Possible Murray to Giants Rumor

In comment 14397578 jtgiants said:

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Going to happen. Enjoy your day

jt- This may be or not be draft related, but how and when do your sources believe the Giants will acquire Eli’s successor? Thanks.

I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.

In comment 14397618 EricJ said:

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In comment 14397596 MOOPS said: Quote: swap 3 and 6, plus give up 37 and 95? Nope, can't see it. Well.... IF Murray is the real deal and the potential to be the next Eli for another 15 years, then why wouldnt we make that trade? Do we need to revisit what we gave up for Eli?

IF?
First leg injury he becomes a smurf in a forest.

Is my most preferred option, even over Rosen

In comment 14397617 JonC said:

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In comment 14397616 EricJ said: Quote: In comment 14397570 JonC said: Quote: willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years. so you think the Jets care what the Giants are doing in the same stadium and as a result, would actually do something stupid on draft day so they dont have to "watch Saquon and a mobile QB" play for a non-divisional team? Typical fan... Yes, it's always been that way.

Last year, NYJ admitted they called CLE re #1 pick and IND re #3 pick, but never called NYG re the #2. It’s real.

I’m sure they are all connected, but how are we sure anyone knows what is going on?

Weren’t the scouts all sent home prior to this weekend? If Murray is available, who knows?

Only one who knows for sure is Dave Gettleman. Probably Mara. Maybe Shurmur.

Anything else is most likely speculation. I wouldn't trust any rumor/source on the internet this year.

In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said:

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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.

Better yet, is if no QB is picked and Eli kills it this year. DG than extends Eli at $35M/yr.

In comment 14397638 Diver_Down said:

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In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said: Quote: I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray. Better yet, is if no QB is picked and Eli kills it this year. DG than extends Eli at $35M/yr.

Eli kills it this year? hahahha like what are the chances of that? >1%

Folks are deluding themselves.

Murrayyyyy!

Make it happen Getty. Go for the homerun

In comment 14397617 JonC said:

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In comment 14397616 EricJ said: Quote: In comment 14397570 JonC said: Quote: willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years. so you think the Jets care what the Giants are doing in the same stadium and as a result, would actually do something stupid on draft day so they dont have to "watch Saquon and a mobile QB" play for a non-divisional team? Typical fan... Yes, it's always been that way.

And will always continue to be.

In comment 14397570 JonC said:

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willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.

Agreed. The price would also be astronomical in terms of picks. How would we fix the defense?

In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said:

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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.

I don't want Daniel Jones at all. He keeps getting compared to Ryan Tannehill....pass.

In comment 14397632 MojoEd said:

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In comment 14397617 JonC said: Quote: In comment 14397616 EricJ said: Quote: In comment 14397570 JonC said: Quote: willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years. so you think the Jets care what the Giants are doing in the same stadium and as a result, would actually do something stupid on draft day so they dont have to "watch Saquon and a mobile QB" play for a non-divisional team? Typical fan... Yes, it's always been that way. Last year, NYJ admitted they called CLE re #1 pick and IND re #3 pick, but never called NYG re the #2. It’s real.

That doesn't PROVE anything.

I remember reading early on before last year's draft that the Jets were convinced the Giants were NOT going to take a QB. So they had no reason to talk to the Giants after they couldn't reach a deal with Cleve. for the #1 overall.

The Jets obviously want to trade out of the #3 spot this year. If the Giants offer the best deal the Jets will do what's best for the Jets and make the trade.

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In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said:

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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.

One can only hope.

In comment 14397570 JonC said:

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willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.

Maybe the Jets 'feel' they owe the Giants one for passing on Darnold! (:

As the face of the franchise.

Those include the Cards passing on Murray. I believe this is part of the show the NFL wants - intrigue leading up to the draft. But I’ll believe the Cards passing on Murray when I see it. Until then, these rumors are par for the course in NFL Draft week.

As for the Giants, the asshats could be right or wrong on the picks. We’ll find out in about 79-80 hours. But to loosely quote Nas, “you can hate me [Hoping for Haskins] now, but I won’t stop [Hoping for Haskins] now”. And it won’t matter how many times people take a sledgehammer to a report of Murray or Haskins to the Giants.

