Over the past few weeks, there have been murmurs of multiple defensive & offensive players to the Giants. Everyone from Daniel Jones, to Drew Lock, to Q Williams to Rosen. Hell, there was even a "rumor" of Giants interest in Murray.
The glaring ommission in all this is absolutely no "chatter" anymore of Haskins to the Giants. The only rumors all pointing to a lack of interest by us.
Add into the mix, despite no rumors a two-day visit last week, and a late week media storm by the QB on ESPN, something just feels like we are going all in for him.
I'm not predicting a trade up for the young man, although it wouldn't surprise me. But I definitely think we still have him front and center on our QB board.
Very excited for this week. Would love to see a draft that lands either Rosen or Haskins, with some nice pass rush talent as well. I'd also like to see us flex our assets by consolidating 12 picks down to 6-7 real good ones.
I think if you like a guy big at #17, you have to get him at #6. But only if you really believe he is "the guy"
Riddick was on ESPN and thinks he's a star as well.
Could be a sign of what he's expecting.
Could be a sign of what he's expecting.
Yes, unless he's watching the draft with his family in NJ!
Could be a sign of what he's expecting.
Not attending, he decided to spend it with his family well before these draft rumors
Too many things lining up in my mind for a team that "doesn't have big interest in him at #6."
This isn’t the type of thing you chat about with the whole scouting department IMO.
This isn’t the type of thing you chat about with the whole scouting department IMO.
Sometime a thing is just a thing. We overthink everything.
If it was intentional quiet as misdirection, then it's organizational silence. That would be incompatible with it being only one or two people being in on the plan.
look on the bright side, it could be mid February right now. I'll take the 80 hours
I don’t know, but there is smoke.
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look on the bright side, it could be mid February right now. I'll take the 80 hours
Except, we’re no closer to knowing anything than we were back then..:)
Then we shouldn't draft any of them. The QB I want is the one the franchise would mortgage, lets say a one and three this year, and a one and five next year. Settling for a guy is not something I am okay with or think the Giants should even consider. It should be a QB at six or pass until next year.
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look on the bright side, it could be mid February right now. I'll take the 80 hours
Except, we’re no closer to knowing anything than we were back then..:)
For most of us, it's been our whole lives, but it doesn't stop us from talking.
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certainly not at #6.
Then we shouldn't draft any of them. The QB I want is the one the franchise would mortgage, lets say a one and three this year, and a one and five next year. Settling for a guy is not something I am okay with or think the Giants should even consider. It should be a QB at six or pass until next year.
On that we finally agree.
At #17, I think the Giants would take Jones, but he'll likely be gone by then. They might trade up slightly to get him.
I don't see them trading up for Haskins, but the interesting question is whether they would take him at #17 instead of trading down. That would of course depend on what they were offered, but Gettleman clearly wants another pick between #37 and #95. They could also take Grier at #37.
The idea that a player can "slide" a week before the draft with no new information is crazy. I can understand when it's something like the Tunsil video that leaked out on draft day. But Haskins' supposed slide isn't a slide. It's reporters getting information (either legit info or smokescreen) that Haskins isn't at the top of some boards.
Rather than contradict their previous reports and risk their own credibility, the reporters try to make it seem like a prospect is sliding. But the reality is, he's only sliding from where they previously had him, which is based on even less information than they have now.
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certainly not at #6.
Then we shouldn't draft any of them. The QB I want is the one the franchise would mortgage, lets say a one and three this year, and a one and five next year. Settling for a guy is not something I am okay with or think the Giants should even consider. It should be a QB at six or pass until next year.
+2.
He might as well be participating in offseason program.
last year was a unique draft, with the slam dunk presence of Saquon.
Jt and jonc- I know it must be frustrating to keep making the same comments, but please don’t stop commenting! I seek out threads you write and very much appreciate you.
I don't think the OP is just referring to the Giants and Haskins but the declining lack of chatter in general. I find it odd too.
I like the prospect so I'm biased.
that's fair.
I'm not sitting here pining over Haskins. As if we absolutely should go in that direction. I was simply noting when you add up all the murmurs out there, and tie them to specific players, both offense and defense, there is this very obvious gaping hole of nothing around Haskins lately. Which to me is odd since he just spent two days in house last week. Had lunch with Eli.
My sense, not my preference, is that something doesn't add up. That's all I'm saying. I'd be very happy going defense, defense with the first two picks.
He might as well be participating in offseason program.
It’s called due diligence. People would be crying if they didn’t dissect all these QBs ... go back and look at how much predraft work they did on Rosen
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That is not in play.
He might as well be participating in offseason program.
It’s called due diligence. People would be crying if they didn’t dissect all these QBs ... go back and look at how much predraft work they did on Rosen
Who knows, we might just end up with Barkley and Rosen
When that RB is potentially the next Marshall Faulk, and the QB is the next Matt Ryan ... sigh me up for the RB
Barkley was too good to pass up. Allen’s accuracy is an issue, Darnold is a turnover machine (in college), and Rosen fell to 10 and is on the trading block for myriad reasons.
The near flawless (on and off the field) RB who brings a skillset/athleticism rarely seen for any RB - let alone 1 that’s 230 pounds - was well worth the selection
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That is not in play.
