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The Silence Around Haskins is Deafening

BillyM : 4/22/2019 1:56 pm
Over the past few weeks, there have been murmurs of multiple defensive & offensive players to the Giants. Everyone from Daniel Jones, to Drew Lock, to Q Williams to Rosen. Hell, there was even a "rumor" of Giants interest in Murray.

The glaring ommission in all this is absolutely no "chatter" anymore of Haskins to the Giants. The only rumors all pointing to a lack of interest by us.

Add into the mix, despite no rumors a two-day visit last week, and a late week media storm by the QB on ESPN, something just feels like we are going all in for him.

I'm not predicting a trade up for the young man, although it wouldn't surprise me. But I definitely think we still have him front and center on our QB board.

Very excited for this week. Would love to see a draft that lands either Rosen or Haskins, with some nice pass rush talent as well. I'd also like to see us flex our assets by consolidating 12 picks down to 6-7 real good ones.
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Nope. It's quiet because  
NBGblue : 4/22/2019 1:58 pm : link
he's sliding. Maybe Cincy will take him. But he may be there at #17.
Here Come  
Giants38 : 4/22/2019 1:58 pm : link
At least two or three insider comments saying not happening.
He isn't sliding  
Amtoft : 4/22/2019 1:59 pm : link
as much as people think. He could go 4th over all to the Raiders.
I don't think he's in play at #6  
JonC : 4/22/2019 1:59 pm : link
but at #17 it could be another story, along with Jones imo.
Doesn't mean much in terms of us drafting Haskins but  
BIG FRED 1973 : 4/22/2019 2:01 pm : link
Albert Breer was on with Adam Schein before and Breer loves Haskins and people he has spoken too have compared his traits to Brady
I don't buy "not in play at #6"  
BillyM : 4/22/2019 2:01 pm : link
The fact remains, if we aren't drafting QB for need this year, we almost certainly will be next. And that may cost us big time assets to move up.

I think if you like a guy big at #17, you have to get him at #6. But only if you really believe he is "the guy"
RE: Doesn't mean much in terms of us drafting Haskins but  
BillyM : 4/22/2019 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14397722 BIG FRED 1973 said:
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Albert Breer was on with Adam Schein before and Breer loves Haskins and people he has spoken too have compared his traits to Brady


Riddick was on ESPN and thinks he's a star as well.
I think it's still a better investment  
Bill L : 4/22/2019 2:04 pm : link
to give up big assets next year for a product than take one of this year's products for free (not really free because you lose the ability to otherwise draft an impact defender).
Did Haskins  
pjcas18 : 4/22/2019 2:05 pm : link
decide not to attend the draft?

Could be a sign of what he's expecting.
BillyM  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2019 2:05 pm : link
I share your suspicions.
I personally don't believe in any of these QBs  
JonC : 4/22/2019 2:06 pm : link
certainly not at #6.
RE: Did Haskins  
BillyM : 4/22/2019 2:06 pm : link
In comment 14397730 pjcas18 said:
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decide not to attend the draft?

Could be a sign of what he's expecting.


Yes, unless he's watching the draft with his family in NJ!
RE: Did Haskins  
CromartiesKid21 : 4/22/2019 2:07 pm : link
In comment 14397730 pjcas18 said:
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decide not to attend the draft?

Could be a sign of what he's expecting.


Not attending, he decided to spend it with his family well before these draft rumors
Haskins on Twitter  
BillyM : 4/22/2019 2:07 pm : link
Just told Andrew Siciliano that "he had lunch with Eli last week when he was with the team."

Too many things lining up in my mind for a team that "doesn't have big interest in him at #6."
JonC might be able to confirm this  
Dave on the UWS : 4/22/2019 2:08 pm : link
but there was a “report” they took him off their board because they are concerned over his conditioning and body type- like the one that could eat himself out of the league. I guess that’s possible, but I have a hard time buying it. His conditioning looked “questionable” at the combine, but everyone but the GM showed up at his pro day which went well. So who knows.
If they are going this route  
Oscar : 4/22/2019 2:08 pm : link
And I think it’s a strong possibility, my suspicion is only a few people in the organization know. Gettleman, Mara(s), Shurmur maybe.

This isn’t the type of thing you chat about with the whole scouting department IMO.
Meaningless  
Big Blue '56 : 4/22/2019 2:09 pm : link
.
Dave  
JonC : 4/22/2019 2:10 pm : link
I cannot confirm.
RE: If they are going this route  
Bill L : 4/22/2019 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14397740 Oscar said:
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And I think it’s a strong possibility, my suspicion is only a few people in the organization know. Gettleman, Mara(s), Shurmur maybe.

This isn’t the type of thing you chat about with the whole scouting department IMO.

Sometime a thing is just a thing. We overthink everything.

