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superspynyg : 4/25/2019 8:32 am
What a wild win last night. I am sorry I missed it. Down 5-0 going into the 6th. Pull out a 6-5 win. I love LeMeheiu.

Last night had it all great def by Trout. The hidden ball trick. Winning it in the 9th. This team just keeps winning. We lost so many starters and we keep grinding out wins.

14-10. 6 game win streak. 2nd n the East and only 1.5 games back from the Rays.

Kudos to Cashman and Boone for keeping this tram in it.
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This team is showing some serious guts  
mfsd : 4/25/2019 8:37 am : link
I haven't watched much of these west coast games, but based on highlights is seems the defense we're getting from guys like Urshela and LeMahieu is really making a difference
RE: This team is showing some serious guts  
Stu11 : 4/25/2019 8:44 am : link
In comment 14403435 mfsd said:
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I haven't watched much of these west coast games, but based on highlights is seems the defense we're getting from guys like Urshela and LeMahieu is really making a difference

I said it on the game thread last night. I don't know if the #'s could work out roster wise but I'd love to keep Urshela around even when most are healthy. His glove and arm are such a plus. 3B will be up in the air all year with Andujar's shoulder so why not keep him around?
Getting these guys good playing time now  
DC Gmen Fan : 4/25/2019 8:46 am : link
will allow us to rest the big guns when they need to.

Depth is good.
Urshela's..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/25/2019 8:46 am : link
defense is so solid that he has to stay up even if it is to serve as a defensive replacement in the later innings.
RE: Urshela's..  
The_Boss : 4/25/2019 8:49 am : link
In comment 14403469 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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defense is so solid that he has to stay up even if it is to serve as a defensive replacement in the later innings.


Agreed. Not asking you in general, but is Andujar’s return a legit possibility at this time? He’s seemingly passed all the baby steps thrown at him thus far. Maybe another few weeks for him?
Wow...  
M.S. : 4/25/2019 8:54 am : link

...very, very easy to root for a team like this with so many subs playing big time ball.

As an aside, I don't think Gary Sanchez is the long term solution at catcher.

Assuming he is on this team long term, I believe the Yankees are gonna have to create a hybrid role for this guy where he DHs a lot; maybe plays first base occasionally; and then catches every 3rd or 4th game. Maybe.

But I know what a competent MLB catcher looks like, and he ain't it. I just hope he becomes a reliable guy with the bat who keeps the strikeouts down to a "tolerable" level.

Bottom line: If this guy becomes a reliable bat in critical game situations, that's plenty good enough for me. And, if not, then who really knows the long term future for this guy? An erratic, unpredictable bat combined with bad catching skills is not a recipe for a long term MLB contract.


Love the fight  
BIG FRED 1973 : 4/25/2019 8:56 am : link
in this team ..Get the sweep today ..Of course with the awful MLB scheduling this is not a day game when in fact it should be because of a travel day for both teams
I saw..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/25/2019 9:00 am : link
a report where Andujar should be up in early May.
RE: I saw..  
The_Boss : 4/25/2019 9:09 am : link
In comment 14403522 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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a report where Andujar should be up in early May.


Great. Thx..
Urshela only plays 3B, correct?  
robbieballs2003 : 4/25/2019 9:13 am : link
At some point he'll be down. Not sure when though with all the injuries but LeMahieu was signed specifically to give us infield depth and play a good chunk of the time. These injuries have been crazy but LeMahieu has proven he as much an every day player as we have. He gives this team solid defense and something we lack offensively which is putting the ball in play and not striking out all the time. I don't think it is a coincidence we are scoring runs without almost all of our power hitters out.
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arcarsenal : 4/25/2019 9:13 am : link
Andujar is going to be tricky.

Swinging the bat isn't going to be a major issue... or an issue at all.

It's... can he throw across the diamond without making the tear worse or aggravating it?

For right now, we actually could DH him often since Voit is the guy in that spot right now with Stanton out.

Voit could just go back to 1B, Miggy could DH, and then we could just squeeze Ford out.

But... the problem is that the tear isn't going to heal with rest. He's going to need to get it repaired eventually. And when he does have the surgery, it's going to take time to rehab and recover. So, if he has it now, it's season over... but if he tries to play again this year, we're kind of prolonging the inevitable.

