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Antonio Bryant doubling down that Kyler not going #1

Josh in the City : 4/23/2019 10:47 am
So yesterday Antonio Bryant tweeted the following:

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@AB89x
Heard from people inside the Cardinals organization that Nick Bosa is #1 on their board and that they are going to stick with Josh Rosen at QB

Most in the media took it with a grain of salt. But this morning Bryant doubled down on his prediction with the following:
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@AB89x
I'm telling you I trust my source. This ain't no smokescreen...The Cardinals are going to draft Nick Bosa 1st overall...Just wait on it & #128175;

Throw this in with what Pete Prisco said and maybe there is some truth to the fact that the Cards go with Bosa at #1 overall. If that's the case, would BBI want the Giants to go make a move for Murray? In the right scheme, he and Saquon could be insane together and would be entertaining as hell. I'd be on board.
As in the former Steelers now  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/23/2019 10:48 am : link
Raiders WR? That Antonio Bryant?
Not me  
Rjanyg : 4/23/2019 10:48 am : link
I want Josh Allen to fall to us.
Murray is a Smug  
crooza172 : 4/23/2019 10:49 am : link
SOB with an entitled attitude. He cut off visits with Washington because hes a punk like Deon. I have no interest in the midget whos one hit away from baseball.
I do not want Murray period  
Oscar : 4/23/2019 10:50 am : link
#37 overall sure, but not with the first round picks. I know small QBs are fine now but I dont want a 510, 200 pound QB who runs a lot. He is going to take a beating.

Haskins or Jones for me, Lock I could be persuaded but the more I read the less I like him.
Thats the right move.  
mittenedman : 4/23/2019 10:52 am : link
Bosa is a 1st Team All Pro the minute he arrives. Gold jacket
RE: I do not want Murray period  
Josh in the City : 4/23/2019 10:52 am : link
In comment 14399294 Oscar said:
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#37 overall sure, but not with the first round picks. I know small QBs are fine now but I dont want a 510, 200 pound QB who runs a lot. He is going to take a beating.

Haskins or Jones for me, Lock I could be persuaded but the more I read the less I like him.

Why do you like Jones more than Lock?
did this all start with him not willing to sign off on baseball  
Chip : 4/23/2019 10:52 am : link
if that's the case I would not take him. He could be a concussion away from quitting and going back to baseball. He also has negatives by being to short and with short arms. He is also a running QB who don't always last in the NFL.
RE: As in the former Steelers now  
arcarsenal : 4/23/2019 10:53 am : link
In comment 14399289 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Raiders WR? That Antonio Bryant?


I think it's the Antonio Bryant that went to PITT and played for Dallas years back.
If this is true  
figgy2989 : 4/23/2019 10:53 am : link
How do you repair the damage you have done with the relationship with Rosen?
yeah who would want a QB who doesnt want to play..  
Italianju : 4/23/2019 10:54 am : link
for a specific franchise.....

Maybe he just didnt want to go to WAS. Again i can think of a QB pretty close to home who must also have been an entitled SOB who could decide who he didnt want to visit or play for.
RE: RE: As in the former Steelers now  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/23/2019 10:55 am : link
In comment 14399302 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14399289 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Raiders WR? That Antonio Bryant?



I think it's the Antonio Bryant that went to PITT and played for Dallas years back.


LOL. Yeah, you're right. I'm getting Antonio Brown & Antonio Bryant confused. I'm becoming my old man with 'Bobby Bonds' when referring to Barry.
Trade down hard on this. Some team wants Murray  
PatersonPlank : 4/23/2019 10:55 am : link
and will give a lot to get our #6 (If Oak doesn't take him).

Also if Oakland does take him, I'd trade our #37 for Carr. He's relatively young, mobile, and had some really good years. He's a 2 time All-Pro player. His 2016 year was really good, when Oakland was still a so-so team. Even last year he was ok in the face of complete crap surrounding him.
RE: RE: RE: As in the former Steelers now  
dep026 : 4/23/2019 10:55 am : link
In comment 14399309 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 14399289 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Raiders WR? That Antonio Bryant?



I think it's the Antonio Bryant that went to PITT and played for Dallas years back.



LOL. Yeah, you're right. I'm getting Antonio Brown & Antonio Bryant confused. I'm becoming my old man with 'Bobby Bonds' when referring to Barry.


Or Antonio Brown and Martavis Bryant!
RE: Murray is a Smug  
Big Rick in FL : 4/23/2019 10:56 am : link
In comment 14399292 crooza172 said:
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SOB with an entitled attitude. He cut off visits with Washington because hes a punk like Deon. I have no interest in the midget whos one hit away from baseball.


