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D*niel J*nes in round 1 cannot be real

battttles : 4/24/2019 8:52 pm

Please, let us reset The Simulation before we're swallowed into quarterback hell.


This is the way I see it.  
nowturnyourheadandcoughlin : 4/24/2019 9:02 pm : link
The Giants aren't forcing a QB pick. If he's there at #17 then he's part of the discussion for that pick.

Another thing people should understand is that if several teams like the Dolphins, Redskins, and perhaps even the Raiders take a QB this year. That's one less team to compete with for a QB next year in next year's draft class. Of the teams projected to be the worst teams next year at the top of your list you have teams like the Bills, Jets, Arizona, Dolphins, etc. Teams that will already have their QB of the future on their franchise having spent a 1st round pick them. The Giants will have a ton less competition for getting a QB in 2020 if people go QB crazy in the first round this year.

That's why I think they play it cool with Jones. Where they can sit there at 17 and if he's off the board, neat. Now its going to be even easier to get Tua/Herbert next year. Just take the best player off the board and continue your re-build. Lots of spots needed for this team to have any chance the next couple of years. We know one thing as of right now. Eli is playing this season's schedule. A QB is not a need as of right now adding another one is simply a luxury. But we do need a RT, a 5 tech, and upgrade at LB. Some added CBs for nickle defense.
disagree  
huygens20 : 4/24/2019 9:14 pm : link
I buy the Jones rumors as much as I hate it.


But I think the Giants are willing to draft 1 or 2 or 3 players ahead of Jones. If those guys are off the board, Jones is the pick at #6 and the rest of the draft is defense heavy. Youll see alot of Edge/CB/OLB taken.
forgot.  
huygens20 : 4/24/2019 9:15 pm : link
I think its something like

Q williams
J Allen
N Bosa
E Oliver
D Jones


in that order.
I was told  
Joey in VA : 4/24/2019 9:15 pm : link
That it would be a shock if he was taken at 6
RE: This is the way I see it.  
Danny80 : 4/24/2019 9:19 pm : link
In comment 14402646 nowturnyourheadandcoughlin said:
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The Giants aren't forcing a QB pick. If he's there at #17 then he's part of the discussion for that pick.

Another thing people should understand is that if several teams like the Dolphins, Redskins, and perhaps even the Raiders take a QB this year. That's one less team to compete with for a QB next year in next year's draft class. Of the teams projected to be the worst teams next year at the top of your list you have teams like the Bills, Jets, Arizona, Dolphins, etc. Teams that will already have their QB of the future on their franchise having spent a 1st round pick them. The Giants will have a ton less competition for getting a QB in 2020 if people go QB crazy in the first round this year.

That's why I think they play it cool with Jones. Where they can sit there at 17 and if he's off the board, neat. Now its going to be even easier to get Tua/Herbert next year. Just take the best player off the board and continue your re-build. Lots of spots needed for this team to have any chance the next couple of years. We know one thing as of right now. Eli is playing this season's schedule. A QB is not a need as of right now adding another one is simply a luxury. But we do need a RT, a 5 tech, and upgrade at LB. Some added CBs for nickle defense.


I'm starting to feel like all the QBs are going to slide, maybe beginning with Murray. I think teams will ultimately decide that this QB draft class just isn't that good and the defensive talent is strong throughout the first round.
I'm starting to be a little pessimistic.  
FStubbs : 4/24/2019 9:20 pm : link
I think the Giants might actually have Daniel Jones at the top of their board and they'd take him #1 overall if they had that pick.
RE: I was told  
FrankieR : 4/24/2019 9:25 pm : link
In comment 14402676 Joey in VA said:
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That it would be a shock if he was taken at 6


It would shock me....and I like him.

We can draft a lot of good players this year and then fork over a ton of picks to mive up for a QB next year.

