Place your bets... predict Sy's QB rankings

I'm going with...

1. Lock
2. Murray
3. Finley
4. Haskins
5. Grier

I'll say this. If Sy ends up ranking Jones very high, this place is going to be unbearable.

Jones
Haskins
Murray
Lock
Rypien

1. Jones
2. Murray
3. Finley
4. Lock
5. Haskins

1. Murray
2. Lock
3. Haskins
4. Jones
5. Grier

Jones
Lock
Grier
Haskins
Murray

In comment 14399743 bw in dc said:

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I'm going with... 1. Lock 2. Murray 3. Finley 4. Haskins 5. Grier I'll say this. If Sy ends up ranking Jones very high, this place is going to be unbearable.

So if a guy who CLEARLY knows his stuff likes him - in other words, knows waaaaaaaay more than you - you're still not going to be convinced he's at least worth a look?

1) Murray
2) Haskins
3) Lock
4) Jones (He's said that he see's Jones as a career backup in other threads)
5) Grier
6) Finley

1.Lock
2.Haskins
3.Jones
4.Murray
5.Stidham

1) Drew Lock
2) Murray
3) Jones
4) Haskins
5) Stidham

In comment 14399765 speedywheels said:

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In comment 14399743 bw in dc said: Quote: I'm going with... 1. Lock 2. Murray 3. Finley 4. Haskins 5. Grier I'll say this. If Sy ends up ranking Jones very high, this place is going to be unbearable. So if a guy who CLEARLY knows his stuff likes him - in other words, knows waaaaaaaay more than you - you're still not going to be convinced he's at least worth a look?

Speedy, BW has forgotten more about QB play than Sy's ever known. Just ask him

1. Murray
2. Lock
3. Haskins
4. Jones
5. Grier
6. Finley

In comment 14399765 speedywheels said:

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So if a guy who CLEARLY knows his stuff likes him - in other words, knows waaaaaaaay more than you - you're still not going to be convinced he's at least worth a look?

I enjoy Sy's opinions, but no.

This isn't a science. It's more art, and very subjective. I am comfortable that I know what a top tiered QB looks like. And Jones doesn't fit that bill.

But I'll certainly will read Sy's thoughts and consider it.

interested in the actual grades and where they stack up to the rest of the class than the order.

Not the way I hope he sees it though. Cause the more I read about Jones the more I like him. And I don't ever seeing the Giants taking Murray even if he's on the board for them.

In comment 14399743 bw in dc said:

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I'm going with... 1. Lock 2. Murray 3. Finley 4. Haskins 5. Grier I'll say this. If Sy ends up ranking Jones very high, this place is going to be unbearable.

Aaaah, the resident expert on all things football. So what if Sy ranks Jones high? I can say for certain he hes done a helluva lot more homework on draft prospects than you have. Sy has admitted when he was wrong on prospects in the past, unlike you who will disappear when proven wrong.

...but I would take an educated guess at what his "NYG APPROACH" section will recommend. Sy'56 graded Josh Rosen at 89 last year, and I think he has mentioned that nothing Rosen did in 2018 affected that assessment much.

I doubt any of the 2019 entrants will come close to Rosen's grade. If that's the case, well, the rest just comes down to haggling over price - assuming, of course, that Arizona takes Murray.

In comment 14399771 PatersonPlank said:

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Speedy, BW has forgotten more about QB play than Sy's ever known. Just ask him

Now that made me laugh...Nice. ;)

1. Kyler Murray
2. Drew Lock
3. Dwayne Haskins
4. Daniel Jones
5. Will Grier

In comment 14399787 figgy2989 said:

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Aaaah, the resident expert on all things football. So what if Sy ranks Jones high? I can say for certain he hes done a helluva lot more homework on draft prospects than you have. Sy has admitted when he was wrong on prospects in the past, unlike you who will disappear when proven wrong.

I'll accept Sy's opinion, which I'm sure will be reasoned and measured, but still think he's wrong.

1.) Haskins
2.) Murray
3.) Stick
4.) Lock
5.) Grier

Rosen rated his highest prospect last year as well. Just some more food for thought.

1. Murray
2. Haskins
3. Lock
4. Jones
5. Grier

BigBlueDownTheShore said:

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Rosen rated his highest prospect last year as well. Just some more food for thought.

I'm sure Sy's writeup will address the (possible) Rosen option, whether he recommends a trade or not.

In comment 14399771 PatersonPlank said:

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Speedy, BW has forgotten more about QB play than Sy's ever known. Just ask him

Ha!

1. Eric Dungey

Rosen was in a tough situation and we will eventually know if he was good or not.. either way you can't judge now.. SY was also just as high on Mayfield (+- couple of points) and looking back Mayfield did great.. anyhow my guess is:
1. Murray
2. Grier
3. Haskins
4. Lock
5.. Someone else but not Jones..

sees in his analysis but we should be very grateful that he shares his work with all of us. We are lucky to have him.

Three QB's intrigue me:

Murray: He seems to have it all except size; can't imagine the excitement with him and Barkley playing together. The other red flag is whether he can handle media in NY. He would get my pick at 6 in a heartbeat.

