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OBJ ranting on Twitter...

bigfrank612 : 4/22/2019 7:22 pm
Responding to a good amount of fans and “haters”...he said “ I gave them everything I had bruh bruh errr Sunday . Just put some respect on my name that’s all I’m sayin! I ain’t sayin nothin, n trust me I got a LOTTTTT of info that people don’t kno about so, so keep my name outcha mouth the way I do yalls ! Ya diggg“

Constantly talking about how happy he is where he landed (is he tho?) and acting as if he’s gonna take the high road, yet continues with his passive aggressive remarks. Listen, I still wanted #13 here, and hated that we gave him up, but this is something I do not miss. Wondering when he’s gonna be all in his feelings and trying to figure out his hidden messages. Good Luck OBJ.
...  
GothamGiants : 4/22/2019 7:23 pm : link
hasnt been healthy in 3 years, among the league leaders in drops, and played like shit in his only playoff games

Good riddance.
*Only playoff GAME  
GothamGiants : 4/22/2019 7:24 pm : link
Singular. Oops.
Good riddence  
Stan in LA : 4/22/2019 7:24 pm : link
I prefer a 1st, a 3rd and Peppers all day.
.  
Ryan in Albany : 4/22/2019 7:26 pm : link
😴
RE: Good riddence  
GothamGiants : 4/22/2019 7:26 pm : link
In comment 14398216 Stan in LA said:
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I prefer a 1st, a 3rd and Peppers all day.


Not sure if serious ... but Peppers is going to surprise a lot of people

Love him in this scheme.
Can someone  
Ron Johnson : 4/22/2019 7:26 pm : link
Translate that?
Odell, you mad bro?  
Britt in VA : 4/22/2019 7:26 pm : link
?
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2019 7:26 pm : link
Someone who has his ear should tell him to stay off of social media. For his own sanity.
He is going to  
phil in arizona : 4/22/2019 7:30 pm : link
be so bored in Cleveland. Lots of time to tweet.
...  
GothamGiants : 4/22/2019 7:33 pm : link
Overrated cry baby that I’m so glad is gone

Look at this data. Efficiency and productivity are above average. Can’t stay healthy, can’t shut his mouth, among the league leaders in drops ... good riddance


Numbers don’t lie - ( New Window )
can you imagine  
santacruzom : 4/22/2019 7:35 pm : link
if Barkley takes up his mantle as brilliant-but-crazy liability?
Lol  
dep026 : 4/22/2019 7:35 pm : link
Odell being Odell.

Dude you got caught smoking crack with a prostitution while eating bad pizza. No one in NY gives a shit about you anymore.
Personally,  
Bill L : 4/22/2019 7:37 pm : link
I’d rather have him than not.
RE: can you imagine  
Default : 4/22/2019 7:40 pm : link
In comment 14398247 santacruzom said:
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if Barkley takes up his mantle as brilliant-but-crazy liability?


WTF
There is literally no evidence of Odell "smoking crack."
RE: RE: can you imagine  
Default : 4/22/2019 7:41 pm : link
In comment 14398256 Default said:
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In comment 14398247 santacruzom said:


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if Barkley takes up his mantle as brilliant-but-crazy liability?



WTF
There is literally no evidence of Odell "smoking crack."

Shit wrong quote...
RE: ...  
Eman11 : 4/22/2019 7:41 pm : link
In comment 14398222 Eric from BBI said:
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Someone who has his ear should tell him to stay off of social media. For his own sanity.


Agreed.

I wonder if he's referring to DG's remark about not having a culture problem here anymore? Because if he is, he must have a guilty conscious since DG never said his name, and did "keep OBJ's name outta his mouth".
He was very entertaining....  
George from PA : 4/22/2019 7:43 pm : link
Glad he was on the Giants and we got a more than fair trade.

But I am not going to knock him.
Can’t keep saying enough  
Sammo85 : 4/22/2019 7:44 pm : link
How glad I am he is off this team.
Adios....  
Giantsfanincuse : 4/22/2019 7:44 pm : link
I don’t miss this shit at all.
RE: Lol  
mattyblue : 4/22/2019 7:48 pm : link
In comment 14398248 dep026 said:
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Odell being Odell.

Dude you got caught smoking crack with a prostitution while eating bad pizza. No one in NY gives a shit about you anymore.


What are you talking about? Even if that video showed drugs it definitely did not show anyone smoking crack.
Great individual player with  
rebel yell : 4/22/2019 7:49 pm : link
spectacular skills...not a great team player. Glad he has moved on.
And why didn’t he play the  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 4/22/2019 7:50 pm : link
Last few weeks?
Incredible  
BP in Delray : 4/22/2019 7:51 pm : link
Thank god this clown is gone. Good riddance is right
Any of you ever been to Cleveland?  
arniefez : 4/22/2019 7:52 pm : link
Trust me NY or LA it is not. The Giants didn't send him there by accident.
RE: ...  
90.Cal : 4/22/2019 7:53 pm : link
In comment 14398222 Eric from BBI said:
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Someone who has his ear should tell him to stay off of social media. For his own sanity.


No one has his ear. His blonde hair is in the way. No seriously, who can tell a kid with a $90 million deal anything anyway... I could have sworn he said he was staying away from social media after the trade... guess that lasted a good half of a week LOL I wish him the best but he still needs to grow the hell up... he is on the AB/TO trajectory... great player but his legacy will take a hit due to his childishness, in the end.
He still can't believe he got traded  
Vanzetti : 4/22/2019 7:55 pm : link
all this stuff about being "happy" is such a defense mechanism

no way he prefers Cleveland to the Big Apple. Especially a guy who loves the limelight the way he does.
RE: Can someone  
jnoble : 4/22/2019 8:03 pm : link
In comment 14398220 Ron Johnson said:
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Translate that?

Excuse me young man, I speak jive...
RE: Personally,  
GothamGiants : 4/22/2019 8:04 pm : link
In comment 14398250 Bill L said:
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I’d rather have him than not.


They sucked with him, they can suck without him
an Illiterate multi millionaire  
Dave in PA : 4/22/2019 8:05 pm : link
(Mostly) only in America
i loved OBJ as a player  
markky : 4/22/2019 8:06 pm : link
a real freak athlete. hopefully he has a great career.

but i hated that he was the focus of the team and did nothing to keep the focus off of himself. he was a constant distraction.

and for all his talent, the one chance he had to be in the post season he screwed it with the boat trip. i know a lot of people disagree, but sports (like anything worth working for) requires complete focus and dedication. i don't buy that bullshit that it was a day off. you just don't do it.

he might NEVER be in the post season again. if he goes his whole career without a post season win, he really has no legacy.
To quote the famous philosopher  
McNally's_Nuts : 4/22/2019 8:08 pm : link
Ariana Grande:

“Thank u, next”
RE: RE: Lol  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/22/2019 8:09 pm : link
In comment 14398272 mattyblue said:
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Odell being Odell.

Dude you got caught smoking crack with a prostitution while eating bad pizza. No one in NY gives a shit about you anymore.



