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NGT: Raiders Planning a Surprise Pick

figgy2989 : 4/23/2019 11:52 am
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The Oakland Raiders sent home their scouting department before the draft for fear of leaks.

Could that anxiety stem from an expectation that new Raiders general manager Mike Mayock and coach Jon Gruden are planning a bombshell maneuver on Thursday during Round 1 of the 2019 NFL Draft and want to ensure a report doesn't scuttle the plot?

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport said on Up To The Minute Live that his understanding is what that the "Raiders are looking at is some sort of surprise pick at No. 4 that would necessitate absolute secrecy."


With the recent leaks about the Cards going with Bosa, could the Raiders end up picking Murray? Most of the mocks have the Raiders going DL/ER with the number 4 pick.

As most draftniks have stated there are about 5-6 elite prospects in this draft, who could the Raiders go that would "surprise" the NFL world?
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I can easily seem them trading up to 1 for Murray  
UConn4523 : 4/23/2019 11:53 am : link
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Daniel Jones?  
Britt in VA : 4/23/2019 11:54 am : link
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RE: I can easily seem them trading up to 1 for Murray  
figgy2989 : 4/23/2019 11:54 am : link
In comment 14399472 UConn4523 said:
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Well they definitely have the draft capital to do it.
RE: Daniel Jones?  
figgy2989 : 4/23/2019 11:55 am : link
In comment 14399476 Britt in VA said:
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Britt, funny you say that, as I was typing the OP, I was actually going to say Jones or possibly Drew Lock.
Dear lord, let it be Jones  
Greg from LI : 4/23/2019 11:56 am : link
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Ed Oliver  
dep026 : 4/23/2019 11:56 am : link
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It would make sense....  
Britt in VA : 4/23/2019 11:57 am : link
because Jones will be there at four, but they could be thinking the Giants think he'll be there at six too. So if it was leaked they wanted Jones, it would prompt the Giants to try and move above them.

They will have first shot at the QB crop, IMO. Arizona is not picking Murray at one.
The Raiders being  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/23/2019 11:57 am : link
the Raiders.
RE: Ed Oliver  
figgy2989 : 4/23/2019 11:57 am : link
In comment 14399483 dep026 said:
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dep, would that really be a surprise though? Oliver is being mocked in the top 10 for most drafts, but I guess in Raider Land, that could be considered a Surprise.
I  
AcidTest : 4/23/2019 11:58 am : link
thought their "surprise pick" was Haskins.
RE: RE: Ed Oliver  
dep026 : 4/23/2019 11:58 am : link
In comment 14399488 figgy2989 said:
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dep, would that really be a surprise though? Oliver is being mocked in the top 10 for most drafts, but I guess in Raider Land, that could be considered a Surprise.


With Q. Williams on the board, I would think so.
Maybe Devin White  
Ira : 4/23/2019 12:02 pm : link
Some mocks have him going near there.
Could it be the OL?  
kelsto811 : 4/23/2019 12:04 pm : link
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If true, it must be a QB  
George from PA : 4/23/2019 12:04 pm : link
trading up to one....has no risk for leaks.

Oliver? Or whoever positional player will be minimal risk.

QB is only one that teams might jump, imo
Hopefully they take  
Metnut : 4/23/2019 12:08 pm : link
Haskins
A few weeks ago  
Big Rick in FL : 4/23/2019 12:44 pm : link
Mike Silver mentioned the Raiders having a lot of interest in Kyler & Haskins.
Greedy Williams  
jpkmets : 4/23/2019 12:45 pm : link
Is the perfect Raiders pick. More hype than substance and a marketable name. Draft is short on Raiders’ true bread and butter - WR with elite speed who can’t run routes or catch, so Greedy fits.
I heard on numerous talk sport radio shows that every team  
PatersonPlank : 4/23/2019 12:50 pm : link
sends home their scouts now. Not sure why its such a big thing that the Raiders have. Teams don't even let the scouts in the draft room. They have them ready to talk if they need additional info on a player, but thats it. At this point its lockdown time for every team.
RE: I heard on numerous talk sport radio shows that every team  
Matt in SGS : 4/23/2019 1:01 pm : link
In comment 14399566 PatersonPlank said:
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sends home their scouts now. Not sure why its such a big thing that the Raiders have. Teams don't even let the scouts in the draft room. They have them ready to talk if they need additional info on a player, but thats it. At this point its lockdown time for every team.