Haskins: He has an accurate and strong arm and has shown good leadership skills. He wants to be a star for the Giants. His one year does not scare me. His mobility and weight could be a concern.

Jones: He may be the best of the bunch or he may be a bust. He seems to have a good football mind and the toughness needed for the NFL. I am always concerned if the QB does not have a strong arm though I do not watch enough college to know this.

I will be happy with any of these guys but Sy will know much more and I look forward to his analysis. Since I like these three, he will probably like Lock, Grier, and Stidham better and I won't argue.

1.) Murray
2.) Lock
3.) Finley
4.) Grier
5.) Jones
6.) Haskins

Honorable mention Gardner Minshew . Ok just kidding. I just really like Minshew and hope he sticks somewhere.

In comment 14399818 Ryan said:

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1.) Haskins 2.) Murray 3.) Stick 4.) Lock 5.) Grier

Ditto

1. Murray
2. Haskins
3. Lock
4. Jones
5. Finley
6. Grier

Lock
Murray
Haskins
Jones
Grier

will give odds on Sy's picks.

In comment 14399732 BigBlue2112 said:

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Just based on what I've heard from Dan Shonka, GM/Scout for Ourlads' NFL Scouting, and what he's said on some podcasts/mock drafts of late. I wouldnt doubt if Sy lined with Dan and the Ourlads mock. They have the Giants taking Haskins, Jawaan Taylor, Jaylon Ferguson @ 6,17,37 Ourlads Mock Draft - ( New Window )

2 offensive players in this class would be beyond stupid ... sign me up for Ferguson @ 37 though (even with 2 picks on D in round 1)

Build the defense!

Murray
Lock
Haskins
Jones

Jones
Haskins
Murray
Lock
Grier

Murray
Lock
Haskins
Jones
Grier

He had Rosen 1 and Allen 5. He seemed to prioritize quick release, accuracy, and arm strength and he seemed to discount QBs who lack arm strength.

I'll go with...

1. Dwayne Haskins
2. Kyler Murray
3. Drew Lock
4. Will Grier
5. Daniel Jones

In comment 14399964 AdamBrag said:

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He had Rosen 1 and Allen 5. He seemed to prioritize quick release, accuracy, and arm strength and he seemed to discount QBs who lack arm strength. I'll go with... 1. Dwayne Haskins 2. Kyler Murray 3. Drew Lock 4. Will Grier 5. Daniel Jones

During the Rose Bowl this year between OSU and Washington, there was a game thread. While there were a lot of posters raving about Haskins, Sy very subtly mentioned that there were some things that were troubling. Footwork and mechanics, I think, were two of those concerns. So at least for that game, Sy wasn't drinking the Haskins Kool-Aid.

But we shall see in a few days...

Kyle Shurmur
Easton Stick
Gardener Minshaw

In comment 14399978 bw in dc said:

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In comment 14399964 AdamBrag said: Quote: He had Rosen 1 and Allen 5. He seemed to prioritize quick release, accuracy, and arm strength and he seemed to discount QBs who lack arm strength. I'll go with... 1. Dwayne Haskins 2. Kyler Murray 3. Drew Lock 4. Will Grier 5. Daniel Jones During the Rose Bowl this year between OSU and Washington, there was a game thread. While there were a lot of posters raving about Haskins, Sy very subtly mentioned that there were some things that were troubling. Footwork and mechanics, I think, were two of those concerns. So at least for that game, Sy wasn't drinking the Haskins Kool-Aid. But we shall see in a few days...

That's a great point. If he didn't like Haskins footwork and mechanics in that game, it wasn't better earlier in the year. Kyler has so many risks, can he be #1? I'm excited to find out.

1. Jones
2. Stidham
3. Haskins
4. Grier
5. Lock

Murray
Grier
Lock
Stidham
Haskins
Jones

Lock
Jones
Murray
Finley

1. Kyle Shurmur (We all know Pat Shurmer paid Sy off)
2. Jake Browning
3. Clayton Thorson
4. Tyree Jackson
5. Brett Rypien

QB's would line up with last year's top 4. That is, a ranking of this year's top five and last year's top 4.

Haskins
Lock
Jones
Grier
Murray
Finley

1. Lock
2. Haskins
3. Jones
4. Murray
5. Finley
6. Stidham

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NYG APPROACH Let me start off by saying 2 things. One, this QB class isn’t close to what the 2018 QB class was. Two, Josh Rosen is a couple tiers above all these guys and as I said in February, I am willing to give up a 1st round pick for him if it came down to that. If WAS offered their 15th overall pick, can NYG maybe offer #6 and get back Rosen plus ARI #33 overall? I think it is a bargain to pay for a franchise QB. If you told me last year at this time that NYG could have Rosen AND Barkley AND 3 picks in the top 37 of the 2019 draft, I am not even thinking about it. That is a no brainer in my eyes.

Sy makes that be wrong, but his opinion deserves respect.

Anyway, those who said Haskins - Jones - Lock - Murray/Finley win a Kliff Kingsbury bobblehead.

In comment 14399733 Thegratefulhead said:

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Haskins Jones Lock Murray Finley

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