What are you talking about? Even if that video showed drugs it definitely did not show anyone smoking crack.


Is there a need to make shit up? Pro athlete does cocaine news at 11.
RE: And why didn’t he play the  
Stu11 : 4/22/2019 8:09 pm : link
In comment 14398281 Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) said:
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Last few weeks?

Honestly one of his best contributions as a Giant was not playing the last 2 games. We lost each game by a point. He plays we very well may have won them and been picking 12th or 13th Thursday night...
RE: ...  
Cool Down : 4/22/2019 8:10 pm : link
In comment 14398222 Eric from BBI said:
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Someone who has his ear should tell him to stay off of social media. For his own sanity.


What sanity
He wrote that???  
EricJ : 4/22/2019 8:11 pm : link
can someone translate that for me?

So glad I did not send my kids to LSU.
Crack, Cocaine, LSD, shrooms... who cares  
dep026 : 4/22/2019 8:13 pm : link
He’s an idiot. Giants better off without him.
Guaranteed  
Cool Down : 4/22/2019 8:15 pm : link
he's broke before he's 40.
RE: Crack, Cocaine, LSD, shrooms... who cares  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/22/2019 8:19 pm : link
In comment 14398319 dep026 said:
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He’s an idiot. Giants better off without him.


If you get rid of all the recreational drug users on an NFL team you'd have 10 players left. Only thing he did stupid was let film escape. Take one out of Jeters page and confiscate cell phones
At first I didn't like the trade...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/22/2019 8:21 pm : link
But I keep warming to it. Odell, while a helluva talent & not a bad dude, just brings & feeds drama.
I love these guys who think its up to...  
Crispino : 4/22/2019 8:25 pm : link
everyone else to understand them. The burden’s on us. Yeah, ok. I’m over it. Goodbye and ....well, just goodbye.
RE: ...  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/22/2019 8:27 pm : link
In comment 14398222 Eric from BBI said:
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Someone who has his ear should tell him to stay off of social media. For his own sanity.


He can’t. And they won’t. I don’t care how talented he may be, between injuries and immaturity I don’t think he reaches he heights he could.
He’s not a generational talent either IMO. Another phrase dumber down along w franchise QB. He’s already cracking up.
Really thought Odell was going to play  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 4/22/2019 8:30 pm : link
good soldier and keep his big trap shut to prove Gettleman wrong for trading him. I guess I was wrong.
Surprised that the exciting nightlife and all the media opportunities  
montanagiant : 4/22/2019 8:30 pm : link
In such a robust city like Cleveland is not getting all his attention
RE: RE: Crack, Cocaine, LSD, shrooms... who cares  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/22/2019 8:31 pm : link
In comment 14398327 Zeke's Alibi said:
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He’s an idiot. Giants better off without him.



If you get rid of all the recreational drug users on an NFL team you'd have 10 players left. Only thing he did stupid was let film escape. Take one out of Jeters page and confiscate cell phones


The issue is when does it pass from recreational to more? Does he strike you as a guy w a lot of self control? He’s no Jeter.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2019 8:32 pm : link
I don't think OBJ is a bad guy.

I think he is a product of his generation. He has everything, but still isn't happy.

An old fart like me would tell him, "Just shut up and play." But that shit doesn't even fly with my own son today.
RE: ...  
Ned In Atlanta : 4/22/2019 8:38 pm : link
In comment 14398354 Eric from BBI said:
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I don't think OBJ is a bad guy.

I think he is a product of his generation. He has everything, but still isn't happy.

An old fart like me would tell him, "Just shut up and play." But that shit doesn't even fly with my own son today.


Lazily painting millennials with a very broad brush. You see very few of these guys with odell's middle school antics. Saquon, julio, kamara, wilson, melvin gordon to name 5 right off the top of my head. Very few bring the constant attention seeking antics that odell does
When Odell came into the league  
Les in TO : 4/22/2019 8:39 pm : link
He was a terrific talent who played with passion and didn’t cause any waves off the field and no known attitude issues from LSU. It’s as though his fame after “the catch” corrupted him - started partying with the kardashians, getting into the Norman brawl, the boat trip, working out with Manziel. Not sure if it’s substances or ego or some combination but he went from being the next Jerry Rice to Doo Doo the Clown
TRAID HIMM!!!  
Go Terps : 4/22/2019 8:41 pm : link
Remember that hack bit? Don't see that anymore.
DG didn't say anything about OBJ. He didn't mention his name,  
yatqb : 4/22/2019 8:46 pm : link
or that of Vernon or Collins. The NFL guys extrapolated that meaning.
8-24  
joeinpa : 4/22/2019 8:49 pm : link
No trade should be lamented
RE: ...  
Giants_Rock : 4/22/2019 8:49 pm : link
In comment 14398214 GothamGiants said:
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hasnt been healthy in 3 years, among the league leaders in drops, and played like shit in his only playoff games

Good riddance.


BS! He's had over 1000 yards every year with the Giants except one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odell_Beckham_Jr.

And he definitely wasn't among the league leaders in drops

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?season=2018&week=100&category=RECEIVING&opp=0&sort=11&qualified=1&sortOrder=0&page=1

He didn't do much in the 2016 playoff game but one game is a pretty small sample size. Eli sucked in his first playoff game (113 yards and 35.0 QB rating) should we have gotten rid of him, lol.


...  
GothamGiants : 4/22/2019 8:50 pm : link
I’m sure he was more worried about the stupid dance he was gonna do afterwards ...

Enjoy Cleveland, or at least keep pretending to. He did this to himself.
... - ( New Window )
Ned  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2019 8:51 pm : link
But the guys you mention seem to more a rarity today. It's why I love Saquon. He just hands the ball to the official.

And yes, I'm a "get off my lawn" SOB.

It's hard to blame some of these guys. It's a brutal game. Their careers are short. They are lucky if they get a second contract. They are less willing to be used by corporate football teams.

But there is a sense of entitlement with these young guys. And again, I see it with my own children. My wife and I are left scratching our heads on some of this stuff.
RE: RE: RE: Crack, Cocaine, LSD, shrooms... who cares  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/22/2019 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14398352 LauderdaleMatty said:
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He’s an idiot. Giants better off without him.



If you get rid of all the recreational drug users on an NFL team you'd have 10 players left. Only thing he did stupid was let film escape. Take one out of Jeters page and confiscate cell phones



The issue is when does it pass from recreational to more? Does he strike you as a guy w a lot of self control? He’s no Jeter.


Guy just doesn't strike me as a junkie. You can knock Odell for a lot, but his work ethic and dedication to his craft are top notch.
RE: ...  
bceagle05 : 4/22/2019 8:57 pm : link
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I think he is a product of his generation. He has everything, but still isn't happy
James Dolan has everything and still isn't happy. Bill Parcells had everything and still wasn't happy. A slew of political leaders - including some you admire - have everything and are still aren't happy. Must millennials be blamed for everything? People of all ages display these traits.

