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Possible Murray to Giants Rumor

Jon in NYC : 4/22/2019 12:45 pm
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Source: If the #AZCardinals pass on Kyler Murray, the #Giants could potentially move up in the #NFLDraft. Their trade partner? The #Jets.

Giants have 12 picks & would want to move ahead of the #Raiders to draft Murray. Jets want multiple picks.




Kind of a random one. Dyer is mostly a soccer guy, but he's a legitimate reporter. This could easily be coming from the Jets side of things, since I think he's more plugged in there.
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If the Giants do something crazy  
kelsto811 : 4/22/2019 12:47 pm : link
And get Murray, I'd argue they'd have picked the two highest profile players in the last 2 drafts..potentially the two best
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/22/2019 12:47 pm : link
I'd love for Murray to end up here.
I just don't see the Jets  
JonC : 4/22/2019 12:47 pm : link
willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.
This has been  
darren in pdx : 4/22/2019 12:47 pm : link
the most head-spinning draft I can recall in terms of reports being all over the place.
So, Murray and no defense  
robbieballs2003 : 4/22/2019 12:48 pm : link
?
Um....not  
jtgiants : 4/22/2019 12:49 pm : link
Going to happen. Enjoy your day
RE: I just don't see the Jets  
Matt in SGS : 4/22/2019 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14397570 JonC said:
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willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.


This. The Jets are a petty organization. They will ask for some price tag that is way out of bounds and the Giants will (rightly) pass. And they will end up trading that pick for less than the Giants would logically offer.

Honestly, if there is a deal to be had, I would think it will be with the Niners instead just to avoid all that.

But the Jets have all but screamed they want to trade down. I think they trade with the Falcons and Atlanta takes Oliver.
RE: Um....not  
kelsto811 : 4/22/2019 12:52 pm : link
In comment 14397578 jtgiants said:
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Going to happen. Enjoy your day


You may have discussed this, but giving your most educated guess, who do you see as the next Giant QB after Eli?

Thanks for the info you have been psssing on.
Cool.  
Dodge : 4/22/2019 12:59 pm : link
At this point jt can just be a mod and lock threads whenever an interesting rumor is floated.
And the cost would be what,  
MOOPS : 4/22/2019 1:00 pm : link
swap 3 and 6, plus give up 37 and 95?

Nope, can't see it.
RE: And the cost would be what,  
Dodge : 4/22/2019 1:03 pm : link
In comment 14397596 MOOPS said:
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swap 3 and 6, plus give up 37 and 95?

Nope, can't see it.


Our second probably and/or combo with next years picks.
Who is Dyer?  
ZogZerg : 4/22/2019 1:03 pm : link
LOL at this rumor.

We should keep tallies over all of these BS tweets and give an award to the person with the most incorrect tweets.
RE: Um....not  
Klaatu : 4/22/2019 1:04 pm : link
In comment 14397578 jtgiants said:
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Going to happen. Enjoy your day




Oh, well...
Highly doubt it of course  
SirYesSir : 4/22/2019 1:04 pm : link
but could you imagine the run-pass options with Murray and Saquan? I mean good lord
RE: Um....not  
crooza172 : 4/22/2019 1:04 pm : link
In comment 14397578 jtgiants said:
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Going to happen. Enjoy your day


Keep Calm and carry on.
Would Love to See The Giants Add Murray or Rosen...  
Jim in Tampa : 4/22/2019 1:05 pm : link
But a tweet suggesting that "the Giants could potentially..." means absolutely nothing.
RE: I just don't see the Jets  
EricJ : 4/22/2019 1:06 pm : link
In comment 14397570 JonC said:
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willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.


so you think the Jets care what the Giants are doing in the same stadium and as a result, would actually do something stupid on draft day so they dont have to "watch Saquon and a mobile QB" play for a non-divisional team?

Typical fan...
RE: RE: I just don't see the Jets  
JonC : 4/22/2019 1:06 pm : link
In comment 14397616 EricJ said:
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In comment 14397570 JonC said:


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willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.



so you think the Jets care what the Giants are doing in the same stadium and as a result, would actually do something stupid on draft day so they dont have to "watch Saquon and a mobile QB" play for a non-divisional team?

Typical fan...


Yes, it's always been that way.
RE: And the cost would be what,  
EricJ : 4/22/2019 1:07 pm : link
In comment 14397596 MOOPS said:
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swap 3 and 6, plus give up 37 and 95?

Nope, can't see it.


Well.... IF Murray is the real deal and the potential to be the next Eli for another 15 years, then why wouldnt we make that trade? Do we need to revisit what we gave up for Eli?
RE: RE: I just don't see the Jets  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/22/2019 1:08 pm : link
In comment 14397616 EricJ said:
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In comment 14397570 JonC said:


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willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.



so you think the Jets care what the Giants are doing in the same stadium and as a result, would actually do something stupid on draft day so they dont have to "watch Saquon and a mobile QB" play for a non-divisional team?