I hope he comes back this year. But I also realize that Miggy is a young player and they need to do what's best for the long-term and not focus so much on this year with him.
the Gary Sanchez hot takes continue to be ridiculous.  
wigs in nyc : 4/25/2019 9:24 am : link
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RE: Urshela only plays 3B, correct?  
Carson53 : 4/25/2019 9:24 am : link
In comment 14403581 robbieballs2003 said:
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At some point he'll be down. Not sure when though with all the injuries but LeMahieu was signed specifically to give us infield depth and play a good chunk of the time. These injuries have been crazy but LeMahieu has proven he as much an every day player as we have. He gives this team solid defense and something we lack offensively which is putting the ball in play and not striking out all the time. I don't think it is a coincidence we are scoring runs without almost all of our power hitters out.


No, he can play all over the infield, excluding !B.
With him at 3B, and LemMahieu at 2B, that has helped
solidify the infield defense. When you make contact at the plate, good things can happen.
I am not sure why they haven't had Andujar have surgery,
a torn labrum is not going to repair. Lets say he is down
in Tampa or a rehab assignment elsewhere, what happens
when he dives for balls at 3b? I think they are just delaying the inevitable, which would mean he is out even longer next season.
I am just being pragmatic,
have seen this movie before a few times...
Sure he may able to DH, but long term, that would be a better solution.
RE: the Gary Sanchez hot takes continue to be ridiculous.  
superspynyg : 4/25/2019 9:29 am : link
In comment 14403611 wigs in nyc said:
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Is he even worth signing to a long term deal for big money? I say not right now. He is injured often. His numbers stink. Move on at the end and get a complete pick or if you can trade him do it.

He needs to hit the crap out of the ball for a few years and stay healthy before I throw big money his way.
Also announced last night  
Beer Man : 4/25/2019 9:30 am : link
Red Thunder to the IL. The mild sprain showed some bruising so they sent him for an MRI. Found a mild tear, he will be out about 14-days.

Stanton strain has healed, but he had to receive a cortisone shot for unrelated shoulder discomfort. Consequently, his return is being delayed.

What a year this has been.
RE: RE: the Gary Sanchez hot takes continue to be ridiculous.  
arcarsenal : 4/25/2019 9:32 am : link
In comment 14403628 superspynyg said:
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In comment 14403611 wigs in nyc said:


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Is he even worth signing to a long term deal for big money? I say not right now. He is injured often. His numbers stink. Move on at the end and get a complete pick or if you can trade him do it.

He needs to hit the crap out of the ball for a few years and stay healthy before I throw big money his way.


His numbers stink?

Yeah, a 1.065 OPS is real shitty...

Some of you guys have bizarre takes on Sanchez. I don't get it.
RE: Wow...  
Carson53 : 4/25/2019 9:33 am : link
In comment 14403485 M.S. said:
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...very, very easy to root for a team like this with so many subs playing big time ball.

As an aside, I don't think Gary Sanchez is the long term solution at catcher.

Assuming he is on this team long term, I believe the Yankees are gonna have to create a hybrid role for this guy where he DHs a lot; maybe plays first base occasionally; and then catches every 3rd or 4th game. Maybe.

But I know what a competent MLB catcher looks like, and he ain't it. I just hope he becomes a reliable guy with the bat who keeps the strikeouts down to a "tolerable" level.

Bottom line: If this guy becomes a reliable bat in critical game situations, that's plenty good enough for me. And, if not, then who really knows the long term future for this guy? An erratic, unpredictable bat combined with bad catching skills is not a recipe for a long term MLB contract.

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Keep in mind, they put up with Posada here as a catcher.
The 2nd half of his career, he wasn't very good behind the plate. He had a lot of passed balls.
I think Sanchez is the type of player, that
you have to stay on him about his work habits.
If he doesn't improve and become average at least, they
may have to do something in the future? At least he can
throw when he is right.
If some..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/25/2019 9:35 am : link
of the guys who post on the Yankee threads got their wish, they'd give Sanchez away for a hot pretzel and be perfectly fine having Romine as the everyday C.