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Milton : 4/22/2019 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14398354 Eric from BBI said:
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I don't think OBJ is a bad guy.

I think he is a product of his generation. He has everything, but still isn't happy.
I agree with half of what you say. He isn't a bad guy. He is not Antonio Brown or Tyreek Hill in that sense. But he does have issues (emotional? psychological? whatever) that go beyond your typical "product of his generation" in my opinion.
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GothamGiants : 4/22/2019 8:59 pm : link
In comment 14398413 Giants_Rock said:
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hasnt been healthy in 3 years, among the league leaders in drops, and played like shit in his only playoff games

Good riddance.



BS! He's had over 1000 yards every year with the Giants except one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odell_Beckham_Jr.

And he definitely wasn't among the league leaders in drops

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?season=2018&week=100&category=RECEIVING&opp=0&sort=11&qualified=1&sortOrder=0&page=1

He didn't do much in the 2016 playoff game but one game is a pretty small sample size. Eli sucked in his first playoff game (113 yards and 35.0 QB rating) should we have gotten rid of him, lol.



1000 yards is not an accomplishment with the number of targets he gets.
He was 18th in receiving yards last year.
Healthy seasons: 1/5
Drops aren’t an issue? Click below
Eli’s not some attention whore who didn’t step up in his biggest games.

Oops - ( New Window )
Odell is the X Girl  
Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 4/22/2019 9:02 pm : link
Who was in the wrong but still cant believe she got dumped.

He'll likely blame everyone else, but the locker room really knows if he was hurt the last 4 games/ IV stuff was BS.

Was a fan but glad the high school drama is gone.
bceagles  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2019 9:06 pm : link
Oh my guys are VERY happy. ;)
He'll be playing on the west coast....  
MOOPS : 4/22/2019 9:12 pm : link
two years tops.
.  
Danny Kanell : 4/22/2019 9:18 pm : link
Good fucking riddance.
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Les in TO : 4/22/2019 9:19 pm : link
In comment 14398431 Milton said:
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In comment 14398354 Eric from BBI said:


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I don't think OBJ is a bad guy.

I think he is a product of his generation. He has everything, but still isn't happy.


I agree with half of what you say. He isn't a bad guy. He is not Antonio Brown or Tyreek Hill in that sense. But he does have issues (emotional? psychological? whatever) that go beyond your typical "product of his generation" in my opinion.
yup. Barkley Hernandez Carter etc are all is in his generation yet display none of his drama. With Odell celebrity and fame and maybe the bright lights of NYCgot to his head. Before the Catch he was just a phenom who didn’t make any headlines or stir up the pot.
RE: RE: Can someone  
eric2425ny : 4/22/2019 9:24 pm : link
In comment 14398299 jnoble said:
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In comment 14398220 Ron Johnson said:


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Translate that?


Excuse me young man, I speak jive...


Ha ha

A lot of  
ajr2456 : 4/22/2019 9:37 pm : link
Coded speak being posted in this thread
Consistency is not the strong point of the heavy posters here.  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 4/22/2019 9:38 pm : link
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Had a lot of disagreement, here ...  
Manny in CA : 4/22/2019 9:42 pm : link

When I mentioned him as the latest "Ruth" type, then there was Shockey and now OBJ.

Every generation has it's share of the self consumed. Jim Brown exemplified that with the Browns .....

Hell raising A-hole. Not even coach Paul Brown could talk to him directly. When he needed to communicate to Jim about team discipline , he would pick out somebody else to yell at - to get the message to Jim
Good god... I know the world is full of children  
CardinalX : 4/22/2019 9:43 pm : link
But since when did that group extend to 20 somethings thru 60 somethings???

If you don't fuel the drama... it's over before you know it
Sounds like too much  
allstarjim : 4/22/2019 9:50 pm : link
Cognac or something. People drunk twittering or other such posting. I'm guilty of this. It's immature, sure.
Eric it isn't entitlement...its the fact that people care so much  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/22/2019 9:50 pm : link
about their image now. I'm 32 and I remember being cool generally came from not giving a fuck. That script has been flipped and it is all about the image you portray. It leads to a lot of deep seated unhappiness. Look at what is happening to Danny Amendola right now. Guy is a self admitted private persons, dates an insta model for a while, and is about to have a full fledged melt down.
Eric: I'm sure you get your kids feeling entitled  
idinkido : 4/22/2019 10:01 pm : link
is also influenced by peer pressure. The difference between Beckham and your kids is that your kids are still kids and not professional athletes. I think basically your kids see other kids getting or doing certain things and then expect it from you. Your kids just don't have the perspective of an adult yet who earns a living and has to foot the bills. Once Beckham got the contract he wanted, he should have lived up to it. His behavior on the field and on the sideline sometimes upstaged his teammates and certainly didn't help "team culture."
OBJ now says he's cancer  
Des51 : 4/22/2019 10:44 pm : link
only on a team that is ok with losing. This statement can be found over at PFT. If someone could link it for me that would be nice.
RE: OBJ now says he's cancer  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2019 11:01 pm : link
In comment 14398602 Des51 said:
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only on a team that is ok with losing. This statement can be found over at PFT. If someone could link it for me that would be nice.


It's interesting to note that OBJ automatically assumes Gettleman is talking about him.
RE: Eric: I'm sure you get your kids feeling entitled  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2019 11:02 pm : link
In comment 14398542 idinkido said:
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is also influenced by peer pressure. The difference between Beckham and your kids is that your kids are still kids and not professional athletes. I think basically your kids see other kids getting or doing certain things and then expect it from you. Your kids just don't have the perspective of an adult yet who earns a living and has to foot the bills. Once Beckham got the contract he wanted, he should have lived up to it. His behavior on the field and on the sideline sometimes upstaged his teammates and certainly didn't help "team culture."


I hope you're right, because it's a daily battle with my teens (ages 13-15) about having some humility.
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ghost718 : 4/22/2019 11:03 pm : link
RE: RE: RE: RE: Crack, Cocaine, LSD, shrooms... who cares  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/22/2019 11:07 pm : link
In comment 14398429 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 14398327 Zeke's Alibi said:


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In comment 14398319 dep026 said:


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He’s an idiot. Giants better off without him.



If you get rid of all the recreational drug users on an NFL team you'd have 10 players left. Only thing he did stupid was let film escape. Take one out of Jeters page and confiscate cell phones



The issue is when does it pass from recreational to more? Does he strike you as a guy w a lot of self control? He’s no Jeter.



Guy just doesn't strike me as a junkie. You can knock Odell for a lot, but his work ethic and dedication to his craft are top notch.


Didn’t say he was a junkie. I Asked if he seems like he has a lot of self
Control. Which can lead to issues. And since bailed on the last 3 games I can question his dedication easily. I also don’t think he’s jerk or a total slacker. Nor does he seem like a bad dude. Just think he’s a guy whose career can go either way at this point.