I think the key is they didn't ask them to come back. The writing is on the wall with Mayock there that after the draft they probably clean house and fire all the scouts and hire a new group. That's pretty SOP for a new GM. Essentially they are saying "thanks, we'll take it from here".
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AcidTest : 4/23/2019 1:23 pm : link
would want the scouts in the draft room. Not as a reward for their hard work, but because having done so they are an additional source of information.
RE: Dear lord, let it be Jones  
GiantsLaw : 4/23/2019 1:33 pm : link
In comment 14399482 Greg from LI said:
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What pick could be that big a surprise?  
81_Great_Dane : 4/23/2019 1:33 pm : link
I mean, the thing that would be super secret would be something another team could do instead of them. Like, if they found some loophole that would let them draft Trevor Lawrence or something, and if it got out then the teams ahead of them could exploit the same loophole.

Otherwise it all sounds like a lot of drama over very little.

I guess if they want to draft a QB, they could be worried that someone will trade up to get him if the word gets out. But it's not a big secret that Gruden doesn't love Derek Carr and that they might be willing to move on.

If I'm running the Giants, I love the idea of the Raiders taking a QB, because then it's more likely one of the top edge rushers falls to #6.
Jamarcus Russell, part deux?  
sober297 : 4/23/2019 1:36 pm : link
the QB from U of Buffalo.
Giants  
Thinblueline : 4/23/2019 1:55 pm : link
Are not taking a QB at 6 or 17..
Metcalf  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/23/2019 2:01 pm : link
Or Sweat.
RE: Giants  
TMS : 4/23/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14399663 Thinblueline said:
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Are not taking a QB at 6 or 17..
Hope you are right.
Murray COULD be special  
TMS : 4/23/2019 2:04 pm : link
and everybody knows it. Can see it happen.
RE: Dear lord, let it be Jones  
jnoble : 4/23/2019 2:09 pm : link
In comment 14399482 Greg from LI said:
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There's no way Gruden likes Jones over Haskins or Lock assuming they go QB in the first place which I don't believe
Donkey  
GoDeep13 : 4/23/2019 2:43 pm : link
Kong Metcalf?
Surprise pick at 4 they don't want to be jumped  
BlueLou'sBack : 4/23/2019 2:48 pm : link
ahead of for?

Chuckie loved home some Drew Lock at the Senior Bowl, and no one would jump the Raiders at 4 for Lock - unless they suspected the Raiders were targeting him.
RE: Greedy Williams  
Giantz_comeback : 4/23/2019 2:51 pm : link
In comment 14399563 jpkmets said:
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Is the perfect Raiders pick. More hype than substance and a marketable name. Draft is short on Raiders’ true bread and butter - WR with elite speed who can’t run routes or catch, so Greedy fits.


Greedy runs routes effortlessly with receivers he has that rare special blanket coverage ability. And Mayock has a very good eye. If its Greedy they made an excellent pick.
RE: Giants  
Giantz_comeback : 4/23/2019 2:52 pm : link
In comment 14399663 Thinblueline said:
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Are not taking a QB at 6 or 17..


Just about definitely not at 6. Likely not at 17 either but more possible. Will Grier round 2-3 makes more sense.
Wow  
mittenedman : 4/23/2019 8:41 pm : link
Sounds like they may be taking Hockenson at 4
RE: Wow  
Giantz_comeback : 4/23/2019 9:46 pm : link
In comment 14400386 mittenedman said:
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Sounds like they may be taking Hockenson at 4


If Oak does this or a non pass rush guy , it would be huge. Also more reason for them to trade with us.
Regading Ed Oliver  
Optimus-NY : 4/23/2019 10:17 pm : link
It looks like he Jets have the hots for him at 3.
They must pay them very little.  
Josh in MD : 4/23/2019 11:06 pm : link
This means that the Raiders' scouts own no landlines, no cell phones and no internet service. Tell me where to send a donation to those poor guys.
RE: I heard on numerous talk sport radio shows that every team  
Chocco : 4/24/2019 5:52 am : link
In comment 14399566 PatersonPlank said:
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sends home their scouts now. Not sure why its such a big thing that the Raiders have. Teams don't even let the scouts in the draft room. They have them ready to talk if they need additional info on a player, but thats it. At this point its lockdown time for every team.

Except the Raiders still have 2 late first round picks (at least for now). It's much harder to have a pre draft plan for pics 24 and 27, not knowing who will still be available at that point. I guess 27 can be used to trade down, there are usually teams looking to trade back into round 1.
I hope it s not the  
joeinpa : 4/24/2019 6:35 am : link
Quarterback Gettleman believes is a Super Bowl winning one.
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