He might as well be participating in offseason program.
It’s called due diligence. People would be crying if they didn’t dissect all these QBs ... go back and look at how much predraft work they did on Rosen
Who knows, we might just end up with Barkley and Rosen
I hope so ... 37 and conditional 2020 pick (playing time/stat based) is a no brainer.
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Not at all a slam dunk when you need a QB. There were are are many football people who don’t agree with taking RB over franchise QB.
When that RB is potentially the next Marshall Faulk, and the QB is the next Matt Ryan ... sigh me up for the RB
Barkley was too good to pass up. Allen’s accuracy is an issue, Darnold is a turnover machine (in college), and Rosen fell to 10 and is on the trading block for myriad reasons.
The near flawless (on and off the field) RB who brings a skillset/athleticism rarely seen for any RB - let alone 1 that’s 230 pounds - was well worth the selection
I think if you like a guy big at #17, you have to get him at #6. But only if you really believe he is "the guy"
I think you are making yourself believe what you want to believe.
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Not at all a slam dunk when you need a QB. There were are are many football people who don’t agree with taking RB over franchise QB.
When that RB is potentially the next Marshall Faulk, and the QB is the next Matt Ryan ... sigh me up for the RB
Barkley was too good to pass up. Allen’s accuracy is an issue, Darnold is a turnover machine (in college), and Rosen fell to 10 and is on the trading block for myriad reasons.
The near flawless (on and off the field) RB who brings a skillset/athleticism rarely seen for any RB - let alone 1 that’s 230 pounds - was well worth the selection
That's just your opinion. But not everyone agrees --some strongly. Hence, not at all a slam dunk.
I am far from the only person who views him as the best RB to come out in recent memory.
Barkley is the very definition of “slam dunk”.
i don't like haskins much, mainly based on the conditioning questions and that he's only one full season starting, but the dude did throw for 50 TDs last year. yes i know the team around him was all-world, but that's still impressive.
i don't like haskins much, mainly based on the conditioning questions and that he's only one full season starting, but the dude did throw for 50 TDs last year. yes i know the team around him was all-world, but that's still impressive.
I’d look good dumping it off to Paris Campbell too. His stats are irrelevant - played with at least 3 NFL WRs that did a whole lot of the work for him
Thanks, Peppers!
https://youtu.be/aBIUc-EM2nQ
https://youtu.be/DcMhkZiGDpA
This is the first draft I can think of in a while that it would be very hard to be disappointed with their first 3 picks. Unfortunately, that's due to a combination of a lot of holes to fill and the draft lining up nicely for need and BPA.
https://youtu.be/aBIUc-EM2nQ
https://youtu.be/DcMhkZiGDpA
Haha do you think Parris Campbell will be gone by our 2nd round pick?
what gives?
is it thursday yet? SMDH
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Look at these incredible throws:
https://youtu.be/aBIUc-EM2nQ
https://youtu.be/DcMhkZiGDpA
Haha do you think Parris Campbell will be gone by our 2nd round pick?
If he isn’t, he better be a Giant. Love Campbell
https://youtu.be/aBIUc-EM2nQ
https://youtu.be/DcMhkZiGDpA
People keep saying all he throws is crosses so I went to his highlights and found the complete opposite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVWNFFa3L-o
what gives?
Sometimes you have to Go Deep-er to confirm information.
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they have no interest in haskins at 6. we then hear from peppers there is a lot of support for haskins in the giants building and that he is talked about more than any other quarterback.
what gives?
Sometimes you have to Go Deep-er to confirm information.
I’m not gonna blow up spots, but isn’t it possible that Go Deep’s source doesn’t have the correct info either? Look, there’s no guarantees here. That’s especially true if DG is acting appropriately and keeping things close to the vest - and sharing the pick with only a select few. We’ll have to wait until Thursday to find out.
All I’m going to say is I was very happy with what I read in the thread that shall not be named ...
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Regarding QB? I haven't seen recent info and missed what shall not be named.
All I’m going to say is I was very happy with what I read in the thread that shall not be named ...
Yup. It was very revealing and detailed.
I think if you like a guy big at #17, you have to get him at #6. But only if you really believe he is "the guy"
I agree. If you have a 1st round grade on a QB, you take him ASAP. Otherwise you are making a wish that he'd be available later.
I gave you a huge hint. My stance on certain players is well documented .... again, I was very happy with the insider information that shall not be repeated
Very, very happy
I hope so ... then another stupid team panics and trades up to 5. And boom, Josh Allen welcome to the Giants
Darnold was the most popular, picked 1 or 2 by almost all.
Mayfield was picked 3 or 4, with only one picking him 1 and two, including the NFL Scouts Poll, having him at 6.
I don't know how much Gil has lost at age 86, but he sure sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
If the predictors are going to be wrong, which they will be mostly, I'd still rather hear it from Gil.
This, x 1000 ... although I’m down for Risner or Campbell/Butler @ WR depending on who’s available (i’d Love Ferguson or Dremont Jones in round 2)
So much talent in this draft, awful QB class, please don’t reach for a mediocre QB.
That said I'd guess we go DL at the pick. I prefer Oliver to the others in play because he's more athletic, explosive and versatile.