I think he’s dedicated to his brand first. Which again is fine. But if that’s the case it can effect his play as Well IMO
RE: RE: OBJ now says he's cancer  
eric2425ny : 4/22/2019 11:10 pm : link
In comment 14398615 Eric from BBI said:
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only on a team that is ok with losing. This statement can be found over at PFT. If someone could link it for me that would be nice.



It's interesting to note that OBJ automatically assumes Gettleman is talking about him.


Exactly, this could be about Apple, Snacks, Collins, Vernon, Flowers, or a combination.

I am still bummed to some extent that we won’t have OBJ’s playmaking ability out there anymore, but I won’t miss the rest. I like what Gettleman is doing, bringing in team first guys. Saquon appears to be the ultimate team player, add to that a guy like Tate who has always been a team first guy.
all the people blaming millennial culture and attitude  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/22/2019 11:11 pm : link
should perhaps look at the generation that raised them. They all must be shitty parents.
RE: all the people blaming millennial culture and attitude  
eric2425ny : 4/22/2019 11:15 pm : link
In comment 14398625 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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should perhaps look at the generation that raised them. They all must be shitty parents.


I think you are seeing the bad aspect of social media in cases like this. The timing of the emergence of social media happens to go hand in hand with the millennial generation, but I think you would have seen the same crap from players a decade or even multiple decades ago if they had a device in their hands.
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japanhead : 4/22/2019 11:17 pm : link
In comment 14398430 bceagle05 said:
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I think he is a product of his generation. He has everything, but still isn't happy

James Dolan has everything and still isn't happy. Bill Parcells had everything and still wasn't happy. A slew of political leaders - including some you admire - have everything and are still aren't happy. Must millennials be blamed for everything? People of all ages display these traits.


eric has cranky old man syndrome. every generation bitches about how awful the next one is. it always happens, but old people convince themselves they're objectively correct that their kids are "worse." i remember hearing old people like my parents bitch about gen-xers, the horrible TV generation LMAO.

the millennial generation is arguably more fucked than any prior since the depression-era "greatest." advanced resource depletion, stagnant wages, crushing loan debt, deficit spending ad infinitum, active shooter drills, spiraling artificial intelligence and social media, partisan hackery and ideologues louder than ever, suicide and drug overdoses climbing, having less sex than ever, the general decline of american empire. they were born in a garbage cultural moment, i kinda feel for em.
RE: all the people blaming millennial culture and attitude  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2019 11:18 pm : link
In comment 14398625 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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should perhaps look at the generation that raised them. They all must be shitty parents.


As a parent, this crosses my mind regularly. But I consider myself sterner than even my parents, who were very liberal and generous with me. I don't discount it, but it feels like there are other influences at work.
japanhead  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2019 11:19 pm : link
I don't think OBJ suffers from many of the burdens you list.

If anything, he seems "privileged."
RE: RE: Eric: I'm sure you get your kids feeling entitled  
Rover : 4/22/2019 11:20 pm : link
In comment 14398616 Eric from BBI said:
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is also influenced by peer pressure. The difference between Beckham and your kids is that your kids are still kids and not professional athletes. I think basically your kids see other kids getting or doing certain things and then expect it from you. Your kids just don't have the perspective of an adult yet who earns a living and has to foot the bills. Once Beckham got the contract he wanted, he should have lived up to it. His behavior on the field and on the sideline sometimes upstaged his teammates and certainly didn't help "team culture."



I hope you're right, because it's a daily battle with my teens (ages 13-15) about having some humility.
Can you see a little bit of how hard it was being my parent, trying to set a good example, trying to set boundaries, but your teenager not listening (big grin).

When I get down about not having any kids yet I just think of that and multiply it by 100x with twitter and the other new platforms. That gives me humility.
was talking about millennials more generally  
japanhead : 4/22/2019 11:24 pm : link
he definitely suffers from the narcissism associated with social media addiction, and ever since his meltdown v. norman in the carolina game i realized he's probably got some mental issues which at the very least makes it so he has trouble channelling his "passion" in non-toxic ways.
japanhead  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/22/2019 11:24 pm : link
one could say it's all because of the entitled attitudes of the older generations.

Entitled to not give a fuck about the economy or environment their children would inherit. Entitled to grope women and treat them like shit. Entitled to beat their wives. Entitled to move to suburbs that kept out minorities. Entitled to have separate bathrooms and drinking fountains. Entitled to not have to work with Jews.

Concerns over "entitlement" go both ways.
RE: japanhead  
japanhead : 4/22/2019 11:29 pm : link
In comment 14398639 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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one could say it's all because of the entitled attitudes of the older generations.

Entitled to not give a fuck about the economy or environment their children would inherit. Entitled to grope women and treat them like shit. Entitled to beat their wives. Entitled to move to suburbs that kept out minorities. Entitled to have separate bathrooms and drinking fountains. Entitled to not have to work with Jews.

Concerns over "entitlement" go both ways.


yea, i'm not somuch concerned about millennial entitlement, not sure if that's what you were getting at. middle and upper middle class teens (and teens in general) will often act like entitled dicks and i don't think that was really any different in my generation (X) than it is now.
RE: RE: japanhead  
eric2425ny : 4/22/2019 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14398645 japanhead said:
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In comment 14398639 PaulBlakeTSU said:


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one could say it's all because of the entitled attitudes of the older generations.

Entitled to not give a fuck about the economy or environment their children would inherit. Entitled to grope women and treat them like shit. Entitled to beat their wives. Entitled to move to suburbs that kept out minorities. Entitled to have separate bathrooms and drinking fountains. Entitled to not have to work with Jews.

Concerns over "entitlement" go both ways.



yea, i'm not somuch concerned about millennial entitlement, not sure if that's what you were getting at. middle and upper middle class teens (and teens in general) will often act like entitled dicks and i don't think that was really any different in my generation (X) than it is now.


Yes japanhead I agree. I am also a gen x’er. I think the difference is the social media platform to bitch about everting that exists now. We didn’t have that at a young age. The thoughts were probably the same, but the platform didn’t exist.
japanhead  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/22/2019 11:31 pm : link
I agreed with your earlier comment. I was merely adding onto it with my own personal thoughts.

The "next" generation is always looked at as entitled and lazy by the previous generations. Human nature, I guess.
japanhead  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2019 11:33 pm : link
And just to be clear, I fully understand the never-ending older generation versus younger generation dynamic. I joke about this with my mom, dad, wife, kids, in-laws, etc. all of the time.

When I was young, my parents were poor. But I grew up "privileged" as my family improved their lot in life. As a teen, I didn't want for anything. But we - and I mean a collective we as in my generation - knew there were lines that shouldn't be crossed. If for anything, simply out of respect. That seems to be eroding. Perhaps some think this is good. As a product of my generation, I don't think it is.
He  
Toth029 : 4/23/2019 3:08 am : link
Says money doesn't buy happiness.

So why did you sign the mega deal, doofus? And why do you want more guaranteed money in Cleveland?
RE: ...  
ron mexico : 4/23/2019 3:16 am : link
In comment 14398354 Eric from BBI said:
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I don't think OBJ is a bad guy.

