#Michigan DT Rashan Gary, one of the draft’s top defensive players, has a shoulder that was flagged, sources say. It’s a labral tear from college, and most believe he can play this season, then possibly have surgery afterward. It will likely have to be managed or harnessed, tho
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You know how I apologized for calling you a dupe. Please let me rescind that. Its obvious you are Goblue65999. Sad human being you are. Cant wait until your next dupe.
No way do you take a guy that high at 6 that is very unnatural as a pass rusher. His lack of bend is clear throughout all 3 years. Some guys just aren't natural pass rushers. Q Williams is and he showed it in his first year of extensive play time. Gary hasn't. He'll probably end up a solid player (hes an athletic marvel and good run stopper) but not a player you take all the way at 6.
For a guy who was the top prospect out of high school in 2016 - and by a wide margin - Gary has not come close to living up to his five star hype. Even his agent dep would have to admit that in an honest moment...
Injured or not you havent seen the most impactful facet of pss rush really at an elite level. The flashes were based on HWS not really nuance, technique or bending the arc well.
Don't know if this team has the guts to take another player who may need surgery, even at 17.
Exactly. He is a better more athletic version of Kerry Wynn. You don't take that at 6.
JJ Watt's season high in college was 7. He turned out ok :)
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now that this news proves he was so injured we should trade up and guarantee we get him in top 5! He was probably playing with a hidden injury in 2017 and 2016 too! Can't miss!
You know how I apologized for calling you a dupe. Please let me rescind that. Its obvious you are Goblue65999. Sad human being you are. Cant wait until your next dupe.
Perfect! And that must make you Gary’s father.
See here's the thing about expectations.... the Michigan defense's his freshman and sophomore years were light years better than what they had last year. It wasnt even close as far as talent was concerned.
Freshman year he didnt play as much as I liked, but they had Taco, Wormley, Gary, and Chase that all were doing their thing. That was the team I thought I had a real shot at the BCS but the early loss to Utah, the inexplicable loss to Iowa, and the referees handing OSU the win (haha, you know I wouldnt let you forget that one!!!)
His sophomore year, I thought he was amazing. Again, I point out the success everyone had one the team. 6 players with 10+ TFL, 6 players with 5 sacks or more. Just watch the film, they dont even bother running at him for most of the game. Watch how many times he coems down the line for a tackle. Or keeps contain. He was very, very good. He opened lanes for blitzers. Hudson was amazing in 2017 because he had a lot of free reigns. Bush as well. McCary who might be slower than you and I, even had a lot of success getting through gaps.
When people say his stats sucked, well go look at the opportunities he opened for his teammates, because that was his job. And let not act like he didnt get penetration, because he did - the problem was he played with so many good player - they often beat him by a split second.
Perfect! And that must make you Gary’s father.
Is this suppose to be funny?
Depending on who's there at 17 may not be horrible. Like Jack and Jaylon you could see him drop out of first round entirely depending on prognosis.
Taking a player in RD1 who can’t play this season makes no sense to me.
I expect that one of our RD1 picks will not play this season, by design. It would be frustrating if the other brand new RD1 toy also sits out 2019.
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is reaching Top 5 BBI Draft Crush status
Cool post, yo.
Dude....it is baffling how you can defend your stance on this. Holy shit.
BBI: No production his last year of ball.
dep: "He was hurt."
BBI: Drafting him in the 1st round would be irresponsible because of the uncertainty of his injury (labrum is not good when ypu play his position).
dep: "Other good players were hurt and drafted very high"
BBI: There are exceptions to the rule.
dep: "Cool story bro"
Wilkins will start at the 5 Tech from day 1. He will be a 3 down player
Not a good run defender according to just about everybody.
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In comment 14398942 jlukes said:
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is reaching Top 5 BBI Draft Crush status
Cool post, yo.
Dude....it is baffling how you can defend your stance on this. Holy shit.
BBI: No production his last year of ball.
dep: "He was hurt."
BBI: Drafting him in the 1st round would be irresponsible because of the uncertainty of his injury (labrum is not good when ypu play his position).
dep: "Other good players were hurt and drafted very high"
BBI: There are exceptions to the rule.
dep: "Cool story bro"
It’s tough to keep up with dupes. Which one are you again?
Gary at 37 is worth it because of his high floor as a run defender and HWS is off the charts. Not at 6 and meh at 17.
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was supposedly 2017. He had 5.5 sacks. I know the excuse for low sacks was, that wasn't his role. He was to set the edge. Well what was his role on third and long? Of his big 5.5 sacks, how many were straight up beating the OT with power or speed move?
JJ Watt's season high in college was 7. He turned out ok :)
JJ showed alot more flashes of nuanced ability and hand technique to win in the pass rush than Gary ever did.
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Or Allen at 6, Bush at 17 and Gary at 37 if he falls. Revamped defense
Gary at 37 is worth it because of his high floor as a run defender and HWS is off the charts. Not at 6 and meh at 17.
I think 17 is worth the risk. It’s a very treatable injury. I tore my labrum playing college baseball and was back throwing full strength in 3 months.
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Or Allen at 6, Bush at 17 and Gary at 37 if he falls. Revamped defense
Gary at 37 is worth it because of his high floor as a run defender and HWS is off the charts. Not at 6 and meh at 17.
I think 17 is worth the risk. It’s a very treatable injury. I tore my labrum playing college baseball and was back throwing full strength in 3 months.
17 is much more palatable than 6.
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In comment 14398942 jlukes said:
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is reaching Top 5 BBI Draft Crush status
Cool post, yo.
Dude....it is baffling how you can defend your stance on this. Holy shit.
BBI: No production his last year of ball.
dep: "He was hurt."
BBI: Drafting him in the 1st round would be irresponsible because of the uncertainty of his injury (labrum is not good when ypu play his position).
dep: "Other good players were hurt and drafted very high"
BBI: There are exceptions to the rule.
dep: "Cool story bro"
It’s tough to keep up with dupes. Which one are you again?
Im not a dupe. I just have watched you get ridiculed for your rants for a few years now. I signed up recently because I was intrigued with this draft.
But keep calling me a dupe. If I stick around for another year, do I get my BBI Tenderfoot badge? And havent you been banned before?
Dont be mad at me because I just started responding....maybe come with better material?
You’re as much of a dupe as I’m an eli fan. This poster has The Jake written all over it.