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Giants create cap space

Diesel_giants : 4/24/2019 7:09 am
They have converted 7.5M of zietler salary into a bonus creating 5M in cap space... per @Fieldyates on twitter
If the additional space was not needed for rookies...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/24/2019 7:18 am : link
... This might signal something fun.
Interesting. This wasn't necessary for signing draft picks.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/24/2019 7:19 am : link
And even after signing the rookies, they would still have pocket change to fill in the bottom of the roster with guys who might not even count against the Top 51.

Remmers is the obvious thought. I doubt it has anything to do with Rosen, since his contract only calls for about $1.3MM in cash this year.
well..  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/24/2019 7:21 am : link
There are the rumors about a draft day trade involving a player. Interesting.
For what it's worth, Patrick Peterson is due $11.25MM in 2019.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/24/2019 7:21 am : link
If a team acquired him, they would likely rework his contract, though he is signed through 2020.
hmmmmm  
GiantsRage2007 : 4/24/2019 7:30 am : link
Either a trade or they are extending a contract...not sure who's up to be extended... interesting right before draft day

Let the fun begin!!
I'm pretty sure they needed space for rookies  
ZogZerg : 4/24/2019 7:32 am : link
Obviously, this move didn't have to happen right now for that.
I don't think this is anything.
RE: I'm pretty sure they needed space for rookies  
Brown_Hornet : 4/24/2019 7:34 am : link
In comment 14400786 ZogZerg said:
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Obviously, this move didn't have to happen right now for that.
I don't think this is anything.

Zog, It's the day before the draft.
It's our responsibility to turn it into something.
;)
David Carr on the way?  
yatqb : 4/24/2019 7:35 am : link
OK, not likely.
Extending Eli  
Jimmy Googs : 4/24/2019 7:41 am : link
being announced later today...
RE: Extending Eli  
bw in dc : 4/24/2019 7:48 am : link
In comment 14400798 Jimmy Googs said:
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being announced later today...


Cant tell if youre kidding, but this is where I landed.

Im sure Jints Central is thinking this: if Pittsburgh can extend Roethlisberger, then we should obviously extend Eli.
Rosen and Peterson  
Chip : 4/24/2019 7:50 am : link
for 17?? Just speculating
RE: I'm pretty sure they needed space for rookies  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/24/2019 7:51 am : link
ZogZerg said:
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Obviously, this move didn't have to happen right now for that. I don't think this is anything.
I stand corrected. You're right - I didn't factor in the high cost associated with where the Giants are picking.
RE: well..  
Philu916 : 4/24/2019 7:55 am : link
In comment 14400774 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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There are the rumors about a draft day trade involving a player. Interesting.

What player? Rosen?
RE: Extending Eli  
Philu916 : 4/24/2019 7:56 am : link
In comment 14400798 Jimmy Googs said:
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being announced later today...

Are you being serious? No way can he make $20M+ for 2 more years...
according to NFLPA  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/24/2019 7:58 am : link
his 2019 salary feel from $10,000,000 to $2,500,000.
RE: RE: Extending Eli  
Big Rick in FL : 4/24/2019 8:02 am : link
In comment 14400806 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14400798 Jimmy Googs said:


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being announced later today...



Cant tell if youre kidding, but this is where I landed.

Im sure Jints Central is thinking this: if Pittsburgh can extend Roethlisberger, then we should obviously extend Eli.


They wouldn't be opening up cap space to extend Eli. Extending Eli would open up cap space.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/24/2019 8:04 am : link

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Giants now have $14.5M in cap space. About double what they need for the draft class. Plenty of room to add vets post-draft/in-season
RE: RE: RE: Extending Eli  
Big Blue '56 : 4/24/2019 8:04 am : link
In comment 14400832 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 14400806 bw in dc said:


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In comment 14400798 Jimmy Googs said:


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being announced later today...



Cant tell if youre kidding, but this is where I landed.

Im sure Jints Central is thinking this: if Pittsburgh can extend Roethlisberger, then we should obviously extend Eli.



They wouldn't be opening up cap space to extend Eli. Extending Eli would open up cap space.


Bingo
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christian : 4/24/2019 8:10 am : link
This was speculated as an option when he was acquired, shouldn't be any surprise.

Gives the Giants the option to spend on this year's roster or just roll into next year with no effective consequence.

