What a wild win last night. I am sorry I missed it. Down 5-0 going into the 6th. Pull out a 6-5 win. I love LeMeheiu.
Last night had it all great def by Trout. The hidden ball trick. Winning it in the 9th. This team just keeps winning. We lost so many starters and we keep grinding out wins.
14-10. 6 game win streak. 2nd n the East and only 1.5 games back from the Rays.
Kudos to Cashman and Boone for keeping this tram in it.
I said it on the game thread last night. I don't know if the #'s could work out roster wise but I'd love to keep Urshela around even when most are healthy. His glove and arm are such a plus. 3B will be up in the air all year with Andujar's shoulder so why not keep him around?
Depth is good.
Agreed. Not asking you in general, but is Andujars return a legit possibility at this time? Hes seemingly passed all the baby steps thrown at him thus far. Maybe another few weeks for him?
...very, very easy to root for a team like this with so many subs playing big time ball.
As an aside, I don't think Gary Sanchez is the long term solution at catcher.
Assuming he is on this team long term, I believe the Yankees are gonna have to create a hybrid role for this guy where he DHs a lot; maybe plays first base occasionally; and then catches every 3rd or 4th game. Maybe.
But I know what a competent MLB catcher looks like, and he ain't it. I just hope he becomes a reliable guy with the bat who keeps the strikeouts down to a "tolerable" level.
Bottom line: If this guy becomes a reliable bat in critical game situations, that's plenty good enough for me. And, if not, then who really knows the long term future for this guy? An erratic, unpredictable bat combined with bad catching skills is not a recipe for a long term MLB contract.
Great. Thx..
Swinging the bat isn't going to be a major issue... or an issue at all.
It's... can he throw across the diamond without making the tear worse or aggravating it?
For right now, we actually could DH him often since Voit is the guy in that spot right now with Stanton out.
Voit could just go back to 1B, Miggy could DH, and then we could just squeeze Ford out.
But... the problem is that the tear isn't going to heal with rest. He's going to need to get it repaired eventually. And when he does have the surgery, it's going to take time to rehab and recover. So, if he has it now, it's season over... but if he tries to play again this year, we're kind of prolonging the inevitable.
I hope he comes back this year. But I also realize that Miggy is a young player and they need to do what's best for the long-term and not focus so much on this year with him.
No, he can play all over the infield, excluding !B.
With him at 3B, and LemMahieu at 2B, that has helped
solidify the infield defense. When you make contact at the plate, good things can happen.
I am not sure why they haven't had Andujar have surgery,
a torn labrum is not going to repair. Lets say he is down
in Tampa or a rehab assignment elsewhere, what happens
when he dives for balls at 3b? I think they are just delaying the inevitable, which would mean he is out even longer next season.
I am just being pragmatic,
have seen this movie before a few times...
Sure he may able to DH, but long term, that would be a better solution.
Is he even worth signing to a long term deal for big money? I say not right now. He is injured often. His numbers stink. Move on at the end and get a complete pick or if you can trade him do it.
He needs to hit the crap out of the ball for a few years and stay healthy before I throw big money his way.
Stanton strain has healed, but he had to receive a cortisone shot for unrelated shoulder discomfort. Consequently, his return is being delayed.
What a year this has been.
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Is he even worth signing to a long term deal for big money? I say not right now. He is injured often. His numbers stink. Move on at the end and get a complete pick or if you can trade him do it.
He needs to hit the crap out of the ball for a few years and stay healthy before I throw big money his way.
His numbers stink?
Yeah, a 1.065 OPS is real shitty...
Some of you guys have bizarre takes on Sanchez. I don't get it.
...very, very easy to root for a team like this with so many subs playing big time ball.
As an aside, I don't think Gary Sanchez is the long term solution at catcher.
Assuming he is on this team long term, I believe the Yankees are gonna have to create a hybrid role for this guy where he DHs a lot; maybe plays first base occasionally; and then catches every 3rd or 4th game. Maybe.