I think he is a product of his generation. He has everything, but still isn't happy.

An old fart like me would tell him, "Just shut up and play." But that shit doesn't even fly with my own son today.


How come no one is telling gettleman to shut up and manage?
RE: RE: OBJ now says he's cancer  
ron mexico : 4/23/2019 3:20 am : link
In comment 14398615 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14398602 Des51 said:


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only on a team that is ok with losing. This statement can be found over at PFT. If someone could link it for me that would be nice.



It's interesting to note that OBJ automatically assumes Gettleman is talking about him.


On the flip side, aren't you assuming obj is talking about gettleman? I don't see any names named.
And getts did reference obj directly  
ron mexico : 4/23/2019 3:27 am : link
He was asked (paraphrasing) what if obj goes on to have a great year/career and the Giants only get marginally better.

Getts smirked and said, that's not going to happen.
Beckham taking shots at the Giants and arguing  
dep026 : 4/23/2019 3:28 am : link
With fans on Twitter....

Yeah I think missing him will be a negative. By far and away the hardest athlete to ever root for on my favorite team. Hope the Giants never honor him with anything. But I’m still sure there will be fans cheering and supporting him...
Players reacts to gm  
hitdog42 : 4/23/2019 6:15 am : link
Taking subtle shots.
Shocking- shocking

Fan base takes shots at player after he leaves (and after he got hurt 2 years in a row on plays having nothing to do with his “ability to stay healthy”- shocking

Fan base to claim “I told you so” when bad team naturally becomes better because the only direction is up (and they drafted well) shocking

Fan base worships championship players of past who are legit scum bags and bad people- but obsessed over player who is social media obsessed hurting zero people. Shocking

I guess, I blinked and am now, the older generation  
George from PA : 4/23/2019 6:19 am : link
entitlment goes in many ways....the problem is was it created or percieved. But?

I love the...went to suburbs and kept minorities out????

Where do people get that kind of thinking?


1st, I am a minority who lives in the suburbs. Prior to having children, I lived in manhatten....but wanted my kids to grow up slower then I.....so i moved out.

My kids know they must create their entitlments...not to just expect them, as life is unfair. My daugther is a nurse at night in an intensive care unit....goes to school as well to up her degree

Yes, some have an easier lives...some harder....not due to privilage but circumstance....we have to work harder as I am a 1st generation immigrate...

I have some entitlments, but all were created by me...none given


In the words of many  
Tuckrule : 4/23/2019 6:33 am : link
There are people who love football and people who love what football gives them. Odell is the latter. He chooses fame and personal achievements over team success. He’s basically said so himself. He’s aiming for a gold jacket not a ring
A me first player  
dep026 : 4/23/2019 6:33 am : link
Doing me first things.


Shocking.
Gettleman WAS talking about OBJ among others  
TD : 4/23/2019 6:35 am : link
OBJ responded. Just because Gettleman used veiled language doen’t make it less about the individuals he got rid of.

Both need to do less talking and more putting up this year.

PS. The “millennial” thing is tired. Older generations have always been insufferable with their yelling at clouds. At least with the Greatest Generation and some that preceded it, they left the younger generations better off than they were. Can’t say the same about the Boomers and jury is out on the Xers.

Reporter: Is there a culture problem on the Giants?  
RobCrossRiver56 : 4/23/2019 6:43 am : link

Gettleman: Not anymore..
RE: Players reacts to gm  
Chris684 : 4/23/2019 7:11 am : link
In comment 14398748 hitdog42 said:
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Taking subtle shots.
Shocking- shocking

Fan base takes shots at player after he leaves (and after he got hurt 2 years in a row on plays having nothing to do with his “ability to stay healthy”- shocking

Fan base to claim “I told you so” when bad team naturally becomes better because the only direction is up (and they drafted well) shocking

Fan base worships championship players of past who are legit scum bags and bad people- but obsessed over player who is social media obsessed hurting zero people. Shocking


This is what you call going down with the ship.
RE: Reporter: Is there a culture problem on the Giants?  
Zepp : 4/23/2019 7:13 am : link
In comment 14398763 RobCrossRiver56 said:
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Gettleman: Not anymore..


BUUURRRN!!!

But we all know OBJ is easily set off and this is just an example.
God, social media is going to be the death  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/23/2019 7:24 am : link
of civilization.
RE: I guess, I blinked and am now, the older generation  
eric2425ny : 4/23/2019 7:25 am : link
In comment 14398750 George from PA said:
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entitlment goes in many ways....the problem is was it created or percieved. But?

I love the...went to suburbs and kept minorities out????

Where do people get that kind of thinking?


1st, I am a minority who lives in the suburbs. Prior to having children, I lived in manhatten....but wanted my kids to grow up slower then I.....so i moved out.

My kids know they must create their entitlments...not to just expect them, as life is unfair. My daugther is a nurse at night in an intensive care unit....goes to school as well to up her degree

Yes, some have an easier lives...some harder....not due to privilage but circumstance....we have to work harder as I am a 1st generation immigrate...

I have some entitlments, but all were created by me...none given



Thanks for sharing George. Good to hear your perspective on this.
Gettleman  
ajr2456 : 4/23/2019 7:37 am : link
Also could have said no comment and not have taken the subliminal shots he did.

Why is only one side of this not allowed to talk?
RE: I guess, I blinked and am now, the older generation  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/23/2019 7:39 am : link
In comment 14398750 George from PA said:
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entitlment goes in many ways....the problem is was it created or percieved. But?

I love the...went to suburbs and kept minorities out????

Where do people get that kind of thinking?


1st, I am a minority who lives in the suburbs. Prior to having children, I lived in manhatten....but wanted my kids to grow up slower then I.....so i moved out.

My kids know they must create their entitlments...not to just expect them, as life is unfair. My daugther is a nurse at night in an intensive care unit....goes to school as well to up her degree

Yes, some have an easier lives...some harder....not due to privilage but circumstance....we have to work harder as I am a 1st generation immigrate...

I have some entitlments, but all were created by me...none given



I was referring to the redlining practices that went on for decades in the US which denied homeownership opportunities (among other things) to minorities creating real estate segregation.
RE: Gettleman  
dep026 : 4/23/2019 7:40 am : link
In comment 14398789 ajr2456 said:
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Also could have said no comment and not have taken the subliminal shots he did.

Why is only one side of this not allowed to talk?


Did Gettleman rip his own players and coaches with a famous rapper next to him? Looks like Beckham can certainly dish it but certainly not take it.
RE: RE: Gettleman  
ajr2456 : 4/23/2019 7:42 am : link
In comment 14398792 dep026 said:
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In comment 14398789 ajr2456 said:


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Also could have said no comment and not have taken the subliminal shots he did.

Why is only one side of this not allowed to talk?



Did Gettleman rip his own players and coaches with a famous rapper next to him? Looks like Beckham can certainly dish it but certainly not take it.


If your former boss was taking shots at you on LinkedIn would you not defend yourself.