And the Yanks would be a much worse team for it, so they'd move onto the next erroneous thing to bitch about. Like Chapman being very unreliable...
A catcher  
PaulN : 4/25/2019 9:39 am : link
Who has legitimate 40 HR power with a rocket for an arm and people want to get rid of him. This is why I use the word idiot here. You have to be a moron to write off Sanchez, he can dominate a game, give him time. Holy shit I can't believe what I read.
for as much as we joke about Chapman  
bigbluehoya : 4/25/2019 9:41 am : link
being an IQ test, there are Sanchez takes on the daily that make me convinced we should be talking about lobotomies.
the hilarious thing is Romine isn't even much of a catcher  
Greg from LI : 4/25/2019 9:41 am : link
For a light-hitting backup, he's very mediocre behind the plate.
El Gary  
Carson53 : 4/25/2019 9:44 am : link
I will say this, IF Realmuto had three years of team control, rather than the two that he presently has....
I would have traded Sanchez for him in a NY minute.
He would have helped to sell seats in that market down
in South Beach, saying helped, cuz they don't draw well.
I am not sure the Fish would have made that deal,
with Sanchez coming off a down year.
That doesn't mean I hate El Gary, it's just business.
RE: Urshela's..  
Del Shofner : 4/25/2019 10:01 am : link
In comment 14403469 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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defense is so solid that he has to stay up even if it is to serve as a defensive replacement in the later innings.


Agree. Of all the bats we've lost, I think we've missed Miggy's the least because Urshela is so plus defensively at 3B, and he's not too bad at the plate. Guy can play.
Someone scolded me  
Kyle in NY : 4/25/2019 10:02 am : link
for mentioning this the other day, but I think questions really have to be asked about the Yankees training staff. How is Frazier considered available to pinch hit one night and then the next he has a tear in ankle and is going on the IL? This has become very Mets-like.

That said, couldn't be happier with how the team is battling and grinding out wins in the meantime.
RE: Someone scolded me  
UConn4523 : 4/25/2019 10:04 am : link
In comment 14403805 Kyle in NY said:
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for mentioning this the other day, but I think questions really have to be asked about the Yankees training staff. How is Frazier considered available to pinch hit one night and then the next he has a tear in ankle and is going on the IL? This has become very Mets-like.

That said, couldn't be happier with how the team is battling and grinding out wins in the meantime.


Boone already answered that question. They said they didn't like the non-progression in the ankle which sparked the MRI. As for the pinch running, who knows. Could have just been PR to say he's available.

I highly, highly doubt that a team doctor/trainer wouldn't be able to diagnose a sprain, which is what would have to happen if we are going to question the medical staff.

I simply think this is just really bad luck.
I'm always leery..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/25/2019 10:06 am : link
about pinning things on training staffs because injuries are mostly a result of a small sample size.

A few years ago, the warriors had been one of the most injured teams in the NFL. They brought in a new S&C guy and a new trainer and they were one of the healthiest. The following year, they went back to being one of the most injured.

The only time there has been a correlation to injury was in relation to the playing surfaces. It was one of the main drivers of going away from carpeting on concrete to the FieldTurf we see today.
Sorry..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/25/2019 10:07 am : link
NBA - obviously
This "IL" stuff is annoying  
Greg from LI : 4/25/2019 10:09 am : link
Makes me think guys are being sent down to Scranton. Changing the name from disabled list to injured list is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. How much of a whiner do you have to be to actually be offended by something so innocuous?
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arcarsenal : 4/25/2019 10:10 am : link
I agree, Kyle - they need to look at what Matt Krause is doing and figure out if the methodology is contributing to these injuries somehow. If someone needs to lose a job over this, that's probably the guy... this just doesn't seem right. It's beyond bad luck.

Hell, Stanton is another one... his bicep fully healed, now he's getting a cortisone shot in his shoulder?

How are guys getting injured while they're rehabbing?

Severino was hurt before he ever even took the mound in the Spring. Literally was scheduled to make his first start and got scratched right before it.

Injuries like Andujar or Frazier... I can understand those. They slide into these bags with no give and get jammed and get hurt. Frazier's sliding technique is bad - he needs to fix that. But that's not the point... those injuries make sense.

Betances, I don't know... I guess he altered his pre-season prep on his own accord because he had a kid, etc. But that shouldn't be an excuse. Hicks' back issue seemed to just crop up out of nowhere, too.

I feel like I brought the Mets training staff to the Bronx with me... it's almost hard to believe. But, the Yanks just keep winning and like I keep saying... if they can just hang in there until a bunch of the reinforcements return, I think this will be beneficial in the end because it'll boost the value of a lot of guys and will add depth by way of the Urshela's, Tauchman's, Ford's etc. getting MLB PT and experience.