Post-draft the Giants almost certainly will add vets at OL and secondary though. The depth is scary thin.
This quote from Gettleman stood out to me regarding the Beckham trade  
robbieballs2003 : 4/24/2019 8:17 am : link
He said something like we got at least 3 players for Beckham. It was weird at the time but made sense of we traded one of the picks for more picks and/or players. Nobody believes it because "Gettleman has never traded back" in any draft although I don't think that is a definitive statement since the sample size is small.
Maybe Remmers  
Beer Man : 4/24/2019 8:17 am : link
is healthy and close to signing
RE: This quote from Gettleman stood out to me regarding the Beckham trade  
Milton : 4/24/2019 8:21 am : link
In comment 14400854 robbieballs2003 said:
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He said something like we got at least 3 players for Beckham. It was weird at the time but made sense of we traded one of the picks for more picks and/or players.
I think the "at least" was a reference to the fact that they also swapped the 155th pick for the 134th pick in the trade. So that counts for a piece of a player!
RE: Rosen and Peterson  
Jay in Toronto : 4/24/2019 8:31 am : link
In comment 14400809 Chip said:
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for 17?? Just speculating


That's what I was thinking. There may be other picks as well but allows AZ to save face.

This was completely expected  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/24/2019 8:34 am : link
when the trade happened. Not much to read into this. He did the same thing with Olgetree's contract last year.
If they thought Eli were going to be here in 2020, they"d extend him  
WillieYoung : 4/24/2019 9:00 am : link
If they don 't expect him back, an extension does little good because any cap space you clear this year you lose next year.
I don't know if anything is cooking  
Matt in SGS : 4/24/2019 9:01 am : link
but since it was a foregone conclusion they were going to do this with Zietler anyway, to do it now makes sense just in case something does pop up over the course of the next 72 hours or so and they have a chance to land a player in a trade.
Interesting.  
AcidTest : 4/24/2019 9:03 am : link
But as others have said, this was expected when we traded for Zeitler. The question is the timing, and whether it indicates that we will execute a trade tomorrow that involves a player.
RE: Rosen and Peterson  
FranknWeezer : 4/24/2019 9:29 am : link
In comment 14400809 Chip said:
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for 17?? Just speculating


Could Engram be part of that, too?
RE: For what it's worth, Patrick Peterson is due $11.25MM in 2019.  
eric2425ny : 4/24/2019 9:30 am : link
In comment 14400775 Big Blue Blogger said:
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If a team acquired him, they would likely rework his contract, though he is signed through 2020.


If they somehow worked a trade to get Peterson and Rosen for 17, and another pick or two I would be ecstatic. Peterson and Jenkins would be the best corner duo in the league. And wed still get a blue chip prospect at 6.
RE: I don't know if anything is cooking  
Giantz_comeback : 4/24/2019 9:31 am : link
In comment 14400944 Matt in SGS said:
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but since it was a foregone conclusion they were going to do this with Zietler anyway, to do it now makes sense just in case something does pop up over the course of the next 72 hours or so and they have a chance to land a player in a trade.


The timing of it could mean we have come to an agreement for a trade and not just signing Remmers. We'll see.

Of course Peterson would be a move we'd all love to see and could make Janoris expendable next year.
Jimmy Googs  
Bill in UT : 4/24/2019 9:50 am : link
You're way too subtle for some folks :)
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BleedBlue : 4/24/2019 10:24 am : link
Peterson and Rosen makes SO much sense for giants
Peterson  
GothamGiants : 4/24/2019 10:43 am : link
28, graded as top 5 CB last year ... make it happen Dave
RE: RE: Extending Eli  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/24/2019 10:45 am : link
In comment 14400806 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14400798 Jimmy Googs said:


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being announced later today...



Cant tell if youre kidding, but this is where I landed.

Im sure Jints Central is thinking this: if Pittsburgh can extend Roethlisberger, then we should obviously extend Eli.

Even if that were true, the Giants wouldn't need to create cap space for it - an extension would very likely reduce Eli's cap number, not increase it.

The Peterson idea is interesting. Or maybe DeForest Buckner?
RE: RE: RE: Extending Eli  
GothamGiants : 4/24/2019 10:47 am : link
In comment 14401273 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 14400806 bw in dc said:


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In comment 14400798 Jimmy Googs said:


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being announced later today...



Cant tell if youre kidding, but this is where I landed.

Im sure Jints Central is thinking this: if Pittsburgh can extend Roethlisberger, then we should obviously extend Eli.


Even if that were true, the Giants wouldn't need to create cap space for it - an extension would very likely reduce Eli's cap number, not increase it.

The Peterson idea is interesting. Or maybe DeForest Buckner?