Both sides are wrong here.
Actually no  
dep026 : 4/23/2019 7:43 am : link
I wouldn’t. I am not 12 years old.
RE: Actually no  
eric2425ny : 4/23/2019 7:45 am : link
In comment 14398797 dep026 said:
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I wouldn’t. I am not 12 years old.


Yup, take the high road.
Is this ex-Giant worth over 5100 (and counting)  
Big Blue '56 : 4/23/2019 7:45 am : link
views?
RE: Is this ex-Giant worth over 5100 (and counting)  
ajr2456 : 4/23/2019 7:48 am : link
In comment 14398800 Big Blue '56 said:
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views?


There was a thread about who he was dating the other day, so people still seem obsessed
RE: RE: Is this ex-Giant worth over 5100 (and counting)  
Big Blue '56 : 4/23/2019 7:50 am : link
In comment 14398804 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 14398800 Big Blue '56 said:


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views?



There was a thread about who he was dating the other day, so people still seem obsessed


No doubt.
PaulBlakeTCU  
George from PA : 4/23/2019 8:00 am : link
I do not want to make this a political discussion. But redlining has nothing to do with keeping minorities out of the suburbs.

It had to do with banks and financial institutions not lending monies for areas/properties that carried too much risk. Sure that lead to some discrimination.

One can also say, they might have be saving someone from themselves.

Here is what I tell my kids.....

if you are looking for discrimination, you can always find it. If you do not let anything stop you, nothing will.

there is a certain comedy  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/23/2019 8:00 am : link
about grown men telling a professional athlete to just shut up and play as they obsess over his daily life.

It reminds me of the ratings scene from Private Parts

Quote:
Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes a day. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes.
Kenny: How could this be?
Researcher: Answer most commonly given: "I want to see what he'll say next."
Kenny: : All right, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?
Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day.
Kenny: : But... if they hate him, why do they listen?
Researcher: Most common answer: "I want to see what he'll say next."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G6xu-J_Dmc - ( New Window )
I scanned a little of the posts being discussed  
mfsd : 4/23/2019 8:15 am : link
A couple things people were posting to him were pretty vicious, and I honestly think he was trying to take the high road, in his own way.

Yeah, he’d be better off not engaging, but the OP and narrative that this represents OBJ ranting isn’t quite accurate - he’s defending himself, and I didn’t see him putting down anyone in response.

He’s a weird guy, no doubt, but I honestly don’t think he’s a bad guy, as others have said. Being emotional, insecure, and seeking attention then being uncomfortable when he gets it make for these kind of awkward situations...but the NFL has had far worse than OBJ amongst its ranks.

As for the trade, I’m fine with it bc we need to rebuild, but I don’t necessarily think DG’s comments were about OBJ directly as much as the collection of guys he shipped out.
RE: A me first player  
Rong5611 : 4/23/2019 8:16 am : link
Bingo.

Time to move on, for us and for him.

I wish him well. He has amazing talent, a joy to watch.


In comment 14398756 dep026 said:
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Doing me first things.


Shocking.
RE: Is this ex-Giant worth over 5100 (and counting)  
ZogZerg : 4/23/2019 8:17 am : link
In comment 14398800 Big Blue '56 said:
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views?


Of course it is. I saw an over turned dump truck on the Beltway yesterday, everybody was looking at that.....
I have a crazy idea.  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/23/2019 10:06 am : link
It might be possible that Odell, like a lot of people his age, acts like an idiot on social, but is still a player you want on your football team.

Lol at the "good riddance" crowd. I don't even mind that he's gone for larger, cultural reasons. The locker room needed new leadership and a new identity. A purging of the guard that was in place. But that sentiment has absolutely nothing to do with what the kid is tweeting.
If Beckham is such a cancer and distraction  
Metnut : 4/23/2019 10:20 am : link
then surely the Giants will be back in playoff contention this upcoming season with him gone and Cleveland will disappoint since they'll be unable to focus on anything having such a distracting "me first" player around their locker room messing everything up.

Looking forward to seeing Gettlemen proved to be a genius this upcoming year. Seriously, it would be hilarious. I'm not buying it, but would love to see it. Sick of Giants football seasons over before Halloween.
RE: If Beckham is such a cancer and distraction  
GothamGiants : 4/23/2019 10:25 am : link
In comment 14399225 Metnut said:
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then surely the Giants will be back in playoff contention this upcoming season with him gone and Cleveland will disappoint since they'll be unable to focus on anything having such a distracting "me first" player around their locker room messing everything up.

Looking forward to seeing Gettlemen proved to be a genius this upcoming year. Seriously, it would be hilarious. I'm not buying it, but would love to see it. Sick of Giants football seasons over before Halloween.


Nothing would be sweeter than nailing this draft again with 2-3 top prospects on defense, getting back to running the ball at will, and getting into the playoffs at 9-7 for 1 more Eli playoff run.

Gimme Wilkins, Bush/Burns, Risner top 3 and this team can win those games they blew last year
Many kids now grow up with a lot at their disposal  
JonC : 4/23/2019 10:36 am : link
We had what we needed growing up and nothing more in the 70s/80s. It seems to no longer be the case for the majority of children out there.

But, I think they're facing a challenge of growing up in a much more difficult world than I did. Social media, 24x7 news, the massive focus on image, and the insane amount of money made by celebrities all create different types of pressure and stress.
Can’t have it both ways  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/23/2019 10:48 am : link
OBJ wants to be a brand. Wants millions of “followers” but doesn’t want any of the consequences of living in that world.

He may be an insane athlete but all this shows he’s a big whiny bitch. He had it all. Put the phone down and grow up.
OBJ lives in a world of much different consequences  
JonC : 4/23/2019 10:50 am : link
than you or me, such is the blessing and curse of a huge guaranteed contract. There are few consequences that can really impact his perspective.
RE: Many kids now grow up with a lot at their disposal  
Britt in VA : 4/23/2019 10:54 am : link
In comment 14399259 JonC said:
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We had what we needed growing up and nothing more in the 70s/80s. It seems to no longer be the case for the majority of children out there.

But, I think they're facing a challenge of growing up in a much more difficult world than I did. Social media, 24x7 news, the massive focus on image, and the insane amount of money made by celebrities all create different types of pressure and stress.


It's interesting. If you didn't live before the internet and social media, you just can't really understand, truly understand, what it's like to live without those things.

They are not just two different ballparks, they are different galaxies. I feel both fortunate and cursed that I lived in a time where I grew up completely devoid of the internet and everything that came with it. It is impossible for anybody born after, including my kids, to ever understand what that was like.

A turningpoint in human history. It has rewired the way the human brain develops. For better or worse, TBD I guess....
RE: Can’t have it both ways  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/23/2019 11:00 am : link
In comment 14399288 LauderdaleMatty said:
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OBJ wants to be a brand. Wants millions of “followers” but doesn’t want any of the consequences of living in that world.

He may be an insane athlete but all this shows he’s a big whiny bitch. He had it all. Put the phone down and grow up.


