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Possible Murray to Giants Rumor

Jon in NYC : 4/22/2019 12:45 pm
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Source: If the #AZCardinals pass on Kyler Murray, the #Giants could potentially move up in the #NFLDraft. Their trade partner? The #Jets.

Giants have 12 picks & would want to move ahead of the #Raiders to draft Murray. Jets want multiple picks.




Kind of a random one. Dyer is mostly a soccer guy, but he's a legitimate reporter. This could easily be coming from the Jets side of things, since I think he's more plugged in there.
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I think that the main quesiton about Murray going forward will be  
Bill L : 4/22/2019 1:49 pm : link
can he hit a curveball?
Frig that!  
DonnieD89 : 4/22/2019 3:28 pm : link
I would not want to trade up for an undersized QB that may not want to fully commit to Football. Let's take care of our defense.
RE: RE: I just don't see the Jets  
Hades07 : 4/22/2019 3:31 pm : link
In comment 14397616 EricJ said:
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In comment 14397570 JonC said:


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willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.



so you think the Jets care what the Giants are doing in the same stadium and as a result, would actually do something stupid on draft day so they dont have to "watch Saquon and a mobile QB" play for a non-divisional team?

Typical fan...
I think the rivalry between the Jets and Giants at the management and ownership level is about who gets most attention on the back page, moreso than it is about performance on the field.
RE: Interesting  
Hades07 : 4/22/2019 3:32 pm : link
In comment 14397622 Philu916 said:
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But didn’t Arizona come out with a schedule release without Rosen meaning Murray is number 1?
It could be possible that they informed Rosen that all the Murray talk is just a smokescreen and asked him to play along.

I doubt it, but it is possible.
RE: ...  
Hades07 : 4/22/2019 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said:
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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.
It sure would be entertaining to watch.
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Pep22 : 4/22/2019 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14397876 Hades07 said:
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In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said:


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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.

It sure would be entertaining to watch.


Entertaining isn't the description I'd use. Catastrophic might be more apropos.
RE: I really don't see Gettleman wanting Murray  
Pep22 : 4/22/2019 3:50 pm : link
In comment 14397665 KerrysFlask said:
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As the face of the franchise.


They need to get away from employing sentimentality for personnel decisions. I'm not saying they should seek out the next Lawrence Phillips or Vontaze Burflict but talent needs to be more important than the fact that a guy attended a Manning passing camp or has a good relationship with Eli. Seems like we're destined to use a premium draft pick to select a pedestrian QB talent for the wrong reasons.
RE: ...  
micky : 4/22/2019 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said:
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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.


Dave Browns..they love
RE: Um....not  
DavidinBMNY : 4/22/2019 4:18 pm : link
In comment 14397578 jtgiants said:
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Going to happen. Enjoy your day
Agree 100%. Have you seen Murray on camera? I don't think he can handle this market - even though he is a fantastic player, QB of this team needs to be able to handle the intense off the field pressure of the NY area market.
If we were to actually do a deal  
CGiants07 : 4/22/2019 4:18 pm : link
I would think 1st or 2nd next year plus 95 plus swapping 3 to 6. Then at 17 we trade back to get multiple picks in rounds 1 to 3
I love how all these players  
CardinalX : 4/22/2019 4:20 pm : link
Fly up and down the draft boards... long after the last NCAA down has been played. Sure, the combine and pro days are informationally valuable. But shouldn't all this be tweaking time? Not moving a player from a 3rd rounder to a top 5... or a top 10 to off people's boards etc.
RE: I love how all these players  
Hades07 : 4/22/2019 4:21 pm : link
In comment 14397946 CardinalX said:
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Fly up and down the draft boards... long after the last NCAA down has been played. Sure, the combine and pro days are informationally valuable. But shouldn't all this be tweaking time? Not moving a player from a 3rd rounder to a top 5... or a top 10 to off people's boards etc.
I don't think they are actually moving, just that the sports reporting is catching up to the NFL thoughts on these players.
If we picked Jones over Murray  
Dave on the UWS : 4/22/2019 5:13 pm : link
I feel sorry for the BBI hamster😢
RE: I love how all these players  
GothamGiants : 4/22/2019 6:35 pm : link
In comment 14397946 CardinalX said:
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Fly up and down the draft boards... long after the last NCAA down has been played. Sure, the combine and pro days are informationally valuable. But shouldn't all this be tweaking time? Not moving a player from a 3rd rounder to a top 5... or a top 10 to off people's boards etc.


Maybe people that actually know what they are doing aren’t as scatter brained and frantic as the media trying to come up with clickbait 24/7?

(I think actual NFL boards have far less “risers” than the headlines suggest)
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MM_in_NYC : 4/22/2019 6:56 pm : link
In comment 14398150 GothamGiants said:
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In comment 14397946 CardinalX said:


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Fly up and down the draft boards... long after the last NCAA down has been played. Sure, the combine and pro days are informationally valuable. But shouldn't all this be tweaking time? Not moving a player from a 3rd rounder to a top 5... or a top 10 to off people's boards etc.



Maybe people that actually know what they are doing aren’t as scatter brained and frantic as the media trying to come up with clickbait 24/7?

(I think actual NFL boards have far less “risers” than the headlines suggest)


Yep, this. Teams have their boards. It’s the leaks that drive these riser talks as teams attempt to manipulate each other.
Murray/Barkley  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 4/22/2019 8:03 pm : link
Is just too tempting not to swing for the fences with. Top 3 running game with a talented passer and a revamped OL would make us dangerous to say the least.

Pass on every other QB. This Franchise has been safe for far too long.
RE: No disrespect to any of the insiders..  
joeinpa : 4/22/2019 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14397633 Sean said:
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I’m sure they are all connected, but how are we sure anyone knows what is going on?

Weren’t the scouts all sent home prior to this weekend? If Murray is available, who knows?


Thank you Sean
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FrankieR : 4/22/2019 9:04 pm : link
In comment 14397918 micky said:
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In comment 14397626 Eric from BBI said:


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I said it once, I'll say it again... imagine the BBI meltdown if they drafted Jones over Murray.



Dave Browns..they love


Jones is not remotely the same QB as Brown.....stupid.
RE: RE: No disrespect to any of the insiders..  
FrankieR : 4/22/2019 9:05 pm : link
In comment 14398419 joeinpa said:
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In comment 14397633 Sean said:


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I’m sure they are all connected, but how are we sure anyone knows what is going on?

Weren’t the scouts all sent home prior to this weekend? If Murray is available, who knows?



Thank you Sean



Uhhhhh.....no....that was Oakland. And no apparently not every team does this every year.
RE: I just don't see the Jets  
djm : 4/22/2019 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14397570 JonC said:
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willfully handing that pick to the Giants, with the potential of watching Saquon and a mobile QB for the next ten years.


I agree. The jets (both teams for that matter) are fully capable of thinking this way.
RE: So, Murray and no defense  
djm : 4/22/2019 9:18 pm : link
In comment 14397574 robbieballs2003 said:
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Yeah... the d is so needy for top tier talent but man do I want murray here... i say do it and then go hard after D here on out. Problem is we might not pick this high for a while and really the only true, “easy” way to land elite talent is via the high draft pick. Sure there are other ways, but it’s all about the draft.

Either way I’d be excited but the murray path is both risky and just insanely exciting or tantalizing.
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