[img]“When a team wins a championship, a Super Bowl, they always got a great middle linebacker,” White said. “You want to win, get you a great middle linebacker.”
Did general manager Dave Gettleman hear that?
“[That’s] what I told him,” White said with a big smile while standing on the field Wednesday at Nissan Stadium.
If Gettleman was convinced, White could be his pick at No. 6, which would make him the franchise’s first linebacker taken in the first round since Carl Banks in 1984.[/img]
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The bit about great middle linebackers simply isn't true. As an example, the 2002 Tampa defense carried the Bucs to a championship. Yet somehow, there's no bust of Shelton Quarles in Canton. And of course there's Blackburn, who made one play. A wonderful, memorable play, but still...
White next to Ogletree at ILB gives this defense an entirely different look.
Same. The difference in football IQ is obvious. Value wise it’s a no brainer. White is a freak athlete who reacts. Bush is just a smart player who’s in a way a tougher tackler. He does often hit a little too high with his pad level. I believe he’s the son of a coach which is usually a good thing.
I wonder if White knows the Giants play a base 3-4. Doesn't really matter. Playing all three downs, he would be a significant upgrade, wherever they put him.
Re nitpicking, true dat.
Boley was the best LB in the 2011 run.
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But it’s fair to say the Giants have always had a top MLB when they’ve won the SB...Carson, Pepper, Pierce...then somehow Blackburn played like one in the 2011 playoffs
Boley was the best LB in the 2011 run.
Agreed
Blackburn was a much better player than given credit for. I remember his rookie preseason being amazed at his field awareness. He was (obviously) somewhat athletically limited but he compensated with instincts and 100% knowing his role in the defense. He was a guy that really made the most of what he had.
Then they can have him. He's good, but not good enough to warrant a trade up. Especially not when Devin Bush is better anyway.
The bit about great middle linebackers simply isn't true. As an example, the 2002 Tampa defense carried the Bucs to a championship. Yet somehow, there's no bust of Shelton Quarles in Canton. And of course there's Blackburn, who made one play. A wonderful, memorable play, but still...
he’s not viewed as a character red flag. actually the opposite is true.
McGinn, for example, polled 14 execs and 13 chose White as their top Off-ball LB. not one mention of misdemeanor case at age 17 where charges were dropped bc nothing unlawful occurred.
he’ll be hard to pass up at #6, although it appears he’s ticketed for #5.
Bengals are poised to take him at 11. If he’s on the board, he’s their pick
Good chance he goes earlier to Detroit at 8 or Denver at 10 (Fangio-Harbs connection)
Bengals are poised to take him at 11. If he’s on the board, he’s their pick
Good chance he goes earlier to Detroit at 8 or Denver at 10 (Fangio-Harbs connection)
Yes, sadly he will not be there
Now that I think about it, I might draft him just for having the balls to say it.
of course they can
Pierce isn't a HOFer, but he was great when we most needed it in '07.
Not only did he play a huge part in putting our D in the right positions, we don't win the SB in '07 without that HOF caliber play in GB in the conf Title game, when he took on the OLman and tackled the RB, forcing them to kick FG instead of TD. There's probably no OT win without that play.
I've been a fan since mid 80s and that was one of the most important plays by a Giants individual that I've ever seen.
I bet if you ask Tuck whether Antonio Pierce was great in '07, he would say something like hell yes.
And I know Pierce wasn't drafted and Tuck was a 3rd rounder. My point is, saying a player wasn't great because they're not going to the HOF is silly.