Typical fan...


Actually, yes. I do think they care.
Interesting  
Philu916 : 4/22/2019 1:08 pm : link
But didn’t Arizona come out with a schedule release without Rosen meaning Murray is number 1?
RE: Um....not  
RDJR : 4/22/2019 1:08 pm : link
In comment 14397578 jtgiants said:
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Going to happen. Enjoy your day


jt- This may be or not be draft related, but how and when do your sources believe the Giants will acquire Eli’s successor? Thanks.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2019 1:09 pm : link
I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.
RE: RE: And the cost would be what,  
MOOPS : 4/22/2019 1:10 pm : link
In comment 14397618 EricJ said:
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swap 3 and 6, plus give up 37 and 95?

Nope, can't see it.



Well.... IF Murray is the real deal and the potential to be the next Eli for another 15 years, then why wouldnt we make that trade? Do we need to revisit what we gave up for Eli?


IF?
First leg injury he becomes a smurf in a forest.
Murray at whatever cost  
twostepgiants : 4/22/2019 1:10 pm : link
Is my most preferred option, even over Rosen
RE: RE: RE: I just don't see the Jets  
MojoEd : 4/22/2019 1:11 pm : link
In comment 14397617 JonC said:
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In comment 14397570 JonC said:


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willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.



so you think the Jets care what the Giants are doing in the same stadium and as a result, would actually do something stupid on draft day so they dont have to "watch Saquon and a mobile QB" play for a non-divisional team?

Typical fan...



Yes, it's always been that way.

Last year, NYJ admitted they called CLE re #1 pick and IND re #3 pick, but never called NYG re the #2. It’s real.
No disrespect to any of the insiders..  
Sean : 4/22/2019 1:11 pm : link
I’m sure they are all connected, but how are we sure anyone knows what is going on?

Weren’t the scouts all sent home prior to this weekend? If Murray is available, who knows?
...  
Dodge : 4/22/2019 1:14 pm : link
Only one who knows for sure is Dave Gettleman. Probably Mara. Maybe Shurmur.

Anything else is most likely speculation. I wouldn't trust any rumor/source on the internet this year.
RE: ...  
Diver_Down : 4/22/2019 1:14 pm : link
In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said:
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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.


Better yet, is if no QB is picked and Eli kills it this year. DG than extends Eli at $35M/yr.
RE: RE: ...  
FranchiseQB : 4/22/2019 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14397638 Diver_Down said:
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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.



Better yet, is if no QB is picked and Eli kills it this year. DG than extends Eli at $35M/yr.


Eli kills it this year? hahahha like what are the chances of that? >1%

Folks are deluding themselves.
Spits coffee out  
muhajir : 4/22/2019 1:20 pm : link
Murrayyyyy!

Make it happen Getty. Go for the homerun
RE: RE: RE: I just don't see the Jets  
GFAN52 : 4/22/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14397617 JonC said:
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In comment 14397570 JonC said:


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willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.



so you think the Jets care what the Giants are doing in the same stadium and as a result, would actually do something stupid on draft day so they dont have to "watch Saquon and a mobile QB" play for a non-divisional team?

Typical fan...



Yes, it's always been that way.


And will always continue to be.
RE: I just don't see the Jets  
AcidTest : 4/22/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14397570 JonC said:
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willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.


Agreed. The price would also be astronomical in terms of picks. How would we fix the defense?
RE: ...  
nyjuggernaut2 : 4/22/2019 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said:
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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.


I don't want Daniel Jones at all. He keeps getting compared to Ryan Tannehill....pass.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I just don't see the Jets  
Jim in Tampa : 4/22/2019 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14397632 MojoEd said:
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In comment 14397616 EricJ said:


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willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.



so you think the Jets care what the Giants are doing in the same stadium and as a result, would actually do something stupid on draft day so they dont have to "watch Saquon and a mobile QB" play for a non-divisional team?

Typical fan...



Yes, it's always been that way.


Last year, NYJ admitted they called CLE re #1 pick and IND re #3 pick, but never called NYG re the #2. It’s real.

That doesn't PROVE anything.

I remember reading early on before last year's draft that the Jets were convinced the Giants were NOT going to take a QB. So they had no reason to talk to the Giants after they couldn't reach a deal with Cleve. for the #1 overall.

The Jets obviously want to trade out of the #3 spot this year. If the Giants offer the best deal the Jets will do what's best for the Jets and make the trade.
That would be a first  
JonC : 4/22/2019 1:25 pm : link
.
RE: ...  
Klaatu : 4/22/2019 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said:
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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.