Rivalry but it was at an all time high when Rex was there trash talking nonstop. That has died down completely since HC/GM changed so maybe there is potential for a deal to be made.

With draft picks this year and next and the pack money to continue to develop this team. They gave up a ton for ELI and could do it again. DG wants a legacy QB like Accorsi had. Would not count it out. Shurmur must has have visions of what kind of offense we could have. Going to be a long exciting night.

but they would need to walk away with Bosa, Williams, or Allen.

tired of all of the rumors and mock drafts.

"No Guts, No Glory"

In comment 14397578 jtgiants said:

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Going to happen. Enjoy your day

Have trading up from 6 been “explored” at all

I feel like Jets/Giants are nice partners, Jets want more picks and can still land Oliver/Burns at 6 ... if the price wasn’t too steal obviously

... is that there are so many draftable prospects on the Oklahoma offense. It's like hearing that a team has spent a lot of time watching tape of the Clemson defense, or the Mississippi receiving corps. It's a clue, sure, but who are they actually watching?

Four-fifths of the 2018 Sooner offensive line could probably make the NYG roster. Brown and possibly Anderson could play important roles at other positions. If the Giants have spent hours poring over every Oklahoma pass play, are they primarily watching Murray move around in the pocket, or is the focus on whether Cody Ford and Bobby Evans can handle speed rushers, without Murray's feet to keep defenders honest and bail the tackles out when they whiff? Are the scouts charting Murray's accuracy, or measuring Brown's catch radius? Are they determining whether Murray hangs tough against a blitz, or checking Anderson's pass-protection skills?

In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said:

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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.

Imagine the field day the football press would have! The reaction at BBI would be puny in comparison.

In comment 14397682 Big Blue Blogger said:

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... is that there are so many draftable prospects on the Oklahoma offense. It's like hearing that a team has spent a lot of time watching tape of the Clemson defense, or the Mississippi receiving corps. It's a clue, sure, but who are they actually watching? Four-fifths of the 2018 Sooner offensive line could probably make the NYG roster. Brown and possibly Anderson could play important roles at other positions. If the Giants have spent hours poring over every Oklahoma pass play, are they primarily watching Murray move around in the pocket, or is the focus on whether Cody Ford and Bobby Evans can handle speed rushers, without Murray's feet to keep defenders honest and bail the tackles out when they whiff? Are the scouts charting Murray's accuracy, or measuring Brown's catch radius? Are they determining whether Murray hangs tough against a blitz, or checking Anderson's pass-protection skills?

If Murray was over 6 feet tall, he’d be touted as the best QB to come out in years

He is a pocket passer first, with elite arm talent, who also happens to be capable of scrambling for a 50+ yard TD

He’s almost perfect ... almost

In comment 14397680 GothamGiants said:

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In comment 14397578 jtgiants said: Quote: Going to happen. Enjoy your day Have trading up from 6 been “explored” at all I feel like Jets/Giants are nice partners, Jets want more picks and can still land Oliver/Burns at 6 ... if the price wasn’t too steal obviously

Judging by the price they paid to move up last year - from 6 to 3 also - you’d have to guess they’d be asking for a lot. The fact that it would be the Giants looking to move up would only increase the price. I imagine it would take 6 and 17 to move up to 3, though maybe we could get other picks back in return as well.

Still, I think Murray goes 1, so this is all moot.

can he hit a curveball?

I would not want to trade up for an undersized QB that may not want to fully commit to Football. Let's take care of our defense.

In comment 14397616 EricJ said:

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In comment 14397570 JonC said: Quote: willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years. so you think the Jets care what the Giants are doing in the same stadium and as a result, would actually do something stupid on draft day so they dont have to "watch Saquon and a mobile QB" play for a non-divisional team? Typical fan...

I think the rivalry between the Jets and Giants at the management and ownership level is about who gets most attention on the back page, moreso than it is about performance on the field.

In comment 14397622 Philu916 said:

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But didn’t Arizona come out with a schedule release without Rosen meaning Murray is number 1?

It could be possible that they informed Rosen that all the Murray talk is just a smokescreen and asked him to play along.

I doubt it, but it is possible.

In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said:

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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.

It sure would be entertaining to watch.