I would have the injured guys back yesterday if I had my way. But part of me is enjoying this adversity and the way the Yanks just keep finding ways and won't give up. Some major character/team building stuff here.
RE: RE: Wow...  
M.S. : 4/25/2019 10:11 am : link
In comment 14403657 Carson53 said:
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In comment 14403485 M.S. said:


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...very, very easy to root for a team like this with so many subs playing big time ball.

As an aside, I don't think Gary Sanchez is the long term solution at catcher.

Assuming he is on this team long term, I believe the Yankees are gonna have to create a hybrid role for this guy where he DHs a lot; maybe plays first base occasionally; and then catches every 3rd or 4th game. Maybe.

But I know what a competent MLB catcher looks like, and he ain't it. I just hope he becomes a reliable guy with the bat who keeps the strikeouts down to a "tolerable" level.

Bottom line: If this guy becomes a reliable bat in critical game situations, that's plenty good enough for me. And, if not, then who really knows the long term future for this guy? An erratic, unpredictable bat combined with bad catching skills is not a recipe for a long term MLB contract.



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Keep in mind, they put up with Posada here as a catcher.
The 2nd half of his career, he wasn't very good behind the plate. He had a lot of passed balls.
I think Sanchez is the type of player, that
you have to stay on him about his work habits.
If he doesn't improve and become average at least, they
may have to do something in the future? At least he can
throw when he is right.

Can you compare Sanchez with Posada? Kinda like two totally different temperaments. Posada was one of the unspoken leaders on those great Yankees teams, and if he ever thought someone was lollygagging, taking it easy, etc., he would get in their face. That ain't Sanchez. Very different dudes.

I just don't know what to think of Sanchez... sure I love the tatters when he's on a hot streak. But this dude will just cost us games behind the plate. His cannon arm down to 2nd base doesn't mean jack-shit when he can't catch/field the ball.

IMO, I think there are loads of Yankee fans who have NOT taken a long, hard, cold look at this player. His power is the seduction and so a lot gets glossed over. I still think it's 50-50 whether or not Cashman signs this guy to a long-term contract. And it may be less than 50% chance.
Certainly possible  
Kyle in NY : 4/25/2019 10:11 am : link
that this is just awful luck. Although I think seeing a lot of muscle/soft tissue injuries should spark some questions or at least a bit of introspection about what the heck is going on, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
Hicks has had back injuries before though, hasn't he?  
Greg from LI : 4/25/2019 10:12 am : link
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Sanchez is better behind the plate than Posada was  
Greg from LI : 4/25/2019 10:12 am : link
Plain and simple.
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arcarsenal : 4/25/2019 10:15 am : link
Hicks does have back issues of the "chronic" variety - I don't really blame the Yanks for that flaring back up. Although I think being aware of it, I'd have wanted them to be a little more careful with it... but I realize you can't prevent everything.

Injuries of the Stanton and Judge variety are the hardest ones for me to understand. It's tough to have key sluggers go down just from swinging a bat. They have to swing a bat. It's their job. They can't be pulling and straining muscles that way.

And for Stanton to somehow develop a new shoulder injury while he's on the IL... I just can't understand that.
RE: the hilarious thing is Romine isn't even much of a catcher  
M.S. : 4/25/2019 10:15 am : link
In comment 14403701 Greg from LI said:
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For a light-hitting backup, he's very mediocre behind the plate.

I don't think Romine is anything "special" behind the plate, but it only takes an inning or two watching him receive the ball vs Gary Sanchez to realize that the latter is a minus MLB catcher. That's just the way it is. Love Gary's power (when he's hot), but there's very little else about this young man's game that is worth watching. Of all the young stars on this very fine Yankees team, it's my bet that he will be somewhere else one day.

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Kyle in NY : 4/25/2019 10:16 am : link
A good test will be when guys start coming back, are they able to stay healthy or do issues crop right back up? It's hard to blame trainers for Andujar jamming his shoulder or Hicks having chronic issues. But we can quantify the impact a bit of their rehab and the timetables being given for these injuries if they come back healthy and ready to go

The Stanton thing is strange, I will say that.
What??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/25/2019 10:16 am : link
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IMO, I think there are loads of Yankee fans who have NOT taken a long, hard, cold look at this player.


If anything, it seems like people complaining about Sanchez haven't taken the look.

His power numbers are excellent. And his behind the plate fielding is overblown. I mean - it is even alluded to above that his defense is costing them games. GAMES???