That I can agree with. This is where the proliferation of safe spaces really comes from. People want to live in this fishbowl and can't handle any the negatives that come with it, some people may disagree with what you are putting out there. I'm in my early 30s and this insecurity seems to run rampant among those younger than me and even some in my age group.
Your OBJ, why the fuck do you care what people have to say about you. One of the most exciting players in the NFL worth 100 million. If that is me, I'm smiling all day and saying people are entitled to their opinion. I think that is why most of us still love LT, even with his failures as a human being. People that have rock solid security in themselves tend to be more likeable than those that come off like Odell here.
the book iGen  
Moondawg : 4/23/2019 11:01 am : link
is helpful.
Link - ( New Window )
Parenting, education, social awareness, job creation  
JonC : 4/23/2019 11:01 am : link
all evolving on the fly in a much more expensive world to live in.
If some of you guys that are millennials.....  
Britt in VA : 4/23/2019 11:02 am : link
wonder why it seems the previous generation(s) are "hating" on you, you just have to understand it's not so much you as the culture of social media and all of the perceived notions that come with it.

You can't help it, you were born into it. That's just my take on it.
Britt I grew up with internet and it was tremendous for my development  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/23/2019 11:05 am : link
The issue is social media and how it has magnified the issues young people face, validation and the ability to fit in. It has completely changed value systems. I said it before, but I remember when being cool was about not giving a fuck. Now it is all about how carefully you can craft your image, which in all reality isn't who you are creating massive unhappiness. It's the old keeping up with the Joneses, but to the extremes.
RE: Britt I grew up with internet and it was tremendous for my development  
Britt in VA : 4/23/2019 11:09 am : link
In comment 14399338 Zeke's Alibi said:
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The issue is social media and how it has magnified the issues young people face, validation and the ability to fit in. It has completely changed value systems. I said it before, but I remember when being cool was about not giving a fuck. Now it is all about how carefully you can craft your image, which in all reality isn't who you are creating massive unhappiness. It's the old keeping up with the Joneses, but to the extremes.


More often than not, the image isn't reality, either. It's just how you want to be perceived.

It's like some people I know. I know the reality of their lives, but if you were to look at their social media feeds, you'd think they were living the life of luxury with no worries, super well adjusted kids and marriages, and not a care in the world. Daily life is not like that.

Social media isn't real life.
I'd say social media is more like an avatar than real life.  
Britt in VA : 4/23/2019 11:10 am : link
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RE: If some of you guys that are millennials.....  
ron mexico : 4/23/2019 11:12 am : link
In comment 14399333 Britt in VA said:
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wonder why it seems the previous generation(s) are "hating" on you, you just have to understand it's not so much you as the culture of social media and all of the perceived notions that come with it.

You can't help it, you were born into it. That's just my take on it.


I can understand it. Millenials are getting blamed for everything when they are just reacting to the world, culture and parenting style provided for them.

No one ever caveats their snark towards millenials

I just read all the tweets  
dep026 : 4/23/2019 11:18 am : link
just wow. Glad he is gone. Like I said before. Hardest Giants I ever had to root for.

The hate that Tiki got for his comments should be multiplied by 100 with this crap. If they ever put his name in the ROH, that would be messed up.
I like Millenials  
Go Terps : 4/23/2019 11:32 am : link
Baby Boomers, on the other hand...my job as a city planner is almost entirely devoted to trying to rectify the massive fuckups made by the Baby Boomers. You want to talk about a lack of foresight and perspective? Millenials have got nothing on Baby Boomers on that score.
Britt-  
Sean : 4/23/2019 11:34 am : link
What is your definition of a millennial? I’m just curious because ppl tend to constantly think 16-22 year olds are millennials. Most millennials are married with kids. Hell, Eli is on the fringe of being a millennial.
I admittedly use that term loosely.  
Britt in VA : 4/23/2019 11:37 am : link
I know their generation is defined as beginning in the mid-80's.

But I personally would define them as the first generation that either came of age, or were brought up, during the rise of the internet.
Whenever I see an "OBJ Rant" thread  
Maximus, Esq. : 4/23/2019 11:37 am : link
I always think of Judge Smails in Caddyshack when Rodney Dangerfield pretends to break his arm

"Oh what has this buffoon done now?"
Specifically,  
Britt in VA : 4/23/2019 11:38 am : link
not knowing a world without it (internet).
RE: Specifically,  
figgy2989 : 4/23/2019 11:41 am : link
In comment 14399421 Britt in VA said:
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not knowing a world without it (internet).


I was born in 81, so depending on what site you see out there, I am the beginning of the millennial generation. Even if you were born a few years after.

I get what you are saying though, the other end of the generation (mid 90's), never know what life was without internet.
You get the feeling  
GiantJake : 4/23/2019 11:41 am : link
that OBJ is going to have a hard time in Cleveland. I can see him flying to LA or Miami or NY constantly because "the mistake by the lake" does not provide the excitement, luxury and spotlight he craves.
RE: RE: Specifically,  
Britt in VA : 4/23/2019 11:42 am : link
In comment 14399433 figgy2989 said:
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In comment 14399421 Britt in VA said:


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not knowing a world without it (internet).



I was born in 81, so depending on what site you see out there, I am the beginning of the millennial generation. Even if you were born a few years after.

I get what you are saying though, the other end of the generation (mid 90's), never know what life was without internet.


Yeah, I was born in 76. Graduated HS in 94. Internet wasn't a thing, but by the end of college it was. It happened fast.
GiantJake  
arniefez : 4/23/2019 11:46 am : link
I've said this a few times already and I'll keep saying it as he implodes in Cleveland. The Giants didn't send him to Cleveland by accident. Gettleman made 2 calls. One to Cleveland one to Buffalo. Well done.
Odell is  
BBelle21 : 4/23/2019 11:53 am : link
exhausting
He is the ex girlfriend you dump  
GothamGiants : 4/23/2019 11:55 am : link
and then she goes crazy with the “I never liked you anyway” BS

So glad Odell has chosen the Tiki route vs the Stratham route, enjoy Cleveland you overrated little punk
the guy got hurt and missed most of 2017  
hitdog42 : 4/23/2019 12:00 pm : link
which BTW was the season that the franchise literally imploded. from coaching, to management... everywhere. he was NOT playing during this period of implosion. uninvolved... team and coaching just sucking along becoming a national embarrassment during Geno gate. But somehow... mysteriously... now that he is gone.... its just a massive good riddance from people.

its one thing to say (which i agree with to some extent)-- the giants needed to go in a different direction and as constructed it wasnt working... another to say they got good value if one believes that, and the locker room needed shake up as he is a polarizing guy on a bad team... which is a bad combo.

its another to just start saying the good riddance as if the guy wasnt (ex barkley now) the only reason to turn on a giants game since he arrived. and the main reason offensively why the team even saw a playoff game... which he then totally botched
RE: the guy got hurt and missed most of 2017  
GothamGiants : 4/23/2019 12:04 pm : link
In comment 14399498 hitdog42 said:
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which BTW was the season that the franchise literally imploded. from coaching, to management... everywhere. he was NOT playing during this period of implosion. uninvolved... team and coaching just sucking along becoming a national embarrassment during Geno gate. But somehow... mysteriously... now that he is gone.... its just a massive good riddance from people.

its one thing to say (which i agree with to some extent)-- the giants needed to go in a different direction and as constructed it wasnt working... another to say they got good value if one believes that, and the locker room needed shake up as he is a polarizing guy on a bad team... which is a bad combo.

its another to just start saying the good riddance as if the guy wasnt (ex barkley now) the only reason to turn on a giants game since he arrived. and the main reason offensively why the team even saw a playoff game... which he then totally botched


Among the league leaders in drops since 2016, always hurt, never shuts up, childish antics, off field distractions, and was absolutely terrible in the biggest game of his career.