I think DG finishes his goal of the front 7s and we have to extend Eli a few years until we can draft a guy.
I  
AcidTest : 4/24/2019 9:37 pm : link
think Murray, Haskins, Lock, and Jones will all go in the top 15. Teams typically overvalue QBs. This year is no different. The question is whether the Giants will trade up from #17. I hope they do not, because doing so will cost at least #37. DG has said he wants more picks in rounds two and three.
I'd give Jones serious consideration...  
Torrag : 4/24/2019 9:39 pm : link
...at #37.
Please... no!!!  
chitt17 : 4/24/2019 9:41 pm : link
Trade for Rosen.... keep the two 1st round picks.
The closer we get to draft day  
Leg of Theismann : 4/24/2019 9:41 pm : link
the more I'm pretty sure that DG is going to piss me off royally (somehow). I don't know how, but somehow.
Why the picture?  
Leg of Theismann : 4/24/2019 9:42 pm : link
Is that Darnold? Why?
RE: The closer we get to draft day  
Pork Chop : 4/24/2019 9:48 pm : link
In comment 14402731 Leg of Theismann said:
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the more I'm pretty sure that DG is going to piss me off royally (somehow). I don't know how, but somehow.


Same! And I am a DG apologist!
Drafting Jones at 6 or 17 sets this  
Chris L. : 4/24/2019 10:02 pm : link
franchise back five years! If he gets picked in the first round he gets at least three years to fail. Also with any QB pick in the first round you are out on all the top QB prospects for next year as well. This guy was a walk on who was not a big time prospect coming out of high school. On top of that no year above 3,000 yards and 59% completions for his career. Picking this guy in the first round is GM suicide!
Drafting Jones at 6 or 17 sets this  
Chris L. : 4/24/2019 10:02 pm : link
franchise back five years! If he gets picked in the first round he gets at least three years to fail. Also with any QB pick in the first round you are out on all the top QB prospects for next year as well. This guy was a walk on who was not a big time prospect coming out of high school. On top of that no year above 3,000 yards and 59% completions for his career. Picking this guy in the first round is GM suicide!
Please pick two defenders  
Chris L. : 4/24/2019 10:04 pm : link
in first round and trade for Rosen!
Grow up and get over yourself.  
Brown Recluse : 4/24/2019 10:12 pm : link
You sound like a child.
They will pick whoever the hell they want.  
Giant John : 4/24/2019 10:22 pm : link
When they want. Get over it and stop the crybaby crap.
RE: This is the way I see it.  
Hsilwek92 : 12:36 am : link
In comment 14402646 nowturnyourheadandcoughlin said:
Quote:
The Giants aren't forcing a QB pick. If he's there at #17 then he's part of the discussion for that pick.

Another thing people should understand is that if several teams like the Dolphins, Redskins, and perhaps even the Raiders take a QB this year. That's one less team to compete with for a QB next year in next year's draft class. Of the teams projected to be the worst teams next year at the top of your list you have teams like the Bills, Jets, Arizona, Dolphins, etc. Teams that will already have their QB of the future on their franchise having spent a 1st round pick them. The Giants will have a ton less competition for getting a QB in 2020 if people go QB crazy in the first round this year.

That's why I think they play it cool with Jones. Where they can sit there at 17 and if he's off the board, neat. Now its going to be even easier to get Tua/Herbert next year. Just take the best player off the board and continue your re-build. Lots of spots needed for this team to have any chance the next couple of years. We know one thing as of right now. Eli is playing this season's schedule. A QB is not a need as of right now adding another one is simply a luxury. But we do need a RT, a 5 tech, and upgrade at LB. Some added CBs for nickle defense.


Shut up. You know nothing, dupe.
RE: I'm starting to be a little pessimistic.  
In comment 14402690 FStubbs said:
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I think the Giants might actually have Daniel Jones at the top of their board and they'd take him #1 overall if they had that pick.


Scary thought.
RE: RE: I'm starting to be a little pessimistic.  
In comment 14403133 Giantz_comeback said:
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In comment 14402690 FStubbs said:


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I think the Giants might actually have Daniel Jones at the top of their board and they'd take him #1 overall if they had that pick.



Scary thought.


Best take on Eli Jones Ive seen. Very much in line with Sys review

Don't do it Gettleman


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