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How often do you expect DG to jump into Rounds 1-3?

Ben in Tampa : 4/23/2019 2:23 pm
The Giants are one of two teams with most "draft capital" in 2019.

12 total picks, 4 in the first three rounds and a whooping 8 in rounds four-to-seven: #108 (4), #132 (4), #142 (5), #143 (5), #171 (5), #180 (6), #232 (7), #245 (7)

I don't think anyone expects us to make 12 picks. There is a very obvious gap between our pick at #27 (2) and pick #95 (3).

So, the question is: How often do you expect the Giants to jump back into the first three rounds? Or do you expect them to take 4 players only on the first two nights? Do you think they are more likely to move around in Rounds 4-7?

I think we are picking at least 5 players over the course of the first two nights

Although we have a lot of picks  
figgy2989 : 4/23/2019 2:35 pm : link
Most are rounds 4 or later. It is going to take a lot to move up into rounds 2 and 3. I can definitely see him getting creative, but hopefully not leveraging any future draft picks.

Hmmm  
robbieballs2003 : 4/23/2019 2:37 pm : link
Why would some other team  
BillT : 4/23/2019 2:40 pm : link
Want to give away a premium pick for some number of 4th or 5th or 6th round picks. Maybe move up in the 4th or 5th with some additional picks but I doubt some team is giving away a 3rd.
RE: Although we have a lot of picks  
Steve in ATL : 4/23/2019 2:42 pm : link
In comment 14399778 figgy2989 said:
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Most are rounds 4 or later. It is going to take a lot to move up into rounds 2 and 3. I can definitely see him getting creative, but hopefully not leveraging any future draft picks.


I could see him using the 3rd round plus a later pick to move up in the 3rd, and a 4th plus later picks to move up in the 4th.
who knows Ben  
bluetothegrave : 4/23/2019 2:43 pm : link
I love that in what I read and hear people seem to think this draft is seriously deep with the first 140 picks. We have 7 in the top 140. I would be happy sitting tight with every pick. We can draft 12 players..why not? I trust DG and crew have a great idea about talent and how to build a team. The way to win is to get a bunch of cheap controllable guys who are good..lol. I guess thats obvious but to finish the thought...we can right a lot...a lot...maybe all of Reese and ross's wrongs with a super studly draft right here.
I don't really think those 5th round picks hold that much value  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/23/2019 2:43 pm : link
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As many times as he can find partners  
Jay in Toronto : 4/23/2019 2:45 pm : link
The meat of the draft, after the big three is pick 4- through much of the third round.
RE: RE: Although we have a lot of picks  
AcidTest : 4/23/2019 2:47 pm : link
In comment 14399804 Steve in ATL said:
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In comment 14399778 figgy2989 said:


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Most are rounds 4 or later. It is going to take a lot to move up into rounds 2 and 3. I can definitely see him getting creative, but hopefully not leveraging any future draft picks.




I could see him using the 3rd round plus a later pick to move up in the 3rd, and a 4th plus later picks to move up in the 4th.


^This. The day three picks could be used to move up in a round. For example, #95 plus #142 gets you a higher third round pick. But if you want a new third round pick, it would likely take two fourth round picks and a fifth round pick. I'd rather not do that given how many holes we have. Get some depth. That's needed more.
Using A Draft Value Chart  
Trainmaster : 4/23/2019 2:53 pm : link
All the Giants 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th picks add up to 230 points.

230 points is equivalent to Cincinnati's 8th pick in the 3rd round (72nd overall pick).

So all the late picks equal about a early 3rd rounder.

Excluding the 6th pick in the 4th round (108 overall worth 78 points) there are 152 points for all the remaining picks. Add 152 points to our late 3rd rounder (95th overall and 120 points) would only move it up to the last pick in the 2nd round (64th overall).

We really don’t have as much draft capital as you’d think with 12 picks, given so many are late 4th to 7th.



DG said that this draft is rich from rounds 1 through 4  
No Where Man : 4/23/2019 3:41 pm : link
I can see us moving up to Round 4 using our later picks.
Giants have 18 holes on the roster  
NikkiMac : 4/23/2019 5:07 pm : link
To get to 90 last I looked , I’d guess they will sign 8 draft picks 8 restricted FA and 2 vets give or take .........
2 moves that really makes sense  
dd in Mass : 4/23/2019 5:15 pm : link
One is to move back using either #17 or #37. You move back 4-7 spots and you can pick up a 3rd or 4th.

The second is to package a 4th 5th and a 7th and move into the late 3rd or early 4th.

We need at least 2-3 more picks in the sweet spot 40-100
Right now the Giants have 6 picks through four Rounds  
Torrag : 4/23/2019 6:02 pm : link
I think they'd be ok with that if they can maneuver to close the current gap they have between picks #37 and #95. There are several scenarios that can accomplish the goal.
Moving up from 95  
GothamGiants : 4/23/2019 6:48 pm : link
and / or an additional 3rd rounder in a deal for the 4s/5s can make sense

95 and a 4/5 for the Jets 3 for example - they want more picks
I could see a few scenarios  
TD : 4/23/2019 7:25 pm : link
1) we move up from 17 and package our pick with a 3 plus. Maybe even the 2 if we’re confident we can package our other picks to pick up an extra 2 or 3.

2) we pick up an extra 3 by packaging 2-3 of our mid round picks.

3) we package 95 (or 108) with 1-2 of our mid round picks to move up in round 3.
And to answer the question  
TD : 4/23/2019 7:28 pm : link
One.
RE: Using A Draft Value Chart  
AcidTest : 4/23/2019 7:42 pm : link
In comment 14399840 Trainmaster said:
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All the Giants 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th picks add up to 230 points.

230 points is equivalent to Cincinnati's 8th pick in the 3rd round (72nd overall pick).

So all the late picks equal about a early 3rd rounder.

Excluding the 6th pick in the 4th round (108 overall worth 78 points) there are 152 points for all the remaining picks. Add 152 points to our late 3rd rounder (95th overall and 120 points) would only move it up to the last pick in the 2nd round (64th overall).

We really don’t have as much draft capital as you’d think with 12 picks, given so many are late 4th to 7th.




Excellent analysis.
The answer  
XBRONX : 4/23/2019 7:50 pm : link
is none.
Bears and Seahawks  
WillVAB : 4/23/2019 8:01 pm : link
Both don’t have many picks. Both seem like good candidates to trade a handful of later picks for their 3rd.
Actually would like them to trade a 5th round pick for a  
Watson : 4/23/2019 8:29 pm : link
next year’s 4th. Would set them up next year with 2 picks in both the 3rd and the 4th round.
If the Giants want more quality picks, they can trade back.  
Boy Cord : 12:18 am : link
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