He was fun to watch, his highlights are fun too ... but good riddance. Barkley became the best player on the team as soon as he was drafted - and he’s actually likable on top of it.
RE: Odell is  
JonC : 4/23/2019 12:06 pm : link
In comment 14399471 BBelle21 said:
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exhausting


That's why he's gone.
RE: I like Millenials  
Thegratefulhead : 4/23/2019 12:08 pm : link
In comment 14399410 Go Terps said:
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Baby Boomers, on the other hand...my job as a city planner is almost entirely devoted to trying to rectify the massive fuckups made by the Baby Boomers. You want to talk about a lack of foresight and perspective? Millenials have got nothing on Baby Boomers on that score.
I like millenials too.
RE: Players reacts to gm  
BP in Delray : 4/23/2019 12:08 pm : link
In comment 14398748 hitdog42 said:
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Taking subtle shots.
Shocking- shocking

Fan base takes shots at player after he leaves (and after he got hurt 2 years in a row on plays having nothing to do with his “ability to stay healthy”- shocking

Fan base to claim “I told you so” when bad team naturally becomes better because the only direction is up (and they drafted well) shocking

Fan base worships championship players of past who are legit scum bags and bad people- but obsessed over player who is social media obsessed hurting zero people. Shocking


Apologist speak. That's the way it works- you win, you get praised. You don't, and you act like OB does, you get crushed. Rightfully so. TO act like he's not at fault in all of this is bs
RE: RE: the guy got hurt and missed most of 2017  
eric2425ny : 4/23/2019 12:09 pm : link
In comment 14399504 GothamGiants said:
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which BTW was the season that the franchise literally imploded. from coaching, to management... everywhere. he was NOT playing during this period of implosion. uninvolved... team and coaching just sucking along becoming a national embarrassment during Geno gate. But somehow... mysteriously... now that he is gone.... its just a massive good riddance from people.

its one thing to say (which i agree with to some extent)-- the giants needed to go in a different direction and as constructed it wasnt working... another to say they got good value if one believes that, and the locker room needed shake up as he is a polarizing guy on a bad team... which is a bad combo.

its another to just start saying the good riddance as if the guy wasnt (ex barkley now) the only reason to turn on a giants game since he arrived. and the main reason offensively why the team even saw a playoff game... which he then totally botched



Among the league leaders in drops since 2016, always hurt, never shuts up, childish antics, off field distractions, and was absolutely terrible in the biggest game of his career.

He was fun to watch, his highlights are fun too ... but good riddance. Barkley became the best player on the team as soon as he was drafted - and he’s actually likable on top of it.


This. The moment I truly viewed Barkley as the franchise player was when he broke off a long run early in the season for a TD. Beckham comes running down to try to get Barkley to participate in some stupid dance and Barkley shrugged him off. He shrugged him off because we were still losing the game.
OBJ is a little nuts, but he always worked hard and was a team guy.  
Ira : 4/23/2019 12:11 pm : link
My only problem with him was that he was injury prone.
Odell is an eyeroll  
madgiantscow009 : 4/23/2019 12:22 pm : link
not something that makes you feel worse than that. An endless stream of them though.
RE: OBJ is a little nuts, but he always worked hard and was a team guy.  
jpkmets : 4/23/2019 12:52 pm : link
In comment 14399519 Ira said:
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My only problem with him was that he was injury prone.


Agree. Actually think it was a decent call to part with him too early than too late. But I don’t wish him poorly at all. He was fun to watch. But I am wary of WRs once they start getting leg injuries. Hopefully, Peppers thrives and DG nails this draft.
RE: Britt-  
schabadoo : 4/23/2019 1:56 pm : link
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What is your definition of a millennial? I’m just curious because ppl tend to constantly think 16-22 year olds are millennials. Most millennials are married with kids. Hell, Eli is on the fringe of being a millennial.


Most millennials are single, never mind kids. The latest stat I saw had their marriage rate around 30%.
Whats the over/under on games before OBJ needs to leave the  
PatersonPlank : 4/23/2019 1:56 pm : link
1st half early for an "IV"? I say 4
RE: RE: Reporter: Is there a culture problem on the Giants?  
japanhead : 4/23/2019 3:46 pm : link
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Gettleman: Not anymore..



BUUURRRN!!!

But we all know OBJ is easily set off and this is just an example.


everyone knows there was a culture problem on the giants. hell, beckham probably knew it. getting rid of hart, apple, flowers, et al. were part of addressing that. OBJ was traded much later on and may or may not have been directly related to the culture problem. beckham should stop acting butthurt about it. best revenge is living well or some shit like that.
RE: Can someone  
mrvax : 4/23/2019 4:30 pm : link
In comment 14398220 Ron Johnson said:
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Translate that?


Yes. If you read between the lines, he's admitting he's an asshole.
again probably precipitated by Gettleman's dig  
bc4life : 4/23/2019 5:12 pm : link
DG should be creidted for making an ice cold business decision which is what he is paid to do. then he pisses on it by making the dumb comment about the culture being fixed - of course obj is going to fire back. Hed hadn't really said anything up to this point
Not to mention  
ron mexico : 4/23/2019 5:16 pm : link
I'm not sure how you can acertain the the culture is fixed in April.
RE: Gettleman WAS talking about OBJ among others  
Route 9 : 4/23/2019 7:03 pm : link
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OBJ responded. Just because Gettleman used veiled language doen’t make it less about the individuals he got rid of.

Both need to do less talking and more putting up this year.

PS. The “millennial” thing is tired. Older generations have always been insufferable with their yelling at clouds. At least with the Greatest Generation and some that preceded it, they left the younger generations better off than they were. Can’t say the same about the Boomers and jury is out on the Xers.


Yeah, those Boomers certainly did a magnificent job with that whole marriage thing.
He just needs to get on with his life  
montanagiant : 4/23/2019 7:23 pm : link
This is like that chick you break up with that doesn't get the clue and ends up stalking you from across the bar.

Just go on with your life and concentrate on your new team you bloviating diva.
Wow  
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 4/24/2019 7:26 am : link
Some of you guys wouldn’t hack it in a high school, where you have to work with Boomers and Millenials, while trying to convince teens not to get face tattoos like their SoundCloud rap idols. 😄
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