But I know what a competent MLB catcher looks like, and he ain't it. I just hope he becomes a reliable guy with the bat who keeps the strikeouts down to a "tolerable" level.
Bottom line: If this guy becomes a reliable bat in critical game situations, that's plenty good enough for me. And, if not, then who really knows the long term future for this guy? An erratic, unpredictable bat combined with bad catching skills is not a recipe for a long term MLB contract.
Keep in mind, they put up with Posada here as a catcher.
The 2nd half of his career, he wasn't very good behind the plate. He had a lot of passed balls.
I think Sanchez is the type of player, that
you have to stay on him about his work habits.
If he doesn't improve and become average at least, they
may have to do something in the future? At least he can
throw when he is right.
And the Yanks would be a much worse team for it, so they'd move onto the next erroneous thing to bitch about. Like Chapman being very unreliable...
I would have traded Sanchez for him in a NY minute.
He would have helped to sell seats in that market down
in South Beach, saying helped, cuz they don't draw well.
I am not sure the Fish would have made that deal,
with Sanchez coming off a down year.
That doesn't mean I hate El Gary, it's just business.
Agree. Of all the bats we've lost, I think we've missed Miggy's the least because Urshela is so plus defensively at 3B, and he's not too bad at the plate. Guy can play.
That said, couldn't be happier with how the team is battling and grinding out wins in the meantime.
That said, couldn't be happier with how the team is battling and grinding out wins in the meantime.
Boone already answered that question. They said they didn't like the non-progression in the ankle which sparked the MRI. As for the pinch running, who knows. Could have just been PR to say he's available.
I highly, highly doubt that a team doctor/trainer wouldn't be able to diagnose a sprain, which is what would have to happen if we are going to question the medical staff.
I simply think this is just really bad luck.
A few years ago, the warriors had been one of the most injured teams in the NFL. They brought in a new S&C guy and a new trainer and they were one of the healthiest. The following year, they went back to being one of the most injured.
The only time there has been a correlation to injury was in relation to the playing surfaces. It was one of the main drivers of going away from carpeting on concrete to the FieldTurf we see today.
Hell, Stanton is another one... his bicep fully healed, now he's getting a cortisone shot in his shoulder?
How are guys getting injured while they're rehabbing?
Severino was hurt before he ever even took the mound in the Spring. Literally was scheduled to make his first start and got scratched right before it.
Injuries like Andujar or Frazier... I can understand those. They slide into these bags with no give and get jammed and get hurt. Frazier's sliding technique is bad - he needs to fix that. But that's not the point... those injuries make sense.
Betances, I don't know... I guess he altered his pre-season prep on his own accord because he had a kid, etc. But that shouldn't be an excuse. Hicks' back issue seemed to just crop up out of nowhere, too.
I feel like I brought the Mets training staff to the Bronx with me... it's almost hard to believe. But, the Yanks just keep winning and like I keep saying... if they can just hang in there until a bunch of the reinforcements return, I think this will be beneficial in the end because it'll boost the value of a lot of guys and will add depth by way of the Urshela's, Tauchman's, Ford's etc. getting MLB PT and experience.
I would have the injured guys back yesterday if I had my way. But part of me is enjoying this adversity and the way the Yanks just keep finding ways and won't give up. Some major character/team building stuff here.
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...very, very easy to root for a team like this with so many subs playing big time ball.
As an aside, I don't think Gary Sanchez is the long term solution at catcher.
Assuming he is on this team long term, I believe the Yankees are gonna have to create a hybrid role for this guy where he DHs a lot; maybe plays first base occasionally; and then catches every 3rd or 4th game. Maybe.
But I know what a competent MLB catcher looks like, and he ain't it. I just hope he becomes a reliable guy with the bat who keeps the strikeouts down to a "tolerable" level.
Bottom line: If this guy becomes a reliable bat in critical game situations, that's plenty good enough for me. And, if not, then who really knows the long term future for this guy? An erratic, unpredictable bat combined with bad catching skills is not a recipe for a long term MLB contract.