No he cut off visits with Washington because he doesn't want to waste his time or Washington's time. That's not being a punk. Jesus Christ.
RE: If this is true  
Tom from LI : 4/23/2019 10:56 am : link
In comment 14399303 figgy2989 said:
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How do you repair the damage you have done with the relationship with Rosen?


More importantly... do they now have to re-shoot their promo video?
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arcarsenal : 4/23/2019 10:56 am : link
I was just looking at Bryant's career for kicks... I didn't realize how solid a year he had in 2008 for TB.

83 catches, 1248 yards, 7 scores.

And then 2009 was his last year in the NFL.

People aren't kidding when they say that "NFL" stands for Not For Long...
RE: RE: If this is true  
Josh in the City : 4/23/2019 10:58 am : link
In comment 14399315 Tom from LI said:
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How do you repair the damage you have done with the relationship with Rosen?



More importantly... do they now have to re-shoot their promo video?

They already did.
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Josh in the City : 4/23/2019 10:59 am : link
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RE: RE: RE: As in the former Steelers now  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/23/2019 10:59 am : link
In comment 14399309 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Raiders WR? That Antonio Bryant?



I think it's the Antonio Bryant that went to PITT and played for Dallas years back.



LOL. Yeah, you're right. I'm getting Antonio Brown & Antonio Bryant confused. I'm becoming my old man with 'Bobby Bonds' when referring to Barry.


Lol I made the same mistake until you got corrected. Glad I got here later :)
RE: If this is true  
AcesUp : 4/23/2019 11:00 am : link
In comment 14399303 figgy2989 said:
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How do you repair the damage you have done with the relationship with Rosen?


That's what always brings me back when I entertain the idea that the Cards are just blowing smoke. How do they play footsie with Murray for 3-4 months and then turn around to go back to your their young QB after? Why would you be so reckless with your 2nd year QBs confidence if keeping him was realistically on the table? This is the Cardinals we're talking about but it just doesn't add up.
RE: If this is true  
GiantsLaw : 4/23/2019 11:02 am : link
In comment 14399303 figgy2989 said:
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How do you repair the damage you have done with the relationship with Rosen?

You just pull him aside and say they were trying to get max trade value for the pick, it was the plan all along and they had to do keep him in the dark to make it look legit.
I don't trust him or his sources  
ZogZerg : 4/23/2019 11:05 am : link
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I hope it happens  
UConn4523 : 4/23/2019 11:06 am : link
make the rest of the draft completely unpredictable. There will be a lot of offer to trade up for Murray.
It  
AcidTest : 4/23/2019 11:08 am : link
could be a smokescreen, but if true, I wouldn't trade up for Murray. And as others have noted, it would be hard to repair their relationship with Rosen. I still think the Cardinals take Murray.
Looks like my guy  
mittenedman : 4/23/2019 11:09 am : link
was half right/half wrong....Unless the Cards will still try to trade down. That's what I'd do if I were them, and keeping Rosen. They need to rebuild that OLine and receiving core - they don't *need* Bosa as much. IMO.


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RE: I hope it happens  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/23/2019 11:11 am : link
In comment 14399339 UConn4523 said:
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make the rest of the draft completely unpredictable. There will be a lot of offer to trade up for Murray.

Jets could get a truckload of picks.

Personally I would trade soft Andy Dalton Darnold and take Murray.
RE: It  
TommyWiseau : 4/23/2019 11:19 am : link
In comment 14399344 AcidTest said:
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could be a smokescreen, but if true, I wouldn't trade up for Murray. And as others have noted, it would be hard to repair their relationship with Rosen. I still think the Cardinals take Murray.


How would it be hard to "repair" their relationship? Hey Josh, we were never taking Murray we were trying to get a kings ransom for the 1st pick in a trade down so we can get you more weapons and offensive lineman.
I never thought and still don't think Murray is going #1  
Csonka : 4/23/2019 11:21 am : link
AZ was trying to field offers.

That said ... to me he's clearly the best QB in this draft by a long shot. I'd run to the podium at #6 to take him. But I'm not trading up.
Take Him At #6  
Rong5611 : 4/23/2019 11:27 am : link
If he's there, the Giants should take him at #6. I would not trade up for him.

He's a franchise QB worthy of the spot.

No brainer.
NOW I'm certain...  
M.S. : 4/23/2019 11:29 am : link

...Kyler Murray is going #1 to the Cards.