Buckner is my dream acquisition, and theres been dialogue between the teams on him before ... PP would also be an excellent get. Only 28, still an elite CB
Maybe lure Stew out of retirement?  
Vanzetti : 4/24/2019 11:06 am : link
j/k :)))
RE: RE: RE: Extending Eli  
Giantz_comeback : 4/24/2019 11:12 am : link
In comment 14401273 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 14400806 bw in dc said:


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In comment 14400798 Jimmy Googs said:


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being announced later today...



Cant tell if youre kidding, but this is where I landed.

Im sure Jints Central is thinking this: if Pittsburgh can extend Roethlisberger, then we should obviously extend Eli.


Even if that were true, the Giants wouldn't need to create cap space for it - an extension would very likely reduce Eli's cap number, not increase it.

The Peterson idea is interesting. Or maybe DeForest Buckner?


Wonder the cost for either. Buckner is made expendable most likely if we see Niners go Q at 2.

Would either cost 17 minumum? Could they be had with 37 or a future pick(s)?

Great questions, we gonna find out soon...
RE: RE: RE: RE: Extending Eli  
Giantz_comeback : 4/24/2019 11:13 am : link
In comment 14401286 GothamGiants said:
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In comment 14401273 Gatorade Dunk said:


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In comment 14400806 bw in dc said:


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In comment 14400798 Jimmy Googs said:


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being announced later today...



Cant tell if youre kidding, but this is where I landed.

Im sure Jints Central is thinking this: if Pittsburgh can extend Roethlisberger, then we should obviously extend Eli.


Even if that were true, the Giants wouldn't need to create cap space for it - an extension would very likely reduce Eli's cap number, not increase it.

The Peterson idea is interesting. Or maybe DeForest Buckner?



Buckner is my dream acquisition, and theres been dialogue between the teams on him before ... PP would also be an excellent get. Only 28, still an elite CB


PP may be the better get as we need a 'lead dog' corner and this draft has a ton of DTs (and may get one at 6).
Giants Trade  
PaulN : 4/24/2019 11:21 am : link
Pick 17, Janoris Jenkins, and Evan Engram for the Cards third round pick, Patrick Peterson, and Josh Rosen. That is a nice exchange, but only a dream or wish.
Rethinking  
PaulN : 4/24/2019 11:29 am : link
Giants first trade back to 19, add a mid third rounder, then make it the 19th pick instead of the 17th, then we still have a second, 3 thirds, and 2 forths. I love rounds 2 thru 4 in this draft, even the Giants first 5th rounder could be a real player.
RE: RE: Extending Eli  
Jimmy Googs : 4/24/2019 11:31 am : link
In comment 14400823 Philu916 said:
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In comment 14400798 Jimmy Googs said:


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being announced later today...


Are you being serious? No way can he make $20M+ for 2 more years...


jut kidding folks

lord...
RE: Maybe lure Stew out of retirement?  
Jimmy Googs : 4/24/2019 11:33 am : link
In comment 14401338 Vanzetti said:
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j/k :)))


Now that's a distinct possibility...
RE: Giants Trade  
Toth029 : 4/24/2019 2:18 pm : link
In comment 14401378 PaulN said:
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Pick 17, Janoris Jenkins, and Evan Engram for the Cards third round pick, Patrick Peterson, and Josh Rosen. That is a nice exchange, but only a dream or wish.

I don't know why people want to lose Engram. He can be the team's best receiver for Eli or whatever young QB. Use him right and he's lethal.
For Rosen  
PaulN : 4/24/2019 2:24 pm : link
And you are talking about a tight end that does not fit in this offense, okay then. he is talented, and would fit well on some teams, he doesn't fit this team unless they convert him to a wide receiver, which he never played. He is a nice player, we need a true two way in line blocking tight end, you should know this if you are a Giant fan? Come on.
Reinforcement for the O Line?  
Blue Racer : 4/24/2019 2:42 pm : link
$5 million or so would ad veteran depth for the O line.

Remmers is still out there and maybe there's a last chance for Sullivan to compete for the center slot? That could put the Giants in a better position to not force a "need" pick for the offensive line from Round 3 on.

At any rate, it creates more flexibility, which is always a good thing.
RE: Giants Trade  
Bill L : 4/24/2019 3:12 pm : link
In comment 14401378 PaulN said:
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Pick 17, Janoris Jenkins, and Evan Engram for the Cards third round pick, Patrick Peterson, and Josh Rosen. That is a nice exchange, but only a dream or wish.


OMG, how much do you hate this team?
Engram belongs in NE  
GothamGiants : 4/24/2019 4:03 pm : link
where a creative coaching staff would find ways to exploit his freakish athletic ability

Engram is a weapons, and I really hope they decide to feature him more rather than going back to the stoneages with a 6'5 pocket passer + blocking TE

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