If it was intentional quiet as misdirection, then it's organizational silence. That would be incompatible with it being only one or two people being in on the plan.
It's gonna be a long 80 hours  
jeff57 : 4/22/2019 2:15 pm : link
or so
RE: It's gonna be a long 80 hours  
BillyM : 4/22/2019 2:16 pm : link
In comment 14397753 jeff57 said:
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or so


look on the bright side, it could be mid February right now. I'll take the 80 hours
I’ve been thinking this as well..  
Sean : 4/22/2019 2:19 pm : link
Was also seen with a Giant shirt recently & we were gushing over him at his pro day.

I don’t know, but there is smoke.
RE: RE: It's gonna be a long 80 hours  
Big Blue '56 : 4/22/2019 2:20 pm : link
In comment 14397756 BillyM said:
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or so



look on the bright side, it could be mid February right now. I'll take the 80 hours


Except, we’re no closer to knowing anything than we were back then..:)
RE: I personally don't believe in any of these QBs  
crooza172 : 4/22/2019 2:21 pm : link
In comment 14397733 JonC said:
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certainly not at #6.


Then we shouldn't draft any of them. The QB I want is the one the franchise would mortgage, lets say a one and three this year, and a one and five next year. Settling for a guy is not something I am okay with or think the Giants should even consider. It should be a QB at six or pass until next year.
RE: RE: RE: It's gonna be a long 80 hours  
Bill L : 4/22/2019 2:21 pm : link
In comment 14397764 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 14397756 BillyM said:


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In comment 14397753 jeff57 said:


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or so



look on the bright side, it could be mid February right now. I'll take the 80 hours



Except, we’re no closer to knowing anything than we were back then..:)


For most of us, it's been our whole lives, but it doesn't stop us from talking.
RE: RE: I personally don't believe in any of these QBs  
JonC : 4/22/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14397766 crooza172 said:
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certainly not at #6.



Then we shouldn't draft any of them. The QB I want is the one the franchise would mortgage, lets say a one and three this year, and a one and five next year. Settling for a guy is not something I am okay with or think the Giants should even consider. It should be a QB at six or pass until next year.


On that we finally agree.
I  
AcidTest : 4/22/2019 2:28 pm : link
think the only two options at #6 are a defensive player or a trade down.

At #17, I think the Giants would take Jones, but he'll likely be gone by then. They might trade up slightly to get him.

I don't see them trading up for Haskins, but the interesting question is whether they would take him at #17 instead of trading down. That would of course depend on what they were offered, but Gettleman clearly wants another pick between #37 and #95. They could also take Grier at #37.
RE: Nope. It's quiet because  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/22/2019 2:28 pm : link
In comment 14397715 NBGblue said:
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he's sliding. Maybe Cincy will take him. But he may be there at #17.

The idea that a player can "slide" a week before the draft with no new information is crazy. I can understand when it's something like the Tunsil video that leaked out on draft day. But Haskins' supposed slide isn't a slide. It's reporters getting information (either legit info or smokescreen) that Haskins isn't at the top of some boards.

Rather than contradict their previous reports and risk their own credibility, the reporters try to make it seem like a prospect is sliding. But the reality is, he's only sliding from where they previously had him, which is based on even less information than they have now.
RE: RE: I personally don't believe in any of these QBs  
AcidTest : 4/22/2019 2:29 pm : link
In comment 14397766 crooza172 said:
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certainly not at #6.



Then we shouldn't draft any of them. The QB I want is the one the franchise would mortgage, lets say a one and three this year, and a one and five next year. Settling for a guy is not something I am okay with or think the Giants should even consider. It should be a QB at six or pass until next year.


+2.
They have put a ton of time into someone  
larryflower37 : 4/22/2019 2:30 pm : link
That is not in play.
He might as well be participating in offseason program.
RE: JonC might be able to confirm this  
BIG FRED 1973 : 4/22/2019 2:30 pm : link
In comment 14397738 Dave on the UWS said:
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but there was a “report” they took him off their board because they are concerned over his conditioning and body type- like the one that could eat himself out of the league. I guess that’s possible, but I have a hard time buying it. His conditioning looked “questionable” at the combine, but everyone but the GM showed up at his pro day which went well. So who knows.
i agree i dont buy it all all either,he is a good kid and seems like a hard worker and a Football nerd plus he will be in an NFL weight program .Its not like he is gonna play from day one if we draft him unless Eli gets hurt
not in play  
JonC : 4/22/2019 2:32 pm : link
I ask you re-read my comment, some of you are missing it.
I'm proud  
jtgiants : 4/22/2019 2:34 pm : link
Of myself for refraining commenting on this
Some were saying the same thing re QB last year  
UberAlias : 4/22/2019 2:34 pm : link
Then they went out and did what everyone expected. I haven’t seen this team operate that way very much. Most of the “rumors” that come out are speculation. They just sort of do their thing and ignore draft buzz thing. Until we are truly mislead, I’m not expecting any shockers. They’re going defense at 6 and then will check their board at 17.
Jonc  
jtgiants : 4/22/2019 2:35 pm : link
I agree. At 17, maybe, but not a 6. Damnit I commented after all
Please no on Haskins  
Go Terps : 4/22/2019 2:37 pm : link
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RE: Some were saying the same thing re QB last year  
BillyM : 4/22/2019 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14397794 UberAlias said:
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Then they went out and did what everyone expected. I haven’t seen this team operate that way very much. Most of the “rumors” that come out are speculation. They just sort of do their thing and ignore draft buzz thing. Until we are truly mislead, I’m not expecting any shockers. They’re going defense at 6 and then will check their board at 17.


