahomes do you think we would have ever been that great of a team? I envision a scenario where BM remains coach and we are this mediocre team for years because of A.) a culture problem and B.) a GM and his clown pal Marc Ross fucking up the offensive line year after year after year.
Survey says?!?
If they do, they are nuts. The first thing McAdoo would have done is correct Mahomes' "fundamentals" and prevented him from becoming the quarterback he has become.
It wasn't long before they realized other teams were hot on his trail, but it sure seemed Reese didn't try hard to move up.
It wasn't long before they realized other teams were hot on his trail, but it sure seemed Reese didn't try hard to move up.
So does that mean Mahomes would have been selected over Engram?
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they thought he'd be there at #23.
It wasn't long before they realized other teams were hot on his trail, but it sure seemed Reese didn't try hard to move up.
So does that mean Mahomes would have been selected over Engram?
Absolutely, yes.
One year on the bench is likely. Was the plan to part ways with Eli before this past season?
At the time of the 2017 draft, the 2017 season had not yet unfolded, so MacAdoo probably had some good will inside Mara Central. That didn't last.