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Keep in mind, they put up with Posada here as a catcher.
The 2nd half of his career, he wasn't very good behind the plate. He had a lot of passed balls.
I think Sanchez is the type of player, that
you have to stay on him about his work habits.
If he doesn't improve and become average at least, they
may have to do something in the future? At least he can
throw when he is right.
Can you compare Sanchez with Posada? Kinda like two totally different temperaments. Posada was one of the unspoken leaders on those great Yankees teams, and if he ever thought someone was lollygagging, taking it easy, etc., he would get in their face. That ain't Sanchez. Very different dudes.
I just don't know what to think of Sanchez... sure I love the tatters when he's on a hot streak. But this dude will just cost us games behind the plate. His cannon arm down to 2nd base doesn't mean jack-shit when he can't catch/field the ball.
IMO, I think there are loads of Yankee fans who have NOT taken a long, hard, cold look at this player. His power is the seduction and so a lot gets glossed over. I still think it's 50-50 whether or not Cashman signs this guy to a long-term contract. And it may be less than 50% chance.
Injuries of the Stanton and Judge variety are the hardest ones for me to understand. It's tough to have key sluggers go down just from swinging a bat. They have to swing a bat. It's their job. They can't be pulling and straining muscles that way.
And for Stanton to somehow develop a new shoulder injury while he's on the IL... I just can't understand that.
I don't think Romine is anything "special" behind the plate, but it only takes an inning or two watching him receive the ball vs Gary Sanchez to realize that the latter is a minus MLB catcher. That's just the way it is. Love Gary's power (when he's hot), but there's very little else about this young man's game that is worth watching. Of all the young stars on this very fine Yankees team, it's my bet that he will be somewhere else one day.
The Stanton thing is strange, I will say that.
If anything, it seems like people complaining about Sanchez haven't taken the look.
His power numbers are excellent. And his behind the plate fielding is overblown. I mean - it is even alluded to above that his defense is costing them games. GAMES???
Where's the "hard, cold look" to back that up?
2017 - oblique
2018 - intercostal (whatever that is)
Not back per se, but core, and core and back have some correlation based on my experience with them.
If there's an issue - it is in technique, which is a coaching issue, not a training one.
Power hitters these days generate so much torque in their swing to deliver the power. It is what sets them apart as players, but also heightens their risk for oblique, back and arm injuries. We aren't talking about guys casually swinging away like they are Mark Belanger. They are taking some serious hacks!
And the Yanks would be a much worse team for it, so they'd move onto the next erroneous thing to bitch about. Like Chapman being very unreliable...
I do enjoy a good hot pretzel.
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Injuries of the Stanton and Judge variety are the hardest ones for me to understand. It's tough to have key sluggers go down just from swinging a bat. They have to swing a bat. It's their job. They can't be pulling and straining muscles that way.
If there's an issue - it is in technique, which is a coaching issue, not a training one.
Power hitters these days generate so much torque in their swing to deliver the power. It is what sets them apart as players, but also heightens their risk for oblique, back and arm injuries. We aren't talking about guys casually swinging away like they are Mark Belanger. They are taking some serious hacks!
I guess my thinking is that maybe they're not loose enough or not doing the proper stretching/prep and these muscles are grabbing and pulling in some of the colder weather on hard swings.
You're more well-versed in this stuff than I am, so I'll default on that.
I just see this IL list for this team and it seems nearly impossible to happen organically without some sort of contributing issue somewhere internally.... but maybe it really just is terrible, terrible luck.
As you mentioned above, the ankle injuries are a baseball thing sliding into stationary objects. When OF guys crash into a wall or tarp and get injured, that may be an issue with technique, but it also is just an aspect of the game.
I detailed the swing issues above - and those would apply to Hicks, Stanton and Judge (and likely to Sanchez too). Pitching injuries are a crapshoot.