RE: Take Him At #6  
Rong5611 : 4/23/2019 11:29 am : link
I'll add, he won't get past the Raiders (unless Washington, Miami, Denver or us trade with the Jets to get him)

...if this is actually true (this is dubious at best)


In comment 14399397 Rong5611 said:
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If he's there, the Giants should take him at #6. I would not trade up for him.

He's a franchise QB worthy of the spot.

No brainer.
RE: Murray is a Smug  
SimpleMan : 4/23/2019 11:30 am : link
In comment 14399292 crooza172 said:
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SOB with an entitled attitude. He cut off visits with Washington because hes a punk like Deon. I have no interest in the midget whos one hit away from baseball.


Could be worse, he could have his Dad tell the team that drafts him he won't play for them.
RE: Thats the right move.  
90.Cal : 4/23/2019 11:45 am : link
In comment 14399299 mittenedman said:
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Bosa is a 1st Team All Pro the minute he arrives. Gold jacket


Seriously doubt that
RE: RE: Murray is a Smug  
ajr2456 : 4/23/2019 11:49 am : link
In comment 14399409 SimpleMan said:
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SOB with an entitled attitude. He cut off visits with Washington because hes a punk like Deon. I have no interest in the midget whos one hit away from baseball.



Could be worse, he could have his Dad tell the team that drafts him he won't play for them.


Shhh, Archie might see this
Murray isn't just a running QB  
chuckydee9 : 4/23/2019 11:50 am : link
He actually has passing numbers and skills similar to Baker Mayfield, who just set the all time rookie TD passing record without being the starter at the beginning of the season. Can Murray Run? Yes.. Can he pass like a pocket QB? Go watch the games.. he definitely can.. His height isn't a problem either.. he had less passes batted down than some of the 6'3" to 6'5" QBs coming out with 1st round grades.. The weight may be a problem as he may not be able to take NFL hits.. but he is good at avoiding the hits and generally doesn't take those risks like RGIII.. If he isn't drafted 1st overall.. we should trade with SF to get the 2nd pick which will be much cheaper to get this guy.. He is the best passer in the draft..
Murray would be a godsend (like Barkley)  
GothamGiants : 4/23/2019 11:57 am : link
but this is all predraft posturing and BS

I believe nothing in the headlines pre-draft
RE: RE: Thats the right move.  
CromartiesKid21 : 4/23/2019 12:03 pm : link
In comment 14399444 90.Cal said:
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Bosa is a 1st Team All Pro the minute he arrives. Gold jacket



Seriously doubt that


The limited amount of snaps Bosa got in his Ohio St career is glaring. Not to mention the possible conflict in the locker room with his love for Trump and liking posts made my people who use the N-word and like to gay bash.

Big reason why 49ers are considering passing on him at #2 with how liberal SF is.
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TommyWiseau : 4/23/2019 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14399503 CromartiesKid21 said:
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Bosa is a 1st Team All Pro the minute he arrives. Gold jacket



Seriously doubt that



The limited amount of snaps Bosa got in his Ohio St career is glaring. Not to mention the possible conflict in the locker room with his love for Trump and liking posts made my people who use the N-word and like to gay bash.

Big reason why 49ers are considering passing on him at #2 with how liberal SF is. Link - ( New Window )


Guy supports his president, what's wrong with that?
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/23/2019 12:17 pm : link
In comment 14399522 TommyWiseau said:
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Bosa is a 1st Team All Pro the minute he arrives. Gold jacket



Seriously doubt that



The limited amount of snaps Bosa got in his Ohio St career is glaring. Not to mention the possible conflict in the locker room with his love for Trump and liking posts made my people who use the N-word and like to gay bash.

Big reason why 49ers are considering passing on him at #2 with how liberal SF is. Link - ( New Window )



Guy supports his president, what's wrong with that?


Well, as a former resident of the area, there's a lot wrong with that in 2019.
Bye bye thread  
adamg : 4/23/2019 12:18 pm : link
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TommyWiseau : 4/23/2019 12:24 pm : link
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Bosa is a 1st Team All Pro the minute he arrives. Gold jacket



Seriously doubt that



The limited amount of snaps Bosa got in his Ohio St career is glaring. Not to mention the possible conflict in the locker room with his love for Trump and liking posts made my people who use the N-word and like to gay bash.

Big reason why 49ers are considering passing on him at #2 with how liberal SF is. Link - ( New Window )



Guy supports his president, what's wrong with that?



Well, as a former resident of the area, there's a lot wrong with that in 2019.