One can only hope.
RE: I just don't see the Jets  
ColHowPepper : 4/22/2019 1:27 pm : link
In comment 14397570 JonC said:
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willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.
Maybe the Jets 'feel' they owe the Giants one for passing on Darnold! (:
I really don't see Gettleman wanting Murray  
KerrysFlask : 4/22/2019 1:32 pm : link
As the face of the franchise.
I continue not to believe most of the rumors out there  
Giants38 : 4/22/2019 1:34 pm : link
Those include the Cards passing on Murray. I believe this is part of the show the NFL wants - intrigue leading up to the draft. But I’ll believe the Cards passing on Murray when I see it. Until then, these rumors are par for the course in NFL Draft week.

As for the Giants, the asshats could be right or wrong on the picks. We’ll find out in about 79-80 hours. But to loosely quote Nas, “you can hate me [Hoping for Haskins] now, but I won’t stop [Hoping for Haskins] now”. And it won’t matter how many times people take a sledgehammer to a report of Murray or Haskins to the Giants.
There's definitely a  
muhajir : 4/22/2019 1:34 pm : link
Rivalry but it was at an all time high when Rex was there trash talking nonstop. That has died down completely since HC/GM changed so maybe there is potential for a deal to be made.
We have the ammunition to get him now.  
TMS : 4/22/2019 1:35 pm : link
With draft picks this year and next and the pack money to continue to develop this team. They gave up a ton for ELI and could do it again. DG wants a legacy QB like Accorsi had. Would not count it out. Shurmur must has have visions of what kind of offense we could have. Going to be a long exciting night.
I don't mind if they trade with the Jets  
Bill L : 4/22/2019 1:35 pm : link
but they would need to walk away with Bosa, Williams, or Allen.
Thursday night can't get here soon enough  
Steve in ATL : 4/22/2019 1:36 pm : link
tired of all of the rumors and mock drafts.
....  
BleedBlue : 4/22/2019 1:37 pm : link
"No Guts, No Glory"
RE: Um....not  
GothamGiants : 4/22/2019 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14397578 jtgiants said:
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Going to happen. Enjoy your day


Have trading up from 6 been “explored” at all

I feel like Jets/Giants are nice partners, Jets want more picks and can still land Oliver/Burns at 6 ... if the price wasn’t too steal obviously
I think one of the challenges in gauging interest in Kyler Murray...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/22/2019 1:41 pm : link
... is that there are so many draftable prospects on the Oklahoma offense. It's like hearing that a team has spent a lot of time watching tape of the Clemson defense, or the Mississippi receiving corps. It's a clue, sure, but who are they actually watching?

Four-fifths of the 2018 Sooner offensive line could probably make the NYG roster. Brown and possibly Anderson could play important roles at other positions. If the Giants have spent hours poring over every Oklahoma pass play, are they primarily watching Murray move around in the pocket, or is the focus on whether Cody Ford and Bobby Evans can handle speed rushers, without Murray's feet to keep defenders honest and bail the tackles out when they whiff? Are the scouts charting Murray's accuracy, or measuring Brown's catch radius? Are they determining whether Murray hangs tough against a blitz, or checking Anderson's pass-protection skills?
RE: ...  
BlueLou'sBack : 4/22/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said:
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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.


Imagine the field day the football press would have! The reaction at BBI would be puny in comparison.
RE: I think one of the challenges in gauging interest in Kyler Murray...  
GothamGiants : 4/22/2019 1:46 pm : link
In comment 14397682 Big Blue Blogger said:
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... is that there are so many draftable prospects on the Oklahoma offense. It's like hearing that a team has spent a lot of time watching tape of the Clemson defense, or the Mississippi receiving corps. It's a clue, sure, but who are they actually watching?

Four-fifths of the 2018 Sooner offensive line could probably make the NYG roster. Brown and possibly Anderson could play important roles at other positions. If the Giants have spent hours poring over every Oklahoma pass play, are they primarily watching Murray move around in the pocket, or is the focus on whether Cody Ford and Bobby Evans can handle speed rushers, without Murray's feet to keep defenders honest and bail the tackles out when they whiff? Are the scouts charting Murray's accuracy, or measuring Brown's catch radius? Are they determining whether Murray hangs tough against a blitz, or checking Anderson's pass-protection skills?


If Murray was over 6 feet tall, he’d be touted as the best QB to come out in years

He is a pocket passer first, with elite arm talent, who also happens to be capable of scrambling for a 50+ yard TD

He’s almost perfect ... almost
RE: RE: Um....not  
Giants38 : 4/22/2019 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14397680 GothamGiants said:
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In comment 14397578 jtgiants said:


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Going to happen. Enjoy your day



Have trading up from 6 been “explored” at all

I feel like Jets/Giants are nice partners, Jets want more picks and can still land Oliver/Burns at 6 ... if the price wasn’t too steal obviously


Judging by the price they paid to move up last year - from 6 to 3 also - you’d have to guess they’d be asking for a lot. The fact that it would be the Giants looking to move up would only increase the price. I imagine it would take 6 and 17 to move up to 3, though maybe we could get other picks back in return as well.

Still, I think Murray goes 1, so this is all moot.
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