It does suck because the injuries seem so clustered, but I don't think you can point to anything from a training standpoint that is a glaring cause.
Following Wednesdays game, the Yankees optioned RHP Jonathan Loaisiga to Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.
On the other hand, the corner OF spots and 1B, we're sort of playing the "third string" right now.
Makes the wins that much sweeter.
I'm going to miss RAB sooooooo much
He was really hesitant in LF, too. Both of those Pujols bloops probably could have been caught if he had a good first step/angle. Especially the first one. He just stood there and let it drop 5 feet in front of him.
His versatility and speed are valuable... I just wish the guy could hit.
There has been plenty of data that shows that Sanchez is one of the better catchers in baseball defensively. Literally the only negative to that part of his game is the occasional passed ball. Last year, David Cone was doing one of the telecasts laughing at people that continue to shit on Sanchez defense. He said that Sanchez checks out as well above average in every defensive metric but passed balls, and even elite in things like pitch framing.
Yet, fans watching from their couch continue to act like they know what the hell their talking about and kill Sanchez daily. Yankees fans always need a punching bag. Sanchez and Boone are somehow the lucky winners the past couple of years...
I'd heard of it for a while but unfortunately didn't start daily reading until the 2016 sell-off. I guess I'll reach the archives once it goes. There's no other blog like it
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Sanchez calls a better game, frames better, and throws infinitely better. Did you notice how teams were running wild on Romine and Higashioka?
There has been plenty of data that shows that Sanchez is one of the better catchers in baseball defensively. Literally the only negative to that part of his game is the occasional passed ball. Last year, David Cone was doing one of the telecasts laughing at people that continue to shit on Sanchez defense. He said that Sanchez checks out as well above average in every defensive metric but passed balls, and even elite in things like pitch framing.
Yet, fans watching from their couch continue to act like they know what the hell their talking about and kill Sanchez daily. Yankees fans always need a punching bag. Sanchez and Boone are somehow the lucky winners the past couple of years...
Too lazy to post defensive stats, but let's just look at our cross-town rival, the New York Mets.
Their catcher, Travis d'Arnaud, has made 19 Errors in his career out of 3,216 Total Chances. Gary Sanchez: 27 Errors in 2,208 chances.
Here's the AL East (Career Totals):
Baltimore Jess Sucre 7 Errors in 1,772 Total Chances
Tampa Bay's Mike Zunino 22 Errors in 4,809 Total Chances
Boston's Christian Vzquez 18 Errors in 2,515 Total Chances
Toronto's Danny Jansen 3 Errors in 332 Total Chances
Toronto's Luke Maile 14 Errors in 1,381 Total Chances
THAT'S JUST THE AL EAST.
I'll repeat what I said earlier. Out of all the very fine young players that wear Pinstripes, it is my opinion that Gary Sanchez could well be the player that is not offered a long-term contract from Cashman.
Again - how many losses does that translate to? And how many wins does he contribute to?
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Sanchez calls a better game, frames better, and throws infinitely better. Did you notice how teams were running wild on Romine and Higashioka?
There has been plenty of data that shows that Sanchez is one of the better catchers in baseball defensively. Literally the only negative to that part of his game is the occasional passed ball. Last year, David Cone was doing one of the telecasts laughing at people that continue to shit on Sanchez defense. He said that Sanchez checks out as well above average in every defensive metric but passed balls, and even elite in things like pitch framing.
Yet, fans watching from their couch continue to act like they know what the hell their talking about and kill Sanchez daily. Yankees fans always need a punching bag. Sanchez and Boone are somehow the lucky winners the past couple of years...
Too lazy to post defensive stats, but let's just look at our cross-town rival, the New York Mets.
Their catcher, Travis d'Arnaud, has made 19 Errors in his career out of 3,216 Total Chances. Gary Sanchez: 27 Errors in 2,208 chances.