Then that is pretty damn sad
We have so many criteria here...  
EricJ : 4/23/2019 12:29 pm : link
when it comes to who we draft for our next QB that being "smug" (which is also subjective and based upon perception) is now one more thing that needs to be considered.

When can we require BBI members to take the wonderlic test?
RE: Thats the right move.  
Tuckrule : 4/23/2019 12:45 pm : link
In comment 14399299 mittenedman said:
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Bosa is a 1st Team All Pro the minute he arrives. Gold jacket


No he is not. Most scouts have him rated lower than his brother
RE: Trade down hard on this. Some team wants Murray  
81_Great_Dane : 4/23/2019 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14399310 PatersonPlank said:
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and will give a lot to get our #6 (If Oak doesn't take him).

Also if Oakland does take him, I'd trade our #37 for Carr. ...
That would have to be on the table.
This guy is Mike Vick all over again  
Little boy Lost : 4/23/2019 1:44 pm : link
What is wrong with these scouts. Plus he had en effeminate attitude to boot. Cancerous!
RE: If this is true  
Thinblueline : 4/23/2019 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14399303 figgy2989 said:
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How do you repair the damage you have done with the relationship with Rosen?


Nobody in the organization said they were taking Murray, It has been only speculation by the sports media so I'm sure Rosen will not been upset with the Cards...
RE: This guy is Mike Vick all over again  
Josh in the City : 4/23/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14399632 Little boy Lost said:
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What is wrong with these scouts. Plus he had en effeminate attitude to boot. Cancerous!

Mike Vick would be a stud in today's NFL with today's offensive coordinators and their offenses. Would have no problem with that.
RE: Trade down hard on this. Some team wants Murray  
Thinblueline : 4/23/2019 2:25 pm : link
In comment 14399310 PatersonPlank said:
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and will give a lot to get our #6 (If Oak doesn't take him).

Also if Oakland does take him, I'd trade our #37 for Carr. He's relatively young, mobile, and had some really good years. He's a 2 time All-Pro player. His 2016 year was really good, when Oakland was still a so-so team. Even last year he was ok in the face of complete crap surrounding him.

I would go after some next year picks to set us for next year QB's...
RE: RE: This guy is Mike Vick all over again  
arcarsenal : 4/23/2019 2:32 pm : link
In comment 14399751 Josh in the City said:
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What is wrong with these scouts. Plus he had en effeminate attitude to boot. Cancerous!


Mike Vick would be a stud in today's NFL with today's offensive coordinators and their offenses. Would have no problem with that.


He wouldn't be any more durable today than he was when he played. He also was very inaccurate.

It's not like Vick played in the 80's. He retired less than 5 years ago.
RE: RE: RE: This guy is Mike Vick all over again  
Josh in the City : 4/23/2019 2:35 pm : link
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What is wrong with these scouts. Plus he had en effeminate attitude to boot. Cancerous!


Mike Vick would be a stud in today's NFL with today's offensive coordinators and their offenses. Would have no problem with that.



He wouldn't be any more durable today than he was when he played. He also was very inaccurate.

It's not like Vick played in the 80's. He retired less than 5 years ago.

Fair but I'm talking more about Mike Vick in his prime. And you're right about his inability to protect himself from injury. But if that Vick played in today's NFL, I feel like he would be a stud. Imagine having him in an RPO or West Coast offense. If he could stay healthy he'd be incredible.
One problem with Murray  
Vanzetti : 4/23/2019 3:19 pm : link
is that it really makes much more sense economically and health-wise for him to play baseball.

Right now, he is "committed" to football but that could change with his first injury or after a little frustration not being able to read defenses.

So, you have to throw that into the equation when calculating his "value" as a draft pick.
RE: Murray is a Smug  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/23/2019 3:23 pm : link
In comment 14399292 crooza172 said:
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SOB with an entitled attitude. He cut off visits with Washington because hes a punk like Deon. I have no interest in the midget whos one hit away from baseball.


You've been hanging with him lately?
RE: This guy is Mike Vick all over again  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/23/2019 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14399632 Little boy Lost said:
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What is wrong with these scouts. Plus he had en effeminate attitude to boot. Cancerous!


Are you for real or are you trolling? You can't be this dumb.
If Murray is there at 6  
joeinpa : 4/23/2019 4:09 pm : link
And Giants take Jones there instead, those who were hoping Giants would have strong conviction about drafting a quarterback, should find this quite pleasing
Murray is a much better passer than Vick  
GothamGiants : 4/23/2019 7:40 pm : link
and I would still take the next Mike Vick

1 of the greatest athletes Ive ever seen. Scumbag, but incredible football player
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