last year was a unique draft, with the slam dunk presence of Saquon.
RE: Jonc  
Giantsfanincuse : 4/22/2019 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14397795 jtgiants said:
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I agree. At 17, maybe, but not a 6. Damnit I commented after all


Jt and jonc- I know it must be frustrating to keep making the same comments, but please don’t stop commenting! I seek out threads you write and very much appreciate you.
Maybe DG's last minute tweaks with the scouts at home  
JonC : 4/22/2019 2:39 pm : link
will finally deliver what you QB-thirsty bastards want.
RE: I'm proud  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2019 2:40 pm : link
In comment 14397792 jtgiants said:
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Of myself for refraining commenting on this


I don't think the OP is just referring to the Giants and Haskins but the declining lack of chatter in general. I find it odd too.

I like the prospect so I'm biased.
Billy  
UberAlias : 4/22/2019 2:40 pm : link
Not at all a slam dunk when you need a QB. There were are are many football people who don’t agree with taking RB over franchise QB.
RE: Maybe DG's last minute tweaks with the scouts at home  
UberAlias : 4/22/2019 2:42 pm : link
In comment 14397803 JonC said:
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will finally deliver what you QB-thirsty bastards want.
Have had exact same thoughts. But as I said in prior post, until I see it...
RE: Billy  
BillyM : 4/22/2019 2:47 pm : link
In comment 14397807 UberAlias said:
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Not at all a slam dunk when you need a QB. There were are are many football people who don’t agree with taking RB over franchise QB.


that's fair.
RE: Maybe DG's last minute tweaks with the scouts at home  
BillyM : 4/22/2019 2:51 pm : link
In comment 14397803 JonC said:
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will finally deliver what you QB-thirsty bastards want.


I'm not sitting here pining over Haskins. As if we absolutely should go in that direction. I was simply noting when you add up all the murmurs out there, and tie them to specific players, both offense and defense, there is this very obvious gaping hole of nothing around Haskins lately. Which to me is odd since he just spent two days in house last week. Had lunch with Eli.

My sense, not my preference, is that something doesn't add up. That's all I'm saying. I'd be very happy going defense, defense with the first two picks.
RE: They have put a ton of time into someone  
GothamGiants : 4/22/2019 2:52 pm : link
In comment 14397782 larryflower37 said:
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That is not in play.
He might as well be participating in offseason program.


It’s called due diligence. People would be crying if they didn’t dissect all these QBs ... go back and look at how much predraft work they did on Rosen
RE: RE: They have put a ton of time into someone  
BillyM : 4/22/2019 2:54 pm : link
In comment 14397822 GothamGiants said:
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That is not in play.
He might as well be participating in offseason program.



It’s called due diligence. People would be crying if they didn’t dissect all these QBs ... go back and look at how much predraft work they did on Rosen


Who knows, we might just end up with Barkley and Rosen
RE: Billy  
GothamGiants : 4/22/2019 2:55 pm : link
In comment 14397807 UberAlias said:
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Not at all a slam dunk when you need a QB. There were are are many football people who don’t agree with taking RB over franchise QB.


When that RB is potentially the next Marshall Faulk, and the QB is the next Matt Ryan ... sigh me up for the RB

Barkley was too good to pass up. Allen’s accuracy is an issue, Darnold is a turnover machine (in college), and Rosen fell to 10 and is on the trading block for myriad reasons.

The near flawless (on and off the field) RB who brings a skillset/athleticism rarely seen for any RB - let alone 1 that’s 230 pounds - was well worth the selection
RE: RE: RE: They have put a ton of time into someone  
GothamGiants : 4/22/2019 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14397824 BillyM said:
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That is not in play.
He might as well be participating in offseason program.



It’s called due diligence. People would be crying if they didn’t dissect all these QBs ... go back and look at how much predraft work they did on Rosen



Who knows, we might just end up with Barkley and Rosen


I hope so ... 37 and conditional 2020 pick (playing time/stat based) is a no brainer.
Lol  
Jay in Toronto : 4/22/2019 3:08 pm : link
The Haskins tweet post above was covered with an Ikea ad "Get more for less."
Jay - 😂 😂  
Dave on the UWS : 4/22/2019 3:14 pm : link
We need a few yucks this week!
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