In comment 14397876 Hades07 said:

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In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said: Quote: I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray. It sure would be entertaining to watch.

Entertaining isn't the description I'd use. Catastrophic might be more apropos.

In comment 14397665 KerrysFlask said:

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As the face of the franchise.

They need to get away from employing sentimentality for personnel decisions. I'm not saying they should seek out the next Lawrence Phillips or Vontaze Burflict but talent needs to be more important than the fact that a guy attended a Manning passing camp or has a good relationship with Eli. Seems like we're destined to use a premium draft pick to select a pedestrian QB talent for the wrong reasons.

In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said:

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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.

Dave Browns..they love

In comment 14397578 jtgiants said:

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Going to happen. Enjoy your day

Agree 100%. Have you seen Murray on camera? I don't think he can handle this market - even though he is a fantastic player, QB of this team needs to be able to handle the intense off the field pressure of the NY area market.

I would think 1st or 2nd next year plus 95 plus swapping 3 to 6. Then at 17 we trade back to get multiple picks in rounds 1 to 3

Fly up and down the draft boards... long after the last NCAA down has been played. Sure, the combine and pro days are informationally valuable. But shouldn't all this be tweaking time? Not moving a player from a 3rd rounder to a top 5... or a top 10 to off people's boards etc.

In comment 14397946 CardinalX said:

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Fly up and down the draft boards... long after the last NCAA down has been played. Sure, the combine and pro days are informationally valuable. But shouldn't all this be tweaking time? Not moving a player from a 3rd rounder to a top 5... or a top 10 to off people's boards etc.

I don't think they are actually moving, just that the sports reporting is catching up to the NFL thoughts on these players.

I feel sorry for the BBI hamster😢

In comment 14397946 CardinalX said:

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Fly up and down the draft boards... long after the last NCAA down has been played. Sure, the combine and pro days are informationally valuable. But shouldn't all this be tweaking time? Not moving a player from a 3rd rounder to a top 5... or a top 10 to off people's boards etc.

Maybe people that actually know what they are doing aren’t as scatter brained and frantic as the media trying to come up with clickbait 24/7?

(I think actual NFL boards have far less “risers” than the headlines suggest)

In comment 14398150 GothamGiants said:

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In comment 14397946 CardinalX said: Quote: Fly up and down the draft boards... long after the last NCAA down has been played. Sure, the combine and pro days are informationally valuable. But shouldn't all this be tweaking time? Not moving a player from a 3rd rounder to a top 5... or a top 10 to off people's boards etc. Maybe people that actually know what they are doing aren’t as scatter brained and frantic as the media trying to come up with clickbait 24/7? (I think actual NFL boards have far less “risers” than the headlines suggest)

Yep, this. Teams have their boards. It’s the leaks that drive these riser talks as teams attempt to manipulate each other.

Is just too tempting not to swing for the fences with. Top 3 running game with a talented passer and a revamped OL would make us dangerous to say the least.

Pass on every other QB. This Franchise has been safe for far too long.

In comment 14397633 Sean said:

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I’m sure they are all connected, but how are we sure anyone knows what is going on? Weren’t the scouts all sent home prior to this weekend? If Murray is available, who knows?

Thank you Sean

In comment 14397918 micky said:

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In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said: Quote: I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray. Dave Browns..they love

Jones is not remotely the same QB as Brown.....stupid.

In comment 14398419 joeinpa said:

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In comment 14397633 Sean said: Quote: I’m sure they are all connected, but how are we sure anyone knows what is going on? Weren’t the scouts all sent home prior to this weekend? If Murray is available, who knows? Thank you Sean

Uhhhhh.....no....that was Oakland. And no apparently not every team does this every year.

In comment 14397570 JonC said:

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willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.

I agree. The jets (both teams for that matter) are fully capable of thinking this way.

In comment 14397574 robbieballs2003 said:

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Yeah... the d is so needy for top tier talent but man do I want murray here... i say do it and then go hard after D here on out. Problem is we might not pick this high for a while and really the only true, “easy” way to land elite talent is via the high draft pick. Sure there are other ways, but it’s all about the draft.

Either way I’d be excited but the murray path is both risky and just insanely exciting or tantalizing.