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NFT: Sharks-Golden Knights 3rd period/OT last night

Stu11 : 4/24/2019 8:37 am
Quite literally possibly the wildest back to back periods I have ever seen in the NHL playoffs, especially a game 7. For those that didn't see: the Knights had a 3-0 lead with about 10 minutes to go, they take a 5 minute major for slamming Joe Pavelski to the ice head first. The Sharks score 4 goals during the 5 minutes to take a 4-3 lead. The Knights put on a furious rally for about 4 minutes and finally get the tying goal with about 45 seconds left. The OT is about 18 minutes of back and forth fire wagon hockey and the Sharks finally win it.
Terrible call..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/24/2019 8:40 am : link
that was made based on the outcome rather than the infraction.

Reminds me of lacrosse penalties where flags will literally be thrown only after a player is still on the ground after a hit is made.
It was a really really really bad  
dep026 : 4/24/2019 8:40 am : link
call. It was unfortunate that Pavelski got hurt. There was no call initially either. I think Vegas got the screws there pretty badly.
There was a game in the late 90s similar to this  
BestFeature : 4/24/2019 9:23 am : link
The Blues were losing 3-0 and scored 4 goals on a late 3rd period major, though I think they ended up winning 4-3.
Also I don't think that game was in the playoffs  
BestFeature : 4/24/2019 9:27 am : link
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RE: Terrible call..  
rnargi : 4/24/2019 9:33 am : link
In comment 14400885 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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that was made based on the outcome rather than the infraction.

Reminds me of lacrosse penalties where flags will literally be thrown only after a player is still on the ground after a hit is made.


Agreed...that call is made 0% of the time in regular season hockey, let alone the playoffs. It wasn't even that much of a cross check. Worse is done all game long, from behind, into the boards with no calls. Horrible call.
Even if it was a bad call....  
Metnut : 4/24/2019 9:38 am : link
Vegas didn't have to give up 4 goals in 5 minutes. How about a penalty kill?
I don't know if I necessarily agree that outcomes shouldnt matter  
Essex : 4/24/2019 9:43 am : link
our whole legal system is an outcome-based one. If you hit someone with a bat twice and they die, your penalty will be a lot different than if they suffer a non-serious injury. He definitely cross-checked him in the facial area and you kind of have to live with the results if you want to do that stuff. Vegas also could have killed the penalty. I am normally against the refs, but I am not so sure how much I want to really go to bat over an obvious penalty that was punished more severely (with 5 minutes) than it normally would because of the result. If you don't want that penalty don't do something stupid like that when you have a three goal lead. These Knights saying that it was "stolen" from them is a joke, they could have killed the major or not let up four freaking goals in 6 or 7 minutes.
That's a fringe minor penalty at best.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/24/2019 9:43 am : link
Absolutely brutal call.

But fuck Vegas. They've gotten every single lucky break since entering the league. They deserve to get screwed like every other fanbase. Great team, love the way they play and I don't like SJ at all but that team has literally faqced zero hardship. So, deal with it like the rest of us suffering fans.

Also - fuck the Leafs. lol.
Don't do..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/24/2019 9:45 am : link
something stupid like that??

He hit a guy in the chest like that which happens several times a game.

Why was a penalty called? For one reason - there was blood on the ice, not from the cross-check, but from landing hard.

That's not even a penalty the vast majority of the time, let alone a major.

And it directly led to the outcome of the game being decided.

Same attitude towards that call that I have towards the  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/24/2019 9:47 am : link
lack of a pass interference in the Wild Card game against the 49ers in 2002. Terrible call. Hurt the team and contributed to the loss, but the defensive collapse was far more impactful than the one call. Play even a little defense and you win, both that night and last night. Simple as that.
RE: Don't do..  
Essex : 4/24/2019 9:48 am : link
In comment 14401080 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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something stupid like that??

He hit a guy in the chest like that which happens several times a game.

Why was a penalty called? For one reason - there was blood on the ice, not from the cross-check, but from landing hard.

That's not even a penalty the vast majority of the time, let alone a major.

And it directly led to the outcome of the game being decided.

You have a three goal lead, even Marchessault who was the guy saying the game was stolen said it was a penalty. Also, a cross-check is in the discretion of the refs when to do a major. You want to say its a bad call, fine, but in this world outcomes matter--like it or not. And, if you don't want to put yourself in that position, don't commit the infraction in the first place. Also, do better than letting up 4 freaking goals in that short of a time period.
RE: Even if it was a bad call....  
figgy2989 : 4/24/2019 9:50 am : link
In comment 14401052 Metnut said:
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Vegas didn't have to give up 4 goals in 5 minutes. How about a penalty kill?


This! It was a bad call, but having a three goal lead in a game 7 with ten minutes to go, you don't give up 4 in 5 minutes.

Your team is up by 3  
Gman11 : 4/24/2019 9:55 am : link
and you put yourself in position to get the opponent back in the game by taking a stupid penalty. Even if it wasn't called a major, what was to be advantageous by cross checking Pavelski? At the very least you then give up a power play goal and it's 3-1 and you're losing your momentum.

It was a stupid act by a stupid player. Quit blaming the refs.
Agreed the cross check  
Fast Eddie : 4/24/2019 10:08 am : link
Shouldn’t have been called but Stastny made contact with the head with his right hand which more likely caused the damage. Maybe a butt end?
well as a basketball ref I look at it this way:  
Stu11 : 4/24/2019 11:25 am : link
its similar to a guy going up for a breakaway lay and the defender coming in to make a play on the ball without intent to injur, but knocks the guy into the basket support. The vulnerable position of the player and the result of the play has to be taken into account. Not quite sure what Stastny could do there as it was an awkward play, but he sure as hell helped him to the ice with force. I totally disagree that the isn't even a penalty in the regular season. I'm sorry a guy is slammed to the ice head first with blood involved there's gonna be a penalty. Maybe not 20-30 years ago, but sure as hell today. Maybe Gallant and his scowling ass may have thought to call a timeout with his team in complete meltdown mode?
no way was that a major and for the comments that Vegas  
gtt350 : 4/24/2019 11:43 am : link
gets every break is total BS.
The Kniights are a terrific Hockey team and they got screwed. you also have to realize that the defense was on fumes and couldn't get a change, this off double OT the night before. The refs handed that game to the Sharks who are a goon squad
also Pavlosky was not slammed to the ice  
gtt350 : 4/24/2019 11:49 am : link
it was a cross check to the chest 2 minute minor the fact that he bumped into Stasny was happenstance. Stasny didn't push him down or touch his head
RE: well as a basketball ref I look at it this way:  
schabadoo : 4/24/2019 12:15 pm : link
In comment 14401393 Stu11 said:
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its similar to a guy going up for a breakaway lay and the defender coming in to make a play on the ball without intent to injur, but knocks the guy into the basket support. The vulnerable position of the player and the result of the play has to be taken into account. Not quite sure what Stastny could do there as it was an awkward play, but he sure as hell helped him to the ice with force. I totally disagree that the isn't even a penalty in the regular season. I'm sorry a guy is slammed to the ice head first with blood involved there's gonna be a penalty. Maybe not 20-30 years ago, but sure as hell today. Maybe Gallant and his scowling ass may have thought to call a timeout with his team in complete meltdown mode?


Yeah that's a terrible analogy.

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