Here's the AL East (Career Totals):
Baltimore Jess Sucre 7 Errors in 1,772 Total Chances
Tampa Bay's Mike Zunino 22 Errors in 4,809 Total Chances
Boston's Christian Vzquez 18 Errors in 2,515 Total Chances
Toronto's Danny Jansen 3 Errors in 332 Total Chances
Toronto's Luke Maile 14 Errors in 1,381 Total Chances
THAT'S JUST THE AL EAST.
I'll repeat what I said earlier. Out of all the very fine young players that wear Pinstripes, it is my opinion that Gary Sanchez could well be the player that is not offered a long-term contract from Cashman.
So in a world where errors are the only measure of defensive ability and all catchers are of equal ability at the plate, your post holds water.
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You can be a jackass. They were running on the pitchers. Coney clearly said that. Also, Cone said Romine is the better catcher. Romine sucked two games in a row, true. But comes down to whether people trust your opinion or Cone's. I think I would take Cone's.
Definitely not anti-Gary.
When this guy is hot, no ballpark can hold him back.
But he is streaky... and he is a significant defensive liability behind the plate.
Again - how many losses does that translate to? And how many wins does he contribute to?
Ahhh got it. Just let me know what source contains such information and will be glad to dig out the answer for you.
Which major league team averages the highest velocity on their pitches?
Which major league team averages the most number of curving pitch types? (Sliders, Sinkers, Curveballs and Cutters)
Does late sudden movement on fast pitches correlate to making them hard to catch cleanly?
Thanks for making analytically sound observations
Which major league team averages the highest velocity on their pitches?
Which major league team averages the most number of curving pitch types? (Sliders, Sinkers, Curveballs and Cutters)
Does late sudden movement on fast pitches correlate to making them hard to catch cleanly?
Thanks for making analytically sound observations
Since when were catchers' defensive stats adjusted by all the criteria you've listed? And what source do you know about for such Sabermetrics?
In the meantime, let's keep all of your criteria constant as best we can by simply comparing Sanchez with another Yankee who has to deal with the same staff:
Gary Sanchez: 27 Errors in 2,208 chances (.988 Fielding Pct.)
Austin Romine: 10 Errors in 2,150 chances (0.995 Fielding Pct.)
In the meantime, let's keep all of your criteria constant as best we can by simply comparing Sanchez with another Yankee who has to deal with the same staff:
Gary Sanchez: 27 Errors in 2,208 chances (.988 Fielding Pct.)
Austin Romine: 10 Errors in 2,150 chances (0.995 Fielding Pct.)
CS%: Romine 21%, Sanchez 35%
rCERA (which is a measure of a catcher's game calling by comparing pitcher performance with that catcher vs other catchers): Sanchez, career total of 7, never been negative (2016 0, 2017 3, 2018 3, 2019 1); Romine, career total of -4.
DRS (Defensive Runs Saved, measures how many runs less/more a player allows than the average at his position): Sanchez 9 for his career, Romine -5 for his career.
rSZ (Strike Zone Runs Saved, a measure of pitch framing): Sanchez 5 for his career, Romine 5.
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have just said "too lazy" and left it at that.
Again - how many losses does that translate to? And how many wins does he contribute to?
Ahhh got it. Just let me know what source contains such information and will be glad to dig out the answer for you.
Are you familiar with stats? Sanchez offensive WAR is 8.1 for and his defensive WAR is 1.7
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Since when is it reflected in existing stats?
its not
Since when does a stat mean a person should no longer should think past easy and interpret the second and third derivative in making a sound argument?
All stats are the result of weighted, limited and slanted interpretations of a data series.
If we accepted the stats of an era we would still be using BA as the be all and end all metric determining the value of position players
Always
Since when is it reflected in existing stats?
its not
Since when does a stat mean a person should no longer should think past easy and interpret the second and third derivative in making a sound argument?
All stats are the result of weighted, limited and slanted interpretations of a data series.
If we accepted the stats of an era we would still be using BA as the be all and end all metric determining the value of position players
Put another way, focusing exclusively on errors is misguided.