Where's the "hard, cold look" to back that up?
You're wrong  
Greg from LI : 4/25/2019 10:17 am : link
Sanchez calls a better game, frames better, and throws infinitely better. Did you notice how teams were running wild on Romine and Higashioka?
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arcarsenal : 4/25/2019 10:18 am : link
A few passed balls does not a poor defensive catcher make...
RE: Hicks has had back injuries before though, hasn't he?  
Del Shofner : 4/25/2019 10:18 am : link
In comment 14403853 Greg from LI said:
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2017 - oblique
2018 - intercostal (whatever that is)

Not back per se, but core, and core and back have some correlation based on my experience with them.
Urshela is out of options, right?  
wigs in nyc : 4/25/2019 10:22 am : link
So if/when they try to send him down he has to pass through wavers, which isn't likely to work out.
From an injury..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/25/2019 10:22 am : link
standpoint, I completely understand the swing injuries:

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Injuries of the Stanton and Judge variety are the hardest ones for me to understand. It's tough to have key sluggers go down just from swinging a bat. They have to swing a bat. It's their job. They can't be pulling and straining muscles that way.


If there's an issue - it is in technique, which is a coaching issue, not a training one.

Power hitters these days generate so much torque in their swing to deliver the power. It is what sets them apart as players, but also heightens their risk for oblique, back and arm injuries. We aren't talking about guys casually swinging away like they are Mark Belanger. They are taking some serious hacks!
RE: If some..  
Jints in Carolina : 4/25/2019 10:25 am : link
In comment 14403663 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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of the guys who post on the Yankee threads got their wish, they'd give Sanchez away for a hot pretzel and be perfectly fine having Romine as the everyday C.

And the Yanks would be a much worse team for it, so they'd move onto the next erroneous thing to bitch about. Like Chapman being very unreliable...


I do enjoy a good hot pretzel.
Put some..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/25/2019 10:27 am : link
hot queso on the pretzel and you have yourself a Dirty Sanchez....
RE: From an injury..  
arcarsenal : 4/25/2019 10:28 am : link
In comment 14403906 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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standpoint, I completely understand the swing injuries:



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Injuries of the Stanton and Judge variety are the hardest ones for me to understand. It's tough to have key sluggers go down just from swinging a bat. They have to swing a bat. It's their job. They can't be pulling and straining muscles that way.



If there's an issue - it is in technique, which is a coaching issue, not a training one.

Power hitters these days generate so much torque in their swing to deliver the power. It is what sets them apart as players, but also heightens their risk for oblique, back and arm injuries. We aren't talking about guys casually swinging away like they are Mark Belanger. They are taking some serious hacks!


I guess my thinking is that maybe they're not loose enough or not doing the proper stretching/prep and these muscles are grabbing and pulling in some of the colder weather on hard swings.

You're more well-versed in this stuff than I am, so I'll default on that.

I just see this IL list for this team and it seems nearly impossible to happen organically without some sort of contributing issue somewhere internally.... but maybe it really just is terrible, terrible luck.
Anyone burying Sanchez after one bad game  
mfsd : 4/25/2019 10:31 am : link
coming back from 3 weeks off need to get a grip
I think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/25/2019 10:31 am : link
there are some contributing issues - just not necessarily on training or S&C.

As you mentioned above, the ankle injuries are a baseball thing sliding into stationary objects. When OF guys crash into a wall or tarp and get injured, that may be an issue with technique, but it also is just an aspect of the game.

I detailed the swing issues above - and those would apply to Hicks, Stanton and Judge (and likely to Sanchez too). Pitching injuries are a crapshoot.

It does suck because the injuries seem so clustered, but I don't think you can point to anything from a training standpoint that is a glaring cause.
interesting musing at RAB this morning  
Greg from LI : 4/25/2019 10:35 am : link
Torres has looked much smoother and more comfortable at SS this year than he did at second base last year. Might it not be a better idea to keep him there and move Didi to second when he comes back?
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Jints in Carolina : 4/25/2019 10:37 am : link
@Yankees
Following Wednesday’s game, the Yankees optioned RHP Jonathan Loaisiga to Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.
Urshela, Torres and DJM  
Del Shofner : 4/25/2019 10:39 am : link
are not a bad 3/4 of an infield defensively or offensively. Funny to think that it's "second string."

On the other hand, the corner OF spots and 1B, we're sort of playing the "third string" right now.

Makes the wins that much sweeter.

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